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May 9, 2016

the family camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 7:25 am

The subject of the “family camp” came up in a recent comment on my blog.  Actually, the full name for this camp was “the Czech family camp.”

Here is what I know about “the Czech family camp”:

In 1944, the main camp road into Auschwitz-Birkeanau intersected a north-south road at the western end of the Birkenau camp; the north-south road led to the Central Sauna where those who were selected for labor took a shower before being assigned to their barracks.

Jews getting off a train at Birkenau

Jews getting off train at Birkenau

In the photo above, the tall chimneys of Krema II and Krema III can be seen in the background.

Hungarian Jews waiting for their turn in the gas chamber at Birkenau

Hungarian Jews waiting for their turn in a gas chamber at Auschwitz-Birkenau

A short distance beyond the Sauna were the fake shower rooms in Krema IV and Krema V, where those unfit for work were gassed.

The intersection of these two roads can no longer be seen today because the International Monument has been built in that location at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

In 1944, the main camp road at Birkenau went all the way to the western end of the camp and continued outside the camp. Today visitors must turn north at the ruins of Krema III to get to the north-south road to the Sauna and the ruins of Krema IV and Krema V.

In a 2006 interview with Don Moore, a writer with the Sun-Herald, Holocaust survivor William Schick told about how he narrowly escaped being gassed at Birkenau on two separate occasions.

Schick was a Czech Jew who had been first sent to the Theresienstadt ghetto, before being transferred to the Czech family camp at Birkenau. As a prisoner in the Czech family camp, Schick played in the soccer matches at Birkenau. The soccer field was located near the Krema III gas chamber.

Regarding the liquidation of the Czech family camp in section BIIb, the following quote is from Don Moore’s article in the Sun-Herald:

Begin quote

“They told everyone in Camp B2B we were going to be sent to Germany as slave laborers, but we had to clean up and shower first and we’d be issued new uniforms,” he said. “When we reached what the guards said were the ‘showers’ there was a commotion going on. I could speak a little German and I heard the guards say something was ‘kaput.'”

He learned later that the apparatus that filled the showers with poison gas was ‘kaput.’ The prisoners from B2B had escaped death. They were marched back to their barracks. Three days later they were marched back to the gas chambers to die.

“We were just about to go into the gas chambers once more and there was another commotion out front.

“A train with 10,000 Jews from Hungry had just arrived. They had no place to put them. We were sent back to our barracks once again. They marched all 10,000 Hungarian Jews into the three gas chambers at Auschwitz and killed them all in 24 hours.”

End quote

In the book written by Ruth Elias, entitled “Triumph of Hope,” which I read years ago, the following sequence of events in the liquidation of the Czech family camp is given:

On July 2, 1944, Dr. Josef Mengele made a selection in the Czech family camp. He selected 1,000 male prisoners whom he considered fit for work, and on July 7, they were transported out of Birkenau. Women who were considered fit for work, including Ruth Elias who was pregnant, were transferred from the Czech family camp to the women’s camp at Birkenau.

On July 11, 1944, the liquidation of the Czech family camp began when 3,000 prisoners were sent to the gas chamber. The next day, 4,000 more prisoners were sent to the gas chamber, after being selected by Dr. Mengele, and the family camp ceased to exist. On July 14, the women who had been selected for work, including Ruth Elias, were sent to Hamburg or to the Stutthof concentration camp near the city formerly known as Danzig.

Dr. Susan Cernyak-Spatz was 18 years old when she was sent from Czechoslovakia to the Birkenau camp in 1943 and tattooed with the number 34042 on her left arm. In a newspaper article in the Salisbury Post, Scott Jenkins reported on a talk that Cernyak-Spatz gave to sixth-graders at Corriher-Lipe Middle School in May 2000. She stressed to the Corriher-Lipe students that the Holocaust was not a single event, but an efficiently conceived and executed process that began “the minute Adolf Hitler came to power” as Germany’s dictator in 1933.

Elaine Geller is a famous Holocaust survivor who was sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau at the age of 4, after seeing her mother and grandparents shot right in front of her. Geller now gives frequent lectures about the Holocaust, telling about her experience.

Geller told an audience in Granite Hills, CA on March 4, 2009 that she never officially got any food while she was in the Birkenau camp, since she was a child and because of her age, she wasn’t counted at Auschwitz; Geller survived only because her aunt shared her food. She did what was necessary to survive, including stealing food, eating toothpaste and drinking her own urine.

Geller said that “two Nazi soldiers said her hair was too pretty for a Jewish girl, and they shaved her bald. When her aunt came back from work she saw Elaine and began to cry. For crying, the Nazis beat Geller’s aunt right in front of her, and then they hit Geller’s head with their fists so now she has calcified ears.”

Somehow Elaine Geller managed to survive at Auschwitz-Birkenau and was eventually sent to Bergen-Belsen where she was liberated by British soldiers in April 1945.

From all over Europe, Jews were brought by train to the death camp at Auschwitz-Birkenau, mostly in cattle cars. According to Olga Lengyel, a doctor who was a prisoner at Birkenau, the new arrivals went through a selection process during which 30 SS officers took turns selecting workers for the factories and sending those who were too young or too old to the gas chamber with a wave of the hand.

Woman who has been selected for the gas chamber struggles to escape

Woman who has been selected for the gas chamber struggles to escape at Auschwitz-Birkenau

To the left meant immediate death in the gas chamber; to the right meant a few months of slave labor, living in miserable conditions, and barely subsisting at a starvation level. The woman in the photo above tries to escape after being selected for the gas chamber because she is too old to work.

In her book entitled “Five Chimneys,” Lengyel wrote that Dr. Fritz Klein was the “Chief Selector.” She described Dr. Klein as “different from the other S.S. He never shouted and had rather nice manners.”

Dr. Fritz Klein had arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau on December 15, 1943; he had first served as a camp doctor in the women’s camp in Birkenau. Later, Dr. Klein worked as a camp doctor in the Gypsy camp at Birkenau.

In December 1944, Dr. Klein was transferred to Neuengamme concentration camp; he was sent to the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in January 1945, where he was arrested by the British in April 1945.

Dr. Fritz Klein was put on trial by the British after the war, charged with committing war crimes at both Birkenau and Bergen-Belsen; he was sentenced to death and hanged on December 13, 1945.

Two women who have been sent to shower

Two women who have been sent to the shower room (gas chamber) at Auschwitz-Birkenau

 

203 Comments »

  1. Some answers to Jeff K’s mantra “Where did they go?”

    British General Fredrick Morgan was in charge overseeing the DP camps and the the program of evicting German survivors of the Allied carpet bombing that reduced 80% of the country’s cities to rubble from their apartments and homes and replacing them with Jewish refugees waiting to emigrate to various places with the assistance The Joint Distribution Comittee, The American Jewish Comittee, The World Jewish Congress, The War Refugee Board, The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society and The Emergency Rescue Comittee ad infiniutm. Morgan discovered Jews who had been moved behind the Urals when Hitler and Stalin carved up Poland were trickling back into Germany and passing themselves off as Holocaust survivors. When he went to the press with this information he was relieved of his command at the behest of the mischling mayor of New York City Fiorello LaGuardia. Before V.E. Day boat loads of Jews had been leaving Constanta, Romania sailing under false flags, to false destinations with passengers provided with forged travel documents by the Mossad. The Mossad was first organized as a clandestine Zionist travel agency. The sinking of the Struma, torpedoed off Turkey by a Soviet submarine, was first blamed on Germans like the Katyn forrest massacre. The tired old sob story about the St. Louis, with it cargo of Jewish refugees, turned back at Havana harbor, is told and retold to obscure the fact many other ships successfully unloaded their cargoes of Jews there. BTW it’s always assumed the passengers of the St. Louis met certain death upon their return to Germany. No proof has been provided for this that I am aware of.

    1. http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.be/2011/10/1946-british-general-alleges-world.html?zx=1c7514f842e89337

    2.http://revblog.codoh.com/?s=Demographics&x=9&y=13

    3. http://www.counter-currents.com/2011/03/the-truth-about-nazi-zionist-relations/

    Comment by who dares wings — May 15, 2016 @ 11:06 am

    • Thank you. I must try to write a subscript to the story about the Dutch Jews

      Comment by Dr Kim — May 15, 2016 @ 2:41 pm

    • “Morgan discovered Jews who had been moved behind the Urals when Hitler and Stalin carved up Poland were trickling back into Germany and passing themselves off as Holocaust survivors.”

      The “carving up” you speak of occurred before the German invasion of the Soviet Union.
      What concerns me is the fate of the “Action Reinhard” Jews, the approximately 1.5 million Jews “transited” through the Action Reinhard camps and Chelmno between December 1941-Fall of 1943.

      Comment by Jeff K. — May 17, 2016 @ 10:21 am

  2. Jeff K writes:

    “Forensic investigations done by the Poles and Soviets found cyanide in hair samples and equipment from the gas chambers.
    Investigations done by the Poles in 1990 and 1994 found cyanide residue in the gas chambers.”

    Please cite the names of the Soviet and Polish investigative reports and/or the source of your information about them. Thanks.

    Comment by who dares wings — May 15, 2016 @ 7:37 am

  3. What happened to Wolf?

    Comment by Anonymous — May 12, 2016 @ 6:10 pm

  4. Jeff K. and I should have a radio debate. Years ago, Deanna Spingola hosted two radio debates between myself and Roberto Muehlenkamp–both of which Muehlenkamp lost decisively because he was simply full of it just as Jeff K. is full-of-it also See my website for audio links to those debates. I have no idea as to whether Spingola would do it again–but she might. She was so upset with me because I had exposed the stupidity of Robert Faurisson’s and Fred Leuchter’s false technical arguments.

    So, what do you say, Jeff K.–whoever you really are? Will you debate me? Perhaps Jim Rizzoli will host such a debate on video?

    This forum is too confusing visually for an endless discussion on this subject. It is becoming almost impossible for me to even find my own posts–or the responses.

    BTW, the “faith” that Jeff K. has that he is “ingesting the body of Christ” or “drinking Jesus’s blood” is INSANE just as his belief in the holocaust hoax is also INSANE. He really is a depraved nutcase and should be exposed. An open and recorded debate will be so helpful.

    Friedrich Paul Berg
    Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
    Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
    There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
    http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
    The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

    Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 12, 2016 @ 8:58 am

    • “Jeff K. and I should have a radio debate.”

      Why? So you can slice and dice my answers and put them on your website? Be real….one of things I used to do in school was editing both audio and video files. I know how easy it is distort both.

      “Years ago, Deanna Spingola hosted two radio debates between myself and Roberto Muehlenkamp–both of which Muehlenkamp lost decisively because he was simply full of it just as Jeff K.”

      Muhlenkamp thinks you are nuts. I agree. Bitten any more cops lately?

      “is full-of-it also See my website for audio links to those debates. I have no idea as to whether Spingola would do it again–but she might. She was so upset with me because I had exposed the stupidity of Robert Faurisson’s and Fred Leuchter’s false technical arguments.”

      It’s cute how well you play with others. I once saw a fellow denier of yours describe your temper tantrums as “Bergian.”

      “So, what do you say, Jeff K.–whoever you really are? Will you debate me? Perhaps Jim Rizzoli will host such a debate on video?”

      I don’t think so. Oddly, I do trust Jim but I hardly trust you.

      “This forum is too confusing visually for an endless discussion on this subject. It is becoming almost impossible for me to even find my own posts–or the responses.”

      That’s your problem. I’m perfectly content to continue in this fashion. This is safer for the both us, neither one of us can accuse each other of saying something that we didn’t….the record is right here.

      “BTW, the “faith” that Jeff K. has that he is “ingesting the body of Christ” or “drinking Jesus’s blood” is INSANE just as his belief in the holocaust hoax is also INSANE.”

      Not any more, I’m what’s known as a lapsed Catholic.
      You have trouble with abstract ideas, don’t you?

      “He really is a depraved nutcase and should be exposed. An open and recorded debate will be so helpful.”

      Well, my wife does think I am nuts for arguing with crazy people on-line. I prefer to think of it as an entertaining way to pass the time.

      Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 11:00 am

      • No stand up debates it seems, man-to-man, between me and cowardly Jeff K. Jeff K. prefers to hide and snipe from the shadows–something he learned, no doubt, from the kikes. I still think he is Jewish, btw–hook nose, beady eyes, hunch back and sweaty hands would probably show themselves in a video debate. No wonder the Germans put such creatures into concentration camps. That is where they belong.

        Here’s a link to a video interview I did recently with Jim Rizoli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apvg99bVCro

        Friedrich Paul Berg
        Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
        Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
        There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
        http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
        The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

        Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 12, 2016 @ 2:09 pm

        • “No stand up debates it seems, man-to-man, between me and cowardly Jeff K.”

          If I was considering it I now have no doubts that I made the right decision.

          “Jeff K. prefers to hide and snipe from the shadows–something he learned, no doubt, from the kikes.”

          Again, you are not trustworthy enough that I want to actually discuss anything with you.

          “I still think he is Jewish, btw–hook nose, beady eyes, hunch back and sweaty hands would probably show themselves in a video debate. No wonder the Germans put such creatures into concentration camps. That is where they belong.”

          OMFG.

          You know, if that’s what the allies were fighting during the war I’m glad they wiped it off the face of the earth.
          If that is what Hitler thought of Jews then I’m glad he died cowering in a bunker with his world in flames around him.
          You are, without a doubt, one of the most vile humans, no, wait, creatures I’ve ever had the misfortune to read, see or hear from.
          I wouldn’t put my face on video with you in a million years.
          I think the thing you fear is actually a reflection of your miserable squirmy soul.

          Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 2:29 pm

          • Jeff K. is getting carried away with himself, National Socialism has NOT been wiped off the face of the earth–at all! It is actually alive and thriving in many of the countries of the world including the US and Israel–because it works, and because the alternatives such as communism do not work at all.

            As far as my being “without a doubt, one of the most vile humans, no, wait, creatures… ever.” I was about to say the same about Jeff K. (“K” for Kosher, perhaps?) If Jeff K., ever wants to see what evil really looks like, he can do that so easily by looking into any mirror. Depraved idiots and cowards like Jeff K. actually did commit deliberate mass murder of millions of innocent people during WW2, and since then, by literally r-o-a-s-t-i-n-g people to death, as many as they possibly could–women, children, and babies included. If the Nazis had ever “gassed” people to death, that would have been humane by comparison. Jeff K, and his ilk should pray there is no God!

            Here’s the link again to the video interview I did recently with Jim Rizoli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apvg99bVCro

            Friedrich Paul Berg
            Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
            Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
            There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
            http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
            The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

            Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 12, 2016 @ 3:10 pm

    • I tried to reply earlier, not showing up. I’ll try again.

      “Jeff K. and I should have a radio debate. ”

      Yeah, I don’t think so, crazy train. I don’t need my words chopped up and spit out on your insane website to further your agenda.

      “Years ago, Deanna Spingola hosted two radio debates between myself and Roberto Muehlenkamp–both of which Muehlenkamp lost decisively because he was simply full of it just as Jeff K. is full-of-it also See my website for audio links to those debates.”

      Muhlenkamp thinks you are crazy. Since you once bit a cop I believe him.

      “I have no idea as to whether Spingola would do it again–but she might. She was so upset with me because I had exposed the stupidity of Robert Faurisson’s and Fred Leuchter’s false technical arguments.”

      I thought you deniers were one big happy, dysfunctional family. It’s funny how you persist in alienating the people who would normally back you.

      “So, what do you say, Jeff K.–whoever you really are?”

      I am exactly who I say I am.

      “Will you debate me? Perhaps Jim Rizzoli will host such a debate on video?”

      While I trust Jim…..in an odd way I find him trustworthy….I have no reason to believe you.

      “This forum is too confusing visually for an endless discussion on this subject. It is becoming almost impossible for me to even find my own posts–or the responses.”

      Not my problem. Down at the bottom where you post your reply you can get an e-mail alert when someone replies to you. I prefer this forum, this is safer for you and me. So, feel free to continue.

      “BTW, the “faith” that Jeff K. has that he is “ingesting the body of Christ” or “drinking Jesus’s blood” is INSANE just as his belief in the holocaust hoax is also INSANE.”

      You have difficulty understanding abstract concepts, don’t you?

      “He really is a depraved nutcase and should be exposed.”

      Well, my wife does think I’m crazy for arguing with nut cases on-line. I think it’s a harmless way to pass the time.

      “An open and recorded debate will be so helpful.”

      This is an open forum. Continue as you like but there’s not a chance in hell I’m going to misuse my spoken word.

      Oh, and Berg? You want to convince me Holocaust denial is not full of crap?
      Figure out where the Jews went if they were “deported.”

      Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 1:17 pm

      • You wrote: “I tried to reply earlier, not showing up. I’ll try again.”

        For some reason some of your comments are going into the spam folder instead of going up on my blog. I have to pull them out of the spam folder and put them in the comments.

        Comment by furtherglory — May 12, 2016 @ 1:37 pm

        • Thank you.

          Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 1:46 pm

        • Wasn’t Wolfman having the same problem with his comments? You said it hit the spam folder,cause he was repeating himself in his comments

          Comment by Tim — May 13, 2016 @ 2:51 pm

          • You wrote: “Wasn’t Wolfman having the same problem with his comments?”

            Do you mean Wolf Murmelstein? Wolf wasn’t repeating himself. He was putting up the exact same comment sometimes. Wolf is around the same age as I am. When you get to that age, you can’t remember anything from one minute to the next.

            Comment by furtherglory — May 14, 2016 @ 6:07 am

    • .Neglected in the discussions here is the fact that the pictures come originally from: “The Auschwitz Album.” –links vary. My own essay about that is: http://www.nazigassings.com/StrollingtotheGasChambers.html

      The album pictures refute Jeff K.’s endless lies and racist filth about how Jews had, supposedly, been denied water to wash, or clean clothing, and food by the “evil” Germans. Among the pictures are “before” and “after” images showing: 1) Jews before they were deloused and bathed, and 2) Jews afterward. Before they were deloused and bathed, the men looked like a casting call for “Fagan” in some realistic British version of Charles Dickens’s “Oliver Twist.” In other words, they looked like stereotypical “dirty Jews”–which they were, of course. No one had to dress them up for the part. Was Charles Dickens anti-Semitic? Probably, and why not?

      Friedrich Paul Berg
      Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
      Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
      There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
      http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
      The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves.

      Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 13, 2016 @ 9:34 am

  5. FG, do you ever worry about being outed?

    Comment by Anonymous — May 11, 2016 @ 5:18 pm

    • Who will be the ones that would out FG?

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — May 11, 2016 @ 5:20 pm

      • This question was directed at FG. I was wondring if she ever worries about having her identity exposed.

        Comment by Anonymous — May 17, 2016 @ 1:05 pm

        • Of course, I worry about having my identity exposed. What I write is against the law in 19 countries and will soon be against the law in the USA. I could go to prison for 5 years for the crime of writing this blog.

          Comment by furtherglory — May 17, 2016 @ 3:26 pm

          • Y’all read George Orwell one too many times. I’m not a conspiracy buff. That shit would never happen here. If it did,I just head for the 3rd,4th or 5th ward,downtown Houston . To many “brothers” down there. People wanna try to hunt someone down in one of those wards. Good luck. People go in,but they won’t come out. Trust me when I say Houston P D or Harris County Sheriffs Department don’t even wanna go in there . The “mean streets ” are what would save this place. Ever try to tell a black man or Mexican what he will or will not do? No. I ain’t worried about laws like that. Those are places the Hebs don’t wanna think about trying to control.

            Comment by Tim — May 17, 2016 @ 4:51 pm

    • “Deja vu “. I think this question was already asked. What does,”outed” mean? Is like being “overthrown “?

      Comment by Tim — May 12, 2016 @ 3:23 pm

  6. it must have been quite a shock for the Ost Juden many of whom had never seen a bath before in their lives to be ordered to strip and have a shower . No wonder they were terrified that they were going to be ” gassed”

    Comment by peter — May 10, 2016 @ 3:56 am

    • “it must have been quite a shock for the Ost Juden many of whom had never seen a bath before in their lives to be ordered to strip and have a shower . No wonder they were terrified that they were going to be ” gassed””

      Ladies and gentlemen, I give you one of the reasons I find Holocaust denial full of crap:
      Stupid, racist anti-Semitic statements.

      Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 9:50 am

      • It’s actually a valid statement of fact . You seem slightly divorced from reality . Yes of course they all had en suite shower rooms in their homes with walk in robes and double door garage.

        Comment by peter — May 10, 2016 @ 3:52 pm

        • “It’s actually a valid statement of fact . You seem slightly divorced from reality . Yes of course they all had en suite shower rooms in their homes with walk in robes and double door garage.”

          Your statement is contradictory.
          On the one hand you say the Eastern Jews were shocked by showers, now:
          “Yes of course they all had en suite shower rooms in their homes with walk in robes and double car garage.”

          So which is it?

          Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 4:22 pm

          • Eastern European Jews had a well-deserved reputation for being filthy and passionately resistant to bathing which many regarded as as “forced baptism.” Just look at the fine human specimens in a famous photo album stolen from Auschwitz: http://www.nazigassings.com/StrollingtotheGasChambers.html

            Friedrich Paul Berg
            Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
            Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
            There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
            http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
            The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

            Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 10, 2016 @ 5:06 pm

            • I remember reading in several places that the Jews in the ghettos were very filthy and the men didn’t shave in that wasn’t a really good situation for the lice situation going on so yes there was a problem with the Jews in the hygiene of course no one wants to talk about that.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 5:11 pm

            • “Eastern European Jews had a well-deserved reputation for being filthy and passionately resistant to bathing which many regarded as as “forced baptism.” Just look at the fine human specimens in a famous photo album stolen from Auschwitz:”

              You really have issues, don’t you?
              What is surprising that an SS man would fall in love with one of these “filthy creatures.”

              https://m.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/auschwitz-love-story.html

              Isn’t it sweet? One of Hitler’s ideological warriors falling in love with a Jewess…at Auschwitz, no less.

              She’s rather pretty, Mr. Berg. I guess the need to keep one’s “blood pure” means less when the subhuman has a pretty face and a nice form.

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 5:20 pm

              • Jeff the Jews were filthy rotten people the men particularly they never bathed ecause of their religious fanatical views. I’m sure Hitler would be rolling over in his grave to know what happened with all these people and how they brought in the lice and disease and all these camps.
                the pictures will tell you the story just look at the pictures.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 5:24 pm

                • I honestly don’t know what to say.

                  I’ll try.

                  They were locked in overcrowded ghettos with limited access to fresh water or proper sanitation.
                  When they arrived at places like Auschwitz they often spent a long time traveling in crowded train cars.
                  I’d like to see what you would look like in either circumstance. In fact, I’d LIKE to see what you would look like in one of the ghettos or camps your hero inflicted on the world.
                  That goes for Berg as well. Better yet, I think I want to see Berg personally test his “diesel fumes aren’t dangerous” theory. He could take Hermie with him, they could bond. My suggestion:
                  Have 911 on speed dial.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 5:45 pm

                • Jeff funny how you don’t mention about the fanatical Jews who refused to shave their beards because of their religious fanaticism. They could have made the ghettos a better place if they weren’t so filthy rotten dirty. Why do you think men shave their beards because beards our Haven for a little mites and lice and things like that but the Jews refuse to do it because of their fanatical religious views. These people a psychopaths and they deserve what they got because they didn’t take care of themselves and they didn’t care about anybody else they only care about themselves and their hygiene was let go and whoever was affected afterwards had to deal with it.

                  The Jews poor hygiene cause the death of many people.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 5:48 pm

                • “Jeff funny how you don’t mention about the fanatical Jews who refused to shave their beards because of their religious fanaticism. They could have made the ghettos a better place if they weren’t so filthy rotten dirty. Why do you think men shave their beards because beards our Haven for a little mites and lice and things like that but the Jews refuse to do it because of their fanatical religious views. These people a psychopaths and they deserve what they got because they didn’t take care of themselves and they didn’t care about anybody else they only care about themselves and their hygiene was let go and whoever was affected afterwards had to deal with it.”

                  Oh, wow, are you actually blaming Jewish beards for the poor sanitary conditions in the ghettos?
                  It’s funny because I don’t think it was a problem until they were DENIED FRESH WATER TO CLEAN THEMSELVES.

                  “The Jews poor hygiene cause the death of many people.”

                  No, lack of fresh water, malnutrition and poor sanitation caused the death of many people, Jim. All due to Nazi policy.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 6:18 pm

                • Jeff you are so in denial about what happened here I can’t believe it it’s on record that this was a problem but nobody wants to accept it because they don’t want to deal with her filthy these people work. Now I’m not saying all the Jews are filthy but I’m saying the Men with the Beards would mafe it hell for everybody else.
                  The Jews have nobody to blame but themselves.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 6:22 pm

                • So, let me make sure I understand you correctly.

                  It was the Jews fault that the Germans shoved them into over crowded ghettos without adequate sanitation or fresh water.

                  I see.

                  Again, I give you another reason why Holocaust denial is full of crap.

                  Why don’t you just take the next step:
                  The Holocaust happened and the Germans were justified in killing all of those Jews.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 8:52 am

                • How about the Jews were filthy rotten people.
                  You still refuse to accept that.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 11, 2016 @ 8:57 am

                • I wrote about why people hate the Jews on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/10/11/general-patton-and-his-attitude-toward-the-jews/

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 11, 2016 @ 9:15 am

                • You wrote: “Why don’t you just take the next step:
                  The Holocaust happened and the Germans were justified in killing all of those Jews.”

                  You seem to think that all Germans are born with “original sin on their souls”.
                  I wrote about this on this blog post:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/07/05/american-pastor-jobst-bittner-thinks-todays-germans-have-original-sin-and-collective-guilt-for-the-holocaust/

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 11, 2016 @ 9:34 am

                • “You seem to think that all Germans are born with “original sin on their souls”.”

                  You are making an assumption that is incorrect.

                  All humans have the capacity for good and evil. It is part of our nature. There are very few pure saints or sinners.

                  I have nothing against Germans, Russians, Asians, Africans, etc. To me we are all the same, we all laugh, cry, eat, drink, sleep, use the bathroom, have the capacity for divine love and demonic hate, etc.
                  We are all born and someday we will all die. That is the rule of life.

                  To say that Germans are predisposed to kill Jews is wrong. To say that all Germans are responsible, then and now, for what happened to the Jews and others who died is wrong. That is like blaming me for black slavery or the genocide of the native Americans.

                  I can’t help what some Jews say or feel towards Germans. If they choose to blacken their souls with hatred towards the innocent that is their affair, not mine.

                  What disgusts me is this talk of filth, as though the Jews had any choice in the matter. Being shoved into overcrowded ghetto was not their choice. The conditions they lived in was also not their choice.

                  So, if Jim or Berg also want to blacken their souls with hatred of the helpless I guess that is also their choice…..but it puts them on the same level of the people they profess to despise. Those Jews were filthy on the outside, Jim and Berg’s filth lies on their souls.

                  Good luck to both.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 11:46 am

                • Speaking for myself I don’t hate the person (Jews) but hate their actions.
                  The Jews have done some pretty horrific things and they are not taken to task for it.
                  When they are taken to task they label the person or group of persons doing it antisemitic and haters????
                  Why is it everyone else the bad guys and they are the innocents…..
                  The Germans had a hard task that they were dealing with, and obviously didn’t didn’t see all the problems the Jews would cause them
                  as they struggled to keep them alive and working during the short span of time they were in their custody. Anything that could go wrong did and we are now where we are now.
                  But bottom line…. there was NO extermination policy against them, but looking back if there was things would be a lot better today with them out of the way. Now I’m not saying this because I HATE them I’m saying this because of how they manipulated the HoloHoax to fit what they wanted to do, which was to take the blame of WAR Crimes against Humanity, off the allies and move it upon the Germans who at this point in time had no defense, and no one to go to bat for them.
                  So we have the big bad boogie man ( Germans ) set up to take the fall and everyone else (the real bad guys) Jews and allies walk away free and easy like nothing ever happened.
                  And they continue to pound the Germans and Hitler into the ground everyday non stop with their hateful drivel that when it’s all said and done most people don’t know if they are coming or going anymore because they have been so brainwashed by the lies and propaganda unloaded upon them for all these years.
                  What we need is a open minded forum to debate the issues at hand and those guilty let them suffer the consequences and those innocent
                  walk away proud. But that’s not happening and I doubt that it will ever happened because of the controlled Jewish media who prevents the truth from seeing the light of day. There is lot to lose here (money wise) for telling the truth and they (Jews) are not ones to surrender so easily.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 11, 2016 @ 1:09 pm

                • “The Germans had a hard task that they were dealing with, and obviously didn’t didn’t see all the problems the Jews would cause them
                  as they struggled to keep them alive and working during the short span of time they were in their custody. Anything that could go wrong did and we are now where we are now.”

                  Jim, that is utterly ridiculous.
                  The Germans crammed the Jews into overcrowded ghettos and camps. The Jews suffered from malnutrition, disease and abuse. They practically had no clean water or adequate sanitation.

                  The Germans hurt THEMSELVES doing this. In Poland Jews were farmers, laborers and craftsman, valuable to the local economy. All of these valuable, hard working people locked away because they were Jews.

                  For some reason you think the ghettos and camps were Club Med. They were not, a lot of people suffered, not just Jews. Soviet POW camps were death camps, over 2 million Red Army soldiers died in them between the Summer of 1941 until the Spring of 1942. These soldiers suffered from malnutrition, disease and abuse. The only thing that spared them was the Reich’s need for labor.

                  You really need to put down the denier books and read real history for a change.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 1:40 pm

                • When I think of beards,Rasputin is the first person to come to mind. He was one nasty ass bitch. There are 2 things no one has mentioned yet. Where did all the human waste go? With the shit being overpopulated,they probably didn’t have sufficient plumbing for human waste. What about rats? Hey back in the 1300’s when the ships pulled into Messina,they bought plague carrying rats. I’m pretty sure the ghettos had rats. How many of the people in the ghetto died from diseased rats?

                  Comment by Tim — May 12, 2016 @ 11:32 am

                • “What about rats? Hey back in the 1300’s when the ships pulled into Messina,they bought plague carrying rats. I’m pretty sure the ghettos had rats. How many of the people in the ghetto died from diseased rats?”

                  I don’t know but rats carry fleas and fleas carry typhus. Typhus was a deadly killer during the war, Tim. The Germans did use Zyclon B at the concentration camps on clothing to delouse it.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 11:40 am

                • You wrote: “They were locked in overcrowded ghettos with limited access to fresh water or proper sanitation.”

                  I wrote about the “ghettos” on this blog post:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/jews-from-the-warsaw-ghetto-were-sent-to-the-treblinka-death-camp-except-for-norman-finkelsteins-parents/

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 10, 2016 @ 6:00 pm

            • I suggest everyone read my essay: “Typhus and the Jews” from 1988. It includes commentary by Jews such as
              Adam Czerniakow, the Jewish mayor of the Jewish ghetto in Warsaw. http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p433_berg.html

              Try to also read “Jew town” by Jacob Riis about Jewish filth in NYC in the 1880’s long before Nazis could possibly be blamed for anything. http://www.bartleby.com/208/10.html The whole world has good reason to be anti-Semitic!

              Friedrich Paul Berg
              Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
              Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
              There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
              http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
              The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

              Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 10, 2016 @ 7:11 pm

          • Jeff wrote: “Your statement is contradictory. On the one hand you say the Eastern Jews were shocked by showers, now: “Yes of course they all had en suite shower rooms in their homes with walk in robes and double car garage.” So which is it?”

            Sarcasm Detector visibly damaged. Need help…😉

            Comment by hermie — May 11, 2016 @ 5:05 pm

            • No, nothing wrong with my sarcasm meter.

              Just wanted to see what Peter sputtered out.

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 6:05 pm

              • From what I’ve seen of him, Peter is uninterested in endless talkings leading nowhere. Seems you’ll have to find other playmates…

                Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 8:15 am

                • What, are you saying you don’t want to play with me anymore?

                  😱😱😱😱😱😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😱😢😨

                  Does this have to do with whole Rudenko thing?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 8:34 am

                • Jeff wrote: “What, are you saying? you don’t want to play with me anymore?”

                  No, I’m not. But Peter is seemingly not the kind of guys who like playing such games. Even if that’s true I’ll probably be much less often on FG’s blog in the coming weeks or months.

                  Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 4:36 pm

                • I think the same for me as well.
                  I don’t mind you or Jim so much but Berg is stinking up the neighborhood.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 4:51 pm

                • Mr. Berg rarely posts comments on this blog. A very occasional commentator.

                  Comment by hermie — May 13, 2016 @ 7:26 am

    • Did you ever hear of something called Mikvah?

      Comment by Anonymous — May 11, 2016 @ 5:42 pm

      • “Mikvah”. What the hell would she want anything to do with mikvah. FG is clearly not Jewish . A mikvah is a “mystical pool of rainwater”. A person can get in touch with their “spiritual side”. It is built at a synagogue. Look here slick. I believe in an afterlife and higher being. FG don’t ( that is most certainly her right as a human being and I respect it). Why the hell would she give two shits about a mikvah. It’s all spiritual.

        Comment by Tim — May 12, 2016 @ 3:34 pm

  7. Does Furtherglory believe any of the prisoners in those Auschwitz-Birkenau photos were gassed to death?

    Friedrich Paul Berg

    Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 9, 2016 @ 7:38 pm

    • “Does Furtherglory believe any of the prisoners in those Auschwitz-Birkenau photos were gassed to death?”

      She doesn’t.

      I do.

      Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 7:48 pm

      • FG is a woman? I didn’t know that.
        Are you sure?

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — May 9, 2016 @ 7:50 pm

        • Sorry, that might have been a little abrupt.
          Yes, and it surprised me as well.

          Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 7:55 pm

        • Thanks. I’ve been trying to figure out the gender of our mystery host,every since I’ve been reading this site.

          Comment by Tim — May 10, 2016 @ 8:35 am

      • :”Gassed to death”–really? Based on what?

        Friedrich Paul Berg

        Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 9, 2016 @ 7:55 pm

        • Several things:

          Records show over a million Jews were transported to Auschwitz-Birkenau from 1942-1944, yet only a few were transferred to other camps.

          Building on the first point, over 400,000 Hungarian Jews were transported to Birkenau between May and July of 1944, less than 100,000 (approximately 70,000) are accounted for by transfers to other camps. Naturally it is reasonable to assume a certain percentage dying through natural causes, however this does not account for the majority.

          Forensic investigations done by the Poles and Soviets found cyanide in hair samples and equipment from the gas chambers.

          Investigations done by the Poles in 1990 and 1994 found cyanide residue in the gas chambers.

          I realize you don’t like witness, perpetrator or bystander statements so I will refrain from bringing them up.

          Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 8:06 pm

          • Nafcash.com
            Collect you money.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — May 9, 2016 @ 8:10 pm

            • I’ve read that, Jim.
              It’s a joke.

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 5:49 am

          • All of Jeff K.’s arguments and/or “evidence” above are simply terrible. Shame on you, Jeff K. You have obviously NOT read the revisionist evidence or arguments carefully at all. Stop pretending to know what you are talking about.

            The Poles found ONLY trace amounts of cyanide in the alleged “homicidal gas chambers” without any of the stunningly dramatic blue coloring found in the delousing chambers nearby, less than three hundred feet away–even on the exterior walls of those delousing chambers. See the photos on my website and elsewhere.

            Friedrich Paul Berg

            Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 9, 2016 @ 8:17 pm

            • “All of Jeff K.’s arguments and/or “evidence” above are simply terrible.”

              Now, that hurts. I tried to be pithy and yet give my arguments as strongly as I could.

              “Shame on you, Jeff K.”

              What, exactly, should I be “ashamed” about?

              “You have obviously NOT read the revisionist evidence or arguments carefully at all.”

              Now, see, you are making an assumption.
              I have read “revisionist” evidence and arguments. Is the assumption that once I read such evidence and arguments that I would be swayed to your point of view? I’m not because it is not convincing. It does not match the historical timeline or historical fact. I’m also not an anti-Semite, which appears to be a prerequisite for being a Holocaust denier (with some exceptions, naturally).

              “Stop pretending to know what you are talking about.”

              I don’t pretend, I know what I am talking about. What I don’t know I look up.

              “The Poles found ONLY trace amounts of cyanide in the alleged “homicidal gas chambers” without any of the stunningly dramatic blue coloring found in the delousing chambers nearby, less than three hundred feet away–even on the exterior walls of those delousing chambers. See the photos on my website and elsewhere.”

              I’m not a chemist (Fred Leuchter and I have that in common) but after reading the information of Richard Green (who is) my understanding is the lack of “Prussian Blue” staining is based upon the chambers having a lower exposure to Zyclon B over a shorter period of time. Also, the fact that the gas chambers were sprayed out after use may have prevented the formation of “Prussian Blue.”
              As for the Poles, they took control samples from the barracks that we know were disinfected at least once during the typhus epidemic of 1942. Those barracks showed no traces of cyanide. The gas chambers did, even though those chambers were exposed to the elements for (at the time) around 50 years.

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 6:06 am

              • Polish “evidence” or forensic findings are worthless as far as I am concerned unless they are corroborated by other findings from western insititutions or independent researchers. The Polish government has an enormous vested interest in the holocaust hoax–as it proves every day with its own official Auschwitz propaganda, as intense as anything Jews like Jeff R. and Richard Green promote. The Polish chemists deliberately excluded iron-cyanide compounds from their test results which they could not explain–thereby showing a strong and inexcusable bias in their results and conclusions. Germar Rudolf has discussed this at length in his writings–and he is a professional chemist.

                At the alleged homicidal gas chambers which supposedly were used many times almost every day–packed with victims and then corpses afterward for many hours, days most likely–there are no readings for cyanide compounds above trace levels as even Richard Green admits. Germar Rudolf, however, has shown that blue staining was a frequent feature of many structures far removed from camps where cyanide had been used for fumigation–even if only on rare occasions. At the alleged homicidal gas chambers, however, there is absolutely NO blue staining anywhere even though the bricks beneath the stucco appear to be the exact same bricks as those used in the delousing gas chambers!

                Jeff R. should be ashamed of himself for spreading the same racist filth that countless other Jews have been spreading since the war.

                Some of the simplest “evidence” against the Auschwitz gassing hoax is the fact that self-described “eyewitnesses” failed to mention the most striking feature of corpses of people killed with cyanide which is the COLOR. Victims of cyanide gassing are purplish-to-red and dramatically so. Only one alleged “eyewitness,” (Fuchsbauer) mentioned seeing reddish spots which are actually typical for typhus victims. All other “eyewitnesses” gave descriptions from black, to blue, to yellow, even green. They had simply LIED bigtime–as Jews seem to do all the time.

                Friedrich Paul Berg
                Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com
                Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!

                Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 10, 2016 @ 6:49 am

                • “Polish “evidence” or forensic findings are worthless as far as I am concerned unless they are corroborated by other findings from western insititutions or independent researchers.”

                  Would you honestly believe it if an independent researcher confirmed the Pole’s findings?

                  “The Polish government has an enormous vested interest in the holocaust hoax–as it proves every day with its own official Auschwitz propaganda,”

                  Then why not turn Stutthof into a death camp? It’s also on Polish soil.
                  I’ve noticed that those who have nothing often scream “propaganda” or “lies.”

                  “as intense as anything Jews like Jeff R. and Richard Green promote.”

                  I’m actually “Jeff K.” I can’t speak for Mr. Green but I’m not a Jew. It does say a lot about you that you go there.

                  “The Polish chemists deliberately excluded iron-cyanide compounds from their test results which they could not explain–thereby showing a strong and inexcusable bias in their results and conclusions.”

                  As I’ve said, I’m not a chemist. The Poles who did the test are chemists as is Richard Green. I’m going to take their word over a loathsome anti-Semite with an agenda.

                  “Germar Rudolf has discussed this at length in his writings–and he is a professional chemist.”

                  Are we sure it was actually Germar Rudolf? The man has so many pseudonyms that it is hard to tell…..he even cited himself under his pseudonyms, which I find funny as hell.

                  “At the alleged homicidal gas chambers which supposedly were used many times almost every day–packed with victims and then corpses afterward for many hours, days most likely–there are no readings for cyanide compounds above trace levels as even Richard Green admits. Germar Rudolf, however, has shown that blue staining was a frequent feature of many structures far removed from camps where cyanide had been used for fumigation–even if only on rare occasions. At the alleged homicidal gas chambers, however, there is absolutely NO blue staining anywhere even though the bricks beneath the stucco appear to be the exact same bricks as those used in the delousing gas chambers!”

                  But the rooms were hosed down after each gassing which may have prevented the formation of Prussian Blue. Green also brought up the possibility of the carbon dioxide generated by the victims affecting the formation. Again, I’m not a chemist but it convinced me.

                  “Jeff R. should be ashamed of himself for spreading the same racist filth that countless other Jews have been spreading since the war.”

                  Again, I’m Jeff K. What racist filth am I spreading? I’m also going to remind you at this point I’m not a Jew. However, if it helps to soothe your conspiracy/paranoia complex I am willing to play along.

                  “Some of the simplest “evidence” against the Auschwitz gassing hoax is the fact that self-described “eyewitnesses” failed to mention the most striking feature of corpses of people killed with cyanide which is the COLOR. Victims of cyanide gassing are purplish-to-red and dramatically so. Only one alleged “eyewitness,” (Fuchsbauer) mentioned seeing reddish spots which are actually typical for typhus victims. All other “eyewitnesses” gave descriptions from black, to blue, to yellow, even green. They had simply LIED bigtime–as Jews seem to do all the time.”

                  I find it hysterically funny that deniers who rail against eyewitnesses often use eyewitness observations to make their points.
                  But, I digress.
                  The coloring you describe, black, blue, green, is indicative of many things, trauma incurred by the victims, some perhaps suffocating under the weight of other victims, etc.
                  I wonder how quickly the coloring you describe forms and is observable by the naked eye.
                  In any case, feel free to respond.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 7:26 am

              • Have you ever seen a gas chamber yourself? I have. I’ve seen a real gas chamber in Jefferson City, MO and I have also seen several Holocaust gas chambers. Read my blog post about the Mauthausen gas chamber: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/05/02/who-were-the-nazi-gas-chamber-engineers/

                Here is a tip for Jeff: Some day you might see one the the Nazi gas chambers, and you will burst out laughing. You could get arrested and thrown into prison for 5 years. So keep saying to yourself: “Don’t laugh; don’t laugh.”

                Comment by furtherglory — May 10, 2016 @ 6:54 am

                • What does a modern gas chamber have to do with 40’s era technology?

                  I doubt I will laugh at anything when I visit the remaining concentration camps.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 7:54 am

                • Before Jeff K. gets any more “hysterical” about defending his “eyewitnesses,” he should go to my website where I show medical evidence of the intense coloring of victims cyanide and CO gassing. That purplish-to-red coloring is extremely intense and is easily observed by anyone who is not color-blind. That coloring is supported by a vast medical literature going back more than a hundred years.

                  Another body of literature which has emerged in just the last thirty years about the actual details and procedures for gas executions in the US is decisive. Contrary to the holocaust filth which people like Jeff R. find so persuasive and want to believe for perverse reasons, gas executions are far from quick or easy. The last gas execution anywhere in the world took place in 1999–and took eighteen minutes to kill a single individual. Most gas executions took almost as long–unless the victims c-o-o-p-e-r-a-t-e-d or a-s-s-i-s-t-e-d in their own executions by taking a big deep breath on a signal from the warden to try to ingest a large fatal dose quickly leading to death in about five minutes. And yet, the holocaust filth terlls us that thousands of Jews were killed at a time in as little as three minutes. How was that possible? How was the gas even dispersed to remote corners of a gas chamber when the fans were supposedly turned ON only afterward?

                  The Holocaust gassing story is NOT possible, Jeff K. Shame on you for having spread such racist filth!

                  Friedrich Paul Berg
                  Learn everything at http://www.nazigassings.com
                  Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!

                  Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 10, 2016 @ 8:03 am

                • “Before Jeff K. gets any more “hysterical” about defending his “eyewitnesses,” ”

                  I actually don’t defend anyone. I also believe the word “hysterical” better describes you.

                  “he should go to my website where I show medical evidence of the intense coloring of victims cyanide and CO gassing. That purplish-to-red coloring is extremely intense and is easily observed by anyone who is not color-blind. That coloring is supported by a vast medical literature going back more than a hundred years.”

                  I believe every word you just said.
                  Now, how long does it take for this coloring to appear after death? Is it minutes? Hours? Does the health of the victim determine how long it takes, or how bright the color is? Would someone less oxygenated or malnourished have any effect on this color? What about age?

                  “Another body of literature which has emerged in just the last thirty years about the actual details and procedures for gas executions in the US is decisive. Contrary to the holocaust filth which people like Jeff R.”

                  I’m going to politely remind you at this point that I am Jeff K.
                  Why do you refer to this as filth?

                  “find so persuasive and want to believe for perverse reasons, gas executions are far from quick or easy. The last gas execution anywhere in the world took place in 1999–and took eighteen minutes to kill a single individual.”

                  Again, you are making the mistake of comparing modern executions with mass executions.

                  “Most gas executions took almost as long–unless the victims c-o-o-p-e-r-a-t-e-d or a-s-s-i-s-t-e-d in their own executions by taking a big deep breath on a signal from the warden to try to ingest a large fatal dose quickly leading to death in about five minutes.”

                  It is really about concentration, Mr. Berg. Modern executions are tailored to one person with the dose prepared that way. Mass executions like the Nazis used at Birkenau used a much higher concentration in order to make it work and this required some experimentation…which is documented.

                  “And yet, the holocaust filth terlls us that thousands of Jews were killed at a time in as little as three minutes. How was that possible? How was the gas even dispersed to remote corners of a gas chamber when the fans were supposedly turned ON only afterward?”

                  Cyanide is a gas that is lighter than air, Mr. Berg. It will naturally fill a confined space without the assistance of fans.
                  I don’t believe the delousing buildings had fans, either.

                  “The Holocaust gassing story is NOT possible, Jeff K. Shame on you for having spread such racist filth!”

                  Thank you for getting my name right.
                  I still don’t understand how I am spreading “racist filth.”

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 10:26 am

                • Gas chamber is no longer used here in the states. Only a handful of states use it as a secondary form of execution. The bleeding hearts say gas is cruel. So everyone is pretty much going to the needle.

                  Comment by Tim — May 11, 2016 @ 11:47 am

                • I wrote about the Missouri gas chamber in these blog posts: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/missouri-gas-chamber/

                  As far as I know, this gas chamber is no longer used.

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 11, 2016 @ 12:47 pm

                • No state in the union uses gas anymore. It is still on the books of a few states for secondary method of execution.

                  Comment by Tim — May 14, 2016 @ 10:06 am

                • gas executions are far from quick or easy

                  9th Circuit Rules Calif. Gas Chamber Unconstitution Cruel & Unusual Punishment

                  Comment by eah — May 10, 2016 @ 9:46 am

                • That’s why nobody uses gas anymore.

                  Comment by Tim — May 11, 2016 @ 2:39 pm

              • Unfortunately, the holocaust proponents who claim that the “gas chambers” at Birkenau were sprayed, or hosed down, with water ( or a combination of water plus a chemical agent ) after each gassing session have not thought their story through properly.

                You see, Kremas II & III lie mainly underground and thus all the run-off water would have to drain away somewhere. This could only happen in two ways;- 1) either by a drain built into the floor of the chamber, or 2) or by a long hose-pipe which was brought in afterwards. But both methods would require electric pumps – not only to lift the water back up towards ground level, but also to carry it away to the Koningsgraben drainage ditch ( which carried all the outflow effluent away from the camp, and into the River Wisla).

                But no one has ever claimed that drains existed in the floors of the chambers at Kremas II and III; and neither has any mention been made of the piping and pumping arrangements necessary to extract the contaminated water and carry it away effectively. But if hosing down the chambers afterwards was such an important part of the process, then why is there no physical or testimonial evidence of such a drainage system being used.

                Comment by Talbot — May 10, 2016 @ 7:34 am

                • Talbot’s point above is a good one but it will be systematically ignored, or worse, just as all of mine are by a thoroughly corrupted society such as ours. The REAL monsters of modern history were the Americans and Brits aided and abetted in every possible way by the lying Jews–who are the most rabidly racist creatures of all. And yet, because of their wealth and power, the lying Jews continue to portray themselves as the exact opposite. In the US they are all about “humanity” and “tolerance” supposedly, while simultaneously practicing genocide against the Palestinians in the Mideast–even with billions of dfollars American aid every year. .

                  Friedrich Paul Berg
                  Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
                  Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
                  There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
                  http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
                  The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

                  Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 10, 2016 @ 8:18 am

                • “Talbot’s point above is a good one but it will be systematically ignored, or worse, just as all of mine are by a thoroughly corrupted society such as ours. The REAL monsters of modern history were the Americans and Brits aided and abetted in every possible way by the lying Jews–who are the most rabidly racist creatures of all. And yet, because of their wealth and power, the lying Jews continue to portray themselves as the exact opposite. In the US they are all about “humanity” and “tolerance” supposedly, while simultaneously practicing genocide against the Palestinians in the Mideast–even with billions of dfollars American aid every year. .”

                  Have you ever considered the possibility that your problem is the way you deliver said message and not what your message is?

                  For instance, the way you talk about Jews makes you the one who is “rabidly racist.”

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 10:32 am

                • I feel sorry for those who have limited access to facts or who do not want to learn but stick to defend their truth and stop their learning there.

                  How did I ever stumble on to this blog? I was reading about the present invaders into Europe and found one comment that only said “Morgenthau”. That was intriguing. I had never heard of this in my 80 years. I lived before the war, during the war and after the war. I should have known everything.

                  For Americans it must be difficult to understand. Like us in Europe you have been told the truth that was constructed for you to believe.
                  It must be very difficult to learn now that you have been cheated all the way.

                  I was also surprised that Churchill was a war criminal and Eisenhower even more.
                  America had nothing to do in Europe and if America had stayed out of the war we had only had a minor conflict.

                  I think that commenting here by Americans without no recent European connection is next to impossible. If they have done extensive personal research like Further Glory, it is a different story.

                  For Americans it is practically impossible to understand what the situation was really like at that time in Europe.

                  Comment by Dr Kim — May 10, 2016 @ 11:12 am

                • Great Point Dr. Kim the United States had a weasel her way into this war because of the Jews. Europe would have been in great shape because Hitler was trying to make peace but Churchill and Roosevelt later Eisenhower and the people preceding him didn’t want that to happen. The Jews make sure they got their War and the Germans got blamed for it and the rest is history. People in the United States have to be the dumbest people in the world because they have no clue what went on during that time. And they just take what is said by the Jews without questioning it. When you put the time in to the research like we revisionist have done you’ll find the truth but it takes some work…. it’s sad to see Americans who post on this site being so blinded from what the truth is, but they choose to remain ignorant. When it comes to Truth versus lies they want to believe the lie.
                  The true term for them is cognitive dissonance it’s actually painful for them to learn the truth their brain has been programmed altogether differently and it actually hurts them to learn the truth later

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 11:22 am

                • Dr. Kim, I have done extensive research.

                  I think the idea that had the United States stayed out of it that the European war would have remained a minor conflict is far fetched. By the time Hitler declared war on the United States his invasion of the Soviet Union was in full force, with neither the Germans or the Soviets showing any sign of backing down. Most of the German casualties were on the Eastern Front, with Soviet casualties around 27 million people. These casualties included both civilian and military casualties.
                  It is entirely possible that US involvement actually shortened the war, with the mass bombing campaign destroying or disrupting German industry and US troops in North Africa, Sicily, Italy and France forcing the Germans to send troops from the Eastern Front to these locations.
                  It is horrible to think of the consequences of either a complete German or Soviet victory. A German victory meant an enormous, racially based empire straddling the middle of Europe to the Urals, subjugating or killing the local population and forcing millions more into the wilds of Siberia. A complete Soviet victory meant the subjugation of most, if not all, of mainland Europe to the horrors of Stalinism.
                  A more likely outcome was a vicious draw and a perpetual state of warfare, yearly consuming millions of lives and billions of dollars of property.
                  So, if nothing else, US involvement meant at least half of Europe remained free until Communism choked on its contradictions and died a welcome death.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 11:33 am

                • A complete victory, by either Stalin or Hitler, would have been a disaster of global proportions.

                  You forget the nasty, racist side of National Socialism, Jim. I frankly don’t understand your admiration of Hitler, it’s like admiring Mao or Stalin.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 12:07 pm

                • Jeff because you have not done enough research you really don’t know the other side of Hitler. If you’ve done the research you’ve seen that Hitler was a very kind honest and reputable person but since you’ve been so brainwashed by the Jews you’re going to come up with the Viewpoint that you have you have no clue about Hitler what he stood for what it was about because you get the new Jew version of him once you start understanding what he stood for then you start changing your tune but you’ve been so brainwashed over the years you have allowed yourself to not find the truth about him.
                  I’m not saying everything Hitler did was right or wrong but he tried to do what was right for Germany that’s all I can say. His methods might have been a little harsh in some ways but he was dealing with it abnormal problem. Honestly I think he didn’t understand the mental attitude of the Jews and how bad they were even coming into subjugation of him they poison everything and Hitler didn’t realize it. I don’t think he underdtood the Hornet’s Nest he was getting into when he took them on.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 12:40 pm

                • I have written extensively about Hitler on my blog:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/hitler/

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 10, 2016 @ 12:50 pm

                • I didn’t think anyone still listened to oreily. I know I don’t . The picture of the woman who is to “get a shower”. Who said that was the story behind the picture? To me it seems as though,only 4 people know the true story of that photo. You ask me it looks like she’s arguing with that one ol boy. The other 2 guys are holding her back trying to keep her from kicking his ass ( hey. She looks like a pretty big gal. I wouldn’t piss her off). The four folks that know the story of the photo,are probably dead. Like I said,who’s the historian that said that’s the skinny on that photo? Misleading or flat out false photos,are abundant when it comes to any war. I saw a photo on here one time that had the Jews stacked like winter fire wood. Said they were gassed. Turns out they died from typhus. I don’t know what the real story was. I wasn’t there. My point here is this. They can make the photos be what they want them to be. Historians have their own agenda. What about the pic of the bullet catchers raising the flag at Iwo Jima? We find out down the road, it was staged. It wasn’t the real soldiers that raised the flag. However after finding out the truth,people still felt more comfortable buying into the BS photo,than the truth. I’m reading Mein Kampf “. Hitler said,he never heard his dad speak in a negative way about Jews growing up. He said there was a Jew he went to school with. The kids were on their guard around him,but nobody hated him. He said most of the Jews in Germany at that time,had been “Europeanized “. He said he didn’t understand why someone would hate someone else,just cause their views were different. He said when he got to Vienna ,they had a high population of Jews, but he had too many problems of his own to give a shit about them. So what is the one “defining moment”, that history says turned uncle Adolph 180 on the Jews ? I’m sure I’ll find the answer in his book,but I just want to see what the liberal historian pukes have to say about it. I know there’s got to be some people out there that still love the man. A sculpture of him praying,sold at Sotheby’s for 17.5 million a few days back.

                  Comment by Tim — May 12, 2016 @ 8:37 am

          • Okay. This is what I’ve read,so help me out here. I heard they did autopsies on x number of bodies. They said the evidence showed that the bodies died from typhus. None of the showed evidence of death by gas. So what’s the skinny on that?

            Comment by Tim — May 10, 2016 @ 8:41 am

            • Are you talking about Birkenau or another camp?

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 9:54 am

              • I am sure that many thousands upon thousands of autopsies were performed by Allied doctors to find at least some smidgeon of proof of gas executions in concentration camps –but no one has found even one case. However, the Soviets had claimed already in 1943 at their Kharkov and Krasnodar show trials that they had overwhelming evidence of CO gassings by the Germans using “gas vans.” Those claims were bogus because it was also claimed that it was the DIESEL engines in those vehicles that was the source of the CO. The simple fact is that diesel exhaust contains only minuscule amounts of CO–not enough to kill anyone.

                After the war, Dr. Chas. P. Larsen and Dr. Herman Bolker, both American pathologists, performed more than a thousand autopsies at Dachau and nearby camps including Hadamar without finding any evidence of gassings. Those are the only known examples of western doctors having made such autopsies that I know of,– but I am sure there were many more. The British at Belsen, for example, quickly dropped any gassing claims even though Josef Kramer and Dr. Fritz Klein were charged with participating in gassings, not at Belsen, but at Auschwitz–also without any supporting autopsy evidence. It is broadly conceded that none of the thousands of dead at Belsen were from gassings. Nonetherless, the horrible pictures of Belsen’s dead (ALL form natural causes brought on by Allied bombing) serve the holocaust hoax so well. The exact cause of death was typhus generally with extreme high fevers and dehydration.

                Jeff K asked: “Have you ever considered the possibility that your problem is the way you deliver said message and not what your message is?” I have considered that possibility but the answer is that it makes no difference at all. Reasonable and polite answers to the holocaust filth have been around for many decades without much impact generally because of the near total control that Jews have over America and, even worse, over Germany.

                As I write this, there is a “Holocaust Remembrance” celebration in Washington where a Ms Pritzker, US Secretary of Commerce,. just spoke about the importance of “inclusiveness” and “words” [lies] to prevent more holocausts. Such shameless hypocrisy! Does “inclusiveness” apply to Palestinians, for example–or non-Jews? The Jewish answer to my questions is to lie endlessly. The Old Testament is a genocidal, racist diatribe from beginning to end–just read it in its entirety. The one thing holocaust filth proves above everything else is that when the Nazis put Jews into concentration camps during WW2, they certainly had the right idea. Judaism is a disaster for the entire world–for today even more than for any earlier time. The Jewish God is a racist, genocidal monster. That God personifies everything Jews really want and believe as a people, race, or whatever.. The fact that the Jew God did nothing at all to “save” six million of his chosen flock should, however, tell Jews something, But, no matter about that, what really matters is that Jews will gain from their ongoing holocaust filth–more movies, more indoctrination of hapless goyim children, more aid for Israel, and more wars to make Israel safe, forever and ever–and millions of more dead goyim.

                Friedrich Paul Berg
                Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
                Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
                There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
                http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
                The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

                Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 10, 2016 @ 12:08 pm

                • You mentioned the autopsies performed at Dachau.

                  I wrote about the autopsies performed at Dachau on my website.

                  The following quote is from my website:
                  Begin quote

                  Dr. Franz Blaha testified that he had worked as a surgeon in the camp, but after he said that he didn’t want to do any more operations, he was punished by being “sent to the death chamber where autopsies were performed.” Dr. Blaha claimed that he had performed “six to seven thousand autopsies” at Dachau.
                  End quote

                  During the proceedings at Dachau, Dr. Blaha gave testimony, regarding the bodies upon which he had performed autopsies. The following is from the trial transcript, as quoted in “Justice at Dachau” by Joshua M. Greene:

                  Begin quote
                  We took the skin from the chest and back, then used chemicals to treat the skin. Then the skins were placed outside in the sun and parts were cut for saddles, breeches, gloves, house slippers, ladies’ handbags.
                  End quote

                  In answer to a question about what had happened to these items, Dr. Blaha said:

                  Begin quote
                  They were prepared and sent either to SS schools or given to some of the SS men.
                  End quote

                  According to Dr. Blaha’s testimony, these items were made from human skin while a man named Bruno, and then Willy Mirkle, were in charge of the autopsies. Neither of these men were on trial and no items allegedly made from human skin were ever presented as evidence, nor was any forensic report introduced by the prosecution. Blaha’s testimony was corroborated by a confession obtained by Lt. Paul Guth from Dr. Wilhelm Witteler, one of the doctors at Dachau who was among the accused.

                  Dr. Witteler testified that he had been forced to sign this confession, but Lt. Guth testified, under direct examination by the prosecutor, that no coercion had been used on any of the men that he had interrogated.

                  Dr. Blaha testified that Wilhelm Welter was responsible for the deaths of prisoners at Dachau, but he also stated that the only deaths that he could remember had occurred in 1944, which was a year after Welter had left the Dachau main camp to work for six months in the Friedrichshafen sub-camp of Dachau. Welter was found guilty by the American Military Tribunal and was executed by hanging on May 29, 1946.

                  Wilhelm Welter was among the nine men who were singled out for a “Special Case Report” in a book entitled “The Official Report by the U.S. Seventh Army Released Within Days After the Liberation.” According to the Report, Wilhelm Welter “was very brutal and was accused of killing many prisoners and prisoners of war.”

                  The 40 men who were selected for the first proceeding of the American Military Tribunal at Dachau had been chosen to represent every job and department in the camp, including the Commandant, the Gestapo, protective custody staff, the labor allocation staff (Arbeitseinsatz), medical department heads, and the crematory and administrative chiefs. Wilhelm Welter was with the labor allocation department; he was the Arbeitsdienstführer (Work Service Leader) at Dachau, which did not give him the authority to kill the prisoners.

                  In January 1945, Welter was sent to the Eastern front to fight with the Waffen SS. According to the U.S. Seventh Army report, Welter was “subsequently wounded and returned to Germany to train the HJ Birgsau Allgue. From there, he made a trip to Dachau on 7 May 1945, and was apprehended on 9 May 1945. Subject’s interrogation revealed the hideout place of 300 higher SS officers in the mountains.” The 7th of May was the day that the German Army surrendered to the Allies, but it was not explained in the Army Report why Welter returned to Dachau on that day.

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 10, 2016 @ 1:01 pm

                • CORRECTION: Sorry, it was NOT Dr Herman “Bowker” but Dr. Herman “Bolker.” The USHMM provides the following info with several pictures about him: http://digitalassets.ushmm.org/photoarchives/detail.aspx?id=1071139

                  Friedrich Paul Berg
                  Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
                  Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
                  There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
                  http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
                  The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

                  Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 10, 2016 @ 1:21 pm

                • “I am sure that many thousands upon thousands of autopsies were performed by Allied doctors to find at least some smidgeon of proof of gas executions in concentration camps –but no one has found even one case.”

                  The Western allies never made it to Poland, except for a few Western POWs, so the bodies they autopsied were from overcrowded concentration camps the Nazis were shoving people into. None of those bodies were gassing victims and it’s doubtful there were large scale gassings at any of the concentration camps in Germany.

                  “However, the Soviets had claimed already in 1943 at their Kharkov and Krasnodar show trials that they had overwhelming evidence of CO gassings by the Germans using “gas vans.” Those claims were bogus because it was also claimed that it was the DIESEL engines in those vehicles that was the source of the CO. The simple fact is that diesel exhaust contains only minuscule amounts of CO–not enough to kill anyone.”

                  There is substantial evidence that the gas vans were ordinary petrol vans.
                  However, you can adjust Diesel engines to increase carbon monoxide output. Also, there are nasty chemicals in diesel exhaust like sulphur and carbon dioxide that in the right concentration are dangerous in themselves.

                  “After the war, Dr. Chas. P. Larsen and Dr. Herman Bowker, both American pathologists, performed more than a thousand autopsies at Dachau and nearby camps including Hadamar without finding any evidence of gassings. Those are the only known examples of western doctors having made such autopsies that I know of,– but I am sure there were many more. The British at Belsen, for example, quickly dropped any gassing claims even though Josef Kramer and Dr. Fritz Klein were charged with participating in gassings, not at Belsen, but at Auschwitz–also without any supporting autopsy evidence. It is broadly conceded that none of the thousands of dead at Belsen were from gassings. Nonetherless, the horrible pictures of Belsen’s dead (ALL form natural causes brought on by Allied bombing) serve the holocaust hoax so well. The exact cause of death was typhus generally with extreme high fevers and dehydration.”

                  Also, the direct cause of overcrowding and subjecting the inmates to widespread starvation is, naturally enough, the spread of disease. The fact is that the horrible conditions were a direct result of the Germans forcing all of those inmates together.

                  “Jeff K asked: “Have you ever considered the possibility that your problem is the way you deliver said message and not what your message is?” I have considered that possibility but the answer is that it makes no difference at all. Reasonable and polite answers to the holocaust filth have been around for many decades without much impact generally because of the near total control that Jews have over America and, even worse, over Germany.”

                  What Holocaust “filth?”

                  “As I write this, there is a “Holocaust Remembrance” celebration in Washington where a Ms Pritzker, US Secretary of Commerce,. just spoke about the importance of “inclusiveness” and “words” [lies] to prevent more holocausts. Such shameless hypocrisy! Does “inclusiveness” apply to Palestinians, for example–or non-Jews? The Jewish answer to my questions is to lie endlessly. The Old Testament is a genocidal, racist diatribe from beginning to end–just read it in its entirety. The one thing holocaust filth proves above everything else is that when the Nazis put Jews into concentration camps during WW2, they certainly had the right idea. Judaism is a disaster for the entire world–for today even more than for any earlier time. The Jewish God is a racist, genocidal monster. That God personifies everything Jews really want and believe as a people, race, or whatever.”

                  I seriously think you need to work on some of your issues.

                  “The fact that the Jew God did nothing at all to “save” six million of his chosen flock should, however, tell Jews something,”

                  Hey, wait a second. Did you just say the Holocaust happened?????!!!!!?????

                  “But, no matter about that, what really matters is that Jews will gain from their ongoing holocaust filth–more movies, more indoctrination of hapless goyim children, more aid for Israel, and more wars to make Israel safe, forever and ever–and millions of more dead goyim.”

                  The last time I checked no US soldiers died in defense of Isreal, the Isrealis do good enough job of whooping up on all comers that they don’t need US troops.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 6:07 pm

              • I can’t recall. I read about it on this site.

                Comment by Tim — May 14, 2016 @ 10:08 am

  8. FG writes;- Dr. Susan Cernyak-Spatz was 18 years old when she was sent from Czechoslovakia to the Birkenau camp in 1943 and tattooed with the number 34042 on her left arm…In a talk that Cernyak-Spatz gave to sixth-graders at Corriher-Lipe Middle School in May 2000, she stressed to the students that the Holocaust was not a single event, but an efficiently conceived and executed process that began “the minute Adolf Hitler came to power” as Germany’s dictator in 1933.”

    Susan Cernyak-Spatz, came from Austria, but she wasn’t sent straight to Auschwitz – instead, she spent approximately one year in Theresienstadt before being transported onward. Therefore, questions have to be asked about her claim that the holocaust was “an efficiently conceived and executed process”. The Nazi Anschluss with Austria took place in 1938; and she was deported to Theresienstadt in 1942. She was then sent to Auschwitz in 1943, and was still alive at the end of the war in 1945.

    So, no big deal, folks – millions of others survived WW2 as well, and Saucy-Susie is just one of them! I think we can forget all about the holocaust being an “efficiently conceived and executed process.”

    I actually watched Susan give a presentation to students on You Tube – entitled “Doctor Susan Spatz”. And she claims that her train arrived inside the camp at Birkenau in January 1943, and “immediately saw the crematorium chimney shooting out flames and black smoke.”

    But unfortunately, her story is not true (and for three reasons);- 1) – the railway line that passed through the main gateway into the camp was not built until the late-spring of 1944. Up-until then, all arrivals by train were taking place at a railway marshalling yard a distance of a quarter of a mile away from the camp; 2) – None of the chimneys from any of the crematoriums were in operation until March 1943, and thus these facilities were only under construction at the time Susan arrived. 3) – Crematorium chimneys do not belch flames into the sky – if they did, then this would be regarded as an emergency, and all work would immediately cease so that the fire could be rapidly extinguished.

    Susan then goes on to make some other weird claims;- 1) – that the screams of those inside the gas chambers could be heard outside. But how is that possible if the chambers were hermetically sealed; 2) – that the SS guard used a stop-watch to time the gassing process. (But we’ve always been told that a peephole in the door was used to ascertain if those inside were all dead!); 3) – that Russian prisoners of war were taken straight from the battlefield to the extermination centres, and their uniforms – still covered in blood and bulletholes – were handed out to newly-arrived female jews to wear in Auschwitz! 4;- that there was no gas chamber or crematorium inside the Auschwitz Main Camp.

    Now, this last statement of hers is actually quite a bombshell from out of the mouth of a prominent “holocaust survivor”, because the official narrative has always described this facility as “Krema 1”, where many inmates were put to death by “gassing”. It is true that revisionist historians have claimed for many years that Krema 1 was a fake which had been constructed after the war, but it would appear that the official narrative is beginning to crumble.

    Susan also claims that the gas chambers at Krema 2 and Krema 3 in Birkenau could exterminate between them a total of between 3,000 and 4,000 bodies in one action, and that in 1944 two or even three gassing actions could be undertaken each day.

    But let’s do the math regarding the disposal of all these bodies.

    We know that Krema 2 and Krema 3 had 15 cremation ovens each. The holohoaxers have always claimed that three or even four bodies could be crammed into each oven. This is actually physically as well as technically impossible – but for argument we’ll accept it as true. Let us assume that the four bodies could be fully cremated in one hour, which means that 30 ovens could dispose of 120 bodies per hour. If these ovens were then working non-stop for 24 hours, you might, if things went smoothly, be able to achieve a total of 2,880 cremations.

    But Susan is telling us that up to 12,000 bodies could be disposed of in these two crematoria over a 24 hour period. Whoops – something wrong with your story there, Susie.

    Comment by Talbot — May 9, 2016 @ 1:09 pm

  9. The photo caption says;- “Woman who has been selected for the gas chamber struggles to escape at Auschwitz-Birkenau.”

    But the photo itself shows her in the custody of three guys who are not in SS uniform. In fact, they look to me like those shady sort of characters you often see at horse races, fairgrounds, and gambling haunts. They can’t be inmates themselves, because if she had been selected for the gas chamber, then they wouldn’t be holding her tight – but encouraging her to make a run for it. So, they must be undercover SS undercover operatives working in plain clothes!

    The uniformed branch of the SS that we see in the background appear disinterested, but I wonder if they are heading towards that vehicle which maybe a gas van that they just about to start up and fill with doomed innocent Jews.

    Comment by Talbot — May 9, 2016 @ 8:39 am

    • You wrote: “But the photo itself shows her in the custody of three guys who are not in SS uniform.”

      The 3 men who are restraining the woman are Jewish men. There is an SS man in the background who is coming toward them. This woman is upset because she doesn’t know where she is, and she doesn’t know what is going to happen to her. I suspect that the nice SS man in the background will speak kindly to her and reassure her. You have to admit that German men were very nice to women back then, and probably still are nice to women.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 9, 2016 @ 8:48 am

  10. Survived by ,”eating toothpaste and drinking piss”. Anybody else,find that a bit odd? If these people are being starved,why would they need toothpaste? They’re contradicting themselves by saying ,”they ate toothpaste”. If they did in fact,have toothpaste,then clearly they were eating. On the other hand,if the nazis were the assholes the Jews claimed they were,why would they give a shit about the Jews “dental hygiene”? If you ask me, this Jew saw that movie,”hey. I’m alive”, with Ed Asner and Sally Struthers”. They were in a plane crash an survived by eating toothpaste and snow. As far as drinking their own piss. That’s an old one from sailors that go down at sea. Can’t drink the sea water,so they drank their own piss. I’m still waiting for one of them to say,”they survived by eating rats”. That’s more plausible. You can’t tell me there were not rodents of some kind in these camps. The pictures of the dead bodies stacked tree top tall. Rodents ain’t gonna find their way to them?

    Comment by Tim — May 9, 2016 @ 8:19 am

  11. Thank you for the info, I forgot that the inmates were Czech, not Poles.

    Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 8:05 am

  12. Interesting that you don’t see anybody dead on the ground who went through the process. The only people I see are healthy people getting off the train most likely to be deloused and sent to their barracks to work or whatever job they would have. Again this is another HoloHoax tale that makes no sense especially the one about the girl getting the haircut she got a haircut because she had lice it wasn’t because the guards didn’t like her hair but that’s how it is with every event with these people the simplest of an event can be turned into a Horror Story and that’s what we have now horror stories of something that didn’t happen but again people like the horror stories it makes for good reading.
    Again this camp was just another Transit camp where people were deloused and sent on their way.
    If these people would sentt here just to be killed why would they cut their hair it would make no sense at all.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — May 9, 2016 @ 7:54 am

    • “Again this camp was just another Transit camp where people were deloused and sent on their way.
      If these people would sentt here just to be killed why would they cut their hair it would make no sense at all.”

      Yet you can’t say where they went because you can’t prove a negative.
      Sounds like an excuse.

      Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 8:06 am

      • What proof have you ever offered for your stories other than other people’s books based on “eyewitness testimonies” of easily disproved liars?

        Comment by Schlageter — May 9, 2016 @ 2:21 pm

        • “What proof have you ever offered for your stories other than other people’s books based on “eyewitness testimonies” of easily disproved liars?”

          You must be mistaking me for someone else.

          I actually only look at witness statements for details. The rest I look at what is documented.

          We know that in July of 1942 Himmler ordered the ghettos in the General Government cleared except for those Jews engaged in important military industries and their families. This was to be completed by December 31st, 1942.

          This conflicted with Operation Blue, the German military campaign into the Southern reaches of the Soviet Union. This caused Himmler to practically beg for his special trains in the Summer and Fall of 1942.

          We have Koeher’s Report and the Hoefle Telegram that confirm the numbers of Jews “deported” to the Action Reinhard Camps, including Majdanek. Neither document lists any departures from this camps to other locations.

          The Germans did send some Polish Jews into the Soviet Union but Gauleiter Kube ordered a halt to any further transports on July 31st, 1942. His order specifically threatens to eliminate any further unauthorized deportations. His order also lists numbers of local Jews liquidated.

          So, we have all of these Jews sent these camps but no exits or destinations. We can now look at statements of local bystanders, perpetrators and Jews that escaped or fled after the prisoner revolts at Sobibor and Treblinka. We also have the results of the investigations completed by the Poles after the war. All of these point to the conclusion that these were extermination camps, not transit camps.

          Naturally no…..”revisionist researcher.”….has ever recovered any evidence that states otherwise, that Jews “transited” through these camps wound up in a camp system or a ghetto system in the Soviet Union.

          Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 4:07 pm

          • You wrote: “We have Koeher’s Report and the Hoefle Telegram that confirm the numbers of Jews “deported” to the Action Reinhard Camps, including Majdanek. Neither document lists any departures from this camps to other locations.”

            I wrote about the Hoefle telegram on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/does-the-famous-hoefle-telegram-prove-the-holocaust/

            Comment by furtherglory — May 9, 2016 @ 4:32 pm

            • Here is the story behind the Hoefle Telegram:

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Höfle_Telegram

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 4:51 pm

              • Maybe I read this wrong. I don’t know. I followed the link for the Hofle Telegram. Some things seemed to contradict each other. One thing said the telegram talked of the “detailed killing of the Jews in 1942 at Sobibor,Treblinka and Belzec.” Read further and the words “exacting records shared with the DRG.” The next line starts off,”even though holocaust train records were notoriously incomplete…..” I followed a link for “holocaust train”. The thing that stood out like a sore thumb there was this. “Holo trains were transports run by the DRG,under the “strict supervision” of the nazis and their allies”. One thing says the records for this railway were incomplete. Another thing said it was strictly supervised. They contradict each other ( there again the wixpedia is liberal run,so I’m not sure what to believe on either side of the story). With that being said,how can anyone accurately figure out how many folks were killed and where they were sent to?

                Comment by Tim — May 10, 2016 @ 9:08 am

                • Here, Tim:

                  http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/holoprelude/korherr.html

                  The Korherr Report details the dwindling numbers of the Jews in Europe. This document’s numbers matches the Hoefle Telegram regarding the Jews transported to the Reinhard Camps and the death camp at Chelmno.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 10:08 am

                • I don’t g don’t give a rat’s ass about how many Jews died were sent here or there….. it doesn’t matter to me my whole issue has to do with if they were killed how did the Germans kill them because there’s no record or evidence that there were any mass killings of any Jews in any which way or form that I am aware of. Especially with the nonsense claims of zyklon-b steam Chambers electrocution you name it the sillier the better . Now I’m not saying no Jews were killed I’m sure plenty were killed maybe even hundred thousands of them but no Millions and the ones that were killed were probably killed because they deserve to be killed. A lot did die from natural causes so we have to kind of differentiate between the ways that people died. A lot of the Jews were communists and treasonous, seditionists etc… to the state and they were taken to task for what they were doing wrong so if they were executed they deserve to be executed. I have not seen anywhere in my travels innocent people being killed and if innocent people were killed it wasn’t because there was a policy written to do it…. it would have been most likely by a rogue band of people who had some issues with the Jews personally. So when you Holohucksters can show me how the Jews that you claimed really died then I will accept it gladly but up to this point there is no information to show how innocent Jews died there’s plenty of information to show that they died of typhus and disease but I don’t see anything that shows they died being executed.

                  I come up with around 350,000 people who died during the war in the camp’s at the most and that’s from all causes. And half of them might have been Jews.
                  These figures correlate with the Red Cross’s figures
                  Have no clue how many were executed for their treasonous ways because the figures vary so much but that’s another story.

                  The amount of Jews that survived is really the telling story and we know around 4 million survived enough to collect this scam money from reparations.
                  Of course some of these people could have put their names in two or three times to collect we don’t know I don’t know but I don’t doubt it either. Everybody was a holocaust Survivor whether they were in the camps and not… especially the Jews.
                  They could have come to the United States years before the war and they would still claim themselves holocaust Survivors. When there is money involved the Jews will be there to collect and I will make the story fit so they can get their money.
                  Despicable people who can’t be trusted and they continue to carry on lying misrepresenting the truth today just so they can keep their hush money.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 11:07 am

                • You seem grouchy.
                  What’s the matter, Jim?
                  No answers for my questions?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 11:36 am

          • Jeff I look at it this way in these so called extermination camps you can’t prove the people were exterminated so how does that grab you.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — May 9, 2016 @ 4:37 pm

            • “Jeff I look at it this way in these so called extermination camps you can’t prove the people were exterminated so how does that grab you.”

              Well Jim, about 1.5 million people vanished into those camps with no destination afterwards and the Poles basically found an abattoir after the war.

              So, it looks pretty good on my end, don’t you think?

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 9, 2016 @ 5:03 pm

              • By the same logic 14 million Germans disappeared from Pomerania and East Prussia between 1940 and 1945 ; they must have all been exterminated. you will find many elderly Hungarian Jews in Florida, Melbourne and Los Angeles. one of my teachers at school was a “Holocaust survivor ” from Hungary.

                Comment by peter — May 10, 2016 @ 3:42 am

                • Jeff and other Holohucksters Bottom line people ended up somewhere just because you don’t know where they ended up doesn’t mean they were killed. And again that’s a good point about all these people who are coming or have come to the United States who have changed their names they were living in Europe at the time but they are somewhere now they’re not all dead like you want to believe. You have a story that you want to fit to your HoloHoax Viewpoint of what happened. The problem is it doesn’t fit you HoloHoax theory so you blame it on us HoloHoax exposers and say we are wrong because we can’t prove these people are alive, all the proof the proof is on you you have to show us how these people died that’s the real issue where they ended up is not our problem. I already made that clear but again since you have no case that’s the only choice you have and you keep pushing it and pushing it and you are never going to have to prove it and you’re definitely never going to prove how these people died if you believe that.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 4:39 am

                • “Jeff and other Holohucksters Bottom line people ended up somewhere just because you don’t know where they ended up doesn’t mean they were killed. And again that’s a good point about all these people who are coming or have come to the United States who have changed their names they were living in Europe at the time but they are somewhere now they’re not all dead like you want to believe. You have a story that you want to fit to your HoloHoax Viewpoint of what happened. The problem is it doesn’t fit you HoloHoax theory so you blame it on us HoloHoax exposers and say we are wrong because we can’t prove these people are alive, all the proof the proof is on you you have to show us how these people died that’s the real issue where they ended up is not our problem. I already made that clear but again since you have no case that’s the only choice you have and you keep pushing it and pushing it and you are never going to have to prove it and you’re definitely never going to prove how these people died if you believe that.”

                  The problem is Jim is that you say that none of those people died.
                  Ok.
                  For every technical reason you give that the killings didn’t happen I have other experts who say it happened and was perfectly feasible. Now we have a deadlock.
                  Deniers can break that deadlock by showing where these Jews went to DURING the war. It is YOUR responsibility to do so. YOURS is the alternate theory, not mine.
                  So until you do so you don’t have a leg to stand on.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 8:36 am

                • Jeff you are starting to go off in left field here, we don’t have to prove anything you hold a Holohucksters have already laid the whole story out it doesn’t match what the facts are and anything that you can’t explain you make up an explanation so it really doesn’t matter what we say you’re going to come back up with your nonsense anyway so obviously you’re going to believe what nonsense you want to believe and we’re going to believe our way based on fact not fantasy.
                  I also find it fascinating that you dismiss all the Holohuckster liars who have been peddling their trash for over 75 years like that doesn’t matter to you show us where we are purposefully wrong but no you have to defend the liars and then ridicule us as we present facts. There’s a big difference between people that lie and people that might not have all the facts a hundred percent straight and I admit we don’t have all the answers but your so called witnesses are outright lying and presenting a false case for the Holohoax.
                  Again the proof is on you not us we’ve already presented are facts you just don’t agree with them.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 10, 2016 @ 8:47 am

                • “Jeff you are starting to go off in left field here, we don’t have to prove anything”

                  Yes, you do, Jim.
                  You have a dissenting view on the history involved.

                  Ok, I’m fine with that. You don’t think the gas chambers worked in the way described, fine. You think the Reinhard Camps were transit camps, OK.
                  This is your right. I disagree with Holocaust Denial Laws on principle, I think people have the right to express themselves, even if what they say matches no known reality.
                  But, if you want people to take you seriously you have to show them all of it, not just making fun of survivors. Show me what happened to the Jews transited through the Reinhard Camps. Show me what happened to the Hungarian Jews.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 10:04 am

                • “By the same logic 14 million Germans disappeared from Pomerania and East Prussia between 1940 and 1945 ; they must have all been exterminated.”

                  I’ll reiterate the obvious for you again, Peter.
                  The numbers of Jews sent to the Reinhard Camps are very specific, along with the timetable involved.
                  There are no exit points or destinations for these Jews. The camps are too small (obviously) to handle the amount of people sent there.
                  So, if you tell me that these were transit camps you need to show me where they went, otherwise you simply have no argument.

                  “you will find many elderly Hungarian Jews in Florida, Melbourne and Los Angeles. one of my teachers at school was a “Holocaust survivor ” from Hungary.”

                  Saying that the Holocaust didn’t happen because people survived is a lame argument, Peter.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 10, 2016 @ 9:48 am

          • Jeff – you describe Chelmno as a “death camp”. But how many died there, and have any human remains ever been found? Please could you point us in the direction of the official report that details not only the investigation that took place to ascertain the numbers who perished at Chelmno, but also the thorough forensic examination of the remains.

            Comment by Talbot — May 11, 2016 @ 1:48 pm

            • You wrote: “Please could you point us in the direction of the official report that details not only the investigation that took place to ascertain the numbers who perished at Chelmno, but also the thorough forensic examination of the remains.

              I wrote about Chelmno on my website on these two pages:

              http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Chelmno/history.html

              http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Chelmno/Tour01.html

              The two web pages above were written by me before I became a Holocaust denier.

              Comment by furtherglory — May 11, 2016 @ 2:01 pm

              • Thanks for producing those two web pages, FG.

                I did note from the photos that the various memorials at Chelmno were in a dilapidated state – which speaks volumes to me!. If there were really hundreds of thousands of human remains buried in the vicinity, then these would be kept in an immaculate condition by the Polish authorities or Jewish organisations.

                Soon after the war, the Poles obviously built a hideous great structure on concrete stilts at Chelmno, which is described as a “mausoleum” – but what it symbolises or contains I have no idea at all. Much of the wording has peeled off the walls, and it just looks like a typical abominable piece of Polish communist architecture.

                You also wrote the following paragraph about the numbers allegedly killed there;-

                “The text on the Memorial stone in the photo above says that about 350,000 Jews – Men, women and children – were murdered at Chelmno. Martin Gilbert wrote in his book, entitled “Holocaust,” that 360,000 Jews were killed at Chelmno just in the first phase of the killing, between December 7, 1941 and March 1943. The US Holocaust Memorial Museum says that “at least 152,000” Jews were killed at Chelmno. The Museum at the villa in Wannsee, near Berlin, says that “152,000 Jews and 5,000 Gypsies” were killed at Chelmno.”

                So – just like Majdanek and Auschwitz – the numbers have been drastically reduced over the decades – proving once again that the original investigations into these alleged “death camps” was – if you will pardon the expression – pure crap!

                Comment by Talbot — May 11, 2016 @ 2:40 pm

            • This is a copy of the report the Poles made after the war.

              http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/chelmno/report.html

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 4:11 pm

              • I got a couple questions about that report. Why did they say,they were constantly having to overhaul the engines. Why? Just because they were being used as the main component of the gas house on wheels don’t make sense for them having to overhaul them. It’s impossible to say,that’s why overhauled them. So. The engines were constantly running. Big deal. After I have my fall and spring production sales,I deliver all my seed stock cattle to my buyers. I deliver as far north as Montana and over to the eastern seaboard to Georgia and South Carolina . It usually takes me 5 days to a week to get my stock to all my buyers. That’s hard running on my truck. It don’t shut down till I’m back home. I don’t have to constantly overhaul the engine. When the Alaska Pipeline was being built,they didn’t shut the trucks down that were in below zero weather all the time. They ran longer and harder than my truck . They didn’t have to keep rebuilding their engines. It said in the report that the driver of the vehicle kept a “gas mask” in the cab of the truck. Why? The report said the trailer body that acted as the gas house on the truck,was air tight. So why would the driver need a gas mask? If the van was built air tight like they said,the could kick back in the cab and drink a beer while the Jews are being gassed. What about the people that did the maintenance on these trucks. They ever drag their ass into court. I ask that because they have such a hardon for prosecuting even people that had the slightest involvement with the holo. They put a case on a prison bookkeeper ( which is totally ludicrous),so why not put a case on the mechanics that work on these trucks. None of that makes good sense. I found another thing interesting about that article. It said at the end of the war,the poles building a case against the nazis was priority one. I don’t know about anyone else,but at wars end I’m more worried about rebuilding my country. Putting a case in the nazis is gonna be put to the side.

                Comment by Tim — May 12, 2016 @ 5:47 am

            • Investigations regarding mass graves, not only at Chelmno but other camps.

              http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2010/05/mass-graves-at-nazi-extermination-camps.html?m=1

              Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 4:13 pm

              • Jeff I went through the article it’s laughable again they talk about gassing but they don’t really show how it was done they just throw out numbers like the water next time show me an article that really shows how they did it how the process worked they’re not presenting anything that shows at work they just saying it worked with no evidence at all.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — May 11, 2016 @ 4:24 pm

              • Well, I’m still none the wiser how many perished at Chelmno. Is it around 150,000; or is it closer to 360,000. This is a totally ridiculous situation for the world to accept. We are always being told that the Nazis kept perfect records of everything they did. How can it be that there is this vast discrepancy of 200,000 people being killed there.

                The Investigations allegedly carried out at Chelmno are – quite frankly – not good enough to be accepted as conclusive evidence. According to the “Holocaust Controversies” website there were two investigations; the first carried out in 1945 by one of these obscure Polish judges whose work was not even included in the official report about Chelmno issued by the Central Commission of German Crimes in Poland. Thus, nobody knows to this very day what the extent of his investigations were, nor what – if anything – he actually found there ( bless him! )

                The HC website does not actually state who carried out the second investigation between the years 2000 and 2004, so their credentials in archaeological work cannot be verified. In between these dates there were attempts to tidy up the area during the early 1960’s, but the website claims;- “Unfortunately, these actions often caused irreversible damage, obliterating the traces of the barbarian acts committed there”. Well, if that’s the case, then these later investigations at the Chelmno site are not going to be of much value in proving that mass killings took place there.

                But I persevered, and read this second report, but of course, its full of words and phrases like “apparently”, “presumably”, “most likely”, “may confirm”. “must have”, “may provide”, “it seems very likely”, “considerable doubts”, “possibly”, “difficult to be unambiguously explained”, “seem to indicate”, “was probably”, “suggests”, “may indicate”, “it is unknown”, “perhaps”, “it appears”, “presumed location”.

                No – I’m afraid this isn’t convincing at all. Me still thinks that Chelmno was a transit camp, and these gas vans are just figments of people’s imaginations!

                Comment by Talbot — May 11, 2016 @ 6:11 pm

                • Perhaps this will help, Talbot.

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20150325081826/http://holocaust-history.org/19420605-rauff-spezialwagen/

                  This is a German document about the gas vans.

                  Naturally, if you actually have some type of proof that Chelmno was a transit camp I’m always happy to read it.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 6:34 pm

                • I’m sure Fritz Berg at Nazigassings.com would have plenty to say about the “gas” Vans.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 11, 2016 @ 6:40 pm

                • I’m sure he would. I know I’ll laugh myself silly if he did.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 7:35 pm

                • Jeff you do understand that the people that you believe as telling the truth are not telling you how the gas chambers worked what was involved with these gases they just say people were gassed blah blah blah please explain how it was done you just don’t sprinkle zyklon B on the top of someone’s head and it falls on the ground and they die it doesn’t work that way.
                  It’s a very complex process not magic.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 11, 2016 @ 7:58 pm

                • “The normal capacity of the vans is nine to ten per square meter”. Good grief – is the author of this document seriously telling us that you can squeeze 9 or 10 human beings into a space of one square metre!

                  He also says that he had three vans which were able to “process ninety-seven thousand” without the vehicles suffering any difficulties. Even though one of the vans blew-up!

                  Looks a very dodgy document to me. Regardless of whether he’s talking in euphemisms or not.

                  Comment by Talbot — May 11, 2016 @ 7:10 pm

                • ““The normal capacity of the vans is nine to ten per square meter”. Good grief – is the author of this document seriously telling us that you can squeeze 9 or 10 human beings into a space of one square metre!”

                  You can if you don’t give a crap about their safety or comfort.

                  “He also says that he had three vans which were able to “process ninety-seven thousand” without the vehicles suffering any difficulties. Even though one of the vans blew-up!”

                  You missed the part where the author discusses the difficulties and how they overcame them.

                  “Looks a very dodgy document to me. Regardless of whether he’s talking in euphemisms or not.”

                  In other words, Talbot, this document doesn’t fit your new world view so you dismiss it.

                  Very well then, Talbot. Prove Chelmno was a transit camp.
                  At least 145,000 Jews went there up to December 31st, 1942. Plus, you have to tack on 7000 when the Nazis eliminated the Lodz Ghetto in 1944. So, 152,000 Jews (at least) allegedly “transited” through the “Chelmno transit camp.”

                  Show me where they went.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 7:44 pm

                • The Gas Van document that Jeff K. referred to is a FAKE. Many years ago Ingrid Weckert discovered a perfectly innocuous genuine German document with NO criminal implications or suggestions with the same number of numbered paragraphs discussing technical features.. The fake was obviously based on that–with passages of text with homicidal intentions added to the seven paragraphs. Both documents were found in the same file folder at the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich.

                  As to diesel exhaust for mass murder, Jeff K. is totally out-of-his-mind as usual. I am sure that Jeff K. is Jewish although he denies it. Who else but a Jew could possibly be so stupid and vile. In the entire history of diesel use since 1900 there are ONLY two known instances outside the Soviet Union where diesel exhaust was ever believed to have killed anyone based on any serious forensic examination or autopsy. Even those two instances are highly dubious at best. Let Jeff K. find some other instances before he accuses anyone of mass murder.with diesel exhaust. It was shabby Jewish “scholars” like Raul Hilberg and Martin Gilbert who had insisted that nearly two million Jews had been murdered with diesel exhaust at Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor. The Soviets had insisted in 1943 that diesel exhaust had been used in the alleged gas vans. The Soviets were desperate to minimize the damage done to them by the German examinations of about 20,000 massacred Polsih officers in Katyn in April of 1943–with the aid of an international team of doctors including Poles and even some Americans present.

                  Read my essay online: Diesel Gas Chambers–Ideal for Torture, Absurd for Murder

                  Friedrich Paul Berg
                  Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
                  Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
                  There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
                  http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
                  The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

                  Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 11, 2016 @ 8:19 pm

                • That puts the gas Van theory to bed I would think…LOL
                  Same goes for the ridiculous notion that diesel gas was used for mass killings.
                  What it all comes down to is the Soviet were great liars they had a try to prove something that they couldn’t prove so they just made up things and people just went along with it what can you do.
                  Most of the stuff that they said is pulled out of a hat makes no sense at all can’t be proven but they think just because it’s written on paper somewhere that it’s something that’s right. The majority of what the Soviets have presented is wrong in so many ways.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — May 11, 2016 @ 8:46 pm

                • “The Gas Van document that Jeff K. referred to is a FAKE. Many years ago Ingrid Weckert discovered a perfectly innocuous genuine German document with NO criminal implications or suggestions with the same number of numbered paragraphs discussing technical features.. The fake was obviously based on that–with passages of text with homicidal intentions added to the seven paragraphs. Both documents were found in the same file folder at the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich.”

                  The last resort of all deniers when confronted with evidence that contradicts their cozy little world:
                  Scream “Fake!!!!! Forgery!!!!!!!

                  “As to diesel exhaust for mass murder, Jeff K. is totally out-of-his-mind as usual. I am sure that Jeff K. is Jewish although he denies it. Who else but a Jew could possibly be so stupid and vile.”

                  I was raised Roman Catholic, dumbass. I’m also Irish. I don’t know many kosher leprechaun lovers.

                  “In the entire history of diesel use since 1900 there are ONLY two known instances outside the Soviet Union where diesel exhaust was ever believed to have killed anyone based on any serious forensic examination or autopsy. Even those two instances are highly dubious at best.”

                  Well, I suggested that you test out your theory on yourself. Where’s your scientific curiosity?

                  “Let Jeff K. find some other instances before he accuses anyone of mass murder.with diesel exhaust.”

                  I’ve stated that the operators said the engines were petrol engines, not Diesel engines.
                  But, you could always prove your theory that diesel exhaust is not dangerous by testing it on yourself.

                  “It was shabby Jewish “scholars” like Raul Hilberg and Martin Gilbert who had insisted that nearly two million Jews had been murdered with diesel exhaust at Treblinka, Belzec and Sobibor.”

                  Oh, well, everyone makes mistakes. For example you keep insisting I’m Jewish.

                  “The Soviets had insisted in 1943 that diesel exhaust had been used in the alleged gas vans.”

                  Considerable evidence exists that the vans were, in fact, petrol vans.

                  “The Soviets were desperate to minimize the damage done to them by the German examinations of about 20,000 massacred Polsih officers in Katyn in April of 1943–with the aid of an international team of doctors including Poles and even some Americans present.”

                  Bad Soviets!!!! Bad Poles!!!! Bad Americans!!! No dessert for the rest of the week!!!!!

                  Read my essay online: Diesel Gas Chambers–Ideal for Torture, Absurd for Murder

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 8:48 pm

                • Well, Jeff K. the Irish are NOT that bright either. The ones I have known actually believe they benefit from “eating the body of Christ” and “drinking his blood” in church. That is so disgusting–you might just as well be Jewish! If you haven’t already had that little operation, you might as well have it done and be a full-fledged kike.

                  As to trying diesel exhaust on myself, I have done that many times and it is easy for me since I have been driving diesel cars for more than twenty-five years. Anyone can fill their garage with diesel exhaust and enter with NO ill effects whatever. The one danger, however, occurs from the temperatures of diesel exhaust which, if there is enough of the exhaust present, may raise the temperature of the chamber to nearly 200 degrees Fahrenheit (the tailpipe temperature) which will kill anyone. But that is far from what has ever been alleged. Jeff K. has obviously not read my essay or much of anything that has no Kosher label on it. It was the Soviets in 1943 who had insisted that the gas vans had DIESEL engines. Jeff K. is simply LYING when he claims there is a “considerable evidence” that ever claimed otherwise. Shame on Jeff K. once again.

                  Friedrich Paul Berg
                  Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
                  Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
                  There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
                  http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
                  The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

                  Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — May 11, 2016 @ 10:22 pm

                • “Well, Jeff K. the Irish are NOT that bright either. The ones I have known actually believe they benefit from “eating the body of Christ” and “drinking his blood” in church.”

                  You literally can’t stop yourself from saying stupid, racist bullshit.
                  It’s called faith, jackass.

                  http://www.justforcatholics.org/a34.htm

                  “That is so disgusting–you might just as well be Jewish!”

                  You know, I generally try and keep things somewhat polite. I can be salty but I generally let people insult me first before I reply in kind. Much of what I say is actually sarcastic or mocking but a lot of it is me screwing around with people.
                  You are simply the lowest life form I’ve had the displeasure of meeting on-line. I now understand why a lot of deniers themselves don’t particularly like you.

                  “If you haven’t already had that little operation, you might as well have it done and be a full-fledged kike.”

                  You mean having my shmeckel clipped? Done and done. My wife appreciates it.
                  😜

                  “As to trying diesel exhaust on myself, I have done that many times and it is easy for me since I have been driving diesel cars for more than twenty-five years. Anyone can fill their garage with diesel exhaust and enter with NO ill effects whatever. The one danger, however, occurs from the temperatures of diesel exhaust which, if there is enough of the exhaust present, may raise the temperature of the chamber to nearly 200 degrees Fahrenheit (the tailpipe temperature) which will kill anyone. But that is far from what has ever been alleged.”

                  So Diesel exhaust IS dangerous.
                  Let me ask, did you start your vehicle and let it sit for awhile? Sit in the car in your garage?

                  “Jeff K. has obviously not read my essay or much of anything that has no Kosher label on it.”

                  See, there you go, making an ASS of yourself by ASSuming.
                  I have read some of the so-called “Holocaust Handbooks.” I’ve been to Inconvenient Histories, watched some of Jim’s videos (some of the shorter ones, I have limits), Bible Believers (that made me feel like boiling my hands afterwards) and yes, I’ve been to your website. The ego of Holocaust deniers is just unbelievable, do you honestly think that steaming pile of hot garbage you pass off as “historical revisionism” is going to flip everyone who reads it?

                  “It was the Soviets in 1943 who had insisted that the gas vans had DIESEL engines. Jeff K. is simply LYING when he claims there is a “considerable evidence” that ever claimed otherwise. Shame on Jeff K. once again.”

                  I just posted evidence to the contrary.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 6:56 am

                • There are a lot more documents on the gas vans.

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/contemporary-german-documents-on.html?m=1

                  Yes, I know.

                  Fakes!!!! Forgeries!!!!! Jewish lies!!!!!!

                  The Germans did nothing wrong during the war!!!!!! They spent the war handing out puppies and candy to orphans!!!!!!
                  They only invaded Poland to help the poor German minority!!!!! They only invaded the USSR to prevent the spread of Communism!!!!!!

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 7:11 am

                • Don’t be ridiculous Jeff, you know perfectly well that you can’t pack 9 or 10 people into that amount of space. Its physically impossible. And it stretches credulity that upwards of 30,000 human beings could be killed by exhaust fumes in an enclosed van without any serious problems resulting.

                  I freely admit that I don’t have any proof that the people who arrived in Chelmno were transferred onwards. But I’m quite certain in my own mind that they were. It stands to reason that the Soviets and the Poles after the war was over could put into the public domain what they ever wished to proclaim as fact, and withhold any information and evidence to the contrary. And this is what they proceeded to do. It was victor’s justice which prevailed – and these two nations were quite prepared to do everything in their power to paint the former German Occupiers in the worst possible light.

                  I’m quite prepared to wait until the Moscow Archives of WW2 are fully released and analysed before I even consider changing my mind back to my former beliefs about this “holocaust” ( a name incidentally which only came into vogue around about 1970. When I was growing up, “a holocaust” was what happened when a large factory was engulfed in flames, and many of the workers were killed in the conflagration.)

                  Comment by Talbot — May 11, 2016 @ 8:37 pm

                • “Don’t be ridiculous Jeff, you know perfectly well that you can’t pack 9 or 10 people into that amount of space. Its physically impossible. And it stretches credulity that upwards of 30,000 human beings could be killed by exhaust fumes in an enclosed van without any serious problems resulting.”

                  Why not? We are talking about malnourished individuals including women and children.
                  I’ll refer you back to the document, the author plainly describes the problems encountered and what was done to fix them.

                  “I freely admit that I don’t have any proof that the people who arrived in Chelmno were transferred onwards. But I’m quite certain in my own mind that they were.”

                  You are certain? With no proof?

                  “It stands to reason that the Soviets and the Poles after the war was over could put into the public domain what they ever wished to proclaim as fact, and withhold any information and evidence to the contrary. And this is what they proceeded to do. It was victor’s justice which prevailed – and these two nations were quite prepared to do everything in their power to paint the former German Occupiers in the worst possible light.”

                  They didn’t have to try that hard. The Germans left a mess.

                  “I’m quite prepared to wait until the Moscow Archives of WW2 are fully released and analysed before I even consider changing my mind back to my former beliefs about this “holocaust” ( a name incidentally which only came into vogue around about 1970. When I was growing up, “a holocaust” was what happened when a large factory was engulfed in flames, and many of the workers were killed in the conflagration.)”

                  I prefer “Judeocide.” That’s what Arno Mayer calls it.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 11, 2016 @ 8:56 pm

                • You outta see how many wetbacks coyotes can pack into their vehicles when they smuggle them across the border.

                  Comment by Tim — May 12, 2016 @ 6:05 am

                • My point exactly.
                  Tim, I just read your post on overhauling the vans. One of the issues is the exhaust fed into the cab, which builds up pressure that fouls up the exhaust pipe. They solved that by cutting slits into the cab and putting flaps to manually relieve the pressure. It also seemed to me that the vans had mechanical issues, I don’t know if this was related to the “cargo” they carried.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 7:03 am

                • Why did they wait till the 21st century to have an investigation? I’m not sure of the specifics of the investigatin, but wouldn’t waiting all this time to do the investigation,make it hard to get exact details?

                  Comment by Tim — May 12, 2016 @ 5:56 am

                • You’ve asked a good question there, Tim – “why did they wait until the 21st century before carrying out an investigation.”

                  Back at the end of WW2, there was no real attempt to carry out a thorough forensic examination at any of these alleged “death camp” sites. All that that took place was a propaganda exercise carried out by the Soviets and Poles designed to convince the world that the Germans were carrying out mass exterminations.

                  The holocaust proponents then sat back on their laurels, and were quite content to live with these conclusions for the next forty years or so. But beginning in the mid-1980’s with the Zundel trials in Canada, serious revisionist investigators and scholars began to question the narrative, and by the end of the 20th century, the holocaust “industry” was becoming so concerned that revisionist ideals might start to prevail among the general public, that they started flapping around like headless chickens.

                  So what they did, was to send some paid stooges to each of the Rheinhardt camps, plus Chelmno, to start fiddling and farting around, in order to pretend that at long last a serious forensic examination was being carried out at each of these sites. The aim was to “prove” that there were mass graves full of human ashes and crushed bones there.

                  The final reports from Belzec and Chelmno are so risible in content, that no sensible person would take them seriously. From what I understand, the work is still ongoing at Sobibor, while the only report existing from Treblinka is a discredited one carried out by Caroline Sturdy-Colls from Cambridge University.

                  Comment by Talbot — May 12, 2016 @ 7:03 am

                • “So what they did, was to send some paid stooges to each of the Rheinhardt camps, plus Chelmno, to start fiddling and farting around, in order to pretend that at long last a serious forensic examination was being carried out at each of these sites. The aim was to “prove” that there were mass graves full of human ashes and crushed bones there.”

                  Well, something happened to those Jews sent to those camps, Talbot.
                  Anytime you have evidence of any sort of where these Jews went you let us know.

                  But they didn’t wind up in the Soviet Union. Some time ago you brought up Rudenko’s statement at Nuremberg, you know, the one about the Red Army finding a camp with 33,000 people in it. We had some discussion at that point about whether or not they were Jews, or foreigners. Hermie contends that of course they were foreigners.

                  In fact they were local Soviet citizens:

                  “”On 19 March 1944 advancing Red Army units discovered, near the settlement of Osaritchi in the region of Polesskoy in the Bielorussian S.S.R., within the limits of German defense lines, three concentration camps in which there were over 33,000 children, women, and old men incapable of work.”

                  I interrupt my quotation, and I omit one paragraph.

                  “The camps were really open squares surrounded by barbed wire. The approaches to them were mined. There were no buildings whatever even of the most insignificant type in the camp grounds.”

                  I call the Tribunal’s attention to the fact that all this happened in March, in Bielorussia, when it is really very cold there.

                  “The inmates were sitting on the ground. Many of them had lost their ability to move and were lying unconscious in the mud. It was forbidden to the inmates to build fires, to gather brush or branches for bedding. The Hitlerites shot Soviet people for the slightest attempt to violate this order.

                  “For concentration camps close to the nearest line of defense, the Germans, in the first place, selected sites in such places where they did not hope to retain their position. Secondly, they concentrated large masses of Soviet people in the camps, placing there primarily women, children, and old men unable to work. Thirdly, they placed in these camps thousands of typhus patients who were brought from various temporarily occupied regions of the Bielorussian S.S.R., especially for this purpose. They were kept together with the starved, weak inmates who no longer could serve as labor and who were living there under the most unhygienic conditions.”

                  The key is that Rudenko said Soviet citizens in his statement, not foreigners.

                  Here is the relevant document:

                  http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/02-19-46.asp

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 7:23 am

                • Rudenko said: “For concentration camps close to the nearest line of defense, the Germans, in the first place, selected sites in such places where they did not hope to retain their position. Secondly, they concentrated large masses of Soviet people in the camps, placing there primarily women, children, and old men unable to work. Thirdly, they placed in these camps thousands of typhus patients who were brought from various temporarily occupied regions of the Bielorussian S.S.R., especially for this purpose. They were kept together with the starved, weak inmates who no longer could serve as labor and who were living there under the most unhygienic conditions.”

                  Probably the most grotesque story ever made up an told. Those Bolsheviks were really 1st-class morons. Superstitious Mujiks in street clothing. How childish…

                  Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 8:44 am

                • Rudenko said: “For concentration camps close to the nearest line of defense, the Germans, in the first place, selected sites in such places where they did not hope to retain their position. Secondly, they concentrated large masses of Soviet people in the camps, placing there primarily women, children, and old men unable to work. Thirdly, they placed in these camps thousands of typhus patients who were brought from various temporarily occupied regions of the Bielorussian S.S.R., especially for this purpose. They were kept together with the starved, weak inmates who no longer could serve as labor and who were living there under the most unhygienic conditions.”

                  “Probably the most grotesque story ever made up an told. Those Bolsheviks were really 1st-class morons. Superstitious Mujiks in street clothing. How childish…”

                  Yet you used his statement about the 33,000 people in the camps to make your point.
                  What does that make you?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 9:17 am

                • Jeff writes;- “But they didn’t wind up in the Soviet Union.”

                  But you don’t that know for certain. The Soviets were notorious liars and deceivers ( look at Katyn for example ). Plus the fact that the Soviet Union was an enormous country that was spread over two continents. Such a vast territory could easily absorb between 1.5 and 2.5 million deportees from Poland – especially when so many Soviet citizens had lost their lives in the war itself. These people could well have finished up scattered far and wide in the Soviet Asian republics, or in towns and cities ( that we’ve barely heard of in the west ) in the plains either side of the Urals.

                  You continue;- “Some time ago you brought up Rudenko’s statement at Nuremberg, you know, the one about the Red Army finding a camp with 33,000 people in it.” ( note that mystical number 33 again – it always keeps popping up! ). “For concentration camps close to the nearest line of defense, the Germans, in the first place, selected sites in such places where they did not hope to retain their position. Secondly, they concentrated large masses of Soviet people in the camps, placing there primarily women, children, and old men unable to work. Thirdly, they placed in these camps thousands of typhus patients who were brought from various temporarily occupied regions of the Bielorussian S.S.R…”

                  “The key is that Rudenko said Soviet citizens in his statement, not foreigners”.

                  You’re quite right he says Soviet citizens – but Rudenko may well have been instructed by his political masters in Moscow not to mention foreign deportees brought in from the west, because Soviet policy was to construct the concept of extermination camps inside Poland – and thus the last thing they wanted comrade Rudenko to blurt out at the IMT was that large numbers of these camp inmates were foreigners.

                  But his statement about ” large masses of Soviet people in the camps, placing there PRIMARILY women, children and old men unable to work” gives us a clue that these inmates might well have been Jews transported initially through the Rheinhardt camps.

                  I suggest that further investigation is required of what actually happened in the Occupied territories of the Soviet Union.

                  Comment by Talbot — May 12, 2016 @ 9:03 am

                • “But you don’t that know for certain. The Soviets were notorious liars and deceivers ( look at Katyn for example ).”

                  Yet you and Hermie chose to use the statement of a “notorious liar and deceiver” to make your point about Jews in the Soviet Union.

                  “Plus the fact that the Soviet Union was an enormous country that was spread over two continents. Such a vast territory could easily absorb between 1.5 and 2.5 million deportees from Poland – especially when so many Soviet citizens had lost their lives in the war itself. These people could well have finished up scattered far and wide in the Soviet Asian republics, or in towns and cities ( that we’ve barely heard of in the west ) in the plains either side of the Urals.”

                  Sure. But you have no proof. The timetable also works against you, plus the fact that a powerful Gauleiter refused to take any additional transports just as these mass deportations were ramping up.

                  You continue;- “Some time ago you brought up Rudenko’s statement at Nuremberg, you know, the one about the Red Army finding a camp with 33,000 people in it.” “( note that mystical number 33 again – it always keeps popping up! ).”

                  Please spare me the numerology crap, please. I live in the real world.

                  “For concentration camps close to the nearest line of defense, the Germans, in the first place, selected sites in such places where they did not hope to retain their position. Secondly, they concentrated large masses of Soviet people in the camps, placing there primarily women, children, and old men unable to work. Thirdly, they placed in these camps thousands of typhus patients who were brought from various temporarily occupied regions of the Bielorussian S.S.R…”

                  “The key is that Rudenko said Soviet citizens in his statement, not foreigners”.

                  “You’re quite right he says Soviet citizens – but Rudenko may well have been instructed by his political masters in Moscow not to mention foreign deportees brought in from the west,”

                  Conjecture on your part. You do that frequently. You don’t have any proof.
                  Plus, you were quite willing to use his statement when it made your point but now you want to drop it.
                  Why?

                  “because Soviet policy was to construct the concept of extermination camps inside Poland – and thus the last thing they wanted comrade Rudenko to blurt out at the IMT was that large numbers of these camp inmates were foreigners.”

                  Again, all conjecture with no proof. You have no proof that this was Soviet policy, you are simply twisting the narrative to fit denier mythology.
                  If what you are saying is true, why bother to bring it up at all?

                  “But his statement about ” large masses of Soviet people in the camps, placing there PRIMARILY women, children and old men unable to work” gives us a clue that these inmates might well have been Jews transported initially through the Rheinhardt camps.”

                  No, it does not. Again, you are trying to twist the narrative to fit denier mythology.
                  Rudenko plainly states that this camp was in Belorussia. He plainly states these are Soviet citizens. If the Soviets wanted to hide something, why bother to say anything about any “camps?” There were no Western investigators in the Soviet Union. The Soviets could say what they liked, who could contradict them?

                  “I suggest that further investigation is required of what actually happened in the Occupied territories of the Soviet Union.”

                  Well, plan your next vacation accordingly, then. Let me know what you find.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 9:35 am

                • I wrote about the Jews being transported into the Soviet Union on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/03/25/the-trains-that-traveled-west-to-treblinka/

                  A few minutes ago, I saw an ad for donations to the elderly Jews LIVING IN RUSSIA, who are Holocaust survivors. Are these the survivors of the Holocaust who were sent into Russia?

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 12, 2016 @ 10:24 am

                • Why the hell would I want to donate to elderly Jews living in ruskie paradise? Tell Russia to get off their fat ass and take care of them. Hey I heard last month,Russia added 153 nukes to their arsenals. Clearly they got money. F–k the Russian Jews . We’ve got seniors in this country living at or below the poverty line. Sorry folks. The American seniors come first.

                  Comment by Tim — May 14, 2016 @ 10:01 am

                • When you get round to visiting Auschwitz on your next vacation, Jeff, could you begin a search for the remains of the 1.1 million human beings who were allegedly murdered there. Because for some curious reason no one has ever bothered to carry out a search. And being such a zealot for the cause of holocaustianity, you would be the ideal person to organise such a worthwhile hunt.

                  Don’t forget, there are over 30,000,000 individual teeth lying somewhere-or-other in the vicinity. So good luck – and let us know how got on upon your return.

                  Comment by Talbot — May 12, 2016 @ 10:14 am

                • “When you get round to visiting Auschwitz on your next vacation, Jeff, could you begin a search for the remains of the 1.1 million human beings who were allegedly murdered there. Because for some curious reason no one has ever bothered to carry out a search.”

                  Well, considering those bodies were cremated there’s not a whole lot to find.

                  “And being such a zealot for the cause of holocaustianity, you would be the ideal person to organise such a worthwhile hunt.”

                  And you being such an enthusiastic purveyor of the denier mythology is an ideal hunter for the Jews you say were deported elsewhere.

                  “Don’t forget, there are over 30,000,000 individual teeth lying somewhere-or-other in the vicinity. So good luck – and let us know how got on upon your return.”

                  I’ll tell you what, Talbot. When I get the time do so I will.
                  But, since you live so much closer to the scene of the crimes feel free to get cracking on the trail of the deported Jews.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 10:38 am

                • You wrote: “Well, considering those bodies were cremated there’s not a whole lot to find.”

                  I did some searching for the ashes at Birkenau and I wrote about it on this blog post:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/06/27/where-are-the-ashes-of-the-1-1-million-people-killed-at-auschwitz-birkenau/

                  Comment by furtherglory — May 12, 2016 @ 10:53 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Yet you used his statement about the 33,000 people in the camps to make your point.”

                  I used Rudenko’s statement in a perspective of pure speculation. Just for fun. As a brain game. Always keeping in mind that I don’t need to prove where people Holohoaxsters have been unable to prove dead, did or didn’t go during and after the war. Unsurprisingly, I hadn’t suddenly forgotten the non-probative value of statements and testimonies such as Rudenko’s statement at Nuremberg, and who bears the burden of proof in the murder cases of a normal world.

                  Jeff wrote: “What does that make you?”

                  The idea of Germans building camps only to hold harmless local women, kids and elders and then bringing in contagious people in order to kill those people with typhus as a bioweapon, made me laugh a lot. The Soviet stories are always such a good laugh…

                  Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 5:23 pm

                • Ok.

                  I’m done for a bit, Hermie. See ya.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — May 12, 2016 @ 5:53 pm

                • See you later, Jeff.

                  Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 7:33 pm

                • Talbot wrote: “these gas vans are just figments of people’s imaginations!”

                  Probably based on the real German special delousing vans driving along the roads of Eastern Europe during the war.

                  Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 7:43 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “The last resort of all deniers when confronted with evidence that contradicts their cozy little world: Scream “Fake!!!!! Forgery!!!!!!! ”

                  And the typical Pavlovian response of all Holo-conspiracists (aka Holocaust believers) when confronted with the debunking of the farcical ‘evidence’ supporting their dear Holo-faith: A disdainful ‘rebuttal’ by claiming “Hey, those haters were not labelled ‘deniers’ [by ourselves] for nothing!’ and by doing nothing to even try to demonstrate the authenticity and reliability of their ‘evidence’ under attack with any kind of real arguments. In other words, they just shoot the messenger(s) because they can’t contradict the message with facts and arguments worthy of the 21st century. The age-old struggle of Obscurantists vs. Heretics…

                  Comment by hermie — May 14, 2016 @ 7:55 pm

    • You wrote: “If these people would sentt here just to be killed why would they cut their hair it would make no sense at all.”

      Back in those days, no one shaved their head. But if they got lice, people had to shave their head, which was considered to be very shameful because this told everyone that you had lice. If you had lice, you had to stay home from school until your hair grew out and there was no more lice on your head. So the Jews felt very bad about having their heads shaved. This was literally the worst thing that could happen to them.

      Comment by furtherglory — May 9, 2016 @ 8:25 am

      • So the Jews felt very bad about having their heads shaved. This was literally the worst thing that could happen to them.

        Yes! I remember the Jews that got back to Holland (and there were quite a few in my class) telling me that this was one of the worst things that happened to them. The camp itself was fine.

        Comment by Dr Kim — May 9, 2016 @ 2:56 pm

      • Jim rizoli wrote: “If these people would sentt here just to be killed why would they cut their hair it would make no sense at all.”

        It’s true that this story of Jewish hair almost more valuable than Mink Fur was less laughable with the story of “zee evil natzeeez turned our bodiiz into soap and fertilizer and our skinz into artifacts like lampshades, handbags, wallets and book covers” still vivid and prévalent within the Holocaust mythology. All alone, it is indeed quite grotesque, if not pathetic, and nonsensical…

        Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 5:42 pm

  13. I understand that this Dr. Mengele must have been an extremely busy man. Never a quiet moment. He is everywhere. No survivor or she/he has met Dr. Mengele!

    Comment by dr kim — May 9, 2016 @ 7:50 am

    • And despite that, Mengele was captured by American troops in 1945, used his real name in US custody, and was nevertheless released by Uncle Sam after a few months. The current horror tales of Holo-survivors systematically meeting the terrible ‘Angel of Death’ and suffering in his hands, had patently not yet formed at that time. Later inventions…

      Comment by hermie — May 12, 2016 @ 5:54 pm

      • If we had Joe for that period of time,I don’t see how anyone could’ve kept quiet about it. If he did everything they said he did,why didn’t they put a case on him while he was in custody?prosecution would be climaxing and having multiple orgasms. So if we cut his ass loose,it was clearly for lack of any evidence of breaking the law. So why did the Jews go apeshit trying to track him down? They managed to capture all these other top dogs. Why was it so hard to nab Joe? Sounds like they were being spiteful. The Jews seem to catch everyone they go after. Are we to believe Joe is the proverbial,”one that got away”

        Comment by Tim — May 13, 2016 @ 5:04 am

        • You wrote: “If we had Joe [Dr. Joseph Mengele] for that period of time,I don’t see how anyone could’ve kept quiet about it. If he did everything they said he did,why didn’t they put a case on him while he was in custody?”
          I wrote abut Dr. Mengele on several blog posts, including this one:
          https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/08/26/bill-oreilly-educated-his-3-million-viewers-last-night-about-mengele-the-notorious-nazi-doctor/

          Comment by furtherglory — May 13, 2016 @ 6:45 am

        • Tim wrote: ” If he did everything they said he did,why didn’t they put a case on him while he was in custody?”

          And why did he use his real name in the first place? Had he personally sent hundreds of thousands of Jews to gas chambers and performed ghastly experiments on numerous others, I think it’s clear he would have introduced himself as Solomon Golstein, Kurt Wolff or any other name but Joseph Mengele when he fell in US hands. But he didn’t do that. He just acted as an innocent man not fearing his gaolers at all.

          Tim wrote: “So if we cut his ass loose,it was clearly for lack of any evidence of breaking the law.”

          It would have been a breeze to get some IMT-mock-trials-styled testimonial ‘evidence’ from a few DP Jews within a few minutes or hours. But if the alleged misdeeds of Mengele were not yet part of the Holocaust mythology, there was of course no good reason to collect such pieces of ‘evidence’ against POW Joseph Mengele at that time.

          Tim wrote: “So why did the Jews go apeshit trying to track him down? They managed to capture all these other top dogs. Why was it so hard to nab Joe? Sounds like they were being spiteful. The Jews seem to catch everyone they go after. Are we to believe Joe is the proverbial,”one that got away””

          According to the official narrative, some Mossad agents found Mengele in South America after the war but finally left him untouched because they rather opted for the capture of Eichmann instead of Mengele. I fail to see why they didn’t just capture both of them. But the Big H and its surroundings are full of holes anyway. A hole more or a hole less changes nothing…

          Comment by hermie — May 13, 2016 @ 8:00 am

          • My point exactly. Mossad supposed to be such bad asses,why didn’t they just get both? That would be like the DEA arresting Pablo Escobar,but ignoring Carlos Lehder. If he did what they say he did,people would be screaming to the high heavens,demanding justice. You don’t let someone that big go……unless you don’t have shit on them. Even if they had accusations,they still have to back them up. “He said,she said”. That shit don’t fly as evidence. None of this shit jives at all. I saw something on tv . The last remaining “Ovitz” midget was on there. I don’t recall her saying anything damning about Joe. If he did pull the shit they say he did,I imagine this gal would’ve been spilling the beans left and right. She was saying Joe enjoyed having the Ovitz family around. He thought they were kick ass entertainers.

            Comment by Tim — May 13, 2016 @ 8:31 am

            • I wrote about Dr. Mengele and the family of dwarfs on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/new-book-about-the-ovitz-family-of-dwarfs/

              Comment by furtherglory — May 13, 2016 @ 8:43 am

              • Okay. I saw a picture of the deformed gentleman at Auschwitz. Where are the pics of the Ovitz family members. U figure if Joe was doing all these ghastly experiments on them,he’d wanna have it documented through photographs. Well it was said they were his prized subjects. So I figure he’d wanna go to great lengths to document his subjects. Like I said I saw the last remaining Ovitz on a tv show . She didn’t speak all that bad about Joe. She said he liked them because of their entertainment value. I asked a question before,but never got an answer. Do the Jews even acknowledge the inmates that were subjected to pressure chambers and extremes of temperatures? That I would pretty much believe happened. They did the test on these subjects so they would know what would happen to their pilots in certain scenarios. I mean there was a war going on. It just seems to me,Joe would be more interested in those kind of experiments. It would be contributing to the war effort. I know I’ve read that the results of those experiments helped get us to the moon. As long as I’ve mentioned the moon,our government is hypocritical as hell. Von Braun. Was there not slave labor building his V2 rockets? They nailed other folks for that shit. Why not put a case on him? Yeah I know. He gave us all his secrets and we turned a blind eye. He helped get us to the moon before the ruskies. Everytme I see this picture of him and JFK at the Kennedy space center,they look like a couple ol friends. Von Braun is pointing at something as if he’s explaining to JFK what it is. It’s kinda like I’m thinking at the end of their meeting JFK probably said,”hey. Why don’t you and the mrs. come over for Sunday dinner with me Jackie and the kids. It’s like we ran a few nazis through the courts and that was it. That’s the kinda shit that gets me to questioning some of the stuff that pops up with the holo. I’ve no doubt some of the shit probably happened. It was a war . Bad shit happens,but some of these claims just seem to be a bit too outrageous after looking at them a bit closer

                Comment by Tim — May 13, 2016 @ 3:42 pm

                • Tim wrote: ” at the end of their meeting JFK probably said,”hey. Why don’t you and the mrs. come over for Sunday dinner with me Jackie and the kids. It’s like we ran a few nazis through the courts and that was it. That’s the kinda shit that gets me to questioning some of the stuff that pops up with the holo.”

                  I think JFK didn’t believe in the Holo-crap.

                  Tim wrote: “It’s like we ran a few nazis through the courts and that was it. That’s the kinda shit that gets me to questioning some of the stuff that pops up with the holo.”

                  That was enough to show everybody who had been the good guys and the bad guys of WW2, the least a regime could do after claiming for years it was bleeding its youth for nothing less than the survival of civilization itself. Victorious America couldn’t come back home without at least punishing some Teutonic [imaginary] scalp-takers. No good heroic cowboys without evil screaming bloodthirsty ‘Red Skins.’ No superhero without his supervilain…

                  Comment by hermie — May 14, 2016 @ 8:24 pm

            • Since Mengele reportedly denied firmly the Holo-charges against him, perhaps the Israelis feared that he could deny their horror stories before a court and TV cameras despite tortures, bribes and all kinds of pressure. Much easier and safer to blame anything on ‘ghosts.’ ‘Ghosts’ don’t deny absurd claims against themselves…

              Comment by hermie — May 13, 2016 @ 9:13 am

              • I can’t get the video to come up. The YouTube screen is there,but there’s a message on it that says,”an error occurred “. What’s the title for the video?

                Comment by Tim — May 13, 2016 @ 3:14 pm

                • First I got the same message but later could connect easily and was in for a big surprise as the were lots of interesting movies of football tems in the camps, children set in up plays, singing and so on, amazing

                  Comment by Dr Kim — May 13, 2016 @ 4:12 pm

                • Dr. K. I’m still getting same mssg. What’s the title of the film I put in the search box? Thanks

                  Comment by Tim — May 13, 2016 @ 4:44 pm

                • 0:10 / 1:13
                  Mengele denied performing ghastly experiments on anybody
                  Once you are you’ll find most interesting interviews with happy survivors

                  Comment by Dr Kim — May 13, 2016 @ 5:03 pm

                • Hi Tim, I suppose I should say: good morning, as it is afternoon here in Europe. I hope you found the YouTube items. I also read Mr Berg’sJews and Typphus, which is an excellent work. In the prsent times few people know any thing about typhus or tuberculosis so they are shocked to see a lot of dead people from typhus. And, remember, this is only where the camera pointed at.
                  It was much worse and everywhere

                  Comment by Dr Kim — May 14, 2016 @ 5:43 am

                • So how come nobody makes that point of fact,when the Jews start stating that all the piles of dead bodies,may quite possibly have been from disease and not from the gas house? I read something the other night about the Spanish influenza epidemic that swept the world from 1917-1918. It was on the CDC (center for disease control) website out of Atlanta,Georgia. Here’s what I can’t figure out . 50,000,000 lost souls due to the epidemic. It’s easy to figure how it spread. There was a war going on. So people were constantly moving around. Civilians and soldiers. People were still immigrating to the U S . Easy to see why it spread like wildfire. You can say the same thing about the prisons. Nazis are bringing everybody and their cousin in from all points in Europe . It stands to reason a lot of deaths may have occurred due to disease. So is it possible that a lot of the 6 million ( or whatever the number is today) dead prisoners actually died due to “unreported” causes? I say unreported,because you said not that much was known as far as typhus and other diseases were concerned. I’ve asked this before. What about rodent control? Rodents spreading the bubonic plague go all the way back to the Byzantine Empire. So who’s to say a lot of these deaths may not have occurred through rodents. That would make perfect sense as to why the bodies were burned. Some people would ask why the prison guards weren’t effected. I can’t answer that,cause I’m not a physician. I figure it’s no more of a bizzare theory,than some of the other ones I’ve heard. I’m not saying folks weren’t murdered at these camps. Hell. It was a war. Legal or not,people will murder other people . I read a story one time about this husband and wife team that ran a prison. It said the wife would ride a horse naked through the camp. If anyone looked at her,they were shot. Pretty fantastic claim for someone to make. I saw a picture of this gal. Fell out the “ugly tree” and hit every branch on the way down. That describes her. As rigid as the Germans were when it came to their military,I just don’t see her doing that

                  Comment by Tim — May 14, 2016 @ 9:03 am

                • Perhaps this one will work better, Tim?

                  Comment by hermie — May 13, 2016 @ 11:31 pm

                • My bad. I didn’t see at the top of the video screen it said,”try watching this video on http://www.youtube.com

                  Comment by Tim — May 14, 2016 @ 9:29 am

                • That ol boy said the folks volunteered to be test subject,cause they got more food that way. That makes perfect sense

                  Comment by Tim — May 14, 2016 @ 9:42 am

                • Tim wrote: “So how come nobody makes that point of fact,when the Jews start stating that all the piles of dead bodies,may quite possibly have been from disease and not from the gas house? ”

                  Some people made/make that point. But the latter are instantly labelled ‘anti-Semites,’ ‘haters,’ ‘deniers,’ and ‘crackpots.’ So almost nobody listens to them.

                  Tim wrote: “I read something the other night about the Spanish influenza epidemic that swept the world from 1917-1918. It was on the CDC (center for disease control) website out of Atlanta,Georgia. Here’s what I can’t figure out . 50,000,000 lost souls due to the epidemic. It’s easy to figure how it spread. There was a war going on. So people were constantly moving around. Civilians and soldiers.”

                  Typhus alone had killed between 3 and 10 million in Russia during the previous world war and the following years, even making Lenin state in 1919: “Either socialism (i.e. Bolshevism) will defeat the louse (i.e. the carrier of typhus), or the louse will defeat socialism.” And it had also killed some additional millions in other European countries such as Serbia and Roumania at that time. No ‘evil Nazi concentration camps’ or alleged extermination program were needed for that. War and its consequences were enough…

                  Comment by hermie — May 14, 2016 @ 8:42 pm


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