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June 5, 2016

the Netherlands is finally getting a national Holocaust museum

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 9:06 am

The title of my blog post today is a line from a news article, which you can read in full at

The following quote is from the news article, cited above:

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AMSTERDAM — More than 70 years after tens of thousands of Dutch Jews were deported and killed by the Nazis, the Netherlands is finally getting a national Holocaust museum.


In all, 104,000 Dutch Jews were among the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust. The theater is now home to a memorial to those victims.

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The most important part of the news article comes later in this quote:

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The nine paintings on show are collectively titled “The Demise of Abraham Reiss.” They trace the life of [Jeroen] Krabbe’s grandfather, who was murdered by the Nazis in 1943 in the Sobibor death camp in occupied Poland.

From a man sitting in a forest of birch trees on the edge of Amsterdam, the paintings trace Reiss’ life in pre-war Amsterdam to his detention in the Westerbork camp in the northeastern Netherlands and his arrival at Sobibor, where he was greeted by a snarling dog and shadowy, faceless guards. The final painting shows thick smoke billowing out of the chimney of Sobibor’s gas chamber and a flock of geese, whose honking was intended to drown out the screams of Jews being murdered, according to a text accompanying one of the paintings.

The artist said he couldn’t bring himself to visit Sobibor. So instead he drew on the memories of camp survivor Jules Schelvis, who wrote a book about his experiences and built models of the camp and its gas chambers. The models are exhibited in the same room as Krabbe’s paintings.

Krabbe said he also used his acting skills to imagine how his grandfather would respond to the horrors unfolding in his life.

“I wanted to get under his skin,” Krabbe told The Associated Press. “To imagine how it would be to experience what happened to him and how he would have reacted. It was like I had to play a role.”

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Only 104,000 Dutch Jews were “murdered”? How many other Dutch Jews, including Anne Frank, died of disease, or natural causes, during the Holocaust?

It hardly seems worth it to have a national museum dedicated to only 104,000 citizens who were murdered.  Why not have a memorial to all the Dutch citizens who died during World War II, which would include Anne Frank, who died of typhus at Bergen-Belsen?

But to get back to Sobibor…..


Map of Sobibor camp

Sobibor is one of the few places, related to the Holocaust, that I have not visited.  From everything that I have read about Sobibor, I believe that it was a transit camp, from which Jews were sent to the east, never to return.

I have written several blog posts about Sobibor:

I have a section about Sobibor on my website at

Alert readers of my blog post might have noticed that the news article mentioned “thick smoke billowing out of the chimney of Sobibor’s gas chamber.”

A real gas chamber, like the one in Jefferson City, MO, is supposed to have a tall chimney to vent the gas high into the air. Did the Nazis have a gas chamber consultant, like Fred Leuchter, to advise them on the construction of the gas chamber at Sobibor?



  1. I lived in a similar house in Amsterdam so I found no need to visit the ‘achterhuis’.
    Jeroen Krabbé is actually quite good as an artist, but he also has to live. He is now about the same age as his grandfather, in his seventies. Around 1940 quite old. Just transporting him to another place might have meant his death.
    Krabbé is probably well aware that his paintings are manipulative but he will tell you that it is artistic freedom. He did also do well as an actor, even in some American movies, where he was generally cast into the role of a villan.
    I don’t remember him flaunting the fact that he was jewish before. His parents divorced and Jeroen stayed with his mother.

    This is now the 5th jewish memorial in the centre of Amsterdam. Isn’t it getting a little toomuch I wonder? Well it is in what is called Jodenkwartier = Judenviertel and there were always lots of Jews in Amsterdam. By the way this is way the nickname for Amsterdam is Groot Mokum or just Mokum. In Hebrew Maqum is just place.

    Of course many Jews were deported from Holland and most died of typhus, tuberculosis or old age.
    All those that like to have them ‘murdered’ by the Germans (that we remember best for stealing our bikes during the war) have no idea of the ravages of infectious diseases. Ask your grandparents about the Spanish Flu!

    Of the hundreds of Jews I worked with or was friends with or were my co-students or professors, non of them ever mentioned gassing. I don’t know how many there were before the war but there were again many after the war. I used to go to a jewish cabaret, where I could walk to: Li La Lo.
    It was very funny. I assume that many Jews were deported to never return but then again in many towns they managed to hide to reappear after the war. I must admit that I had a jewish fiancee. Her father thought it stupid if Jews let themselves be deported. But then, important Jews were spared although in the end even the Joodse Raad – Jewish Council had to go. Important people went to the transit camps and if you were important or clever enough you would go straight to Theresienstadt, where some managed to live a decent life. And went a little later to Switzerland on a regular train.

    Did I hear stories? Yes, mainly about the food in the camps (not the omnipresent watery soup though) and mainly about the quality or the quantity.
    Don’t forget that in the last year of the war in Holland and Germany there were plenty people dying. I remember “what could we complain about? “said a Jew the Dutch people were about as bad of as us.
    And another thing! The Dutch in the Japanese camps in the Dutch Indies were treated worse and were really tortured as the Japanese were really more sadistic than the Germans.

    I think that the number of Jews that died in the German camps that is given by the Red Cross is fairly correct.

    Comment by Dr Kim — June 7, 2016 @ 11:32 am

    • If people want to talk about a group of people that want history to be,according to them,go with the Niponese. Leave the Germans out. The Nips would have us believe they took after Samurai. That’s BS. Only a few things ( a very few) the Nips did,reflected the true Samurai. Yeah. Samurai would cut of your head and not think twice. It wasn’t done out of hate. I was just business. Samurai created some of the most beautiful art and wrote some of the best poetry. Date Masamune. One of the most feared war lords of all time. He allowed Christians to preach in his land. He believed in family to no end and respected others. WW2 Nips were so far off from being Samurai,it’s not even funny. From where I sit,the Nazis can’t be compared to the Nips. The cruelty of the Nips knew no limits

      Comment by Tim — June 15, 2016 @ 11:25 am

  2. Surely the Anne Franke house is the Jewish Holocaust memorial in Holland ? I have been there and it is frankly very disappointing .

    Comment by peter — June 5, 2016 @ 5:20 pm

    • I have been to the Anne Frank house too, and I agree that it is very disappointing.

      Comment by furtherglory — June 5, 2016 @ 5:44 pm

  3. Forget the rest. Is this a holo memorial museum or a museum for Abe Reiss? You can’t use one person to put a face on things . Why do they need a “poster child” for? If this is truly a memorial for all the Hebs,then they need to focus on the whole event. Not just one lone Jew . That shit seems a bit selfish to me. They want to make this fool a one man band

    Comment by Tim — June 5, 2016 @ 1:08 pm

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