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April 16, 2016

people were beheaded in the Holocaust because they were gay

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 12:38 pm

I will bet that none of the readers of my blog know that gay men were beheaded during the Holocaust. I didn’t know it either — until I read it in a news article here.

The following quote is from the website, cited above:

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People were killed in gas chambers, they were beheaded just because of their religion, because they were a gypsy, a political dissident or they were gay,” said WVU Hillel Director Richard Guttman. “They were just killed. Half of the people killed were Jews, but the other half were regular people, so we try to remember by reading names.”

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Did you get that? Half of the people who were killed in the Holocaust were “regular people.”  Some of the victims of the Holocaust were “regular people” — as opposed to what? Exceptional people? This article seems to be saying that half of the people killed in the Holocaust were goyim, who were not even human.

Were gay people deliberately killed in the Holocaust? Not that I know of.

The German law, which made homosexuality a crime, had been on the books since 1871 when the German states were united into a country by the King of Prussia, following the victory over France in the Franco-Prussian war.

After the Nazis came to power, a new law was made, which said that men who had been arrested twice, for any crime, would be sent to a concentration camp, after they had completed their second prison sentence. They would be held, in a concentration camp, for at least six months in order to be rehabilitated.

This was the law under which homosexuals and Gypsies would up at Dachau, and later, at other camps. 

The law that was broken by the Gypsies was the new law which said that every man in Germany should have a permanent residence and a visible means of support. The Gypsies traveled around in wagons; they did not have permanent homes.

The German law, known as Paragraph 175, made it a crime to PUBLICLY engage in homosexual acts.  It was also a crime for male prostitutes to solicit men for sex.  Some of the men, who were sent to a concentration camp for soliciting men for sex, were later released after it was determined that they were not homosexual themselves.

The following quote is also from the news article:

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What makes the Holocaust unique, though, is the fact the Nazi Party kept diligent notes on everyone they killed, and while morbid, it inadvertently made it possible for the victims to be honored in a way other genocide victims can’t.

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It is my understanding that the “Nazi Party” did not keep diligent notes on anyone that they killed.  I don’t think that the “Nazi Party” admitted to killing anyone in the camps. People died in the camps, but the deaths were due to disease, particularly typhus.

As the closest concentration camp to Berlin, Sachsenhausen had more homosexual prisoners than any of the other camps. A total of approximately 10,000 homosexuals were sent to all the Nazi concentration camps combined during the 12 years of the Third Reich.

In an era when homosexuals were still in the closet in all the countries of the world, Berlin was a mecca for gays. The movie Cabaret depicts the gay scene in Berlin before the Nazis came to power. It was based on a book entitled “Goodbye to Berlin” by Christopher Isherwood, who lived an openly gay lifestyle in the capital city. Only male homosexuals who broke the German law by flaunting their lifestyle in public were arrested. After their second arrest and prison term, they were sent to the concentration camps; no lesbians were ever sent to the camps, solely for being lesbians.

Some of the young men, who were sent to Sachsenhausen after they had been imprisoned for public homosexual activity, were actually Strichjunge, or male prostitutes, from Berlin.

According to the memoirs of Rudolf Höss, the Commandant of Auschwitz:

The strict camp life and the hard work quickly reeducated this type [homosexual men]. Most of them worked very hard and took great care not to get into trouble so that they could be released as soon as possible. They also avoided associating with those afflicted with this depravity and wanted to make it known that they had nothing to do with homosexuals. In this way countless rehabilitated young men could be released without having a relapse.

83 Comments »

  1. its the first time i have read these comments my friend who was a great bloke was in a camp and suffered due to this for the rest of his life he was not jewish.He said that this would happen again because the world is full of sick racists , bigots who would not learn,reading these comments confirms that he was right many of these individuals should be prosecuted for there disgraceful comments however freedom of speech for me is sacred i will not be reading anymore thats my freedom of choice

    Comment by Sheila Sutton — April 19, 2016 @ 6:37 am

    • Clearly your not up to speed. It’s already happened. Pol Pot. He led the Khmer Rouge. He didn’t like the Montagnards. He started his own little program of destruction of those people. Ever heard of Mayans? I got a man who works for me. He’s 100% Mayan. The asshole running the show on Guatemala started rounding up Mayans. I’m sure you can figure what happened after that. This site ain’t abut racism . The people here question the holo. Just because the people here don’t buy into the holo,don’t make them racist. They’re of independent thought . They’re using their God given right of free thinking. The countries that have holo laws,would make Joe Stalin. Why ? Those countries clearly are telling people what to think .

      Comment by Tim — April 19, 2016 @ 6:54 am

      • If Sheila is a Jew that would explain it…..very intolerant people when it comes to examining the HoloHoax.
        They have all the answers and case closed. If she is a Goyim she is being led by the nose by the Zionists.
        The only free speech she for is the one of taking ours away…..she already made her case for that.

        Jim Rizoli
        CCFIILE.COM
        VHO.ORG
        IHR.ORG

        Comment by jrizoli — April 19, 2016 @ 7:40 am

        • She used the word,”bloke”. I’m not saying there’s people in our country that don’t use the word. It’s possible,but the person saying the word,is usually British . That’s who I’ve always heard use the word. Does England have holo laws? If they do,it would explain why she can’t think freely. She was using the word Bloke,so I’m gonna deduce,she ain’t from our beloved USA. Maybe if we can contact the ghost of James Brown. He can sing her that song”living in America “(I think that the title of the song. It was in that Rocky movie,where ol Dolph Lungren played the Ruskie boxer that killed Apollo Creed). Tell her the song reminds us that America lets us speak freely

          Comment by Tim — April 19, 2016 @ 7:58 am

          • No – Britain doesn’t have Holo-Laws at the present time. They are trying to introduce them, but it would be quite difficult here, because Britain fought Nazi Germany and helped liberate the camps – all in the name of “civilisation” and “freedom of speech”. No one in Britain was actually caught up in the holocaust ( apart from a small number of foreign-born Jews in the German-occupied Channel Islands who were deported to the camps ). And Britain likes to think of itself ( and to a large extent its true) as a haven for Jews and other people fleeing from Nazi oppression in mainland Europe.

            The Holocaust proponents will have to work much harder in Britain, to convince the public and its legislators to pass these “Hate Laws”.

            Comment by Talbot — April 19, 2016 @ 9:13 am

            • Okay. Britain labels itself a safe place for Jews . It sounds like they welcome them. This is a complete 180 from the days of WW2 . Weren’t the Brits a country that didn’t want Jews there,when they were trying to leave Germany ? Are the Brits trying to atone for not taking Jews back then? Like the old adage goes,”if you’re not part of the solution,you’re part of the problem”. All the countries that didn’t want to take any Jew refugees from Germany, damn sure added to the problem. They’re almost as guilty as the nazi party

              Comment by Tim — April 19, 2016 @ 9:42 am

              • Here is an incredible site for those that want to learn the truth…
                https://endzog.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/german-television-exposes-holohoax-lies-historic-broadcast-shocks-germany/

                Jim Rizoli
                CCFIILE.COM
                VHO.ORG
                IHR.ORG

                Comment by jrizoli — April 19, 2016 @ 9:48 am

              • You are quite right, Tim, this is how the Brits like to view themselves today – as the heroes of WW2. But during the 1930’s, Britain didn’t want any Jews coming from Europe – and they certainly didn’t want them going to British-mandated Palestine either. Britain did agree, however, to accept 5,000 Jewish child refugees in 1938 ( called the Kinder-transports). But they were more-or-less shamed into doing this, and used the event for propaganda purposes. Britain was very reluctant to allow Jewish adults into the country at all, and when war broke out, all German and Austrian-born Jews were actually interned in camps! ( They weren’t there for the entire duration of the war, but just over the crisis period of 1939/1940.)

                Comment by Talbot — April 19, 2016 @ 10:03 am

    • Shelia… you use freedom of speech like it’s there for us without interuption there’s no freedom of speech for revisionist we can’t even debate this topic this is one of the only places where you can debate on the topic. Obviously people like you would like to put People Like Us in jail because we think differently we reason differently we have a different view point of a topic that happened 75 years ago based on facts not in unrealities. Too bad you’re leaving the list lots of good information here but again that’s your choice. We all can learn from each other obviously you have your mind made up you have all the answers you don’t need to learn more.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — April 19, 2016 @ 7:04 am

    • Sorry to see you go, Sheila — we hardly knew ya.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 19, 2016 @ 8:17 am

      • FG. You’re to nice to people. She comes on here telling us how we should think. Due to the fact that we question parts of the holo,were labeled racist. The only thing I got to say to her,”don’t let the door hit your ass on your way out”. I know two wrongs don’t make a right,but why respect her when she rolls up in here and starts hurling insults at everyone.

        Comment by Tim — April 19, 2016 @ 8:24 am

  2. If the LGBT lobby was/is able to fictionally mass murder some gays for the sake of the LGBT agenda, what makes people believe that the Zionist lobby couldn’t/can’t do the very same thing for the sake of the Zionist agenda and of Israel in general?

    And Simon Wiesenthal’s groundless figure of 5 million Gentiles perishing in the ‘Holocaust’ was just a lie intended to make non-Jews care about Israel’s dear founding myth, as conceded by some exterminationists years ago.

    Comment by hermie — April 17, 2016 @ 8:44 pm

    • 5 mill? Where did this pop up? So the white folks had it as bad as the Jew? You said,5 mill. Are these names in with the 12 mill names that the Jews at the Jew club read through in the 24 hour time period? I’m lost here. Yesterday I find out gays were sent to the guillotine. Today I find out 5 mill white folks was bumped off. Hey since it was 5 mill white folks that were taken out,can we build a white boy holo museum? I know.,we’ve come up a million short when juxtaposed with the Jew boys,but I think we should still get our own museum. What’s simple Simon gonna say next? The nazis went after the family pet? Just when I think I’ve got a fair idea of what was going on,somebody comes along and throws a monkey wrench into the picture.

      Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 5:47 am

      • You wrote: “Hey since it was 5 mill white folks that were taken out,can we build a white boy holo museum?”
        America’s “holo museum” is the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC. The non-Jewish “white folks” are included in the USHMM museum.

        The USHMM museum was built for the “white folks” to worship the Jews. When I visited the Museum twice, on two separate days, there was no one there, that I could identify as Jewish. Jews don’t go to this Museum. All the attendants, who work there, were African-American, when I was there.

        https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/20-million-people-killed-by-the-nazis-according-to-the-ushmm/

        Comment by furtherglory — April 18, 2016 @ 6:54 am

        • Do people have to pay an entrance fee to worship the Jews at this temple of the holo-martyrs in Washington DC – or is it free for Gentiles ?

          Comment by Talbot — April 18, 2016 @ 7:57 am

          • It’s the only DC area government museum that one must pay an entry fee for. Go figure

            Comment by Schlageter — April 18, 2016 @ 8:06 am

            • You wrote: “Do people have to pay an entrance fee to worship the Jews at this temple of the holo-martyrs in Washington DC – or is it free for Gentiles ?”

              Yes, there is an entrance fee, which you can pay before the doors open.There was a long line to get into the USHMM when I was there. I paid extra to go to the head of the line because I am too old to stand for a long time. I was ushered in ahead of the other people in a very long line. Actually, the attendants there (who were all African Americans) were very nice to me.

              Comment by furtherglory — April 18, 2016 @ 8:16 am

            • When you say “government museum”,do you mean that the government footed the bill for construction of that Jew museum

              Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 10:08 am

            • It is not a “government museum”, there is no “entrance fee”, and it is the probably the only museum in DC that is free – others are actually quite pricey.

              Comment by blake121666 — April 18, 2016 @ 11:41 pm

          • U. S. Holocaust Memorial Museum — FY 2015 Federal Budget Request — currently the USHMM annually gets over $50m of taxpayer money:

            The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) FY 2015 budget request is $52,385,000, which is the same level of funding as FY 2014 Enacted.

            I guess there just aren’t enough rich Jews to help maintain the USHMM — World’s 165 Jewish billionaires worth combined $812 billion

            Comment by eah — April 18, 2016 @ 8:24 am

            • I got a friend who is the K9 handler at our Sheriffs Department. Last week he made a seizure of meth. Street value,$400,000. Couple weeks prior to that he made back to back seizures of coke . Combined street value was a little over 1.2 mill. He’s constantly busting coyotes for smuggling wets across the border. My point here is this. They get over 50 mill for their budget at the Jew museum. We’ve got drugs and wets coming into this country at an outrageous rate. Wouldn’t that money be better spent to combat the flow of drugs and wets into this country? How is that money the Jew museum receives,helping to stop that flow into our country? Hey if the Feds are gonna fork over money to the Jew museum,then they should help support the black cowboy museum up in Arlington (Texas ). Since that’s a “black museum”,maybe they can get some Jews to work there.

              Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 10:31 am

              • Tim do you really think the police departments are not benefiting from the illegal immigrants and the drugs coming into this country they get a percentage of all drug seizures that come into this country so it’s a boon to them.
                Illegal immigration and all the bad that it has done to our country is a benefit to a lot of people that work in law enforcement and the politicians who get the money filtered down to them by the voters. This problem is never ever going to be solved.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — April 18, 2016 @ 10:42 am

                • I know that. Randy made a seizure of $540,000 . It was a husband and wife bringing it into the country. They seized it,because it was to be laundered here. That haul is to be split with the DEA. They made another seizure of cash for around the same amount. That’s all theirs. Randy’s K9 back in 2011 (Knight) fell in the line of duty at the hands of a felon. An illegal. Knights replacement was Lucifer ( okay,his real name is Lobos. I call him Lucifer,because he’s just flat out mean). Lucifer was $50,000. That included the 2 weeks that they gave Randy to train with the K9,so Lucifer would know who his handler is. Back in 2014 u attended a memorial service for a friend that worked out of the USBP office in Carizzo Springs here in Texas . He fell in the line of duty too. Yeah the Border Patrol is a federal agency,but they still don’t get the money they need. At the end of the day you’ll see the USBP loading up their buses with wets. Dragging their asses back across the border,just so they can turn around and try to sneak back in a couple weeks down the road. The benifit that law enforcement gets from the seizures,is not consistent. They need the extra funding for their budget. F–k the holo museum! How are they safeguarding our country against drugs and the constant flow of wets? I’ve got a fellow rancher I know who has his operation out in the Valley (rio grande ). Every time I talk to him,he’s raising hell about having to repair fence line. There are some coyotes that drag the wets across the border on foot. Some of them cut through his property. The cut his fence to gain access to a short cut. He basically patrols his own property. I was talking to Agent Robledo’s field supervisor at the USBP. He told me,off the record it’s an uphill battle. Look at the Texas map. From Brownsville to El Paso . That’s a helluva stretch. USBP don’t have the man power to totally secure that area. The money is not there. Yet we can take this money and carry the Jew museum. I’d love to see their financial statement

                  Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 11:42 am

          • I don’t know what furtherglory paid; but there is no entrance fee and everything in the museum is free:
            https://www.ushmm.org/information/plan-a-visit

            Comment by blake121666 — April 18, 2016 @ 11:37 pm

            • It should be free we have already paid millions of dollars tens of millions of dollars for the museum to be there in the first place.
              A friend of mine that visited the museum this summer noticed a holocaust Survivor who had a donation box set up when he was sitting as he was an expert giving information.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — April 19, 2016 @ 6:00 am

              • Oh no, not someone asking for donations!!!!!!!!

                Well, thank God denier websites don’t ask for donations.
                Oh, wait, yes they do.

                Comment by Jeff K. — April 19, 2016 @ 6:21 am

        • When I lived back in south Florida,I found out just how racist the Jews really are. They must be loving it. Having the blacks work for them. They can really be condescending now

          Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 10:05 am

          • Let’s not forget the Jews ran the slave trade and 40% of Jews owned slaves even way more than the whites.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — April 18, 2016 @ 10:08 am

            • I heard something about that. I know the first slaves that landed in North America were a trade between the slave ship and the ships chandler. It seems the Dutch slavers didn’t have money and needed supplies. Ships Chandler struck a deal for the slaves. However us white boys took the heat for that. Makes me wonder if the Hebs had their hand in the civil war. The way the Carpet Baggers took advantage of the south during reconstruction,it makes me wonder how many Baggers were Jews .

              Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 11:50 am

              • You wrote: “The way the Carpet Baggers took advantage of the south during reconstruction,it makes me wonder how many Baggers were Jews”

                The “carpet baggers” were all Jewish men. They are known by that name to avoid saying that they were Jewish. Only old people, like me, know this because we learned history before “political correctness” was the law of the land in America.

                Comment by furtherglory — April 18, 2016 @ 12:55 pm

                • The ironic part about that,a lot of them traveled with blacks. Jews were using the black man back then. None of that surprises me. Jews saw the perfect scenario from which they could exploit. That’s why I say ,damn giving their museum tax payer dollars. There’s your biggest reason we hate Yankees in the south. We didn’t forget how they took advantage of a bad situation

                  Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 1:05 pm

                • Speaking of ,PC being law of the land. This always gets swept under the carpet. Slavers used the blacks in Africa to help with securing slaves. Great example. Two slaves that were of nobility in Africa were caught and sold. Two unsuccessful attempts to escape. Third times a charm. When they made it back to Africa,what do you think they did? Helped the slavers. Sounds like something a Jew would welcome in the slave trade.

                  Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 1:11 pm

        • Many of these holocaust memorial museums seem to have a hall which is dedicated to black and white photos of individuals , families, or groups of people that date from the 1930’s and 1940’s. The general public is led to believe that these are images of Jewish victims who perished in the holocaust. But the truth is – we don’t really know where these photos came from, and whether or not the folk who appear in the images actually died in WW2.

          The reason I say this, is because most families still have black and white photos that date back to those years. We, for instance, keep them pugged away in a drawer in the spare room and bring them out once in a blue moon to study. Some of the people who appear in the photos can’t be identified today, while others are family members who we’ve lost contact with long ago. One or two lost their lives in WW2, while others emigrated to Canada and Australia, and some moved to other parts of the country for employment after the war.

          But we don’t say to one another – “Oh there’s Aunt Miriam and her family – they were all gassed at Auschwitz; and that’s Uncle Shlomo who perished on a death march. Here’s great granddad – he was thrown into a cement-mixer at Dachau and his remains were used for road plaster. The group in that photo are our Russian relatives, and they were all machine-gunned into a mass-grave at Babi-Yar. That one with your cousin’s family is particularly poignant because it shows them just before they embarked on a cattle truck to the extermination camp at Treblinka”.

          But in the crazed world of holocaustianity, Jewish families are probably encouraged to think like this, and I’ve no doubt the rabbis in the synagogues and temples instruct their congregations to dig out all their black and white photos dating from that period and bring them in, regardless of who died or not. These photos are then displayed in the local holocaust memorial museum for the Gentiles to come and visit, in order to shed tears of remorse and guilt in front of images of people who probably didn’t even die during WW2 – but lived happily ever after, collecting a life-long holocaust compensation pension.

          Comment by Talbot — April 19, 2016 @ 5:45 am

      • Tim wrote: “5 mill? Where did this pop up? ”

        Famous ‘Nazi hunter’ Simon Wiesenthal.

        http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.be/2011/07/deborah-lipstadt-holocaust-is.html?zx=59d71505c2231ffd

        Tim wrote: “Are these names in with the 12 mill names that the Jews at the Jew club read through in the 24 hour time period?”

        Yes, they are (even if they are no names to support that claim).

        Tim wrote: “Today I find out 5 mill white folks was bumped off. Hey since it was 5 mill white folks that were taken out,can we build a white boy holo museum? I know.,we’ve come up a million short when juxtaposed with the Jew boys,but I think we should still get our own museum.”

        Wiesenthal’s claim has been corrected by now. Today, we have parity. It’s 6 million Jews and 6 million non-Jews.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/holocaust/comments/2d0qd3/deborah_lipstadt_the_often_heard_5_million_non/

        Tim wrote: “What’s simple Simon gonna say next? The nazis went after the family pet? ”

        Aready claimed in 1940.

        http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.be/2011/12/final-solution-of-walkies-problem.html

        And also an alleged Hitler’s extermination order against the Bouvier des Flandres (Belgian dog race).

        https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t945678/

        Tim wrote: “What’s simple Simon gonna say next? ”

        Maybe that the Germans are helping Saddam with his anti-Jewish gas chambers. No!! That would be too crazy…

        Comment by hermie — April 18, 2016 @ 8:39 am

        • The Jews never heard the old adage,”fool some of the people some of the time,but not all the people all the time”. I’ve met people that support the holo a 100%. They hate Uncle Adolph to no end. Those same people will admit Hitler was an animal lover. Even if he did hate animals,are they expecting us to believe he’d worry about gassing dogs,when he supposedly had such a hard on for getting rid of the Jews .

          Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 10:41 am

          • TIm wrote: “The Jews never heard the old adage,”fool some of the people some of the time,but not all the people all the time”.”

            Seeing the behavior of most Jews, one could believe that the Hebrew translation of this adage is something like “It’s fun to fool all the Gentiles all the time.”

            Tim wrote: “Even if he did hate animals,are they expecting us to believe he’d worry about gassing dogs,when he supposedly had such a hard on for getting rid of the Jews .”

            I don’t know if they are expecting that. But their motto seems to be: “Lie often and lie big; there will always remain something good of your lies.”

            Comment by hermie — April 18, 2016 @ 6:50 pm

            • I basically they’re convinced of their own superiority (through their own delusion). Hey,maybe the real reason their pissed at hitler,is because he said something about the master race. They act like they’re 10 feet tall and bullet proof. Hey. They said they’re Gods chosen. They don’t have to accept Christ as the savior. As long as your Gods chosen,you clearly don’t have to accept him. They think the ol man upstairs gave them a “get outta jail free” card. Sorry,but the rest of us poor slobs ain’t that lucky. Seriously though,why is it people are so quick to fear the Jew ? Fearing them is the best way I can put it. Government funded holo museums. Holo laws in some countries. Does their “take pity on me,I’m the poor abused Jew ” line carry that much weight . Jesus is referred to as the “Shepard “. They need to call the Jews that.because they damn sure got a bunch of sheep following them .

              Comment by Tim — April 18, 2016 @ 7:15 pm

              • Tim wrote: “I basically they’re convinced of their own superiority (through their own delusion). ”

                They obviously are.

                Tim wrote: “Hey,maybe the real reason their pissed at hitler,is because he said something about the master race.”

                They’re pissed at Hitler because the Zionists needed/need a supervilain to prove their case that assimilation was a failure (Zionist struggle against Assimilationism) and that European Jews could no longer live in Europe and so needed to move to Palestine as a matter of life or death (Zionist struggle against a British administration not compliant enough). Since Zionism now dominates Jewish life, Zionist myths – mainly Supervilain Hitler’s alleged Holocaust – are the foundations of the beliefs of most Jews.

                And everybody thought that the White race was the master race in those days. Moreover the German word “Herrenvolk” hasn’t exactly the same meaning as the English term”Master Race”. It’s less pejorative in German than it is in English. “Master Race” is too narrow to be a correct general translation for “Herrenvolk”. Herrenvolk implies a people who deserve respect. It does not imply a slave master dragging people around on a dog leash. The term “Master Race” is a trick, a con, added by Jews to make ordinary concepts and ideas seem horrifying. Hitler didn’t fight against the Jews because he regarded the Germans as superior people (supermen) and the Jews as inferior people (subhumans) as often alleged. Hitler fought against the Jews because they were a domineering alien race owning his country’s levers of power. Not even in his own interests to claim that subhumans had achieved such a thing. At Nuremberg, Hans Fritzsche, head of Goebbels’ press and radio propaganda, stated: ‘I never set up or voiced the theory of the “master race.” I even avoided this term. I expressly prohibited this term being used by the German press and the German radio when I was in charge of one or the other. I believe that the term “master race” played a greater role in the anti-National Socialist propaganda than in Germany proper. I do not know who invented this term.’

                Similar trick during WW1:


                The Hobart Mercury (Australia), December 4, 1915.

                Tim wrote: “Seriously though,why is it people are so quick to fear the Jew ? Fearing them is the best way I can put it. Government funded holo museums. Holo laws in some countries. Does their “take pity on me,I’m the poor abused Jew ” line carry that much weight .”

                I don’t think that state-sponsored holo-museums, holo-laws, etc. comes from fear. I’d rather such things come from ownership. Jewry owns Western countries’ politics, economics and mass media. No Gentile politician can go very far without running for Jewry. When a Gentile politician becomes prominent today, one can be sure he’s owned by Jewry. Otherwise he wouldn’t and couldn’t be where he is.

                Comment by hermie — April 18, 2016 @ 8:27 pm

  3. Jeff….the second video (Daily Kenn.com) the German man talks about the executions of innocent children….
    I guess this is acceptable to you…..As long as the Germans civilians were killed everything was alright.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — April 17, 2016 @ 10:06 am

    • Don’t be silly, Jim.
      It’s sad that innocents died during the war. This includes Germans and especially German children. That blame falls to Hitler for pushing his country to war.

      As far as beheading, the German Empire, the Weimar Republic and Nazi Germany utilized the guillotine to execute the condemned:
      https://books.google.com/books?id=-CwiaTLcYIMC&pg=PT54&lpg=PT54&dq=method+of+execution+for+the+weimar+republic&source=bl&ots=fI-UArJd0M&sig=B4cxj2WVhMDzXke8_1jHwDd_wvQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVzs6grZbMAhUFKiYKHe6kA64Q6AEIJDAD#v=onepage&q=method%20of%20execution%20for%20the%20weimar%20republic&f=false

      “According to the memoirs of Rudolf Höss, the Commandant of Auschwitz:

      The strict camp life and the hard work quickly reeducated this type [homosexual men]. Most of them worked very hard and took great care not to get into trouble so that they could be released as soon as possible. They also avoided associating with those afflicted with this depravity and wanted to make it known that they had nothing to do with homosexuals. In this way countless rehabilitated young men could be released without having a relapse.”

      Wait a second, I thought Hoess’s memoirs were not a valid source. After all, in his memoirs he admits to the killing of the Jews.

      Well, that’s a bit of a pickle. So, we can selectively use Hoess’s memoirs when it suits us? But, if that’s the case, why do deniers claim the memoirs are false?

      So confused.

      Maybe one of you deniers can answer those questions.

      Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 12:13 pm

      • I would think whatever. Hoess said would be up to question.
        In regards to blaming Hitler for what happened to the Germans after the war the allies and surrounding hatrfilled people had to still act like humans but they chose not to this had nothing to do with Hitler.
        Unless revenge is something that you feel they we’re privileged to be involved.
        You’re not happy unless you blame him for everything that happened during the war.

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — April 17, 2016 @ 12:20 pm

        • You wrote “I would think whatever Hoess said would be up to question.”

          I wrote about Hoess, confessing after he could no longer stand the torture, to which he was subjected, by British Jews: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/why-did-rudolf-hoess-confess-the-british-took-it-out-of-him-with-torture-says-his-80-year-old-daughter/

          Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 12:27 pm

        • “In regards to blaming Hitler for what happened to the Germans after the war the allies and surrounding hatrfilled people had to still act like humans but they chose not to this had nothing to do with Hitler.”

          Well, Jim, Hitler invaded Poland and the Soviet Union. The Germans exploited the areas they occupied to the detriment of the native population so I understand why this pissed off both the Poles and Soviets. The Germans exploited Czechoslovakia but caused less damage, still, I understand why this also pissed off the Czechs. I don’t condone the actions of these and other countries but I understand why it happened.

          “Unless revenge is something that you feel they we’re privileged to be involved.”

          I’m sure it seemed justified at the time. It is sad that innocent Germans suffered.

          “You’re not happy unless you blame him for everything that happened during the war.”

          I blame Hitler for mess he caused. He put himself in this mess by invading Poland, a country with a treaty with the British and French that placed Poland under their protection. He made an even bigger mess when he invaded the Soviet Union and then compounded this mess by declaring war on the US, a country he could not bomb, much less invade.

          Seriously, I simply don’t understand the Hitler hero worship.

          Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 12:41 pm

          • You wrote: “Well, Jim, Hitler invaded Poland”
            Yes, it is a well known fact that Hitler invaded Poland. I wrote about this at

            https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/alfred-naujocks-and-the-start-of-world-war-ii/

            Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 12:49 pm

            • I read your previous blog post on this matter. One of the things that struck me was this sentence:

              “The German people are famous for planning everything carefully; they leave nothing to chance.”

              I assume you were making a joke or being sarcastic. That was funny, I appreciate it.

              Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 1:01 pm

              • When I wrote: “The German people are famous for planning everything carefully; they leave nothing to chance.”, I was being sarcastic, but what I wrote is really true. The German people, as well as German-Americans, like myself, really do plan everything carefully. Do you think that I wrote a huge website, starting in 1997, without any planning? Do you think that my website just grew like Topsy? http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/Topsy

                Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 1:12 pm

                • “When I wrote: “The German people are famous for planning everything carefully; they leave nothing to chance.”, I was being sarcastic, but what I wrote is really true. The German people, as well as German-Americans, like myself, really do plan everything carefully.”

                  Examples of careful German planning during WW II:

                  Attacking the Soviet Union without taking into account the possibility the campaign might last longer, resulting in German troops not having the proper winter gear when the campaign extended into the Fall 1941/Winter 1942

                  A follow up to my first point: beginning Operation Typhoon, the assault on Moscow, in October of 1941 without properly equipping their troops for Winter weather

                  Not converting German industry to total war production until the Spring of 1942

                  The on again, off again allocation of resources to possible war-winning weapons like the ME-262 Jet Fighter and the “V” Rockets (to be fair, this was more of an issue with Adolph Hitler)

                  This list is simply off the top of my head. I’m sure if I thought longer about it I could come up with more examples of careful German planning.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 2:24 pm

            • Is everybody forgetting to bring up Stalin? I’m not defending hitler,but history always brings up hitler invaded Poland . On a good day you might see them say Stalin was coming in the other direction. If we’re lucky,it might make it as a footnote.

              Comment by Tim — April 17, 2016 @ 3:02 pm

              • That’s a good point, Tim.
                Stalin was smart in realizing that both sides wanted the Soviet Union. Stalin sat back and let the suitors come to him. The Germans offered him a better deal. Stalin realized that the Germans offered him a way to stay out of the fighting and even gain territory.
                In the end, though, this cost Stalin dearly. The Soviets suffered 27 million dead, with the most developed part of their country in shambles. The end of the war caused another famine in the Soviet Union. I think this is why Stalin proceeded rather cautiously towards the West in the years directly after the war.

                Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 4:44 pm

        • Jim Rizoli wrote: “In regards to blaming Hitler for what happened to the Germans after the war ”

          What happened to the ethnic Germans ouside Germany is interesting. Even if that brutal mass expulsion partly took place out of the chaos of war, it’s now said: “The death toll attributable to the flight and expulsions [of ethnic Germans] is disputed, with estimates ranging from 500,000, up to a West German demographic estimate from the 1950s of over 2 million. More recent estimates by some historians put the total at 500-600,000 attested deaths; they maintain that the West German government figures lack adequate support and that during the Cold War the higher figures were used for political propaganda.The German Historical Museum puts the figure at 600,000, maintaining that the figure of 2 million deaths in the previous government studies cannot be supported. The current official position of the German government is that the death toll resulting from the flight and expulsions ranged from 2 to 2.5 million civilians.” ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_(1944%E2%80%9350) )

          A difference of around 2 million dead between postwar estimates makes the numerous Zionists claiming 6 million Jews had just disappeared before the war had even ended look like shameless swindlers.

          What 6 million Jews in the first place? 7 decades after the end of WW2, exterminationists are happy when they can provide a list of one million people PERSECUTED by the Nazis (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/database-holocaust-victims-reaches-million-names-38245925).

          Comment by hermie — April 18, 2016 @ 4:25 am

      • You wrote:
        “That blame falls to Hitler for pushing his country to war.”
        Was it Hitler who wanted war, or was it the allied leaders?”

        I wrote about this on this blog post:

        https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/01/19/german-soldiers-were-treated-as-war-criminals-by-the-allies-after-world-war-ii/

        Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 1:02 pm

      • “That blame falls to Hitler for pushing his country to war.”

        Here we go again – Hitler and Germany responsible for everything!

        No mention of the Versailles Treaty, and the Allied attempt to dismantle Germany as a major European power after WW1. No mention of the deliberately punitive reparations that were demanded from Germany. No mention of the attempted Jewish Bolshevik take-over of central Europe between 1918 and 1921. No mention of how Austria and Hungary were dismantled from major European powers – sharing a joint empire – into small nation states with disputed territorial borders. No mention that Poland was a belligerent nation state towards its neighbours from the time it was reformed after WW1.

        No mention of the many Soviet attempts to agitate and instigate revolutions in various European countries. No mention of Britain, France and Italy expanding their empires after WW1 – while at the same time ensuring Germany was contained within its Versailles-dictated borders. No mention of how Britain, the USA and Japan carved up the world’s oceans in their own interests in 1922, while Germany was divested of its entire navy. No mention of the terrible inflation of the early 1920’s that reduced the German middle-class to paupers. No mention of the Wall-Street Crash and the consequent economic depression that hit Germany particularly hard between 1929 and 1932.

        No mention that Britain and France occupied the German Rhineland for over a decade after the end of WW1, and then insisted that the territory should be de-militarised, although their own territories and sea-lanes were fully militarised. No mention that Britain was preparing for an air war over Germany from 1935 onwards. No mention of how Britain and France permitted Hitler to go ahead with the Austrian Anschluss, and how they conspired together to dismantle Czechoslovakia. And no mention of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which allowed the Soviet Union to grab half of Poland for themselves.

        No – everything is reduced to a parrot who regurgitates unthinkingly the tired old lines;- “Germany started the war by invading Poland”.

        Comment by Talbot — April 17, 2016 @ 2:19 pm

        • I wrote about the reasons for the start of World War II here: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/why-did-germany-invade-the-soviet-union-in-1941/

          Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 2:26 pm

          • I read through your previous blog post.
            I think that the idea that the Soviets handed out German phrase books is interesting, however, it does not prove a strike was eminent.
            For one thing, Zhukov suggested a preemptive strike in May of 1941. Stalin shot this down, primarily because the Winter War with Finland proved that the Red Army was not effective at offensive operations.
            The second thing to consider is the state of the Red Army itself in 1941. It was poorly equipped, it’s officer Corp was a shambles and it’s supply system primitive. The Red Army only possesed a few of the T-34 tanks.
            I think at some point, had Hitler conquered Britain and then settled down to consolidate his gains,
            Stalin may have attacked but this possibility was a few years down the road.
            I think a preemptive attack from the Soviet Union would have ended in disaster. Imagine an attack by the poorly armed and led Red Army in the Summer of 1941. Their planes and tanks had few radios so any widespread attack would have bogged down in chaos. The experienced Germans would defeat any force like this really quickly, leading to a disaster. So, I don’t think the Soviets had any immediate plans to attack Germany.

            Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 5:04 pm

        • Great summation!

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — April 17, 2016 @ 2:34 pm

        • “That blame falls to Hitler for pushing his country to war.”

          “Here we go again – Hitler and Germany responsible for everything!”

          My, did I hit a nerve?

          “No mention of the Versailles Treaty, and the Allied attempt to dismantle Germany as a major European power after WW1. No mention of the deliberately punitive reparations that were demanded from Germany.”

          The Versailles Treaty was nothing more than a half measure. The French wanted to do more, however, the US and British refused to allow the French to form buffer states and other punitive measures the French wanted. The result was a weakened Germany but hardly a dismantled one. Germany retained its great power potential, a point driven home by a militarized Germany that conquered Poland in less than two months in 1939.

          “No mention of the attempted Jewish Bolshevik take-over of central Europe between 1918 and 1921.”

          I’ll ignore the goofy “Jewish Bolshevik” moniker. Suffice it to say that all of the attempted Communist takeovers in Europe failed spectacularly, resulting in a much more hostile environment for Communists in Central and Eastern Europe.

          “No mention of how Austria and Hungary were dismantled from major European powers – sharing a joint empire – into small nation states with disputed territorial borders.”

          This is actually true. The break up of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the formation of weaker successor states satisfied no one and resulted in trade barriers where none existed previously. It also resulted in disaffected minorities in these countries, not just Germans, who longed to return to their parent countries. Just to clear up one point, the Sudetenland never belonged to Germany. It belonged to the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

          “No mention that Poland was a belligerent nation state towards its neighbours from the time it was reformed after WW1.”

          That’s funny.
          At the end of WW I Poland did engage in wars with the Ukraine and the USSR that resulted in Polish expansion, however, by the end of the 20’s/beginning of the 30’s Poland became more cautious. The Poles attempted to straddle the fence between Germany and the USSR, remaining distant to Hitler’s attempts to persuade Poland to join Germany against the USSR. Poland actually benefited from the aftermath of the Munich Agreement, gaining a small amount of territory, but Hungary gained much more territory.

          “No mention of the many Soviet attempts to agitate and instigate revolutions in various European countries.”

          Which did not prevent the Treaty of Rapallo in 1922, resulting in very friendly relations between Germany and the USSR, including am agreement to allow secret German military factories in the USSR to allow Germany to circumvent the Versailles Treaty. It even allowed Germany to conduct military maneuvers in the USSR. This indicated a shift in Soviet policy, what Stalin called “Socialism in one country,” a realization that the USSR needed to normalize relations with other countries.

          “No mention of Britain, France and Italy expanding their empires after WW1 –”

          An Italy that later allied with Nazi Germany…

          “while at the same time ensuring Germany was contained within its Versailles-dictated borders. No mention of how Britain, the USA and Japan carved up the world’s oceans in their own interests in 1922, while Germany was divested of its entire navy.”

          I’ll concede this point for now.

          “No mention of the terrible inflation of the early 1920’s that reduced the German middle-class to paupers.”

          What does that have to do with anything? The allies forced the Germans to print worthless paper currency? Inflation struck everywhere due to massive war debt by the participants of the war. Inflation was not just a German problem.

          “No mention of the Wall-Street Crash and the consequent economic depression that hit Germany particularly hard between 1929 and 1932.”

          Um, Talbot, the Great Depression hurt everyone, not just Germany.

          “No mention that Britain and France occupied the German Rhineland for over a decade after the end of WW1, and then insisted that the territory should be de-militarised, although their own territories and sea-lanes were fully militarized.”

          You forgot to mention that the British and French did nothing when Germany re-occupied the Rhineland.

          “No mention that Britain was preparing for an air war over Germany from 1935 onwards.”

          You didn’t mention the reformed German Air Force, the Luftwaffe. The Germans announced the reformation of a German Air Force in, surprise, 1935. So, are you saying that the British didn’t have the right to build their own Air Force in response? They didn’t have the right to prepare for the possibility of an air war with Germany? Their foresight served them well during the Battle of Britain. Oddly, Chamberlain, the alleged arch-appeaser, pushed for the modernization of both the RAF and the radar installations that protected Britain during the Battle of Britain.

          “No mention of how Britain and France permitted Hitler to go ahead with the Austrian Anschluss, and how they conspired together to dismantle Czechoslovakia.”

          I have mentioned this in the past, the rather desperate attempts of both the British and French to give Hitler anything he wanted to prevent war. They only realized they couldn’t trust him after Hitler took over the rest of Czechoslovakia.

          “And no mention of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which allowed the Soviet Union to grab half of Poland for themselves.”

          It also allowed Germany to grab half of Poland. Did you forget that? It was the price paid for USSR’s neutrality.

          “No – everything is reduced to a parrot”

          Well, I do like crackers in soup. I also like crackers and peanut butter.

          “who regurgitates unthinkingly the tired old lines;- “Germany started the war by invading Poland”.”

          Germany started the war by attacking a country, Poland, that had a treaty with Britain and France that guaranteed Poland’s borders. Both the British and French repeatedly warned Hitler that an attack on Poland would result in war. Hitler responded by invading Poland. Britain and France declared war. See how that works?

          Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 3:27 pm

          • Your reply rather proves my point that there were many ingredients that built up throughout the 1920’s and 30’s that led to the outbreak of war in 1939. This treaty, or guarantee, between Britain, France and Poland seems to have been a last-minute desperate attempt to shore-up the status-quo in Europe – which had been very favourable to these three nations since the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.

            In the circumstances, is it any wonder that Germany was trying to re-dress what it perceived as an unfair, and harshly imposed settlement dating from the end of WW1. One could even argue that if Britain and France had not stuck their snouts into a dispute between Poland and Germany, then Hitler might well have been content with an agreement on the Danzig question, as well as the “Polish Corridor”, and the German minorities living in Poland.

            But dear old Imperial Britain and France – always wanting to interfere everywhere – foolishly encouraged the Poles not to compromise at all, but to stand firm against German demands. Now, in my eyes, this posturing, threatening and war-mongering attitude is no better or worse than the decision by a nation to actually launch hostilities in pursuit of its perceived interests.

            Comment by Talbot — April 17, 2016 @ 5:28 pm

            • “Your reply rather proves my point that there were many ingredients that built up throughout the 1920’s and 30’s that led to the outbreak of war in 1939. This treaty, or guarantee, between Britain, France and Poland seems to have been a last-minute desperate attempt to shore-up the status-quo in Europe – which had been very favourable to these three nations since the Treaty of Versailles in 1919.”

              Yet the British and French fell over themselves giving Hitler whatever he wanted…..from the Rhineland to Austria to the Sudetenland. They never interfered with Germany rearming in spite of this violating the Versailles Treaty. They never interfered with Germany violating the Munich Agreement. It took public opinion souring in both France and Britain for the French and British governments to decide that allowing any further German expansion would constitute a direct threat to their interests.

              “In the circumstances, is it any wonder that Germany was trying to re-dress what it perceived as an unfair, and harshly imposed settlement dating from the end of WW1.”

              Of course not. However, threatening war and ratcheting up tension between countries was not the correct way to go about it.

              “One could even argue that if Britain and France had not stuck their snouts into a dispute between Poland and Germany, then Hitler might well have been content with an agreement on the Danzig question, as well as the “Polish Corridor”, and the German minorities living in Poland.”

              Possibly so. However, the Poles correctly perceived this as a threat to THEIR interests. Whether or not the Germans felt any injustice over the Corridor or Danzig was irrelevant. The Poles considered the Corridor their territory…..which, at that time, it was. Nothing required them to negotiate over the Corridor. As far as the German minority….please. The WEIMAR REPUBLIC made a bigger issue over the fate of the German minority in Poland. Hitler never made an issue over the German minority until the Polish refused to buckle under and give him what he wanted.
              Now, to be fair, was it in the Poles best interest to negotiate? Absolutely. The British and French even urged them to do so. However, nothing required them to do so.

              “But dear old Imperial Britain and France – always wanting to interfere everywhere – foolishly encouraged the Poles not to compromise at all, but to stand firm against German demands.”

              Yet the French and British never interfered with German moves in the Rhineland, Austria, the Sudetenland and the occupation of Bohemia and Moravia. Neither the Sudetenland or Austria were ever part of Germany though both were ethnically German. The Imperial country in Europe was Germany, not France or Britain.

              “Now, in my eyes, this posturing, threatening and war-mongering attitude is no better or worse than the decision by a nation to actually launch hostilities in pursuit of its perceived interests.”

              Really? Falling over themselves in giving Germany whatever it wanted until Poland was posturing, threatening and war mongering? Was it war mongering to force the Poles to stop their mobilization on August 30th, 1939? Who was the war mongerer by invading Poland on August 26th, 1939, only withdrawing in an attempt to split the West from the Poles?

              Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 7:28 pm

          • You wrote: “Just to clear up one point, the Sudetenland never belonged to Germany. It belonged to the Austro-Hungarian Empire.”
            I wrote about the Sudetennland on this blog post:

            https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/04/16/the-little-known-fate-of-the-sudeten-germans/

            Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 5:49 pm

  4. The Holocaust has now become the State Religion of the western world . Like the Bible with its stories of Noah living to 700 and David and Goliath it is largely based on fables. This doesn’t stop the gullible believing though. As for Homosexuals they were able to carry on with their activities unmolested in liberal Amsterdam throughout the occupation and nobody was ” beheaded ” for being ” gay ” .

    Comment by peter — April 17, 2016 @ 5:57 am

    • No one was “gay” in the 1940ies. Gays were “fags” back then.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 6:30 am

  5. I missed something here. The club,”attempts to read 15,000 to 20,000 names every year”. They’re reading names for 24 hours straight. That’s all the names they can read in a 24 hour period? “Even if 20,000 names are successfully read”. “Successfully read”. What does that mean? Are these club members illiterate? They have a hard time pronouncing the names. 600 years to read the names of the holo victims. 12 mill of them ( there it is. Number has changed again). I figure if one name is read every other second,then that’s 30 names per minute. Thirty names at sixty minutes,is 1,800 names per hour. 1,800 names at 24 hours is 43,000 plus names. Why is it they say they can only read 15,000 to 20,000 names in 24 hours? Like I said,did I miss something.

    Comment by Tim — April 17, 2016 @ 3:26 am

    • But Tim – you’ve got to remember that these 12,000,000 names are all holy ones. They allegedly perished in an imaginary event called “the holocaust”. Therefore, the names have to be read out slowly and with great reverence. There will obviously be lengthy gaps between each name as it is called, so that listeners can pray for the departed soul of each individual. They might even have a bell that will toll during this interval, and it is quite likely that after every 50 names have been read, then a fanfare of trumpets will sound and a gaggle of Rabbis will emerge from the inner sanctity of the temple to chant a load of Talmudic mumbo-jumbo in memory of these largely made-up names.

      Comment by Talbot — April 17, 2016 @ 6:52 am

      • Is God gonna make a guest appearance? Maybe they can get Herb Alpert to sit in on the horn section. I’m not trying to make sport of a bad period in history,but their begging for it. Well I figure since these (the Jews) were “not” the “regular people”,he’ll show up. That’s why it’s hard for me to lend the proverbial “sympathetic ear”,because the Jews seem to act so condescending. Seriously though. Do they really think people will believe it takes 600 years to get through the list of names.

        Comment by Tim — April 17, 2016 @ 8:28 am

  6. The news article says;- “What makes the Holocaust unique, though, is the fact the Nazi Party kept diligent notes on everyone they killed…”

    Oh, is that right – I thought that all those people who were allegedly selected immediately for the gas chambers upon arrival at Auschwitz were not registered in the camp. Silly old me – I was wrong again!

    The article goes on to quote an American-born guy named Mr Guttman, who;- “noted six different relatives of his who died in concentration camps, and said he was lucky his grandparents emigrated to America when they had the chance.”

    So what he’s basically telling his audience, is that he personally hasn’t got very much connection with the jolly old holocaust at all. He’s just like most other people alive today who lost distant relatives in WW2, or they emigrated to far off lands during the post-war upheavals and they simply lost contact with them.

    He said;- “…at times, the readings are hard to handle.” (sob!). “It’s a very moving experience when you read through the list and you come upon a page that (is full of the same last name),” Guttman said. “It starts off with somebody in their 80s, and it goes down to somebody that’s, like, 1-year-old… You watch as you go through two or three pages and it’s just the same (last) name, and you realize it was an entire family that was exterminated.” ( oh boo-hoo!)

    Anyway, Mr Guttman was addressing an audience in a Jewish club in West Virginia, and this club attempts to read at least 15,000-20,000 names every year (bless-em!).

    “Even if 20,000 names are successfully read every year, it would still take 600 years total to read every name.”

    So there we have it, folks! – the holocaust now stands at a grand total of 12,000,000.

    “However mountainous the feat may be, though, Guttman insists, remembering is necessary.”

    Well, all I can say – is that my heart goes out to the Jewish community of West Virginia who are about to embark upon this mammoth 600 year project of naming the 12,000,000 precious lost souls. But they really should invest in some throat lozenges before they commence, because there’s going to be some mighty sore throats as the years progress, with the names being read out loudly, solemnly and continuously.

    Comment by Talbot — April 16, 2016 @ 6:45 pm

    • I guess the Germans we diligent on keeping notes on the people they didn’t want to keep notes on…..you know the people who immediately went into the “gas” chambers who were supposed to be written down but they didn’t right down.
      Ok everyone who’s following me on this one……are you keeping notes on this?

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — April 16, 2016 @ 8:22 pm

      • You wrote about “the people who immediately went into gas chambers” whose names were not written down. The so-called “gas chambers” were shower rooms, and the Nazis didn’t expect that anyone would die in a shower room. Today, you can still see a “gas chamber” at Dachau that is a shower room. Zyklon-B pellets were allegedly thrown into the shower room through two little windows on the outside wall of the shower room. If you deny this, you will go to prison for 5 years in Germany.

        Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 6:47 am

        • I’m still waiting for someone to show me the nazi guillotine or chopping block. This will make for a good movie

          Comment by Tim — April 17, 2016 @ 8:31 am

          • I wrote about the guillotine, used by the Nazis, on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/british-soe-agent-bruce-dowding-was-executed-by-beheading-fallbeil-during-world-war-ii/

            Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 8:49 am

            • The true Holocaust was against Germany and it’s people.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — April 17, 2016 @ 9:32 am

            • Germany suffered more than Jews….

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — April 17, 2016 @ 9:37 am

            • Okay. I read about the guillotine. I’ve figured out that the only thing consistent about the holo,is that nothing is consistent. This ol boy was beheaded by the nazis. Then it turns around and says,” by some accounts he was beheaded”. That sounds like somebody has another version of how he died. So who did this priest witness that was beheaded? It said there are different accounts on how this guy died. If that’s the case,then I’m not gonna buy into this man being the one executed as the gospel. If I misread that,please let me know.

              Comment by Tim — April 17, 2016 @ 10:28 am

          • I have a photo of the “nazi guillotine or chopping block” somewhere on my scrapbookpages.com website, but I can’t find it.

            Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 10:05 am

            • Forget the pics. Find something conclusive that says Dowding was ” beheaded”. The story from the outside source that you used in your article said,”by some accounts he was beheaded”. Right now I’ll settle on wether they took his head or not. Too much,”he said,she said” that goes on with the holo.

              Comment by Tim — April 17, 2016 @ 10:36 am

  7. “Half of the people killed were Jews. The other half were,”regular people”. What the shit is that? This article almost sounds,like a Jew wrote it. If you’re not a Jew,then I guess you’re an immortal Jew . Let me guess. Since they got killed for being Jews,they receive martyrdom status. That’s what it sounds like to me. Since they’re Jews,their killing receives special attention? Murder is murder. Ol Mr. Grim Reaper don’t give two shits who a person is. He’s equal opportunity. Why is it that now this surfaces? How long has the war been over? Now this shit pops up outta nowhere. So from November of ’45 to April of 2016,nobody mentioned this. That’s what,70 years? Something like this,people (maybe not many) would be talking about it. Even if they just dismissed it as a rumor. Something like this didn’t come up in the trials . If this did in fact happen,why didn’t somebody bring it up at trial. Hey. They wanted to make the krauts look like cold blooded killers. There’s just too much shit pop up outta nowhere,when it comes to the holo. I’m at the point to where I can say two words apply to a lot( not all) of the events of the holo. Urban Legend. How come people that tour the nazi prisons are never told about this? There’s not a couple used guillotines laying around somewhere? How about a chopping block. How efficient were the nazis when it came to taking care of business? Not just the events of the holo,but everything? I heard they quit shooting people,because it made for shitty production. Beheadings. How much would that slow everything down? You got people talking about lampshades made from human skin. Well if that’s the case,we got a bunch of headless bodies laying around. Clean and polish the skulls,you’d have some fine bookends. Urban Legend.

    Comment by Tim — April 16, 2016 @ 2:36 pm

  8. Just another atrocity story to keep the public’s interest.
    No different than them throwing babies into the crematorium alive, except for the woman who delivered 3000 babies in the camps.
    All of her babies must of survived. Unless she forgot to mention that they were taken away from her and toasted roasted.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — April 16, 2016 @ 2:19 pm

  9. It sounds as though Höß followed the lives of the (formerly) gay inmates who visited his camp, after their release(s). Whether he did or not, he certainly advertised his “product” with a hearty recommendation, much like charlatans in other countries who “cured” homosexuality in that and other, even more-bizarre and -ineffectual ways.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — April 16, 2016 @ 1:27 pm

    • Wow, you said something I actually agree with.

      Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 12:16 pm

      • I believe that Jett Rucker was writing sarcastically. Höß did not “follow the lives of the formerly gay inmates who visited the camp after their release.” The Commandants of the camps were too busy with other things such as maintaining the schedule of gassing the inmates.

        Comment by furtherglory — April 17, 2016 @ 12:44 pm

        • This is the bit that I agree with:

          “Whether he did or not, he certainly advertised his “product” with a hearty recommendation, much like charlatans in other countries who “cured” homosexuality in that and other, even more-bizarre and -ineffectual ways.”

          Mr. Rucker is completely correct on this point.

          Comment by Jeff K. — April 17, 2016 @ 12:56 pm


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