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July 12, 2016

the 75th anniversary of a massacre of hundreds of Polish Jews by their neighbors

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 11:16 am

The following quote is from a news article which you can read in full at http://www.timesofisrael.com/poles-skip-ceremony-to-mark-holocaust-era-jewish-massacre/

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JEDWABNE, Poland (JTA) — Some 150 people attended a commemoration on the 75th anniversary of a massacre of hundreds of Polish Jews by their neighbors in the country’s northeast. Absent, however, were the non-Jewish residents of Jedwabne.

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One interesting thing, that you may not know about Jedwabne, is that Martin Zaidenstadt, an old man who used to walk around the Dachau Memorial Site, begging for money from the tourists, claimed to be from Jedwabne.

Martin Zaidenstadt claimed that he was born in 1911 in Jedwabne, a town in Poland that was the site of a pogrom in 1941 when the non-Jews in the town killed over 500 Jewish residents and blamed it on the German troops during the German invasion of the Soviet Union.

My 1997 photo of Martin Zaidenstadt

My 1997 photo of Martin Zaidenstadt

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I was told by a resident of Dachau that Martin Zaidenstadt formerly lived in this house in Dachau which has a beautiful garden in front of it.

On my third visit to the Dachau Memorial Site in May 2003, I looked for Martin Zaidenstadt, whom I had met on my first visit in May 1997, but he wasn’t there. On my second visit in May 2001, I had been told by someone in the Dachau museum that Martin still came to the camp each day to talk with the tourists, but that he had been absent for a few days.

After the Dachau concentration camp was liberated on April 29, 1945, truckloads of American soldiers arrived daily to visit the museum and see the gas chamber, on the orders of General Dwight D. Eisenhower.

When I met Martin Zaidenstadt in 1997, he told me that he had been coming to the camp every day for fifty years. That would mean that he began visiting the former concentration camp in 1947 while it was an internment camp for Nazi war criminals and the proceedings of an American Military Tribunal were in progress.

At that time, there was a small museum in the Dachau crematorium, which had been set up in 1945 by a former prisoner, Erich Preuss, and several former Dachau inmates, who were then living in the SS garrison next to the former camp, were available to tell visiting American soldiers about the atrocities committed at Dachau.

Martin allowed me to take his picture, but requested that he pose in front of the Memorial stone which is just to your right as you enter the crematoria area. Just as I snapped the shutter, he was reaching into his coat pocket for one of his cards which he gave me. The card had a rainbow on it because the camp was liberated by the 42nd Rainbow division of the US Seventh Army.

Martin told me that he had been a prisoner at Dachau for three years before the camp was liberated. That means that he arrived some time in the Spring of 1942, just after the Nazis began rounding up the Jews in February 1942 and sending them to the death camps in what is now Poland. For some unexplained reason, Zaidenstadt was sent to Dachau instead, so he escaped the gas chambers of Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec and the gas vans at Chelmno.

Martin spoke several languages, including English. He used to hang out near Baracke X, the gas chamber building, where he would tell visitors that the gas chamber was used to murder prisoners in the Dachau concentration camp, although for some unexplained reason, he managed to avoid the gas chamber for three years. On the day that I met him in 1997, I approached him because he was upset after a group of Americans had rudely brushed him off after he tried to tell them about the shower room being used as a gas chamber.

When I visited Dachau in May 1997 and again in May 2001, there was a portable sign in the gas chamber which informed tourists in five languages that the room had never been used for gassing. In May 2003, that sign had been removed and a new sign at the south end of the gas chamber building read as follows:

“Baracke X erected May 1942 to April 1943. It was to serve both as a killing facility and to remove the dead, but the gas chamber in the middle of the building was not used for mass murder. Survivors have testified that the SS did, however, murder individual prisoners and small groups here using poison gas.”

 

18 Comments »

  1. Martin Zaidenstadt

    Re an earlier blog post here — Is Martin Zaidenstadt still alive?I have seen nothing, about Martin Zaidenstadt, the famous Dachau panhandler, in the news for many years, although I have searched and searched. — Timothy Ryback is the author of the well-received book The Last Survivor: In Search of Martin Zaidenstadt — Ryback is currently Deputy Director General at the Académie Diplomatique Internationale in Paris — here is a link to the ‘Staff’ page at that institution — there you can see his email address — if you are still curious about what happened to Martin Zaidenstadt, perhaps send Timothy Ryback an email and ask him if he knows — he will probably answer, especially if you tell him you enjoyed his book.

    Comment by eah — July 13, 2016 @ 3:07 am

  2. Man!! Nobody likes em! I wonder what 6 billion people all have wrong

    Comment by Schlageter — July 12, 2016 @ 5:04 pm

    • 1.4 billion have it right? Wow

      Comment by Tim — July 12, 2016 @ 5:07 pm

  3. That sap used to panhandle? He don’t look to be in too bad of shape. What was the card he handed you out of pocket? Some kind of visiting card? Something that celebrated those fine (I’m being sarcastic in using “fine”) soldiers who liberated him? Panhandling is illegal in pretty much every state here. Jail time. Clearly it’s legal there. That makes it a bums paradise

    Comment by Tim — July 12, 2016 @ 2:12 pm

  4. The story of Martin Zaidenstadt sounds a bit fishy to me. Of all the places in Europe, he claims that he came from the infamous village of Jedwabne in Eastern Poland. And I suppose no one – either Jew or non-Jew – who was still living there after the war could stand up publicly and question his identity. In addition, Poland remained behind the Iron Curtain for over 40 years, and thus was cut off from what was happening in West Germany. How very convenient for him!. He could then safely embark upon his 50-year begging career at Dachau – far away from Poland – and safe in the knowledge that no one could challenge him.

    In the early decades he probably earned a buck-or-two, because the wartime trauma was still very real and raw; but it is interesting, that by 1997 the tourists were beginning to give him the brush-off, because of course they weren’t emotionally wrapped up in the war themselves unlike the earlier generation of visitors, and they could readily see that he was only after their money by reciting a lot of fabricated and embellished stories

    Comment by Talbot — July 12, 2016 @ 12:58 pm

    • Another Holohuxster who makes a living out of swindling people.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — July 12, 2016 @ 1:35 pm

      • You wrote: “Another Holohuxter who makes a living out of swindling people.”

        Apparently Zaidenstadt made a good living out of swindling people in Dachau. I have added a photo of the house where he allegedly lived with his family in the heart of the town of Dachau. He was married to a non-Jewish Catholic woman who was a native of Dachau. There is a possibility that Martin was not Jewish.

        Comment by furtherglory — July 12, 2016 @ 3:56 pm

        • I thought Jews got the finger wagging from hell,if they married a non Jew . I saw something on tv and this Jew mother was gonna disown her daughter if she married a non Jew. Pretty damn snotty if you ask me

          Comment by Tim — July 12, 2016 @ 4:03 pm

          • You wrote: “I thought Jews got the finger wagging from hell,if they married a non Jew .”

            There is a possibility that Zaidenstadt was not Jewish. Why wasn’t he killed? Maybe because he was actually Catholic.

            Comment by furtherglory — July 12, 2016 @ 4:43 pm

            • I thought about that,but when you said he might be a non Jew,him marrying a “commoner”,fit together and made sense. 500 Jews got bumped off by the non Jews in town. Sounds like they had a damn good idea,who the Jews were,yet he escaped that. You said he escaped the gas house for 3 years. He was either the luckiest son of a bitch alive,or he’s just a flat liar,that panhandles off his fictional story of woe. Far as I’m concerned,ain’t nobody that damn lucky.. This jackass seems like he’d almost make a good card-sharp.

              Comment by Tim — July 12, 2016 @ 5:04 pm

          • Have you met any real life Jews?

            Comment by Anonymous — July 12, 2016 @ 5:25 pm

            • I’ve lived in South Florida. You tell me.

              Comment by Tim — July 12, 2016 @ 6:30 pm

            • I don’t think anyone would want to meet the following Jew – who was recently in the news;-

              “Outgoing chief rabbi, Brig. Gen. Rafi Peretz, of the Israeili Defense Forces, who is stepping down after six years in the position is being replaced. And, his successor, Rabbi Col. Eyal Karim’s appointment is being met with backlash — as he is outspoken for allowing soldiers to rape women during wartime.

              Karim, who was announced on Monday as the intended new IDF chief rabbi, has provoked controversy with previous misogynistic statements, such as opposing female conscription and implying that rape was permissible in times of war…

              …In 2012, Karim’s controversy started when the Hebrew religious website KIPA, asked him, in the light of certain biblical passages, if IDF soldiers were permitted to commit rape during wartime despite the general understanding that such an act is widely considered repugnant.

              “Although intercourse with a female gentile is very grave, it was permitted during wartime (under the conditions it stipulated) out of consideration for the soldiers’ difficulties,” he wrote. “And since our concern is the success of the collective in the war, the Torah permitted [soldiers] to satisfy the evil urge under the conditions it stipulated for the sake of the collective’s success.”

              “In other words, soldiers can rape innocent women during times of war in order to keep their morale up.”

              This gentlemen reminds me of the Soviet Jewish propagandist – Ilya Ehrenburg – who called upon young men in the Red Army to carry out multiple rape against German women in 1945. He was also a very thoughtful man, because he was so eager to get his repulsive and savage message out to his readership, that he went ahead and commissioned hundreds of thousands of leaflets to be dropped by aircraft right on top of the soldiers heads.

              Comment by Talbot — July 13, 2016 @ 5:54 am

    • You wrote: “The story of Martin Zaidenstadt sounds a bit fishy to me. Of all the places in Europe, he claims that he came from the infamous village of Jedwabne in Eastern Poland. ”

      I suspect that Martin was born and raised in the town of Dachau, and that he was not Jewish. Jedwabne was famous because of what happened there, and it was the only Polish town that he knew of.

      Comment by furtherglory — July 13, 2016 @ 8:45 am

  5. When I went to Dachau it to research the Allach sub-camp where SS Oberführer Karl Debitsch oversaw the Allach Porcelain Factory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Diebitsch. I also wanted to see a painting that Seattle based contemporary artist Drake Deckatel told me he donated to the Dachau Memorial Association and which I found hanging in the Records Office. I arrived on a day there were no tours. While in the Records Office a diminutive Jewish man (who looked like he’s been sent over from Central Casting for a part in Fiddler on the Roof) introduced himself to me as the amateur artist whose abstract paintings were displayed throughout the office. “Nice work,” I lied to him. In the course of boasting about his bad art he let me know he was also a regular volunteer tour guide and would be conducting a private tour of the camp for a group of Native Americans later that afternoon. When I asked if it would be OK for me to join in he replied, ” I’m sorry, but you’re not an Indian.” So, I walked around by myself checking this and that out, including the notorious Dachau gas chamber which at that time had the sign in the center of the room announcing it was never used. The thing I remember most vividly about it were the shower heads. They didn’t look like showerheads. The looked like something made by Mexiican tin smiths and stick in the ceiling for a piñata party not a nazi gassing.

    Comment by who dares wings — July 12, 2016 @ 12:21 pm

    • I wouldn’t doubt the shower heads were made in Mexico they look like they were they probably were.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — July 12, 2016 @ 12:28 pm

  6. If it wasn’t for the revisionist exposing the lies about the Dachau gas chamber they would still be telling people about it today. So for click and all the Holohucksters on this site there you go. You have a bunch of liars that lie until they caught and when they’re caught the lie changes and that’s the whole point about the HoloHoax it’s one biggest lies until they’re caught lying then they have to change that lie until someone else exposes that lie and then they change that lie for another one so the scheme goes on forever and ever and they always have a great explanation of why something happened the only problem is it doesn’t jibe with the original story of the people that were in the camp.
    The Holohucksters here refuse to read some original books like Pail Rassinier books debunking the HoloHoax because he was there in the beginning in The Dora camp which was one of the camps that used to build the V2 rocket and he can give you exactly what was going on in the camp without all the HoloHoax Fanfare and lies.
    How many lies are you Holohucksters here are going to put up with until you see what’s going on.
    Oh that’s right the lies don’t count in your book you only present your HoloHoax Pseudo Historians views of Holohoax but when the HoloHoax liars present their views with all the lies that doesn’t concern you.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — July 12, 2016 @ 11:30 am

  7. Add (or re-add) Poland to the list of the 109 countries who expelled the jews except for … um … wow, they seriously were NOT LIKED. I knew there was no love lost by the Poles concerning the jews. Sounds like Kristallnacht, spontaneous German (people) outrage – THAT’S ALL I CAN STANDS, I CAN’T STANDS NO MORE. The rest, obviously regarding the camp as a killing camp is bogus, as usual. When the gas myth is debunked, they have to reach for OTHER means. The whole business is rotten and thus NOTHING is to be believed about executions, especially camps in Germany.

    Comment by Diane King — July 12, 2016 @ 11:24 am


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