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July 16, 2016

Elie Wiesel’s book “Night” is about what happens when “the Nazis get you”

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 8:49 am

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The title of my blog post today comes from a news article which you can read in full at https://newrepublic.com/minutes/134838/elie-wiesel-boy-lived

The following quote is from the news article, cited above:

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Night was first published in English in 1960, and it would take many more years before it became a staple of high school and college courses. (It was chosen for Oprah’s Book Club in 2006.) Sequentially and substantively, it is a kind of sequel to Frank’s diary: It is about what happens when the Nazis get you.

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Why were the Nazis out to get the Jews? It was because of the Jewish propensity to Lie, Steal and Cheat.  Basically, the Nazis were puritans: they loved their mothers, and they did not lie, steal and cheat.

Everything that Elie wrote was a lie. Elie was never in a camp. Elie was in hiding throughout the war. Elie never even met a Nazi. Elie was safe at home in Romania, hiding in his basement.

Elie Wiesel and Oprah at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Elie Wiesel and Oprah at Auschwitz-Birkenau

My photo of the ruins that Elie and Oprah visited

My photo of the ruins shown in the photo of Elie and Oprah at Auschwitz-Birkenau

In January 2006, Oprah Winfrey had chosen “Night”for her book club selection. Shortly after that, she toured the Auschwitz main camp and the Birkenau camp with Elie Wiesel as her guide. The photo above shows Oprah and Elie in Birkenau, standing beside the ruins of Crematorium III, where thousands of Hungarian Jews were allegedly gassed and burned in 1944. Oprah was speechless as Elie Wiesel described the horror of the Holocaust, including the murder of innocent children.

What will be the legacy of Elie Wiesel? Will he go down in history as “Elie the Liar”?

You can read more about Elie Wiesel at http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/reading-elie-wiesel-in-auschwitz/article8860273.ece

 

34 Comments »

  1. @Hermie:

    Jeff wrote: “First, you are the first person I’ve ever known to call Hitler a “Civil Rights Activist.””

    “Never watched American History X?😉”

    Why, yes, I have. It’s been 20 years. I remember liking it, primarily because Edward Norton is such a good actor. I don’t remember anyone calling Hitler a “Civil Rights Activist.” Perhaps it deserves another look on my part.
    It’s message is lost with you, however. Norton’s character abandons white supremacy.

    Jeff wrote: “Second, a civil rights activist fights for the rights of minorities, not the majority. By definition the Jews in Germany were a very small minority. Plus, these were ethnic Germans, they were just a religious minority. Hitler oppressed a minority, which is the furthest thing from a “Civil Rights Activist.””

    “False. Ghandi (and others) kicked the British-Jewish minority out of power in India.”

    Through nonviolent means. “British-Jewish?”

    “Nelson Mandela (and others) kicked the White Boer-British minority out of power in South Africa.”

    Initially through nonviolent means, though he later turned to terrorism (that’s what got him locked up for so long). World pressure, including economic pressure, led to the end of Apartheid and his release.

    “And they are both depicted by Jew-owned Western media and academia as superheroes of civil rights for doing that.”

    Yawn. Conspiraloon alert.

    “Hitler kicked the minority now heading all Western countries out of power in Germany and he’s unsurprisingly hated for doing that.”

    Your delusions are at once amusing and frightening. Hitler is hated for starting the European War that led to World War II. This war caused the death of millions and the destruction of billions of dollars worth of property.

    “That specific minority won’t let others realize there’s life, liberty and happiness out of Jewish tyranny, for obvious reasons.”

    Life, liberty and happiness? You mean that espoused by Hitler, whose government locked “enemies of the people” away without trial in concentration camps? The book burners and the oppressors of the Catholic and Protestant Churches? The creators of the Gestapo and SS?
    Again, you are sadly delusional. I’m just not sure why you are so slavishly devoted to this idealized past you’ve built in your head.
    Why can’t you have a normal obsession, like Star Trek? Harry Potter? Star Wars?
    You know, something harmless.

    “No Jew has ever claimed and will ever claim that the ‘German’ Jews of the 1930s and 1940s were ethnic Germans. ”

    They were ethnic Germans. They spoke German, married Germans, had German children. They were, to a large degree, patriotic and middle class. Many were conservative and imperialistic.
    Even Nazi Germany had trouble categorizing Jews, half Jews, quarter Jews. Much of it was based off of the practice of Judiasm, not the way someone looked.

    “That’s ridiculous and scientifically/biologically incorrect.”

    Why do you think that every Jew on earth is an Ashkenazi Jew?
    That’s ridiculous.
    Hermie, Jews are as racially diverse as anyone. There are African, Asian, Hispanic Jews. You seem to have obsessively locked into Jews existing as a single ethnic group. They are not.
    I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, deniers are so narrowly focused.

    “C’mon. Stop ridiculing yourself. ‘German’ Jews were/are as much ethnic Germans as White Americans are ethnic American Indians/natives.”

    Native Americans look different from European emigrants. German Jews did not.

    Jeff wrote: “Third, Gandhi advocated peaceful protest. Hitler blustered, threatened and initimidated to get what he wanted.”

    “Easy to be in favor of non-violence when you don’t have choice. Did the US founding fathers kicked the British imperialists out of US territory through non-violent means? Of course not. If they had done that, all Americans would today keep celebrating the birthday of Queen Elisabeth II every year.”

    You know, I read an interesting opinion piece advocating the return of the US to British rule. What do you think, Hermie? Do you think the British would welcome their wayward colonial cousins back to the fold?

    “And Malcom X is still depicted as a human rights activists despite the violent means he used to advocate. Would you feel better if I called Hitler a freedom fighter rather than a civil rights activist?”

    No, I wouldn’t. As far as the American Revolution, the colonists revolted against an imperial power. Malcolm X never actually fostered a revolution.
    Hitler came to power through legitimate democratic procedure, not through a coup or a revolution (he tried that in 1923 and got bitch-slapped). Hitler OPPRESSED a religious minority in his country, forcing Jews to emigrate or lose their livelihood, later their freedom. Hitler OPPRESSED other political parties in Germany, locking away Social Democrats, Communists, even nationalists.
    Look, I don’t blame Hitler for wanting to make Germany strong again, that’s the job of a leader. I don’t blame him for wanting to restore German borders.
    What I do blame him for is the way he went about it. He also stepped over the line when it to trampling on sovereign nations like Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. He blatantly used a certain degree of Western guilt over the Versailles Treaty to get everything he wanted. That’s smart. However, he pushed his luck and lost. That’s not a freedom fighter. That’s not a civil rights activist. That’s a leader who got swept up in his megalomania and refused to believe the warnings of the British and French when they no longer could trust him.

    Comment by Jeff K. — July 22, 2016 @ 10:39 am

    • I wrote a blog post, on which I quoted Hitler in several of his speeches: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/hitlers-speeches/

      Comment by furtherglory — July 22, 2016 @ 11:03 am

    • Jeff wrote: “Why, yes, I have. It’s been 20 years. I remember liking it, primarily because Edward Norton is such a good actor. I don’t remember anyone calling Hitler a “Civil Rights Activist.” Perhaps it deserves another look on my part.”

      Quite at the beginning of the movie, the Black headmaster tells Dany Vinyard that he gonna teach him a history class called “American History X” after Dany had opted for Mein Kampf as a piece of civil rights.

      Jeff wrote: “It’s message is lost with you, however. Norton’s character abandons white supremacy.”

      Message not lost. Brain not located at Hollywwod and Jew York…😉

      Jeff wrote: “Through nonviolent means.”

      You’re confusing means with goals and achievements.

      Jeff wrote: “British-Jewish?”

      Yes, there were Jews in British India. Didn’t know that? Now you know.

      Jeff wrote: “Initially through nonviolent means, though he later turned to terrorism (that’s what got him locked up for so long). World pressure, including economic pressure, led to the end of Apartheid and his release.”

      Cute to see you defend the reputation of your hero so ardently.

      Same confusion…

      Jeff wrote: “Yawn. Conspiraloon alert.”

      No conspiracy needed. A society’s heroes are obviously those its media and academia tells.

      Jeff wrote: “Your delusions are at once amusing and frightening. Hitler is hated for starting the European War that led to World War II. This war caused the death of millions and the destruction of billions of dollars worth of property.”

      Never noticed that those who allegedly started a war are also always those who lost that war? Amazing coincidence! How convenient…

      Orthodox historiography is such joke!

      Jeff wrote: “Life, liberty and happiness? You mean that espoused by Hitler, whose government locked “enemies of the people” away without trial in concentration camps?”

      You can write enemies of the people between sarcastic quotation marks if you want to. But your dear communist friends had vastly demonstrated their ability to fill mass graves.

      Jeff wrote: “The book burners and the oppressors of the Catholic and Protestant Churches?”

      Obscene & murderous kosher filth just good for the stake. What a great loss.

      If both Churches didn’t leave their secular status of religious gurus for the status of political propagandists, they had nothing to fear from the NS state.

      Jeff wrote: “The creators of the Gestapo and SS?”

      Every revolution needs its guardians…

      Jeff wrote: “Why can’t you have a normal obsession, like Star Trek? Harry Potter? Star Wars? You know, something harmless.”

      Because I’m not a dumb Homo americanus entertainicus.

      Jeff wrote: “They were ethnic Germans. They spoke German, married Germans, had German children. They were, to a large degree, patriotic and middle class. Many were conservative and imperialistic.”

      Ethnic Germans were racially Germans. ‘German ‘Jews were ethnic Hebrews.

      And don’t make as if there were only secular Jews in Germany, as if no waves of Jewish migrants hadn’t rolled in Germany after WW1.

      Jeff wrote: “Even Nazi Germany had trouble categorizing Jews, half Jews, quarter Jews. Much of it was based off of the practice of Judiasm, not the way someone looked.”

      Wrong. ‘Jews,’ ‘half Jews’ and ‘quarter Jews’ were all racial grades, racial categories. The National Socialists didn’t care that those idiots intoned Hebrew BS in synagogues or not.

      Jeff wrote: Why do you think that every Jew on earth is an Ashkenazi Jew? That’s ridiculous.”

      I don’t think that every Jew is an Askhenazi Jew. But I’m European. My people is affected by Ashkenazi Jews and a smaller number of Sepharadic Jews. I’m not a Globalist/Internationalist uniformizer like yourself. I’m mainly interested in what deals with my own surroundings. I’m interested in the rest of the world too, but less interested.

      Jeff wrote: Hermie, Jews are as racially diverse as anyone. There are African, Asian, Hispanic Jews. You seem to have obsessively locked into Jews existing as a single ethnic group. They are not. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, deniers are so narrowly focused.”

      A few old tribes with quite number of negro and asian people who think they are Jews don’t hide the fact that most Jews in the world are Ashkenazi and Sepharadic Jews.

      Jeff wrote: “Native Americans look different from European emigrants. German Jews did not.”

      Of course they do look different. It’s not because you and many others are unable to see it that there’s no difference. Just as it’s not because numerous people were unable to see any difference between a real ‘Indian’ and a White actor playing the role of an Indian in movies that the ‘Indian’ race doesn’t exist.

      Jeff wrote: “You know, I read an interesting opinion piece advocating the return of the US to British rule. What do you think, Hermie? Do you think the British would welcome their wayward colonial cousins back to the fold?”

      I couldn’t care less than about the merging or non-merging of 2 districts of Jewry’s empire.

      Jeff wrote: “Hitler OPPRESSED a religious minority in his country, forcing Jews to emigrate or lose their livelihood, later their freedom.”

      A religious minority? I’d rather say ‘a racial alien given to domination.’

      Oppressed? Er…Sorry. OPPRESSED? I’d rather say ‘former oppressors neutralized through approriate, even if too soft, measures.’ The liberty of a people has a price.

      Jeff wrote: “Hitler OPPRESSED other political parties in Germany, locking away Social Democrats, Communists, even nationalists.”

      Other political parties’ oppression on the NSDAP led to an understandable backlash when the bill finally came. Less bloody revolution ever!

      Jeff wrote: “Look, I don’t blame Hitler for wanting to make Germany strong again, that’s the job of a leader. I don’t blame him for wanting to restore German borders. What I do blame him for is the way he went about it. He also stepped over the line when it to trampling on sovereign nations like Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. He blatantly used a certain degree of Western guilt over the Versailles Treaty to get everything he wanted. That’s smart. However, he pushed his luck and lost.”

      Everybody knew that the Versailles borders and other stipulations had to be revised in a way or another. The Jew-owned Western democracies opted for the war option, because they wanted a war against National Socialist Germany, instead of benefitting from the great fortune to be able to deal with a German leader willing to make concessions provided that they were fair. Fine. Their choice. Their guilt…

      Jeff wrote: “That’s not a freedom fighter. That’s not a civil rights activist. That’s a leader who got swept up in his megalomania and refused to believe the warnings of the British and French when they no longer could trust him.”

      Same baby food as that regugitated by yourself a thousand times previously. Same old ludicrous narrative as that of the victors and their storytellers. Nothing new…

      Comment by hermie — July 22, 2016 @ 6:39 pm

      • Jeff wrote: “Why, yes, I have. It’s been 20 years. I remember liking it, primarily because Edward Norton is such a good actor. I don’t remember anyone calling Hitler a “Civil Rights Activist.” Perhaps it deserves another look on my part.”

        “Quite at the beginning of the movie, the Black headmaster tells Dany Vinyard that he gonna teach him a history class called “American History X” after Dany had opted for Mein Kampf as a piece of civil rights.”

        That’s nice. It’s also a movie. So, a work of fiction. Like Holocaust denial.

        Jeff wrote: “It’s message is lost with you, however. Norton’s character abandons white supremacy.”

        “Message not lost. Brain not located at Hollywwod and Jew York… ;-)”

        Brain located somewhere in 1938 in a mystical world where Hitler isn’t a crazy bastard.

        I say that with all due respect.

        Jeff wrote: “Through nonviolent means.”

        “You’re confusing means with goals and achievements.”

        You mean Hitler’s goal was to start a war and kill a lot of people? Looks like he achieved his goals.

        Jeff wrote: “British-Jewish?”

        “Yes, there were Jews in British India. Didn’t know that? Now you know.”

        Let me think about that………..hhhhhhhmmmmm…….I don’t give a shit.
        So what?

        Jeff wrote: “Initially through nonviolent means, though he later turned to terrorism (that’s what got him locked up for so long). World pressure, including economic pressure, led to the end of Apartheid and his release.”

        “Cute to see you defend the reputation of your hero so ardently.”

        What? What hero? I don’t look at Mandela as a hero. You brought him up…..is a black man your hero? That’s weird.
        Hermie, what I wrote is fact, not hero-worship.

        Jeff wrote: “Yawn. Conspiraloon alert.”

        “No conspiracy needed. A society’s heroes are obviously those its media and academia tells.”

        Uh-huh. Yawn.

        Jeff wrote: “Your delusions are at once amusing and frightening. Hitler is hated for starting the European War that led to World War II. This war caused the death of millions and the destruction of billions of dollars worth of property.”

        “Never noticed that those who allegedly started a war are also always those who lost that war? Amazing coincidence! How convenient…”

        Not in this case.
        Or, are you denying that Germany invaded Poland?

        Somehow, that seems like you.

        “Orthodox historiography is such joke!”

        Holocaust denial is such a joke!!! What kind of lame conspiraloon conspiracy can’t even provide proof?!?!?!?

        Jeff wrote: “Life, liberty and happiness? You mean that espoused by Hitler, whose government locked “enemies of the people” away without trial in concentration camps?”

        “You can write enemies of the people between sarcastic quotation marks if you want to.”

        I will, it’s quite fun.

        “But your dear communist friends had vastly demonstrated their ability to fill mass graves.”

        How do you know? I asked you to provide proof that the Communists murdered the people at Ponary. You failed.

        Jeff wrote: “The book burners and the oppressors of the Catholic and Protestant Churches?”

        “Obscene & murderous kosher filth just good for the stake. What a great loss.”

        Only frightened, small minded people burn books.

        “If both Churches didn’t leave their secular status of religious gurus for the status of political propagandists, they had nothing to fear from the NS state.”

        Large words, empty of meaning.

        Only the small minded are frightened of preachers and priests.

        Jeff wrote: “The creators of the Gestapo and SS?”

        “Every revolution needs its guardians…”

        Only the small-minded require secret police to keep the populace in line. Just to be fair I’ll toss in the Conmunist Regimes.

        Jeff wrote: “Why can’t you have a normal obsession, like Star Trek? Harry Potter? Star Wars? You know, something harmless.”

        “Because I’m not a dumb Homo americanus entertainicus.”

        Big words. Empty of meaning.

        Jeff wrote: “They were ethnic Germans. They spoke German, married Germans, had German children. They were, to a large degree, patriotic and middle class. Many were conservative and imperialistic.”

        “Ethnic Germans were racially Germans. ‘German ‘Jews were ethnic Hebrews.”

        Sorry, wrong. These were Germans who happened to be Jews.

        “And don’t make as if there were only secular Jews in Germany, as if no waves of Jewish migrants hadn’t rolled in Germany after WW1.”

        Waves?
        How many, exactly?
        I’ll tell you what, why don’t you give me the Jewish numbers pre-war and the “waves” that came after?

        Jeff wrote: “Even Nazi Germany had trouble categorizing Jews, half Jews, quarter Jews. Much of it was based off of the practice of Judiasm, not the way someone looked.”

        “Wrong. ‘Jews,’ ‘half Jews’ and ‘quarter Jews’ were all racial grades, racial categories.”

        That they made up on the fly.

        “The National Socialists didn’t care that those idiots intoned Hebrew BS in synagogues or not.”

        Well, they cared enough to burn those synagogues down.

        Jeff wrote: Why do you think that every Jew on earth is an Ashkenazi Jew? That’s ridiculous.”

        “I don’t think that every Jew is an Askhenazi Jew. But I’m European. My people is affected by Ashkenazi Jews and a smaller number of Sepharadic Jews. I’m not a Globalist/Internationalist uniformizer like yourself.”

        Globalist/Internationalist uniformizer????????
        WTF?????

        “I’m mainly interested in what deals with my own surroundings.”

        Ok, that makes sense.

        “I’m interested in the rest of the world too, but less interested.”

        I uh, what???

        Jeff wrote: Hermie, Jews are as racially diverse as anyone. There are African, Asian, Hispanic Jews. You seem to have obsessively locked into Jews existing as a single ethnic group. They are not. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, deniers are so narrowly focused.”

        “A few old tribes with quite number of negro and asian people who think they are Jews don’t hide the fact that most Jews in the world are Ashkenazi and Sepharadic Jews.”

        Narrowly focused. Thanks for proving my point.

        Jeff wrote: “Native Americans look different from European emigrants. German Jews did not.”

        “Of course they do look different. It’s not because you and many others are unable to see it that there’s no difference.”

        Then why did the Nazis require Jews to wear yellow stars?
        Oh that’s right. People back then had a mystical ability to see Jews. Apparently we lost that ability at the dawn of the Atomic Age.

        “Just as it’s not because numerous people were unable to see any difference between a real ‘Indian’ and a White actor playing the role of an Indian in movies that the ‘Indian’ race doesn’t exist.”

        WTF are you talking about?

        Hermie, enough make up will conceal ethnic identities. Black and white film helps as well.

        Jeff wrote: “You know, I read an interesting opinion piece advocating the return of the US to British rule. What do you think, Hermie? Do you think the British would welcome their wayward colonial cousins back to the fold?”

        “I couldn’t care less than about the merging or non-merging of 2 districts of Jewry’s empire.”

        Oh, more delusional babbling. How nice.

        Jeff wrote: “Hitler OPPRESSED a religious minority in his country, forcing Jews to emigrate or lose their livelihood, later their freedom.”

        “A religious minority? I’d rather say ‘a racial alien given to domination.’”

        Wrong. For the most part German Jews were assimilated patriots. They weren’t intent on dominating anyone.

        “Oppressed? Er…Sorry. OPPRESSED? I’d rather say ‘former oppressors neutralized through approriate, even if too soft, measures.’ The liberty of a people has a price.”

        No, the Nazis oppressed loyal citizens because, just like you, they were given to delusions about Jewish domination. That’s sad and the consequences of this Nazi abberrant thinking tragic.

        Jeff wrote: “Hitler OPPRESSED other political parties in Germany, locking away Social Democrats, Communists, even nationalists.”

        “Other political parties’ oppression on the NSDAP”

        How were they oppressed? Hitler got away with a slap on the wrist for treason. Yes, the Nazi Party was banned for a short time but that’s the consequence of trying to overthrow a government. They were lucky they weren’t hung as traitors, Hitler, Goering and the rest. By the late 1920’s the ban on party activities was over and they were free to campaign as they wished. They were the second largest party in the Reichstag by 1932.

        “led to an understandable backlash when the bill finally came. Less bloody revolution ever!”

        Yes, it was a relatively bloodless revolution. There was some justification in jailing Communists. But, Social Democrats? Labor leaders? Priests?

        Naturally your poor moribund mind can’t grasp that fact. You drift along in a wonderful fantasy of your own making.

        Jeff wrote: “Look, I don’t blame Hitler for wanting to make Germany strong again, that’s the job of a leader. I don’t blame him for wanting to restore German borders. What I do blame him for is the way he went about it. He also stepped over the line when it to trampling on sovereign nations like Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. He blatantly used a certain degree of Western guilt over the Versailles Treaty to get everything he wanted. That’s smart. However, he pushed his luck and lost.”

        “Everybody knew that the Versailles borders and other stipulations had to be revised in a way or another.”

        Sure. The British turned a blind eye because they felt uneasy about the “unfairness” of the Versailles Treaty.

        “The Jew-owned Western democracies opted for the war option,”

        What!!!?????!!!!
        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

        “because they wanted a war against National Socialist Germany,”

        No, they did not. The did everything they could to avoid war. Hitler forced their hand.

        “instead of benefitting from the great fortune to be able to deal with a German leader willing to make concessions provided that they were fair.”

        That’s hysterical. Hitler was willing to make concessions……as long as others conceded to him. The West gave him everything he wanted…..until he broke the Munich Agreement and took over non-Germanic lands. Then the British and French realized there was no bargaining with Hitler, no compromise that Hitler wouldn’t twist.

        “Fine. Their choice. Their guilt…”

        Their stupidity in thinking they could bargain with Hitler, a consummate blackmailer who always demanded more.

        Jeff wrote: “That’s not a freedom fighter. That’s not a civil rights activist. That’s a leader who got swept up in his megalomania and refused to believe the warnings of the British and French when they no longer could trust him.”

        “Same baby food as that regugitated by yourself a thousand times previously.”

        Well, I’m right. Your problem is you live in a fantasy land where Hitler is the white knight coming to rescue Germans…….

        “Same old ludicrous narrative as that of the victors and their storytellers. Nothing new…”

        Well, unfortunately history doesn’t bend to your fantastic narrative. Sorry.

        Comment by Jeff K. — July 22, 2016 @ 9:04 pm

        • You wrote: “No, they [the British] did not [want war]. The did everything they could to avoid war. Hitler forced their hand.”
          I wrote about who started World War II on this blog post:

          https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/alfred-naujocks-and-the-start-of-world-war-ii/

          Comment by furtherglory — July 23, 2016 @ 7:06 am

          • “You wrote: “No, they [the British] did not [want war]. The did everything they could to avoid war. Hitler forced their hand.”

            I wrote about who started World War II on this blog post:

            You didn’t mention in your previous post the Molotov/Ribbentrop Agreement, part of which included the partitioning of Poland between the two powers.

            You didn’t mention that technically Germany invaded Poland on August 26th. The original date for the invasion was the 26th but Hitler called it off at the last moment to attempt to separate the Poles from the West. Some German troops did cross the border because they did not get the halt order in time, violating Polish borders.

            You didn’t mention that the British and French pressured the Poles into halting their mobilization so that the Polish army was only partly mobilized on September 1st. This sort of throws cold water on the whole “Poland attacked Germany” nonsense.

            I’m sure I’m missing other items but you get the picture.

            Comment by Jeff K. — July 23, 2016 @ 7:26 am

            • You wrote: “You didn’t mention that the British and French pressured the Poles into halting their mobilization so that the Polish army was only partly mobilized on September 1st. This sort of throws cold water on the whole “Poland attacked Germany” nonsense.”
              I also wrote another blog post about who started World War II:
              https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/07/28/youtube-video-proves-that-hitler-did-not-start-wwii/

              Comment by furtherglory — July 23, 2016 @ 8:02 am

            • Let me ask you about that pact tween the Ruskies and Germany. How can they Germany broke the agreement by taking the Ruskies in eastern Poland . I thought Hitler and Stalin already planned on having Poland for the Sunday ham. Hitler rolled from the west. Stalin came from the east. I heard Hitler wanted the west so he’d have access to the port of Danzig. I heard at one time,Danzig did belong to Germany . At any rate,if Papa Joe and Uncle Adolph had already made plans for Poland,how can anyone say,Hitlers military are responsible for start of the war. Rolling into Poland like that,you’re starting shit. There’s no way around that. Yet everyone forgets,Stalins hands were just as dirty. I don’t give a shit if they say Germany overpowered the Ruskies . Bottom line,they got their ass kicked by Germany that time. That still don’t change the fact that Stalin was willing to be just as aggressive towards Poland as Hitler was. Yet no one will put a case on Stalin. The shit dick ended up with Poland any way. To this day I’m trying to figure out why the Ruskies ended up with Poland (far as I’m concerned,the Ruskies owned Poland). Big deal. They liberated the poles from the nazis. We helped France get rid of the nazis ( while degaulles bitch ass sat in the corner stroking himself). Did we want to set up our own form of government in France,like the Ruskies did in Poland . Truman and Churchill were chickenshits. The Ruskies f–ked us every step of the way. We were coming out of the depression,but FDRs dumbass gave the Ruskies 50 mill ( I think) to help them with their fight with Germany . I’m not trying to play Hitlers pep squad here,but it’s just amazing how we can turn a blind eye to Hitler and Stalin making their deal about Poland and drop all that shit in Hitlers lap. The piece of shit Ruskies locked up one of Gen. Dolittles bomber crews cause they had to land in Russia due to lack of fuel on their way back from Japan. If FDR had any balls,he would’ve bitch slapped Stalin over that one.

              Comment by Tim — July 24, 2016 @ 8:51 pm

              • “Let me ask you about that pact tween the Ruskies and Germany. How can they Germany broke the agreement by taking the Ruskies in eastern Poland . I thought Hitler and Stalin already planned on having Poland for the Sunday ham.”

                Tim, the Germans and Soviets signed the Molotov-Ribbontrop Pact on August 23rd, 1939. It was basically a non-aggression pact, both sides agreed to stay out of any wars conducted by third parties against the signees. It also contained secret protocols dividing up Eastern Europe between the two, the most important being the partition of Poland.

                Hitler hoped that doing this would drive a wage between Poland and the West, with the British and French allowing him to do as he wished in Eastern Europe. Stalin wanted to stay out of any conflict between the West and Germany. An extra benefit would be the addition of extra territory for the USSR. Stalin also didn’t particularly like the Poles, the Poles beat the Soviets during the Soviet-Polish War, 1919-1920. This war caused the Polish border to extend Eastwards into old Russian Empire territory.

                Both sides benefitted, there was an informal alliance of sorts. The Soviets received the additional territory it wanted, the Germans received the supplies it needed along with some other assistance. The Gestapo and NKVD cooperated in exchanging information about the Polish Underground.

                Is that what you were looking for?
                BTW, Click is busy with testing, that’s why she hasn’t been posting.

                Comment by Jeff K. — July 25, 2016 @ 12:07 am

                • Miss Click is testing ? I thought college was out for the summer. I know of the “generic” shit the history books teach about Poland ,from school. I never knew about Hitler and Stalin “both” invading Poland . Yet history will continue to,browbeat Hitler and drop everything in his lap. Like I said before,I’m not Hitlers pep squad here. However there’s enough dirt to go around for all the guilty parties. Put Stalin in the spotlight for once on this one. We decided to float Stalin 50 mill dollar loan,so he could use it to fight Germany . I think I see where some of that money went now. I’m still waiting for someone to answer why Stalins punks weren’t put on trial,for half the shit they pulled in Germany after the surrender. People might say we trying to keep good relations with Russia . Ha ! There’s no way in hell anybody can say , Truman and FDR didn’t know Stalin was trying to act cute from day one. I always think about those pics where FDR sits between Stalin and Winston. I kinda reminds of him being the mother and telling Churchill and Stalin to quit popping each other on the back of the head and quit making faces at each other,or they get sent to bed without supper. Actually Stalin has the,”cat that ate the canary ” smile on his face in all those pics. He’s probably thinking,”if these simpletons only knew how bad I’m gonna f–k them when this is all over”. No mater what the nazis ,”may or may not” have done,that would’ve been amateur night as far as the Ruskies were concerned. Who’s gonna be the voice for all the victims,Stalin had murdered? I like the way history ignores them. F–k it. I say we put on “Ball and Chain” and toast Janis with her favorite drink. Southern Comfort. You’ll have to drink my share. Me and fire water don’t mix to well anymore

                  Comment by Tim — July 25, 2016 @ 6:13 am

  2. His legacy is gonna be people are starting to make him the,”poster child”. I’m sick of hearing about him. This story does have some humor. Oprahs dumb ass don’t realize,just how racist Jews are,towards blacks

    Comment by Tim — July 16, 2016 @ 1:42 pm

  3. The “New Republic” website states;- ““Never shall I forget that nocturnal silence which deprived me, for all eternity, of the desire to live.” Yet… Wiesel continued to live, for seemingly no other reason than that, like him, no one would ever forget.”

    This is the kind of highly emotional garbage that the world has been subjected to for decades-on-end. But when you read it a second time one can see how preposterous these assertions are in reality.

    If someone had been through a truly horrific experience that they lost the will to live “for all eternity” then would they not promptly commit suicide, or waste away in loneliness and despair for the remaining months or years of their lives – drowning in alcohol, drugs and medication?

    Is it at all conceivable, that such a person would write a series of best-selling books; appear in TV studios; tour around the lectures circuits, and travel all over the world to receive awards, acclaim, and plaudits – and all for no other reason that he “seemingly” wanted everyone else not to forget what had happened?

    Comment by Talbot — July 16, 2016 @ 11:28 am

    • You wrote: “Is it at all conceivable, that such a person would write a series of best-selling books; appear in TV studios; tour around the lectures circuits, and travel all over the world to receive awards, acclaim, and plaudits – and all for no other reason that he “seemingly” wanted everyone else not to forget what had happened?”

      What do you think Elie should have done when he came out of hiding in the basement of his home in Romania? He saw his opportunity to become rich and famous, so he took that opportunity. I don’t begrudge him his fame and money. Now that he is gone, Holocaust deniers can be happy that the truth has come out, at last. I predict that more fake survivors will be outed.

      Comment by furtherglory — July 16, 2016 @ 11:46 am

  4. Can you evidence your claim that Weasel was never in a camp. This is a bold claim and I don’t doubt you but would like to know more please.

    Comment by Mr B — July 16, 2016 @ 10:06 am

    • You wrote: “Can you evidence your claim that Weasel was never in a camp.”

      There is no evidence that he WAS in a camp. He was never registered in a camp; the registration number that he claims to have had, was the number given to another prisoner. He was never tattooed with a number on his arm, as photos of him show that he has no tattoo.

      There is no record of him being registered at Buchenwald, a camp where he claims to have been a prisoner.

      Elie claims that he was sent to Monowitz, a camp where prisoners worked in factories. Monowitz was not a camp for Jews and there is no evidence that he was ever there.

      Comment by furtherglory — July 16, 2016 @ 11:14 am

  5. “Why were the Nazis out to get the Jews? It was because of the Jewish propensity to Lie, Steal and Cheat. Basically, the Nazis were puritans: they loved their mothers, and they did not lie, steal and cheat.”

    Really?
    What the millions, maybe billions, of dollars in art the Nazis stole from the countries they conquered?
    The furniture, the clothing, the household items plundered from the Poles, the Jews, etc.?
    The land and businesses they stole from the Poles and Jews they displaced?
    Oh, what about the money, jewelry, family heirlooms, clothes and household items they stole from the Jews they murdered?
    What about the foreign workers torn from their homes and forced to work like slaves?

    Yes, they sound wonderful.

    Comment by Jeff K. — July 16, 2016 @ 10:01 am

    • You wrote: “What the millions, maybe billions, of dollars in art the Nazis stole from the countries they conquered?”

      I wrote about the stolen art on this blog post:
      https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/05/09/what-happened-to-germanys-gold-after-world-war-ii/

      Apparently, you have never heard of the first rule of war: “To the victor belongs the spoils.” After Germany was conquered in World War II, the Americans carried everything they could out of Germany, not allowing the Russians their fair share. The Russians took the light bulbs out of Germany, not realizing that these light bulbs would not work in Russia.

      There was a whole movie about how the Americans and the Russians competed to take as much as they could out of Germany.

      Comment by furtherglory — July 16, 2016 @ 11:22 am

      • “Apparently, you have never heard of the first rule of war: “To the victor belongs the spoils.” ”

        No, I know what that is. But you said that the Nazis didn’t steal. They did.

        They even stole from themselves:

        http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/trials/konradmorgen.html

        Comment by Jeff K. — July 16, 2016 @ 1:36 pm

        • You wrote: “They even stole from themselves:

          http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/trials/konradmorgen.html

          I also wrote about Konrad Morgen on several blog posts under the tag “Konrad Morgen”:
          https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/dr-konrad-morgen/

          Comment by furtherglory — July 16, 2016 @ 2:03 pm

        • You provided a link to “The Holocaust Research Project” which is a True Believer website. To get the whole story, you have to go to a Denier website as well. You are only getting one side of the story, not the whole truth.

          Comment by furtherglory — July 16, 2016 @ 2:10 pm

          • “You provided a link to “The Holocaust Research Project” which is a True Believer website. To get the whole story, you have to go to a Denier website as well. You are only getting one side of the story, not the whole truth.”

            No, that is the truth.
            I’ve been to denier websites.

            Comment by Jeff K. — July 16, 2016 @ 2:19 pm

            • You wrote: “No, that is the truth.
              I’ve been to denier websites.”

              I think you need a class in logic. You are saying that True Believer websites are true because they are True Believer websites, and denial websites are wrong because they are denial websites.

              I started off as a True Believer, but I became a denier after I visited the camps and saw the evidence for myself.

              Comment by furtherglory — July 16, 2016 @ 2:29 pm

              • You wrote: “No, that is the truth.
                I’ve been to denier websites.”

                “I think you need a class in logic. You are saying that True Believer websites are true because they are True Believer websites, and denial websites are wrong because they are denial websites.”

                No, what I’m saying is that history websites convey the truth and denier websites convey a warped agenda designed to distort the truth and fool the unwary.

                Comment by Jeff K. — July 16, 2016 @ 3:40 pm

                • You wrote: “I’m saying is that history websites convey the truth and denier websites convey a warped agenda….”

                  I found this website which lists the denier websites and the True Believer websites. My scrapbookpages.com website is not on either list.

                  http://www.ipl.org/div/pfarch/entry/81848

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 16, 2016 @ 4:11 pm

                • Hahaha I love it. The circumcised cock chugging troll misses the whole point. While goyim around Europe were dying of judeo-Bolshevik forced starvation, or pushing wheelbarrows with a billion Reichsmarks to buy a loaf of bread, his kin have millions in art and jewelry.

                  Yet, y’all were innocent, right Hasbara boy?

                  Comment by Schlageter — July 17, 2016 @ 5:52 am

                • “Hahaha I love it. The circumcised cock chugging troll misses the whole point. While goyim around Europe were dying of judeo-Bolshevik forced starvation, or pushing wheelbarrows with a billion Reichsmarks to buy a loaf of bread, his kin have millions in art and jewelry.

                  Yet, y’all were innocent, right Hasbara boy?”

                  You love chugging circumcised cock?

                  You really are a freaky Nazi, suckgeter. I don’t think your fellow Nazi butt-boys would appreciate your weird circumcised obsession. They all prefer their bratwurst uncut.

                  Back to the point:

                  You really are just as stupid as Jim when it comes to history.

                  Comment by Jeff k. — July 17, 2016 @ 6:48 am

    • Cute to see you seemingly believe that Jewish wealth came/comes from an honest job, Jeff. Jewish wealth was/is the result of the plunder of peoples by a pack of capitalistic alien hyenas. That’s why the coexistence between Jews and Goyim will never be possible. Every time a genuine civil rights activist emerges and restitution time finally comes, the Jewish thieves flabbergast and sincerely feel cheated and robbed as if their parasitic activities were a real job deserving salary. Even arrogant Mafiosi don’t dare to do that when police seized the product of their criminal activities. Only the shameless kike dares to do that. Amazing race…

      Comment by hermie — July 18, 2016 @ 1:22 am

      • “Cute to see you seemingly believe that Jewish wealth came/comes from an honest job, Jeff. Jewish wealth was/is the result of the plunder of peoples by a pack of capitalistic alien hyenas. That’s why the coexistence between Jews and Goyim will never be possible. Every time a genuine civil rights activist emerges and restitution time finally comes, the Jewish thieves flabbergast and sincerely feel cheated and robbed as if their parasitic activities were a real job deserving salary. Even arrogant Mafiosi don’t dare to do that when police seized the product of their criminal activities. Only the shameless kike dares to do that. Amazing race…”

        Are you calling Hitler a civil rights activist?

        The rest is nonsense, a gaggle of stereotypical BS that only conspiraloons and crazy nut jobs like Eric Hunt take seriously.

        Comment by Jeff K. — July 18, 2016 @ 6:58 am

        • You wrote: “The rest is nonsense, a gaggle of stereotypical BS that only conspiraloons and crazy nut jobs like Eric Hunt take seriously.”

          I wrote about Eric Hunt on this blog post:
          https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/if-you-insist-on-answers-to-your-questions-you-could-be-morally-ill/

          Comment by furtherglory — July 18, 2016 @ 7:14 am

        • Jeff wrote: “Are you calling Hitler a civil rights activist?”

          Yes, I am.

          Gandhi kicked the British alien out of his country and so restored his people’s freedom & independence, thus he was a civil rights activist.
          Hitler kicked the Jewish alien out of his country and so restored his people’s freedom & independence, thus he was a civil rights activist.

          Comment by hermie — July 19, 2016 @ 1:55 pm

          • Let me ask you a question. Actually anyone can chime in here. After listening to George Carlin and watching Penn and Teller,they’ve made some valid points about BS in the bible (Carlon mentioned how he was bought up catholic. He said he’s tried to believe there is a ,God”,but he don’t see how). So I got to studying on the Jews in the desert for 40 years (yes I’ve heard the joke,someone dropped a quarter). I can’t buy into that anymore. I got to studying on this. The Old Testament was pretty much written for the Jews . So they can say,we wandered for forty years. From what I understand,there was 2 million of them ( they love their “million” numbers). You got 2 million Jews in the desert. If you’re in the desert for 40,you’re gonna need a shitload of water and food. They bought livestock . Gotta water and feed them. How many of the Jews were there,that we’d call,”senior citizens”? They don’t hold up to well in extreme heat. Don’t forget,at night,you’ll freeze your nads off. So we’re gonna lose a lot of elderly Jews along the way. Next we got the infants ( I don’t care what anyone says,they were doing the big nasty on the way). Infants can’t handle extreme temps. Now getting back to water and food. How in the hell are you gonna be able to transport that much cattle and water,to sustain your life for 40 years? Most guys like to think they don’t need a road map. I’m not of them. I get lost with my Rand McNally. Once again,40 years. Even I can’t get that lost. I looked it up. To walk a thousand miles,under normal circumstance,it would take a133 days. Since they were dragging the kids and grandma and grandpa along,I’ll double that number. I don’t know the distance they traveled,but it’s impossible to accept 40 years (bible seems to have a fetish for the number 40). That many people. Crossing that many miles. You’re gonna end up with a lot of stiffs. From what I’ve heard,folks are always digging for evidence,that the Hebs were there . They come up empty handed. Yes. I understand this is the desert. The desert is like a greedy bitch,takes what she wants and you don’t ever see itagain. Now with that many people,someone should’ve found something by now. I’m pretty sure a shit load of Jews died on the way,yet nobody has ever found dick. I’d settle if they found a petrified turd,but they haven’t . Now the Jews pretty much wrote how they wanted the Old Testament to be. 2 million Jews piss God off,so they write down,he shit on them. Christians read the shit and the Jews get what they want,pity. Now we get to the 20th and the Jews have their lackeys that write down their tale of woe. Now I’m not much on the “mystery” figure on the grassy knoll at Dealey Plaza or dead aliens at Area 51. I’m not much into conspiracy. However it looks like the Jews have putting their little game into play,since the days of the bible. I guess what I’m trying to get at,is this. Have the Jews been trying to pull a con job from day one? A lot of the claims they make throughout history,seem to be a bit to incredible.

            Comment by Tim — July 20, 2016 @ 2:20 pm

          • Jeff wrote: “Are you calling Hitler a civil rights activist?”

            “Yes, I am.

            Gandhi kicked the British alien out of his country and so restored his people’s freedom & independence, thus he was a civil rights activist.
            Hitler kicked the Jewish alien out of his country and so restored his people’s freedom & independence, thus he was a civil rights activist.”

            First, you are the first person I’ve ever known to call Hitler a “Civil Rights Activist.”

            Second, a civil rights activist fights for the rights of minorities, not the majority. By definition the Jews in Germany were a very small minority. Plus, these were ethnic Germans, they were just a religious minority. Hitler oppressed a minority, which is the furthest thing from a “Civil Rights Activist.”

            Third, Gandhi advocated peaceful protest. Hitler blustered, threatened and initimidated to get what he wanted.

            Finally, you have the biggest man crush I’ve ever seen…..it’s kinda creepy that it’s directed towards a man who’s been dead for 71 years.

            Comment by Jeff K. — July 21, 2016 @ 8:24 pm

            • I’ve had a crush on Eva Braun,Jane Mansfield and Janis Joplin. Does that make me creepy? Other than that,I can respect where you’re coming from on your comment. Now with the way America is,a white boy can be a minority. Think about it. You got so many nations coming into America ,that white can be made up of a lot of nations. Poles are white. Swiss are white. Australians are white. Yet nobody wants to recognize their ethnic background. They just want to toss them all into a group called,”whites”. That’s not being fair to them. They’re denied their individual background . We seperate Asians into seperate groups. African Americans are given their group. We even recognize Latinos as their own group. With that being said,the individual nations within the whites,should have the opportunity to be identified separately . There’d be a whole bunch of minorities there.

              Comment by Tim — July 21, 2016 @ 9:54 pm

            • Jeff wrote: “First, you are the first person I’ve ever known to call Hitler a “Civil Rights Activist.””

              Never watched American History X?😉

              Jeff wrote: “Second, a civil rights activist fights for the rights of minorities, not the majority. By definition the Jews in Germany were a very small minority. Plus, these were ethnic Germans, they were just a religious minority. Hitler oppressed a minority, which is the furthest thing from a “Civil Rights Activist.””

              False. Ghandi (and others) kicked the British-Jewish minority out of power in India. Nelson Mandela (and others) kicked the White Boer-British minority out of power in South Africa. And they are both depicted by Jew-owned Western media and academia as superheroes of civil rights for doing that. Hitler kicked the minority now heading all Western countries out of power in Germany and he’s unsurprisingly hated for doing that. That specific minority won’t let others realize there’s life, liberty and happiness out of Jewish tyranny, for obvious reasons.

              No Jew has ever claimed and will ever claim that the ‘German’ Jews of the 1930s and 1940s were ethnic Germans. That’s ridiculous and scientifically/biologically incorrect. C’mon. Stop ridiculing yourself. ‘German’ Jews were/are as much ethnic Germans as White Americans are ethnic American Indians/natives.

              Jeff wrote: “Third, Gandhi advocated peaceful protest. Hitler blustered, threatened and initimidated to get what he wanted.”

              Easy to be in favor of non-violence when you don’t have choice. Did the US founding fathers kicked the British imperialists out of US territory through non-violent means? Of course not. If they had done that, all Americans would today keep celebrating the birthday of Queen Elisabeth II every year. And Malcom X is still depicted as a human rights activists despite the violent means he used to advocate. Would you feel better if I called Hitler a freedom fighter rather than a civil rights activist?

              Comment by hermie — July 22, 2016 @ 8:08 am


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