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April 23, 2016

How an 11-year-old Jewish boy was saved from the gas chamber twice by his father

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 8:50 am
2005 photo of the remains of the Birkenau camp

2005 photo of remains of Birkenau camp

The following quote is from this news article:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/holocaust-survivor-saskatoon-auschwitz-1.3540381

The article tells the story of how an 11-year-old boy was saved twice, by his father, from a gas chamber in Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Normally, an 11-year-old boy would have stayed with his mother at Birkenau, not with his father, while waiting for his turn to be gassed.

Women and children waiting to go into the gas chamber at Birkenau

Women and children waiting to go into the gas chamber at Birkenau

The women and children in the photo above are looking across the road toward the Sauna in Birkenau where the incoming Jews took a shower, and their clothing was disinfected with Zyklon-B.

There were 4 large homicidal gas chambers at the 425-acre Auschwitz-Birkenau camp, plus two old farmhouses where Jews were routinely  gassed with the deadly poison called Zyklon-B, which was also used to kill lice.

Ruins of Krema II gas chamber

Ruins of Krema II gas chamber

The following quote is from the news article, cited above:

Begin quote

Seventy-one years after the Holocaust, a concentration camp survivor told his story about his father saved his life while at the deadly concentration camp Auschwitz.

On Sunday, Nate Leipciger, 88, shared his remarkable survivor story at the annual Saskatoon Holocaust Memorial at the Agudas Israel Synagogue on McKinnon Avenue in Saskatoon [Canada].

He told the packed room how, as a boy in Auschwitz, he didn’t fully grasp what the Nazis had in store for the Jews.

“At 11 years old, I had no idea that the Nazis are going to murder us,” Leipciger said. “Not even when I was standing in front of the gas chamber in Auschwitz, did it occur to me that my life was going to be in danger.”

The article continues with this quote:

Begin Quote

He [Nate Leipciger] told the audience how at one point, he found himself in line for the deadly gas chamber. But his father acted fast, pulling Leipciger out of the lineup, taking him into the concentration camp, where he then saw the unforgiving labour camps and conditions men and women lived in.

That’s when we found out what they were doing to our people, they told us, that our people are now being processed in the gas chamber and that our lifespan in Birkenau was four months–either we get shipped out to Germany or we will end up in the gas chamber. Not a very good future.”

His father’s second heroic moment came when the Nazis were ready to ship Leipciger’s father to a factory in Germany, but his father made a case to a Nazi officer to bring his son along with him.

“At the risk of his own life my father approached [a Nazi officer] and begged him to let me go with him to Germany to a factory and that’s how I was saved from certain death of gassing at Auschwitz,” Leipciger said.

End quote

My photo of a fence that divided the men's camp from the wo

My photo of a fence that divided sections of the Birkenau camp

The Auschwitz-Birkenau camp is huge, covering 425 acres. The boundaries of the Birkenau camp stretch a mile in one direction and a mile and a half in the other direction. When construction, on the camp, was completed, it had over 300 buildings with a capacity of 200,000 prisoners. The entire Birkenau camp was enclosed by an electrified barbed wire fence around the perimeter of the camp.

The interior of the camp was divided into nine sections and each section was surrounded by another electrified barbed wire fence. Men and women were in separate sections, and the younger children stayed in the women’s section. An 11-year-old boy would probably have been put into the women’s camp.

Young boys walking out of the Birkenau camp after it was liberated

Young boys walking out of the Birkenau camp after it was liberated

There were many young boys, aged 11 or younger, who survived Auschwitz-Birkenau.

 

62 Comments »

  1. COMMENTATORS. In the SHOAH – HOLOCAUST the Nazis wanted to exterminate all of us. Almost every survival is due to an act of bravery, righy way to adress the German official one had been facing, race with time, etc. I consider all the purtian fault searching questions risen in the comments as sign that You regret our survival. Indeed, the start of discriminations had been considered so by USA as UK an internal affair of Germany and event occured before September 1, 1939 – included the anextion of Austria – had not been discussed at Nuernberg Trial, obviously to avoid to show the cowardice of western democratic politicians. I am fed up of all Your malicious questioning.

    Comment by WOLF MURMELSTEIN — April 24, 2016 @ 7:44 am

    • I wrote, at length, about “Der Anschluss”, on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Austria/Anschluss01.html

      I am a Holocaust denier, but that page on my website is about history, not about denial.

      If you take the time, to read what I wrote, you will see that Wolf and I have a completely different opinion on this subject.

      The following quote is from the article on my website, near the end:

      “After the Anschluss, Dr. Schuschnigg was imprisoned by the Nazis from March 1938 until early May 1945. He spent some time in the VIP section of Sachsenhausen concentration camp before he was transferred to Dachau in the last days of the war. After the war he was detained by the American military until 1947 when he was finally allowed to emigrate to America. Schuschnigg was not exactly a hero to the Americans since he had capitulated to Hitler so quickly. In 1948, he became a Professor of International Law and Contemporary Diplomatic History at Washington University in St. Louis, MO. He retired to Innsbruck and died in 1977.”

      My mother wanted me to attend Washington University in St. Louis, but I declined; I went to the University of Missouri instead.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 24, 2016 @ 8:25 am

    • I agree with you on one thing there. Our elected leaders are chickenshit cowards. Don’t wanna hurt anyone’s feelings. They (the politicians ) had us fight Nam with one hand. They decided how and where the war would be fought. How the hell are they gonna know how to fight a war,when they’re sitting in an air conditioned office,half a world away? Same shit with the trials. They were giving the world,what they (the world) wanted,not what was right. They just wanted to be elected to another term. Didn’t matter if folks were gettin a fair trial or not.

      Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 8:34 am

    • You wrote: “the Nazis wanted to exterminate all of us.”

      If the Nazis had wanted to “exterminate” all of the Jews, like bugs, they would not have used Zyklon-B to kill the lice in the camps. They would have let the lice bite the Jews and give them typhus.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 24, 2016 @ 8:49 am

    • malicious questioning

      There is no “malicious” intent.

      Wolf, you often (and rightly) criticize the ‘Shoah business’ — but you also not infrequently engage in one aspect of it yourself (as here): attempting to shame people, or make them feel guilty, for questioning the ‘Holocaust’ story — I think you are just too emotionally invested to think rationally about it — you should try to understand that, on the other hand, widespread belief and propagandizing about the ‘Holocaust’ has a tremendous effect on many European countries — not only are people jailed for questioning it, but specifically re Germany, without residual yet still strong guilt about the ‘Holocaust’ the Germans would not be committing national suicide as they are today.

      Comment by eah — April 24, 2016 @ 9:28 am

      • Exactly. I’ve always thought,how can he keep an objective view,when he was in the middle of the shit. That would be like having a jury of rape victims judge an accused rapist. That shit wouldn’t fly either.

        Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 11:45 am

        • It’s hard to be objective when you are right in the middle of the problem.
          How do you criticize your own ethnic group.

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — April 24, 2016 @ 11:49 am

          • So why is he going to bring anything to the table here,that they haven’t tried to sell people already. Whenever someone tries to bring something up,he seems to use standard textbook responses. The same shit they’ve been selling for years. Maybe a bit to closed minded to accept anything else. One thing that has bothers me though. When kids that young,get exposed,to something that traumatic,they tend to block the shit out. A coping mechanism . They can’t process it. They ain’t mature enough to. As they get older,they think back on it. How accurate are their memories gonna be if they’ve blocked the shit out for years? What about the people that were old enough to where they could remember it. How much have those people filled in the blank spots for those kids,with “their” version?

            Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 12:03 pm

      • eah wrote: “without residual yet still strong guilt about the ‘Holocaust’ the Germans would not be committing national suicide as they are today.”

        There is no national suicide in Germany, nor in any other formerly-White country. There is only the Jewish eternal foreigner securing his status by making the countries under his boot more ‘diverse.’ The death of all formerly-White countries is a logical and inescapable consequence of Jewish hegemony. The emergence of a world under Jewish domination was proclaimed as a war aim of the Jew-owned Allies before the alleged ‘Holocaust’ had even begun.

        If the death of formerly-White countries was a consequence of the Holohoax, not of Jewish hegemony itself, the countries secularly friendly to Jews wouldn’t be dying too, and they are for sure. Of course, the Jewish rulers of formerly-White countries and their collaborators often use the Holohoax to crush any threat to their hegemony such as nationalism. But the Holohoax is just one of their tools. They would also do that even if they hadn’t the Holohoax. In Mein Kampf, Hitler already mentioned the Jewish flooding of Europe by dark races as a tool of Jewish hegemony. The second half of the 20th century only demonstrated how right he was about that and about the rest…

        Comment by hermie — April 26, 2016 @ 8:09 am

        • Watch a great movie on Netflix last night called Hitler’s back if it was only true

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — April 26, 2016 @ 8:16 am

          • I didn’t see that one. What about,”escape the nazi death camps”. Have you watched it? It said its about the last surviving members of Sobibor and how they made a bold rebellion . Some shit like that. The movie is in the documentary section,but I have a feeling it should be in the comedy section. I’m still waiting for some jew to bring up the fact that Mad magazine was poking fun at the holo. It was a 2 page spoof of the holo. If you run across it,read the cartoon.

            Comment by Tim — April 26, 2016 @ 8:44 am

              • Thanks for digging out that piece about Sobibor, JR – I had a wry smile at the section where the writer asks “A Question for Judge Matia ”

                Since Judge Matia effectively sealed John Demjanjuk’s fate, I would like to ask him this pointed question. Since we cannot determine how many “gas chambers” there were, nor their dimensions and capacities; what the exact death gas really was; what type of engine was used to generate the death gas; what the chambers were made of; where these structures were located; how long it took for the victims to be asphyxiated; how the corpses were removed from the chambers; how the bodies were buried in a lake-like area; what substance was used to burn the bodies; how the millions of unburned bones and teeth were disposed of; and how many were killed: how then can Judge Matia rule with any confidence that John Demjanjuk “contributed to the process by which thousands of Jews were murdered?”

                Yes indeed – how could anyone arrive at such a ruling with any confidence, let alone the good and upright Judge Matia !

                Comment by Talbot — April 26, 2016 @ 1:07 pm

              • Are these people grasping at straws? They go after the guy in ’77. Now in’86,almost 10 yrs later,they decide to ship his off,to stand trial . What the hell were they doing in that 10 yr time period in between? Did they use that time to build a case against him? I’m just trying to figure way they were dragging their dicks,for as long as they were. In ’88,they sentence him to death. In ’93 he was aquitted and gets to come back to the U.S. That shit didn’t fly,so the justice Department puts another case on him in ’99. Once again,why did it take so long to put another case on him. Why didn’t they pin these new charges on him,at his first trial? So here we are back at square one. Takes another 10 yrs (that number seems to be always hanging close by the man) to deport his ass. This time they send him to Germany to stand trial. Why didn’t they send him back to Israel ? That’s where his first trial was held. What. The Jews in Israel don’t wanna look like idiots again? That Rosenbaum that was with the Justice departmen ts OSI. Is that knot head a Jew . Germany and America decided this man was an accessory to murder. It took them 10 damn years to come to that conclusion? So the man goes from being someone that operated the gas house,to just some poor slob that gave the hebs a nudge to move them into the gas house. So Israel tossed everything out that said this man was Ivan the terrible. Okay so he wasn’t Ivan at one prison,so let’s make him Ivan at another prison. The one I like is where this Bauer fella said ,”perhaps this guy was Ivan “. The word “perhaps”,doesn’t really sound like its conclusive. If you want to convict this man,it seems like you’d want your shit to be conclusive. Here’s another one that don’t make dick for sense. So they said all these people were murdered and buried in pits. Then they turned around,dug up all these stiffs and burned them. Isn’t that double work? If they did in fact ,kill all these people, wouldn’t they want to get rid of the stiffs asap? Next we got some idiot federal judge that said this man was a prison guard. This was the judges official ruling. So if a judge made this official decision,why did it take another 7 years to deport him,to stand trial? There is so much here that makes no sense. So much of this shit,contradicts itself.

                Comment by Tim — April 28, 2016 @ 5:04 am

        • I got to take issue with that. We may not be commiting suicide here the U S,but we suffer from white guilt. Why you think we ended up with a black CIC? ( okay.hes a half breed)Blacks learn from the Jews I guess. Exploit the hell outta the situation. The blacks think he’s on their side. I guarantee you,when he’s outta the public eye,he has the,”I hate ni–ers”attitude. Hell when was elected to his 2nd term,that one was fixed to no end. I was watching the election results. Romney was way out in front. He was leaving Barry in the dust . I went to the bathroom,come back 10 minutes later and Barry was elected to his 2nd term. I’ll give him points for 2 things. He hates Israel and he throws Clinton under the bus every chance he gets. I always think it would be nice if some woman would give him a BJ in the Oval Office . He makes Clinton and Nixon look like choir boys. Any other president pulled the shit he’s pulled,they’d been facing criminal charges. Nobody wants to challenge him. He’ll just pull out the race card. Every country has been laughing their collective asses off at us. Why do you think our favorite KGB pal and the idiot in NK. Are running around doing whatever they want? They know Barry is too chicken shit to call them down. His wife is a miserable excuse for a First Lady . Deliver us from evil

          Comment by Tim — April 26, 2016 @ 8:33 am

  2. Tim there would be a huge difference between a typhus lvictim body and one who was gassed just in what they would look like. First of all if the person had typhus is a good chance they’re going to be skin and bones if the person was gassed when they first came into the camp they going to have a full-figured body they’re not going to be Skin and Bones so just looking at the body you’re going to see the difference between them you don’t even have to do forensics to see one dying of sickness and the other gas. You never ever see any bodies that were gassed because it didn’t happen there are no full figured bodies that I have seen in pictures. They are all emaciated skin-and-bone bodies which shows that they were victims of typhus, disease, starvation or whatever.

    Wih all the millions of people they say who were gassed on arrival hard to believe not one picture of a full-figured body.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 4:54 pm

  3. Lets not forget the original story when the say all the kids under 15 were gassed when they got into the camp, but for some miracle many children survived to tell their tales later.
    How can that be? Another bone of contention with me ….how come you NEVER see any children bodies anywhere on the ground etc….
    If children were gassed shouldn’t their bodies be visible with all the adult bodies somewhere? Imagine that out of the thousands of pictures not one body of a child “gassed” or on a cremation stretcher. I guess what was done to the children was a top secret mission yet we hear all the stories later on how some children miraculously survived the death throes of the camps no once but up to several times.

    Jim Rizoli
    CCFIILE.COM
    IHR.ORG
    VHO,ORG

    Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 12:00 pm

    • I asked that once before. However in addition to the children,I wanted to know where the bodies of the women were at. Jeff did put up a picture on here of women that we’re going to ventilated,but I’m still looking for the pics of the dead kids.

      Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 12:16 pm

  4. Story credible. The father of that survivor had been able to act at once and to adress in a right way that SS who, perhaps had had a moment of human feelings. Would like to see the picture of that boy at that age. Maybee he had been blond a seemed a German boy.

    Comment by WOLF MURMELSTEIN — April 23, 2016 @ 11:11 am

    • Story credible.

      You believe everything about the ‘Holocaust’ Wolf — so no surprise here.

      However, consider this part of the story:

      …taking him into the concentration camp, where he then saw the unforgiving labour camps and conditions men and women lived in…That’s when we found out what they were doing to our people, they told us, that our people are now being processed in the gas chamber…

      So per his story, it was widely known among the camp inmates that the Nazis were killing people in gas chambers — you have claimed previously that the Nazis were so obsessed with secrecy that eg they waited to do the selections until the trains left — then later these same secrecy-obsessed (but apparently very dumb) Nazis decided to largely evacuate the camp, shipping/marching the inmates to other camps, where many were sure to survive, and thus be able to tell the world about the gas chambers at A-B.

      Question: Do you find that story to be credible too?

      Comment by eah — April 23, 2016 @ 11:47 am

  5. There were actually a couple of errors that I corrected in my version. I also added a couple of pics, intro etc…. The Nordhausen deaths caused by the allies picture and the Rudolf Hoess picture…he had the wrong Hoess.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 10:55 am

  6. I must admit, I’m not greatly surprised that Saskatoon in Canada has an annual Holocaust Memorial event. After all, what does one do in the bleak Canadian prairies for entertainment during those long harsh winters?

    Well, the answer is – that everyone goes along to pack out the local synagogue in order to listen to a recitation of Jewish fairy tales delivered by some old geezer who probably can’t even remember where he left his false-teeth overnight, let alone what he can and can’t recall from events of over 70 years ago.

    I will say this about these holocaust stories – they are never boring; they each have a compelling narrative that holds the listener or reader enthralled. I suppose its due to a skilfully woven fabric of unremitting horror and degradation, combined with the notion that the poor, suffering Jews were so pure, righteous and innocent.

    Comment by Talbot — April 23, 2016 @ 9:41 am

  7. Another tall tale that people will just believe and sheepishly go along with without questioning if it was even possible.
    Here below is a video that sums it up pretty well.
    Good summation of the HoloHoax

    Jim Rizoli
    CCFIILE.COM

    Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 8:54 am

    • Excellent video. I did not see any mistakes. As readers of my blog know, I am always nit-picking and complaining about something, but this video did not have any obvious mistakes.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 23, 2016 @ 9:21 am

      • One of the pictures shows RUDOLF HESS, deputy of Hitler, but writes RUDOLF HOESS, Not even making distiction between the deputy of the Fuehrer and the Comander of Auschwitz. Will find another moment to watch this film and look for other high mistakes like that mentioned.

        Comment by WOLF MURMELSTEIN — April 23, 2016 @ 11:02 am

        • I made corrections in my version of the video…..

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 11:05 am

    • There is one photo in the video, which shows a large number of bodies, laid out at Nordhausen. These are the bodies of prisoners that were killed by American bombs. This photo is sometimes used to claim that these prisoners were gassed. The video could have pointed out that this photo is often misused, but this is a minor point in an otherwise excellent video.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 23, 2016 @ 9:28 am

      • Bet we can find bodies of women and children in those pics. Still don’t answer my question why I never see dead children (not that I want to) in the pics that are supposed to be of the bodies from the gas house.

        Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 12:23 pm

        • You wrote: “I never see dead children (not that I want to) in the pics that are supposed to be of the bodies from the gas house.”

          I did a search on pictures of dead bodies in the Holocaust; I found lots of photos of dead people in the camps, but I did not find any photos of dead children who were allegedly killed in a gas chamber.

          Comment by furtherglory — April 23, 2016 @ 12:35 pm

          • I know you’re not a believer,but did God scoop these kids up before they could have their pics taken. Maybe UFOs picked them up and saved them. I don’t like seeing pics of any dead children,but 2 plus 2 is not coming out to 4 here. Like I said,Jeff provided pics of women getting ready to drop. I’d say if they did in fact kill the kids,wouldn’t it have made sense to leave them with their mothers.

            Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 1:26 pm

            • I would like to see the pics of the women you say “were ready to drop”…..there are NO pictures of anyone being gassed because it didn’t happen.
              All pictures of dead people the majority died from natural cause except the criminals who were shot or hanged.
              The Jews do a lot of talking but about abuses but have no evidence of anything bad happening in the camps, and if by chance any person was killed suspiciously it wasn’t the German policy to do so. There are rouge nutsos in all groups of people and you can’t watch them all and make sure they are doing things right.
              Thats all I know is those who abused or killed prisoners or camp inmates on their own were brought up on charges and some did see the execution block themselves.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 1:36 pm

              • I said they were ready to be ventilated. The picture where they were stripped and walking in a ditch of sorts. Ask Jeff. He’s got the pics. Dropped,shot,wasted,you pick the word. I didn’t say they were going to the gas house. That’s my whole issue with this. I’ve yet to see women and children in the pics of bodies that are supposedly the product of the gas house. That’s why I mentioned 2 and 2 ain’t coming out to 4 here. People that are writing the history of what happened at these prisons,are causing nothing but obfuscation from what I see.

                Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 1:52 pm

                • Tim I sure would like to see that picture you’re talking about in the ditch sometimes the pictures that they present have been tampered with quite a bit and can’t be trusted I just can’t see the Germans killed anybody unless they deserved it.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 2:02 pm

                • You wrote “I sure would like to see that picture you’re talking about in the ditch…”

                  The picture of naked Jewish women walking in a ditch can seen in this photo at https://www.pinterest.com/pin/194710383861857452/

                  Comment by furtherglory — April 23, 2016 @ 2:19 pm

                • Thank you Jesus ! That’s the one Jeff provided me with. I don’t even know where it came from.

                  Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 2:35 pm

                • Jeff provided it when I made mention of never seeing women or children in the photos. I never said I provided it. He’s the one that supplied it,not me.

                  Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 2:33 pm

            • You wrote: “I don’t like seeing pics of any dead children,but 2 plus 2 is not coming out to 4 here.”

              I have a photo of 2 dead children on my website. This photo has been put up on pinterest; the caption on the photo implies that these are the bodies of children killed by the Germans in World War II.

              I have this photo on my website, but it is a photo of dead German children, not a photo of Jewish children killed in the Holocaust. The caption that I put on the photo is “German children killed by Soviet soldiers in the Nemmersdorf massacre”

              Comment by furtherglory — April 23, 2016 @ 1:50 pm

              • If you do see dead children in pictures anywhere there’s a good chance that there are German kids and not children of Jewish descent. The jewish kids taken care of pretty well, where as the Germans were outside of the protective camps got hit pretty hard so I’m sure there’s plenty of pictures of these innocent children somewhere dead but you don’t see them brought up anywhere because they don’t want you to know about them.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 1:54 pm

                • My whole point is this. I never gave any thought to the holo. There was a war going on. Combatants and non combatants die in a war. Jews got gassed. Bad scene,but that’s life. Then I found this site. All the BS the historians have been feeding us,ain’t adding up. I said it once,I’ve said it a thousand times. I’m just trying to figure out what’s going on with this shit. I used to think greed was just a way of stereotyping Jews . Damned if it ain’t the truth. I always get pissed because the Mayans and Montagnards never get any airtime when it came to their genocide. Both of those are very personal with me,but the Jews want the limelight all to themselves. I look at it this way. F–k the military courts. They even screw our own people over (McVey,Calley). Use a civilian court. Go on there and say,”okay. These people murdered all these kids”. Okay,where are the bodies? No bodies . Okay . Do you got pictures? No.” What would happen? Judge would toss the case. Yet they want us to believe all these kids died,without the proof. In a court of law,the accused don’t have to do shit. It’s all on the person making the accusations. I fail to see how they could make a case. I’m waiting for them (the Jews and their pep club) to come up with absolute proof,that these kids were murdered. Truth be known they probably had the kids in some kind of school while they were in lockdown. The pictures I see of all the Jew kids when the allies rolled up to the prisons,they look to be in damn good shape to me. I don’t think these kids would be to quick to want their photo taken if they were abused as bad as everyone says they were . They’d probably be skidish around any adults. However their hams for the camera. Smiles on their pudgy little faces. They don’t look abused to me.

                  Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 2:30 pm

              • I’m trying to make a point that I don’t like seeing pics of the kids,because people on here that support the holo,might think I get off on seeing that kinda shit. The whole point I was trying to make there was this. There’s pictures out the wazoo of males that are dead,but where are the kids ? They got rid of them the minute they got of the train. Photographers were at lunch? My whole point is the shit don’t wash. All these kids are dead,but nobody has proof to back their ass up ? Why is it when people on here answer a comment,they always say,”such and such wrote”? My memory ain’t that bad yet. Some shit I can’t remember. Some I don’t want to remember. I’m just asking because if people are responding to my comment,I can always go back to what I wrote if I’m not sure what their talking about.

                Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 2:06 pm

                • Tim the only thing that I have an issue with is….You say “all these kids are dead”…. what kids?
                  That is the question that I have. Can ANYONE show me a picture of kids killed in “the Holocaust”
                  You better have your CSI forensic degree with you when you comment.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — April 23, 2016 @ 2:50 pm

                • Exactly. What kids ? That’s why I always bring up the issue about some kind of physical evidence. Like I said,the pics I’ve seen of all the kids,they seem to look happy and well fed to me. I’m the one asking for proof,from the people that talk about all these dead kids. I don’t want to see pictures of dead kids out of morbid curiosity. I want to see the pics,so people can prove,they back what they say. Like pop would always tell me ,”don’t write a check with your mouth,that your ass can’t cash”. So I want these people to cash the checks they’ve written. People are quick to believe it,becsuse were talking about kids. I’ve even heard historical accounts where one nation of American Indians would defeat another in battle. All the adults are dead. They didn’t kill the children. They took them into their nation and into their individual klan and raised them as their own. I’d be willing to accept that’s what happened to all these kids that just magically disappeared. They were taken in and raised by German families. That makes perfect sense to me. I mean the Krauts didn’t have problem with the Jews in the beginning,right ? They wanted them to blend into the German way of life,or so I’ve been told. So why not take the next generation and raise them up as Germans . I think it’s all come down to the snot nosed,”I don’t give a shit about anyone but myself” attitude the Jews have mastered. I don’t like our current CIC. However he hates Israel . That’s the common ground I share with him. I saw a person one time with a tshirt on that said,”don’t worry America . We got your back” it was the attitude of Israel . Right hand to God,that’s what the shirt said. Really ? Why the f–k are we losing so many of our people in that region,if they “got our back”? There’s some old snot nosed prick that’s a bigwig in the Israeli government . This prick had the nerve to say ,”we’re doing a shit job over there”( that’s not verbatim,but close enough). WTF! What the hell do they know about fighting? My bad. I forgot. They had their little jag off 6 day war. Holy shit! We were in an engagement longer than that,when I was up at An Loc. That was just a province. So I take their “real attitude” combine it with what I’m finding out on this site and their shit just don’t hold water. Like I said,I believed all the shit I read before I found this site. Did the Jews get a shitty stick in the war ? Yeah,but I’m not gonna label the “gas house” as to how it happened. Maybe some did get gassed. After reading an article on here,im more willing to accuse the Krauts of not being prepared to handle that many people,because of the question of whether everything was sanitary or not. A lot of folks died of typhus j read. Accuse them of not being prepared for that. Just don’t say they gassed a bunch of kids ( or anybody for that matter) if you don’t have conclusive evidence. The holo laws are the ones that really get me. There’s only one reason why people would think up bizzare shit like that. If too many people question the shit,the truth might actually come out. There’s no other possible reason for those laws. Come up with the laws so the Jews don’t get their feelings hurt? Welcome to the world. Nobody is loved.

                  Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 3:51 pm

                • You wrote: “Krauts didn’t have problem with the Jews in the beginning,right ? They wanted them to blend into the German way of life,or so I’ve been told. So why not take the next generation and raise them up as Germans”

                  I think that you are wrong about the krauts not having a problem with the Jews in the beginning. The German people have always been proud of their heritage and they didn’t mix with other ethnic groups. My German father was kicked out of his family when he married an Irish woman. Seventy years ago, the German people considered the Jews to be a completely different species, and they did not mix with them.

                  Comment by furtherglory — April 24, 2016 @ 5:29 am

                • I thought you said if they were to assimilate into the German culture,they’d be okay with everything. I’m going off what you wrote. You said Wagner didn’t want their shit music around,because it was too depressing. If they would’ve been upbeat,he wouldn’t have had no problem with Jew composers. I draw a better part of my conclusions,from right here. I get both sides of the story. I can figure out which stories are being truthful by way of logic and common sense and I get my conclusion. At times both sides present shit that’s just too conflicting (the number of people killed is number one there ),that I just say f–k it and go down the road to the next one. I don’t really have too much time to cross reference shit from outside sources. Since both sides are present here and you present articles from outside sources for reference,I feel I can get some pretty close answers. Neither side is right a 100 % of the time. So I make do with what I have here. It’s a pretty good place to source material. I don’t think the liberal ass teachers would go with this site,but that’s okay. Their all brain washed,candyass liberals. Go an hour northwest of my town here . Yeah. Austin,Texas. Liberal crybabies of the world. Lt. Col. Travis and Gen. Houston are rolling in their graves over the city of Austin right now. Travis is probably thinkin, why did we fight Mexico over Texas . They’re taking the state back now anyway.

                  Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 9:02 am

                • You wrote: “I thought you said if they [the Jews] were to assimilate into the German culture,they’d be okay with everything.”

                  No, the German people, in Nazi Germany, did not want to mix with non-Germans, and certainly not with Jews, whom they considered to be physically inferior, having many hereditary diseases.

                  Comment by furtherglory — April 24, 2016 @ 9:13 am

                • Then why did people talk about the assimilating? I read it on here somewhere. It’s kinda like the saying we had in the south. Up north they don’t care how big the blacks get,just so long as they don’t get to close. Down south they don’t care how close blacks get,just so long as they don’t get to big. In other words as long as they remember their position in the food chain. I thought it was something like that.

                  Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 9:22 am

                • Is there any kind of “surface” evidence that would happen to a human body that has died of gas,when juxtaposed with a body that’s died from typhus? i ask because I read an article on here that said,the bodies they did a postmortem exam on,all died from typhus. So I was wondering if there’s any physical difference in the outward appearance of the bodies.

                  Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 4:27 pm

                • There’s no certainly no photographic proof of children – Jewish or otherwise – deliberately being killed by the Germans. And that’s because it simply didn’t happen. The bulk of the Jewish child population survived the war, one way or another, and that’s why we have so many child survivors still with us today who provide us with their endlessly fascinating stories of “holocaust survival”.

                  I cannot remember either, any photo images of females being massacred by German troops. There are certainly some images of naked Jewish females lined up to be shot, or lying dead in ditches. But these unfortunate victims are reprisals carried out by the Ukrainians, Lithuanians and Latvians against their local Jewish population because they collaborated far too enthusiastically with the savage behaviour of the Soviet Bolshevik Jews who carried out a reign of terror in their territories during 1940 and early 1941.

                  Comment by Talbot — April 23, 2016 @ 3:14 pm

                • Then how did this father save his kid from being gassed multiple times. I guess he was “super Jew”. He saved every kid. That’s why I said this shit would never hold up in a “real” court of law. Like I said,judge would ask for evidence . It wouldn’t be produced. He’d say,”case dismissed”. Most people would probably read it and think,”this is a Hallmark card moment”. Happy Fathers Day to the best dad in the world. He saved me from those mean ol Germans that were gonna gas my ass. Whatever. Is there even a picture of this kid? The story is worth writing down,so I figure someone has to have a picture of the lil tyke somewhere. Maybe we’ll just put this shit in with Aesops fables

                  Comment by Tim — April 23, 2016 @ 4:04 pm

        • How useful would pics be anyway? Photo forgery is as old as photography itself. Most people fall too easily for such gross tricks. The Soviets were renowned for their numerous photo forgeries. Very naive to believe they wouldn’t have used a powerful weapon such as their ‘editing’ talents for graphic atrocity propaganda purposes during the most titanic war the world has ever seen. The story of those German soldiers allegedly found with incriminating photos in their pockets sounds like a fairy tale for kids.


          *

          Believe in fairies? No? So use your brain next time you’ll see pics of ‘nazi atrocities’ or of anything else. I could easily manufacture pics of people shot by Donald Duck and Mickey House more persuasive than the pics posted by Jeff some time ago.

          Perhaps some fairy dust could help people use their brain more often…😉

          * (Cottingley Fairies, famous graphic hoax of 1917)

          Comment by hermie — April 23, 2016 @ 7:03 pm

          • The camera never lies. Why should it. There’s a lot of folks out there who will lie for it. Yeah,I’ve seen the picture of the Cottingley fairies before. Saw the movie based on that too. The fairies even made it into the hoax museum. Yeah I know they fake a lot of pics to make their case. What’s so different about faking photos of gassed kids? FG had a photo of gypsy kids on here o think someone faked. The gypsy kids were said to have had “Noma”. Noma effects the mouth,skeleton structure of the mouth and could spread to the genital region. In the picture all those kids look like their mouths are in fine condition. I don’t know what is wrong with the skin on their bodies,but it sure as hell ain’t Noma. Noma was present in European countries,first appearing in 15th and 16th century. By the mid 18th century,it was pretty much on the way out the door. 20th and 21st century,it’s pretty much confined to the continent of Africa. So clearly whoever the person was that released that photo of the gypsy kids,may not have faked the photo,they just mentioned misleading facts about the photo. Like I said,their mouths look disease free to me. Hey they probably would fake pics of dead Jew kids. They fake a better part of the other ones. So why not go for broke. Throw some dead kids in there . What have they got to lose. Does it go against their morals? Fake pictures of dead gassed adults,but the kids are off limits? My point is,why stop there. Let’s go all the way.

            Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 7:25 am

            • You wrote: “The camera never lies. Why should it. There’s a lot of folks out there who will lie for it.”

              I wrote about the misuse of Holocaust photos on this blog post:
              https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/beware-of-illustrating-news-articles-with-photos-that-promote-holocaust-denial/

              Comment by furtherglory — April 24, 2016 @ 8:57 am

              • That’s why I’m trying to figure out why they don’t have doctored photos of dead children. Even the pic of the little boy with his hands up. That’s a “abused” photo. The soldier has his MP40 pointed at the kid? If that’s the case,that’s one soldier that clearly needs his eyes checked,because his gun is pointing at the ground. He’s not even looking at the kid. Truth be known,the photographer probably told the kid to reach for the sky. Why doesn’t anyone else have their hands up? The person that tried to use that photo to make the Kraut soldier look like an abusive asshole,shot himself in the foot on that one. He missed a ton of shit that would say the photo isn’t about that at all. Like I said. I’d love to see the same photo,but at a different angle. That’s the shit that’s makes me question the validity of some of this shit. Not only that,but if the kids that damned famous,why hasn’t anyone tried to get history. The truthful history. Not the crap the establishment would want us to eat. We know of the soldier,right? I think you wrote about the man. Same with the gypsy kids. Person that took their photo and said they had Noma,didn’t do their homework . Not one of those kids had anything wrong with their mouth area. That’s what Noma is. Might spread to the genital area,but it’s gonna start with the face

                Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 9:18 am

              • That was the first time I saw the pic . FG said it was Noma . Noma is pretty much restricted to the continent of Africa . Once again the Jews are taking a subject that is “very real”,for these children in Africa and trying to use it to their benefit . To be truthful,that picture just looked like it had bad lighting when it was taken and the years have worn the pic down. You probably did the same thing I did when I heard “Noma ” . Looked it up. Neither have any need to know anything about it. I think that’s what the Jews count on. People will eat the shit they try to shovel down their throat. So they think a disease that has pretty much isolated itself to certain region of the planet. It was too widespread in the 18th and 19th century. They couldn’t have pulled the shit back then

                Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 11:41 am

                • As I have a biology degree, I had already heard the word ‘Noma’ before. But I did a quick Google search to check if my memories were correct. My knowledge in biology also made me suspicious the Holo-artefacts such as the ones displayed at Buchenwald. All universities have similar collections. Scary for laypeople. Unimpressive for professionals acquainted with biological collections. I suppose the same is true for you and your career as a soldier made you wary about propaganda, etc. You need more than a few bodies carefully piled and photographed by army propagandists to be impressed and unable to think lucidly, I guess.

                  Comment by hermie — April 24, 2016 @ 8:18 pm

                • And like I said,that was the first I heard of it. If I never found this site,I would’ve fallen in line with the explanation of the photo . Now since I’ve discovered a lot of the holo photos are manipulated to serve the holo story, I don’t take the explanation of the holo photos to be the gospel. That’s why I’m always harping about the “little boy with his hands in the air,while the Kraut soldier has him MP40 pointed at him “. Unless that kid was about two inches tall,then that German soldier was not pointing his gun at him. His gun was pointing at the ground. He head was not really looking at the kid. The soldier looked like he was thinking about having a couple beers at the local saloon at the end of the day. He may have been thinking,”I wonder what the ol lady is gonna cook for dinner tonight”. He looked like he was thinking about anything,but that kid. That picture of the gypsy kids,looked like it was the result of poor lighting and wear and tear on the photo through out the years . Anything,but the kids being diseased. I can say the Jews and the shake and bake we had,that commanded our platoon,have one thing in common,they both love their body counts. Our Lt. would inflate the hell out of our body counts. The Jews are inflating the hell out of their body counts. Before I enlisted and went to Nam, I’d try to pick fights with the protesters. They were chicken shit candy asses in my book. Far as I was concerned,they were just afraid they could possibly end up dead. However when I was in country,I realized they may have had some validity to the shit they were protesting. It was looking like they knew of the lies that the American public were being fed ,by our elected officials. Same thing with this. I used to think people that questioned the holo were just Jew haters. After I started reading the articles on here,I realized the folks on here,hate the lies that are trying to be mixed in with all the other holo stories. The people who promote the holo,are just like the military commanders we had during our Nam era . Both groups like to play us falsely in the hopes everyone buys the BS.

                  Comment by Tim — April 24, 2016 @ 9:30 pm

                • You wrote: “If I never found this site,I would’ve fallen in line with the explanation of the photo . Now since I’ve discovered a lot of the holo photos are manipulated to serve the holo story, I don’t take the explanation of the holo photos to be the gospel.”

                  I have written about the little boy with his hands up several times:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/controversial-photo-from-warsaw-ghetto/

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/photo-of-the-little-boy-with-his-hands-up-the-rest-of-the-story/

                  Comment by furtherglory — April 25, 2016 @ 6:14 am

                • Regarding Holocaust photos, today I looked at the Facebook page for the Holocaust. They are using a photo taken at the Ebensee camp, which shows a group of men, who are not wearing trousers so that they can show off their skinny legs. I am always complaining about something, and I have complained about the misuse of photos several times, including on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/01/15/you-cant-just-use-any-old-photo-to-illustrate-a-holocaust-news-story/

                  The Facebook Holocaust page will only accept comments that support the True Believer side of the story. It is not a place for discussion.

                  On my blog, I welcome all points of view and I enjoy the discussion that goes on here.

                  Comment by furtherglory — April 25, 2016 @ 6:49 am

                • I’ve mentioned that plenty of times here. I’ve always said both sides are welcome to bring something to the table. Sometimes I agree with what a denier says,other times I’ll agree with what a believer says. Either way I’m given both sides to the story and I draw my own conclusion. If this was a “commercial “site,I’d only be given one side of the story. Like the Jew museum in Houston . They only give one side of the story. I wanted to see how the folks at the museum would respond to a person who’s open minded. I started emailing the with questions and I let them think I was buying into the whole thing. They were happy to converse with me by way of email. Then I dropped a question on them that would contradict their version of shit. I can’t recall what my question was. There was only one logical answer to my question. I’ve never heard back from the folks at the Jew museum. I’m pretty sure they knew there was no way they could put a spin on my question. People that visit the museum are going to be given facts that are based on conjecture . So they give all the museums patrons,”their “version of the events. Here anyone can speak their piece and not have to worry about another’s point of view being deemed as the only true one.

                  Comment by Tim — April 25, 2016 @ 7:47 am


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