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March 26, 2016

Why some people are comparing Donald Trump to Hitler

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 8:20 am
Adolf Hitler gives a Nazi salute in 1927

Adolf Hitler gives a Nazi salute in the city of Nuremberg in 1927

What is the worst possible thing that you can say about a person? The worst possible insult is to compare someone to Hitler.

I am writing today about a news article entitled “Donald Trump, Adolf Hitler,  and what we talk about when we talk about Godwin’s Law”

Donald Trump

Trump raises his hand in what looks like a Nazi salute

The following quote is from the news article:

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There’s something about the Trump 2016 run that makes people cry Hitler at unprecedented levels, even for the Internet age.

In other words, Godwin’s Law is being invoked like never before. Don’t know what Godwin’s Law is? Coined by attorney Mike Godwin in 1990, it states, “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.” In other words, Godwin’s Law means that as long as you exist as a person with an opinion not miraculously agreed upon by every single person in the world, the collective psychic cesspool that is the Internet will eventually call you Hitler.

Godwin’s Law is normally a pretty straightforward thing, in terms of whether it is being applied for (melo)dramatic effect or not. But as Trump’s campaign marches on and his base grows wider, their violence and nationalism grows louder — and Godwin’s Law loses a degree of rhetorical clarity. It’s meant for people wildly grasping at Hitler or the Nazis or the Holocaust as hyperbole, without actual factual relation. What happens when the similarities between the person being compared to Hitler and, well, Hitler are more eerily present than you’d expect?

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Does Trump have any similarity to Hitler?  Does he want to kill Jews? As far as I know, Trump only wants to get rid of Mexicans who are in America illegally and he is against Muslims, who tend to be terrorists.

This quote is also from the news article:

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It may be helpful here to note that some of the similarities between Trump and Hitler that people are quick to point out should bother and disturb us more than others. When Trump asked supporters at a rally to pledge their loyalty by raising their right hand, it was surreal — but it didn’t necessarily mean anything. It might have been an attempt to dog-whistle white supremacists in his base, but it might also have been an act of mind-boggling ignorance. (I actually feel the same way about the Megyn Kelly “blood coming out of here wherever” remarks — not that it in any way lessens the bread-and-butter misogyny of The Donald, but I believe there’s at least a possibility he was just babbling.)

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This photo is included in the news article

This photo is included in the news article

The photo above shows Trump supporters raising their hands in what looks like a Nazi salute.

The following quote is from the last paragraph in the news article:

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The ethics of the whole phenomenon are murky at best. Does Trump, whose personal #brand of racism will *probably* not lead him to exterminate millions in gas chambers, deserve to be indiscriminately called Hitler? No. But is it enormously important that people be educated about the disturbing ways the two leaders created their paths to power? Absolutely. There is a world of difference between contextualizing Trump’s racist policy proposals in terms of documented history and some egg-avatared MRA dude hissing rape threats at “feminazis” on Twitter.

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42 Comments »

  1. Comment by eah — March 29, 2016 @ 7:19 am

    • Uncle Adolph is a lot better looking . Seems like her thinking is along his lines. Do we start calling her Hitllary

      Comment by Tim — March 29, 2016 @ 7:44 am

      • Hillary should be compared to Irma Grese. https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/irma-grese/

        Comment by furtherglory — March 29, 2016 @ 7:56 am

        • Okay. She wins. I take back what I said about hitler being better looking. This woman is better looking than Hillary. I also think this woman would have a better understanding of the word,”classified”, than Hillary. However the number that has been thrown in,is a nice rounded off number .why can’t it be 260,472 or 260,923. The Nam wall in DC has 57,939 names on it. They’ve got an exact number. That’s more realistic. When they start with 6 mill,4 mill, or in this case,260,000,it looks like they just pulled a number outta thin air. I read somewhere they talked about Jews that escaped from a camp. They said “300 to 600”. It couldn’t have been “319 to 645”? They always seem to have numbers,where there’s no odd numbers in there. If they’d say “an estimated 6mill died”( or what ever the number is today),it would be easier to accept their numbers. The number of dead seems to change so much,they outta list it on “The CBOT”. People can speculate on it.

          Comment by Tim — March 29, 2016 @ 8:26 am

      • I liked that, “Hitlery.”
        Kudos, Tim.
        😂

        Comment by Jeff K. — March 29, 2016 @ 11:17 am

    • This comparison is a vicious insult to out beloved Fuhrer!

      Comment by Schlageter — March 29, 2016 @ 1:03 pm

      • Why?
        He was a dick, she’s a bitch.

        I doubt Clinton would advocate genocide but you never know.
        I also doubt Clinton would strip away personal freedoms but hey, power does funny things to people.

        Comment by Jeff K. — March 29, 2016 @ 8:42 pm

  2. http://www.unz.com/article/hating-on-trump/

    Comment by Schlageter — March 27, 2016 @ 4:22 pm

    • For those who don’t follow the link:

      But there is one significant difference between Trump and the “establishment,”…Trump is the first high level politician aspirant within living memory to challenge the notion that the United States must stand by Israel no matter what Israel does…what the neocon subset of Israel’s powerful lobby fears most is something quite different – becoming irrelevant…Dan McAdams of the Ron Paul Institute has described the Trump hating neocons as “…soft skinned and well-perfumed keyboard warriors who eagerly send America’s sons and daughters to be slaughtered in wars that achieve nothing but the ascendance of new ‘bad guys’ used to justify ever more wars. And all of it pays very nicely for them.”

      Comment by eah — March 28, 2016 @ 2:49 am

  3. Recent You Tube, worth a look for Jeff K and the Hasbara mob ( where are you Jeff ??? ). Now it must be stated that Milo is Jewish and gay . He has an interesting take on Trump
    ; also he can get away with saying that Jews control the media ( see 9 mins in )

    Comment by peter — March 26, 2016 @ 4:52 pm

    • Jeff K where are you ??? Can you comment please on Trump ?

      Comment by peter — March 27, 2016 @ 3:15 pm

      • I’m not Jeff ( or whatever his name is). You want something on Trump? He helped save this lady’s hog farm, back in 84,86,somewhere around there. It was her husbands. He put a gun to his head,but the life insurance still didn’t cover what the bank needed. Look the story up. The farm was in Georgia . I think it Tifton. I’m not sure. I know our socialist president ( or any of the candidates that are running),wouldn’t do that. He’d have to lower his self to the level of the common folks . You’re still on your own for your answer from Jeff . I just threw that out there,cause I don’t think Uncle Adolph would’ve done anything like that.

        Comment by Tim — March 27, 2016 @ 3:34 pm

      • What about Trump?
        BTW, I enjoyed the video.
        Milo is very funny….and very smart.
        I found it interesting that he is against gay marriage. One of the funniest things that I ever heard was John Waters saying he was against gay marriage because he thought one of the benefits of being gay is he didn’t have to get married.
        I thought Milo made some very good points about racism and anti-semetism. I thought his description of the “troll” generation were spot on. I liked the moderator as well.
        This is the cool thing about YouTube. It allows people to express themselves and discuss things out of the normal media outlets. I know Rizoli benefits from YouTube.

        Other than that, what is exactly were you looking for?

        Jeff

        Comment by Jeff K. — March 27, 2016 @ 4:01 pm

      • Ah, I get it now.
        You want me to comment on the Hitler/Trump comparison.
        Ok.
        Here’s what I think:
        It’s nonsense.
        Here’s why:
        Trump grew up and currently lives in a democratic country. At his core this will always effect his view point. He prospered in this system and continues to profit from it. If he becomes president he will continue to work within the constraints of the constitution. He may want to shake things up but in the end he will not blow things completely apart because that is not in the cards for him.

        Hitler, on the other hand, grew up in a completely different system, a sort of benign authoritarian system led by Emperor Joseph. Even though Hitler was Austrian he always identified himself as German and believed in a strong authoritarian government. He faced trauma with the loss of WW I which became his defining moment. For the rest of his life Hitler desired to tear apart the Versailles Treaty and the government, the Weimar Republic, that signed it.

        Trump never faced trauma, not to the degree Hitler did. Trump is a priveleged member of society, a trust fund baby who made his own fortune. Trump dated Playboy Bunnies while others of his generation were fighting and dying in Vietnam.
        Hitler, on the other hand, was a socially awkward loner that was uncomfortable around women. Hitler practically lived on the streets in Vienna at one point, saved by living in poor houses. Frankly I think Hitler would despise someone like Trump.

        And Peter? Can it with the ADL crap. It’s ridiculous.

        Jeff

        Comment by Jeff K. — March 27, 2016 @ 4:26 pm

        • Disappointing Jeff I hoped you might have also commented on Milo ‘s view about the Jewish control of the media and banking.
          Can you also tell me why you use various pseudonyms and why you change them .
          I am also intrigued by your obsession to always have the last word even though your last points are often trivial and worthless .
          Is it in the Hasbara guidebook ?

          Comment by peter — March 27, 2016 @ 4:58 pm

          • “Disappointing Jeff I hoped you might have also commented on Milo ‘s view about the Jewish control of the media and banking.”

            I thought you wanted me to talk about Trump. Make up your mind.

            “Can you also tell me why you use various pseudonyms and why you change them .”

            Because I thought it was fun. It started to bore me so I decided to use my real name.

            “I am also intrigued by your obsession to always have the last word even though your last points are often trivial and worthless .”

            You said you wanted me to comment on what you posted.
            This is getting confusing, did you or did you not want me to comment?
            When you direct something at me specifically I assume you wish me to comment. Next time if you don’t want me to comment after mentioning me specifically say it.
            You didn’t say anything about what I wrote about Hitler/Trump. Was that not what you wanted?

            “Is it in the Hasbara guidebook ?”

            Are we back to that again? Seriously, it’s dull and says far more about you than me.

            Comment by Jeff K. — March 27, 2016 @ 5:08 pm

            • There’s lyen Ted or as now corrected for Mr Trump lyin’Ted, and there is Straw man Jeff or hasbara Jeff .

              Comment by peter — March 28, 2016 @ 2:33 am

              • “There’s lyen Ted or as now corrected for Mr Trump lyin’Ted, and there is Straw man Jeff or hasbara Jeff .”

                See, now I’m disappointed.
                I thought you wanted to discuss Hitler/Trump. You did ask for my opinion.
                Instead you simply wanted to show how delusional you are.
                What a shame.

                Comment by Jeff K. — March 28, 2016 @ 5:24 am

              • Ding, ding, ding.

                Hello?

                Peter, any thoughts on what I wrote about Hitler/Trump?
                You did ask me to comment.

                Comment by Jeff K. — March 28, 2016 @ 10:37 am

        • Jeff wrote: “Frankly I think Hitler would despise someone like Trump.”

          I concur. I despise Trump. And I think Hitler would have despised that mogul of Kapital too. Perhaps he would also have felt pity for the dead fox adorning the head of that plutocratic clown.😉

          Comment by hermie — March 27, 2016 @ 6:07 pm

          • You would think that someone that rich could afford a better hairpiece.

            Comment by Jeff K. — March 27, 2016 @ 6:10 pm

            • Donald Trump does not have a “hairpiece.” The hair on the back of his head is real; it is a very long comb-over.

              Comment by furtherglory — March 28, 2016 @ 7:53 am

              • I remember way back when (70’s) I be at a club. There was always these middle age men in there with their leisure suits on. They were losing their hair and they’d try to comb it in such a way to cover the bald spot. I thought that was what trump did. Then I got to thinking,he could buy the “hair club for men” if he wanted. I like him. The republicans don’t like him because hes someone a bit to popular and they probably couldn’t control him. There’s not a single president we’ve ever had that’s really all that great. Some were better than others. People want to jump up and down for FDR. He didn’t get is outta the depression,the people did. Ditto for WW2. Communism didn’t end on Reagans watch. Places like NK and Cuba are still up and running. Once again the wall fell in Berlin because the people had enough of that shit. Like Merle Haggard sang one time.” When a president goes through the White House and does what he says he’ll do,we’ll all be drinking that free bubble up and eatin that rainbow stew”.

                Comment by Tim — March 28, 2016 @ 11:28 am

              • Furtherglory wrote: “The hair on the back of his head is real; it is a very long comb-over.”

                So you would think that someone that rich could afford a better hairdresser…

                Comment by hermie — March 28, 2016 @ 7:44 pm

  4. Hitler/Goebbels 2016!

    Comment by Schlageter — March 26, 2016 @ 4:28 pm

  5. While Hitler clearly expressed his antisemitism Trump is looking for Jewish support at elections. Trump, like many others, wants to fight ISIS until the last Israelian is fallen on the battlefield.

    Comment by Wuolf Murmelsteine — March 26, 2016 @ 2:24 pm

  6. I can probably find pictures of Jews “waving to the folks” like that. It looks just like what it is. He’s waving to the crowd. This is how shit starts. Somebody says he’s giving a nazi salute and all the sheep out there fall in line . I think I’ll go find a picture of Ted Cruz striking “a pose” like Panchio Villa would do. Then we’ll say Ted Cruz is like Pancho Villa. Maybe we can also find a picture of Cruz in a stance like Santa Anna. We can then say Teds pissed because General Houston kicked Santa Anna’s ass and took Texas and Ted wants to give it back to Mexico . This is ridiculous. A person can’t even wave,without being put under a microscope.

    Comment by Tim — March 26, 2016 @ 10:35 am

    • I interpret the complaints about Trump’s arm waving to be complaints about his lack of knowledge about history. Trump doesn’t realize that Hitler is the worst person who has ever lived, in the entire history of the world, which shows Trump’s lack of knowledge, a serious condition that makes him unqualified to be President.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 26, 2016 @ 11:00 am

      • I assume you are being ironic and very subtle. Hitler was far from what you claim. Trump scares some people because either they hate what he says or have never heard rhetoric like it. In fact he could be the breath of fresh air the US and of course the world needs.

        What’s more of the other candidates I would hate any of them becoming POTUS. Hillary is in the hands of the jews, Cruz is a scheming liar and Sanders is nice but incapable…

        One of my neighbours here in France is a raging commie and he just dismisses Trump as a racist bigot. I wonder what is racist or bigoted about wanting to protect ones own country from mass illegal immigration and the lies of the israelis etc trying to drag the US into more crazy conflicts?

        Comment by Mr B — March 26, 2016 @ 11:18 am

        • You wrote: “I assume you are being ironic and very subtle. Hitler was far from what you claim.”

          I am not sure what you think I claim about Hitler. The blog post that is the most indicative of “what I claim” is probably this one:
          https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/12/01/did-hitler-just-want-to-expel-the-jews-from-europe-or-did-he-want-to-kill-them-all/

          Comment by furtherglory — March 26, 2016 @ 11:38 am

        • Our current president is pretty close to being socialist. People are afraid of what they don’t understand . The repubs are pissed because it’s someone that’s not mainstream repub. Our current CIC typical socialist. He gave the go ahead for an American tractor company to set up shop in Cuba . I would’ve asked,”what can we do to keep you here?” Instead he lets it go to a socialist nation. What about Americans that need those jobs? He hasn’t been no miracle worker. So our current CIC is democrat socialist. Fits in line with the dem party. Same with the repubs. They want someone in the WH they can control. Can’t do that with trump. So they’re afraid of him. Do matter which side is elected,we’re still gonna get screwed

          Comment by Tim — March 26, 2016 @ 2:53 pm

      • I never said he was a genius on history. For a quick grin I put in “pictures Obama waving” in the search engine. Sure enough. I got one. Looked like Obama was giving a nazi salute. I looked at pics of uncle Adolph and his pals giving the salute. I compared it with trump. Trumps posture is not rigid enough. He’s also got a grin on his face. The pics of the nazis I saw,they had a plain look on their face . Their bodies were also quite rigid. This kinda reminds me of a black Olympian . It was back in the 70’s. He had his arm raised and his fist clenched. He was accused of number one,it being a communist gesture. The other accusation made against him,it was a salute the Black Panthers used. To be honest,I don’t remember what ever came of it. The way I look at all this,people are gonna see what they wanna see regardless of what it actually may be. It’s kinda like when cops interview witnesses at a crime scene. No two witnesses are gonna say the same thing. I know some cops and that’s what they’ve told me. If Barry did that back in ’08,nobody would’ve said the first thing about it. Then again he got elected out of ,”white guilt”. It’s all a high school popularity contest,that’s all

        Comment by Tim — March 26, 2016 @ 2:44 pm

  7. “Why some people are comparing Donald Trump to Hitler”

    Some politicians and media compare Trump to Hitler because they know most people’s intellectual background is so poor nowadays that Reductio ad hitlerum fallacies are almost the only thing most people are able to understand. They could also compare Trump to a Marvel supervilain, but the voting sheeple could hardly go beyond such reference.

    Comment by hermie — March 26, 2016 @ 9:38 am


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