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April 25, 2016

More misuse of the famous Ebensee photo

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 8:32 am
People passing by a famous photo taken at Ebensee

People passing a window which shows a famous Holocaust photo

The photo above was used to illustrate a news article which you can read in full at http://www.post-gazette.com/local/region/2016/04/25/Holocaust-project-focuses-on-what-Americans-knew-and-when/stories/201604220173

I have this same photo on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Mauthausen/KZMauthausen/Subcamps/Ebensee01.html

Photo of Holocaust survivors at Ebensee

Holocaust survivors at Ebensee sub-camp

Note that the photo, as shown on my website, is much wider; it shows more of the prisoners that were moved from the Mauthausen main camp to the Ebensee sub-camp where they could be taken care of.

According to Holocaust author Martin Gilbert, the last death marches of the World War Ii, began on May 1, 1945 as the American Army approached; prisoners from the main camp at Mauthausen, and the sub-camps at Gusen and St. Valentin, were marched to Gunskirchen and Ebensee. Hundreds of them died from exhaustion, or were shot because they couldn’t keep up, or as they attempted to escape. When American troops in the 80th Infantry Division arrived on May 4, 1945, there were around 60,000 prisoners from 25 different countries at Ebensee.

The entrance gate into the Ebenseee camp

The entrance gate into Ebenseee

The photograph above was taken on May 6, 1945, after Ebensee, a sub-camp of the Mauthausen Concentration Camp, was liberated by soldiers in the 80th Division of the US Third Army on May 4th and 5th.

The banner, written in French, reads “The French prisoners Salute the Allies.” It was erected by the anti-Nazi resistance fighters who were imprisoned here after being captured and accused of doing acts of sabotage during the Nazi occupation of France.

The prisoners at Ebensee worked in underground factories which manufactured Messerschmitt airplanes. German engineers and civilians also worked in these factories. The site was chosen because there were natural caves which could be enlarged into tunnels so that the munitions factories could be protected from Allied bombing raids.

According to Martin Gilbert, the author of a book entitled “Holocaust,” Ebensee was an “end destination” for Jewish prisoners who were evacuated from camps farther east as the Soviet Army advanced toward Germany. In the last months of the war, the Ebensee camp was seriously over-crowded with these exhausted prisoners, many of whom had just arrived in the weeks prior to the liberation.

Gilbert wrote the following regarding the evacuations and the death marches:

Begin quote

Jews who had already survived the “selections” in Birkenau, and work as slave laborers in factories, had now to survive the death marches. Throughout February and March [1945] columns of men, and crowded cattle trucks, converged on the long-existing concentration camps, now given a new task. These camps had been transformed into holding camps for the remnant of a destroyed people, men and women whose labor was still of some last-minute utility for a dying Reich, or whose emaciated bodies were to be left to languish in agony in one final camp.

End quote

According to Gilbert’s book, a train loaded with 2,059 Jews arrived at Ebensee on March 3, 1945. They had survived the death camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau and had first been sent to the Gross Rosen concentration camp, then on to Ebensee. Forty-nine of the Jewish prisoners died on the train, and on their first day in the camp, 182 died during the disinfection procedure.

New arrivals had to be disinfected to kill the body lice which spreads typhus. There was a typhus epidemic, in Mauthausen and the sub-camps and, according to Martin Gilbert, 30,000 prisoners had died in these camps in the last four months of the war.

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  1. In reading the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s article about the USHMM project to find out what American knew about the Holocaust while it was happening I noted that one person quoted in the article reported they knew about it and attended protest rallies. These rallies were staged by “The Bergson Boys,” a Irugn cell of militant revisionist Zionists* headquartered in New York and Wash DC led by Peter Bergson (aka Hillel Kook). Oscar winning Hollywood screenwriter Ben Hecht was a member of this group which also planted German atrocity propaganda in the US press.

    “Having energized politicians, gangsters, Hollywood moguls, and ultra- Orthodox rabbis, the handful of young men taught other Zionist and American- Jewish groups not only how the media was the message but how it could and should be used.”
    http://www.syracuseuniversitypress.syr.edu/fall-2005-catalog/bergson-boys.html

    *Revisionist Zionists were the followers of Ze’ev Jabotinsky, the most militant of the pioneer Zionists. He was inspired by Mussolini’s fascists and trained cadres in Italy to eventually take over Palestine by force of arms.

    Comment by who dares wings — April 26, 2016 @ 7:55 am

    • Jabotinsky was a publicist. He knew ‘the powerful influence of moral pressure’ (i.e. public opinion) on governments and he knew how to use it for the fulfillment of his goals. The Holohoax provided Zionism with ‘moral pressure’ strong enough to have the British ‘MacDonald White Paper’ (planning the final liquidation of Zionism for 1949 at the latest) finally cancelled before its dreaded deadline (March 31, 1949).

      Jabotinsky was not only at war against the British government, the Arab inhabitants of Palestine and the anti-Zionist Assimilationist Jews like the other Zionists of that time. He was also at war against the moderate Zionists on the verge of establishing a Jewish state he regarded as tiny and ridiculous. Even the all of Palestine was not enough for him. He wanted a Jewish state in the whole British mandate (Palestine + Transjordan) populated by millions of Jews (to be transferred from Central and Eastern Europe within a quite short period of time). Jabotinsky and his henchmen had very good reasons to push as hard as possible for the fulfillment of their goals and victory over their numerous foes.

      Comment by hermie — April 26, 2016 @ 8:53 am

  2. After 27 years in the UK justice has been done for the 96 families whose relatives were crushed to death at Hillsborough football stadium. Crowds behave in an unpredictable manner when being herded through a small entrance into a confined space. Apparently 2000 Jews lined up in a regimented way to expect their death without protest according to such ” credible ” witnesses as Dario Gabbai.. Unbelievable.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36138337

    Comment by peter — April 26, 2016 @ 5:56 am

  3. furtherglory wrote: “The banner, written in French, reads “The French prisoners Salute the Allies.” ”

    For the sake of accuracy, the correct translation of this banner is “The French salute their Allies.” The French sentence for “The French prisoners salute the Allies” would be “Les prisonniers français saluent les Alliés.” The banner “The French salute their Allies” could have been intended to get a better treatment from the US soldiers. 5 years of German occupation of France and of active French collaboration had made the French membership in the Allied team quite unclear. So such a reminder was perhaps not completely useless after all.

    Comment by hermie — April 25, 2016 @ 8:27 pm

    • I looked this up, and here is what the Encyclopedia Britanica says:

      “In World War II the chief Allied powers were Great Britain, France (except during the German occupation, 1940–44), the Soviet Union (after its entry in June 1941), the United States (after its entry on December 8, 1941), and China.”

      The French prisoners at Ebensee had been captured as illegal combatants; they were not soldiers in the French Army; they were illegal resistance fighters. They were greeting THE Allies [Americans] who had liberated them. They were not greeting THEIR Allies, the French. I cannot read all the words on the banner, so I don’t know what the word, in question, is.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 26, 2016 @ 6:26 am

      • The full sentence on the banner is “Les Français saluent leurs Alliés.”

        ‘Leurs’ = their
        ‘Les’ = the

        Comment by hermie — April 26, 2016 @ 7:05 am

      • The French had one big pu–y for a leader during WW2. FDR and Churchill couldn’t stand him. He was far too in love with himself.

        Comment by Tim — April 26, 2016 @ 8:50 am

        • Tim wrote: “The French had one big pu–y for a leader during WW2. FDR and Churchill couldn’t stand him. He was far too in love with himself.”

          De Gaulle was not the leader of the French during WW2. He represented only himself and a handful of followers (a weird admixture of French Nationalists and Jews). The legitimate leader of the French people during WW2 was Pétain. The Allies only uncrowned De Gaulle as Monarch of France and Great Leader of the French People in order to make their own people deceitfully believe that France was on their side during that war, what was not true. During the war, Pétain was idolized by most French people for having avoided another senseless bloodbath on French soil. Almost no French citizen considered the Allied puppet named De Gaulle as their legitimate representative.

          By the way, FDR and Churchill probably disliked De Gaulle because, unlike themselves, he was fighting for the interests of the French people (at least, for what he thought to be the interests of the French people) and the greatness of France rather than for Jewish interests and the rebirth of Zion.

          Comment by hermie — April 27, 2016 @ 7:25 am

          • Bad choice of words on my part. The “free French and the provisional government”,had a pu–y for a leader. Then again my heros are General Houston and Col. Travis. They were there fighting the Mexicans . They knew it was their ass if Santa Anna’s army took them alive. What did DeGaulle do? He ran and hid like a little titty baby. That’s real leadership. They name an international airport after this fool. A lot of people looked to him as a leader back then. Okay. Where was he at when his people had their date with executioner,because they were spies? The military taught me,lead from the front,not the rear ( okay . Our leaders in Nam were 90 day wonders that tried to bring the textbook on the field of battle,but at least they were there trying to lead. We respected them for that). Are we sure DeGaulle wasn’t part Jew . I mean he did take advantage of the situation . He probably didn’t shed tear one,for the people that were dying for him. At the end of the war he had everyone and their cousin begging to suck his —-. The French are spineless,so I don’t expect they gonna have any real heros. They can take their Dom Perignon and shove it up their ass. I’ll stick with my Spaten and Franziskaner which are brewed in Munich

            Comment by Tim — April 27, 2016 @ 8:12 am

            • Tim wrote: “What did DeGaulle do? He ran and hid like a little titty baby.”

              And he paraded on tanks through French cities during the Allied capture of France in order to refine the Allied fable that almost everybody was on their side and that they were liberators rather than conquerors. A fairly substantial aid, wasn’t it?😉

              Tim wrote: “The French are spineless,so I don’t expect they gonna have any real heros.”

              This is unfair and untrue. Sometimes making peace requires more bravery than listening to the war drums. I have often heard from Anglo-Saxons the myth that French are spineless cowards. I guess that such a reputation is due to the French unwillingness to fight another world war on their soil for nebulous interests alien to theirs in 1940. Honestly, there is no pride in fighting a senseless war like WW2, especially when one is on the bad side like the United States during WW2. The Americans and the British shouldn’t boast about their WW2 ‘exploits.’ Killing tens of millions of people for spurious reasons is not a thing to be proud of, IMO…

              I don’t know if today’s French people prefer to be depicted as cowards or as what they are, i.e. the people that, together with England, sprinkled the soil of Europe with the most blood throughout history. In other words, perhaps they in fact prefer to be regarded as cowards rather than the most aggressive group of people in Europe. The Kings of France fought an incredible number of wars everywhere in Europe and beyond.

              Comment by hermie — April 27, 2016 @ 6:34 pm

              • If you want to get down to the proverbial,”brass tacks”,every war is senseless. My DI back at boot ran a quote by me. I accused him of being ,”part of the problem”,when it came to war. He gave me his usual response. A shot right to the ol bread basket. As I was laying on the ground trying to get my wind,he said he had a quote for me,from Otto Von Bismark. “Anyone who has ever looked into the glazed eyes,of a soldier dying on the field of battle,will think long and hard before starting a war”. He told me the military leaders of the world,should learn that one. That quote should also show,not all Krauts are evil . Not all of them would be (as Ozzy put it), sorcerers of deaths construction. I ran across a quote some years back from H. G. Wells. If we don’t end war,war will end us. Nam sure as hell changed my view of war. I’m fighting and I had an epiphany . Why am I fighting against a group of people that have fought everybody and their cousin? Damn near everyone has tried to flex on north Vietnam . It was always a tragic ending for the invaders. War is senseless,but they always happen. Riding on the tanks in the victory parade. He’s taking all the credit,while the real heros,are dead. I don’t care. He’s taking credit that he don’t deserve. Sun Tzu one said,the supreme art of war,is to subdue the enemy without fighting . Not a single nation has learned that yet. I don’t know. I was in Nam,so I probably look at war differently. Degaulle runs off and hides,while his people take the hits for him. The officers that lead us,were taught from textbooks. They knew very little about the real world. I’ll give them credit. They were right with us when shit hit the fan. DeGaulle wasn’t . He’s exiled somewhere in relative safety. I can’t get on board with someone,who thinks he saved his country,when he’s off elsewhere and not even in the fight. If WW2 was senseless,then WW1 went way past being senseless. The arch Duke and his wife just kinda lit the fuse. That ain’t much of an excuse,but it’s one. Dien Bein Phu. French got their ass kicked. One month three weeks,the french get out like a whipped dog. So they got their ass kicked. If they had any balls,they would’ve regrouped and hit north Vietnam . They wanna talk about being Billy Badass,they ain’t got much to back it up.

                Comment by Tim — April 27, 2016 @ 8:26 pm

                • I didn’t say every war is senseless. I’m not a sentimental pacifist. I said WW2 was a bad war fought for reasons very different than most people believe. WW2 was far from being senseless in a Jewish-Zionist perspective, as well as in a Soviet & American perspective. That’s why FDR and Churchill – both 1st-class puppets of Jewry and high-ranking Masons – worked so hard to make it start and last as long as possible. The Polish pretext for WW2 was as much BS as the Serbian and Belgian pretexts for WW1. The real reasons for those wars lied elsewhere…

                  Comment by hermie — April 28, 2016 @ 8:06 am

                • To me war is senseless. Old men get us into wars and young men fight them. Once LBJs stock in Brown&Root went through the ceiling,he pulled outta the game . He was a major shareholder. B&R had the main contract for construction in South Vietnam. The rich made more money,while us poor slobs went to fight. I still maintain its senseless. Look at that little asshole in NK. He’s just trying to start some shit. Flipping his finger at the entire world,but that’s just me . I saw enough to last me more than one lifetime

                  Comment by Tim — April 28, 2016 @ 8:39 am

  4. I asked a young friend (age 59) to read my blog post today and to comment on it. He said that he did not understand what I was trying to say. The point is that, in my humble opinion, the Jews complain too much about their treatment, by the Nazis, during World War II. What were the Nazis supposed to do? Leave the Jews free to roam Germany and sabotage the German effort to win the war?

    Comment by furtherglory — April 25, 2016 @ 11:39 am

    • FG…..Precisely……The Jews in the USA already declared war on Germany by the boycotting of all German goods so I guess that was supposed to leave a warm and fuzzy feeling for the Jews by the Germans. Of course I’m told the German Jews were not happy about the boycott because they had to deal with it because they did live there you know, it would all come down upon them and it did.
      Bottom line the Jews got out of it easy…they were put in work camps where they were protected from allied bombing they were fed three squares a day, it wasn’t Hotel Auschwitz, but a lot better than the regular Germans who had to dodge all the bombs coming down upon them by the Allies.
      People have been so brain washed over the last 75 years it’s hard to break them down. Takes a special kind of person to see the truth.
      Then when you want to get into conversation with these knuckleheads they walk away from you and call you a Nazi….
      Problem is they lack knowledge and thats why we are here…

      Jim Rizoli
      CCFIILE.COM
      IHR.ORG
      VHO.ORG

      Comment by jrizoli — April 25, 2016 @ 11:54 am

      • Jim Rizoli wrote: “The Jews in the USA already declared war on Germany by the boycotting of all German goods […] Of course I’m told the German Jews were not happy about the boycott because they had to deal with it because they did live there you know, it would all come down upon them and it did.”

        ZIONIST Jews declared war on Germany with a boycott. The US leaders of the anti-German boycott, Samuel Untermyer and Stephen Wise, were not any kind of Jewish leaders. They were top Zionist leaders. They did that because they wanted the Jews in Germany to be singled out and discriminated against within the Nationalist Socialist state. Their real intent was the irritation of the National Socialist regime and the predictable & understandable Nazi reaction against their own actions. When the German anti-Jewish retaliatory one-day boycott came on April 1, 1933, Zionist Jews immediately suggested the revival of the ancient yellow badge in Germany as a good thing and jubilantly proclaimed that assimilation was a failure (Assimilationism was one of the greatest foes of Zionism in those days) because of the recent events in Germany (i.e. the Nazi reaction against their own anti-German agitation).

        That’s true that German Jews were not happy with the Zionist anti-German boycott. Some representatives of Germany’s Jewry even called for the cancellation of anti-German rallies & boycott in America and Britain and labelled the stories justifying such rallies & boycott as ‘atrocity propaganda’ and ‘lies.’ Zionist anti-German agitation in America and Britain greatly worsened the lot of German Jews. No surprise because it was the exact aim of that agitation. No Jewish martyrs, no Zionism…

        Comment by hermie — April 25, 2016 @ 8:57 pm

    • FG, I agree with your young friend, I also could not make any sense of it. You seem unable to get to the point. Why didn’t you just write what you did in this comment? Cut to the chase! Simple, direct language is best. Ditch Martin Gilbert too, for god’s sake. That’s your problem, quoting from a jew like him. Churchill’s biographer!

      Love …

      Comment by Carolyn Yeager — April 25, 2016 @ 7:56 pm

  5. Enough said for the purposeful “extermination” of the prisoners in the camps….seems to me they were trying their best to keep everyone alive the best they could but the problems superseded their efforts.
    Like I said in past post it’s all about the the Jews and their so called suffering….just look at how many survived and that will tell you the REAL story.
    Thinks about how many survivors talked about how they were transferred to other camps should show the main purpose of the Jews being there in the first place was to use them for forced labor, but the Germans took in a lot that couldn’t work so the Germans had to take the good with the bad and it finally caught up to them because they couldn’t keep up with epidemics and sicknesses running around in the camps.
    But when it all went South for the Germans they were the bad guys…..

    Jim Rizoli
    CCFIILE.COM

    Comment by jrizoli — April 25, 2016 @ 10:04 am

  6. They died during a forced march. Where have I heard that? Oh yeah. The American Indians. Trail of Tears. It all started with the Choctaw and ended with the Cherokee . Yeah. Some died along the way from,exposure,disease and malnutrition . Out of all 17,000 that were relocated ,4,000 to 6,000 died. Oops. I forget. These were native Americans,not Jews . So their lives don’t mean shit when juxtaposed with the Jews .

    Comment by Tim — April 25, 2016 @ 8:55 am


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