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June 2, 2016

Where in the world is Goethe Germany?

Filed under: Buchenwald, Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 6:48 pm

Today I read a news story about an American soldier who allegedly liberated a German concentration camp named Goethe. You can read the news story at http://www.akron.com/akron-ohio-community-news.asp?aID=30852

The following quote is from the news article:

COLUMBUS [Ohio] — Sen. Frank LaRose (R-District 27) welcomed decorated World War II veteran Bill Miller, of Fairlawn, to the Ohio Statehouse to take part in the Governor’s 36th annual Holocaust Commemoration Program May 25. According to LaRose, Miller, a retired U.S. Army colonel, recounted his experience as a young soldier leading a mission to identify an unknown site outside Goethe, Germany.

The stump of Goethe's oak inside Buchenwals camp

My photo of the stump of Goethe’s oak inside the Buchenwald camp

My photo of the gate into the Buchenwald camp

My photo of the gate into the Buchenwald camp

“I had the tank knock [the gate] down,” said Miller. “When it fell, we were in a concentration camp. The guards had fled, but it was the most horrible thing I think I’ve ever seen. Bodies everywhere … we stopped counting at 800 people. We found the gas chambers, the ovens. When somebody tells you that the Holocaust didn’t happen, I stress to you I have seen these things. It did happen. I’m grateful for the opportunity to tell you my story, and I hope you will relay that story to some of your friends.”

End quote

As you can see, in my photo above, the gate in the gatehouse was not knocked down.

I have searched and searched on the Internet, and I have not found a town, nor a concentration camp named Goethe.  I am guessing that this camp was the Buchenwald camp because it was built in a location where Johann von Goethe used to sit under an oak tree. The stump of the oak tree is still in the former Buchenwald camp, which is now a memorial site.

I have a whole section about Buchenwald on my scrapbookpages.com website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/index.html

I have a sub-section about the liberation of Buchenwald at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation.html

Like most stories of the liberation of the camps by American troops, there is some controversy about what really happened.  I have written about the various claims, regarding the liberation of Buchenwald on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation4.html

On my website pages about the liberation of Buchenwald, I have written what I believe is the truth about how this camp was liberated: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation0.html

American soldiers entering Buchenwald on the day that the camp was liberated

American soldiers entering Buchenwald on the day that the camp was liberated

10 Comments »

  1. Comment by hermie — June 3, 2016 @ 9:12 am

    • I always think when they say “gas chambers and ovens” that they take the crematorium for a gas chamber too. You know how that idea that people were burned get confused with how they were killed. But it’s because the media doesn’t even try to keep any of it straight — instead they quote anything any jew or military person says with total approval.

      Comment by Carolyn Yeager — June 3, 2016 @ 9:36 pm

      • Maybe. The most confused even talk about ‘gas ovens.’😮

        They should evolve. Unlike what was done in the Western world of the 1940’s, cremation is today a quite commonplace way to deal with dead bodies. Nothing sinister in that funerary and/or sanitary practice. Old people should learn that there are ways to treat dead bodies with respect other than what is told and promoted in the Bible and the Torah. Old superstitions and habits of the past…

        Comment by hermie — June 4, 2016 @ 4:40 am

  2. Bill Miller said: “We found the gas chambers, the ovens. When somebody tells you that the Holocaust didn’t happen, I stress to you I have seen these things. It did happen.”

    Since no historian (revisionist or exterminationist) still claims today that there were gas chambers at Buchenwald, Old Bill’s statement exposes the complete non-probative value and unreliability of witness testimonies. It shows that there are in fact very good reasons to doubt and/or deny the ‘Holocaust,’ whatever some witnesses said about alleged mass murders in gas chambers and by other means. Thank you for that, Mr. Miller…😉

    Good to know that the Allies even had several German guards confess the existence and use of a homicidal gas chamber at Buchenwald under interrogation (http://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1045&sid=e44caa6150d0d30cecfe1b99d298456e), just as they did with Auschwitz, Dachau, Mauthausen, Treblinka, and so on.

    Funny debunked Holo-BS…

    Comment by hermie — June 3, 2016 @ 8:24 am

    • Thanks for putting up this video. This old guy seems like a nice old man, but then he starts telling the worst lies that I’ve ever heard. He mentions lamp shades made from human skin, which would indicate that the camp that he saw was Buchenwald. Then he tells about knocking down a WOODEN gate. Buchenwald is famous for having an IRON gate that says Jedem das Seine which means “everyone gets what he deserves.”

      He mentioned that there was a stone WALL around the camp. This does not describe Buchenwald.

      He pronounces Goethe as Go-tuh. In California, where I live, Goethe is pronounced Gay-tee. I have heard native Germans pronounce it as Ger-tuh.

      I have written several blog posts about Buchenwald, including this one:

      https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/the-liberation-of-buchenwald-at-315-p-m-on-april-11-1945/

      Comment by furtherglory — June 4, 2016 @ 6:46 am

      • Furtherglory wrote: “He mentioned that there was a stone WALL around the camp. This does not describe Buchenwald.”

        Sounds more like a depiction of Mauthausen. Perhaps Colonel Miller has just watched the mini-series “Holocaust.” I say that because the Auschwitz scenes of that mini-series were seemingly filmed at Mauthausen (I’m sure you’ll able to easily confirm or refute this claim).

        [2:30 – 6:20]

        Comment by hermie — June 4, 2016 @ 8:34 am

    • I wrote about the liberation of Buchenwald on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation0.html
      This was written before I became a Holocaust denier, so this section of my website is kosher.

      Note that the story of the liberation of Buchenwald is completely different from what he describes.

      Comment by furtherglory — June 4, 2016 @ 7:01 am

      • I also wrote about the liberation of Buchenwald on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation4.html

        Keep in mind that this was written before I became a Holocaust denier.

        This page of my website is quite long, so I will give you the ending, so that you won’t have to waste time reading it all.

        Begin quote from my scrapbookpages.com website:

        The truth is that the prisoners in the Buchenwald concentration camp liberated themselves at 3:15 on April 11, 1945 when they took over the camp, killing some of the guards while the rest of the guards fled into the nearby woods. When American soldiers in the 6th Armoured Division saw the prisoners chasing down the guards and shooting them, they followed the action to the camp. The next day, soldiers from the 80th Infantry Division arrived in Weimar, five miles from the camp, and saw prisoners roaming around the town. The soldiers followed the prisoners to the camp where they joined in as the prisoners beat to death the SS guards who had been captured.

        Comment by furtherglory — June 4, 2016 @ 7:13 am

  3. Typical Braindead American Soldier liar who got his facts wrong again. I find it hard to believe that an American Soldier can lie like this especially knowing that history shows there were no homocidal gas Chambers on German soil or any other soil.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — June 2, 2016 @ 6:53 pm

    • The greatest honor that an American soldier can have is to have liberated a Nazi camp, and to have saved Jews from the gas chamber. That’s why soldiers were brought to the camps in trucks so they could claim that they were liberators.

      Comment by furtherglory — June 2, 2016 @ 6:59 pm


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