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July 25, 2016

Is Donald Trump the new Hitler?

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 9:05 am

According to a news article, which you can read in full here, the answer to the question in the title of my blog post today is “Yes, Donald Trump is the new Hitler.”

The following quote is from the news article:

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Likening any modern politician to Hitler is a dodgy errand. And while people have been making the comparison this year, it’s usually unfair and inapt. Hitler was ultimate evil. Trump is no mass murderer; Trump is no Nazi; Trump has launched no wars.

But to any serious student of Hitler’s frightening and unforeseen rise to power in Germany, the recurring echoes in Trump’s speeches, interviews and his underlying thinking have become too blatant to overlook.

No resemblance has been stronger than Trump’s claim that he “alone” could rescue America from its misery. Hitler famously conjured the model of “the genius, the great man” who alone held the key to a country’s destiny. Calling democracy “a joke,” Hitler fiercely disdained what he called “weak majorities.” Progress and civilization could be achieved only through “the genius and energy of a great personality,” wrote Hitler in “Mein Kampf,” his racist political manifesto. Among the great personalities he included Frederick the Great of Prussia, Napoleon Bonaparte, Otto von Bismarck and, by implication, himself.

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Most people would think that it is a great insult to compare anyone to Hitler. But what was Hitler really like?

When construction started on the Sachsenhausen concentration camp in the summer of 1936, Nazi Germany was the envy of the Western world. From the depths of the Great Depression in 1932, Hitler had achieved an “economic miracle” in Germany in less than three years.

In 1936, there was, as yet, no sign of Nazi aggression, nor any attempt at world domination by Germany. Gertrude Stein, the famous Jewish writer, who was a mentor to Ernest Hemingway, even suggested in 1937 that Hitler should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Because of the Nazi program of nationalism, the German people had regained their self respect after the humiliating Treaty of Versailles, which Germany was forced to sign at the end of World War I. They now had great pride in their ethnicity and their country. No people in the world were more patriotic than the Germans in 1936 and no other world leader had the total dedication to his country that Adolph Hitler had.

The ordinary Germans were satisfied with their lives and had no reason to fear the concentration camps, nor the Gestapo. Hitler was a hero to the 127 million ethnic Germans throughout Europe, whom he wanted to unite into the Greater German Empire, a dream that had been discussed in his native Austria for over 50 years. In less than four years, this dream would be accomplished when Austria, parts of Poland that had formerly been German territory, Luxembourg, the French provinces of Alsace and Lorraine, and the Sudetenland were combined with Germany to form the Greater German Reich.

In 1936, Hitler was more loved and admired than all the other world leaders put together. He was also the only world leader who was actively helping the Zionists with their plan to reclaim Palestine as their country.

While America and the rest of Europe were still in the depths of the depression caused by the stock market crash in October 1929, Germany had stabilized its economy and had virtually eliminated unemployment.

Unlike the other countries in Europe in 1936, Nazi Germany was doing very  well, thanks in part to American investment capital. Many American businessmen, led by auto maker Henry Ford, supported Hitler and his Fascist form of government. Other prominent Americans who supported Hitler included Joseph P. Kennedy (the father of President John F. Kennedy), and Prescott Bush (the grandfather of President George W. Bush) and Charles Lindbergh.

Meanwhile, the American government was drifting to the liberal left; Communist refugees like playwright Bertold Brecht and Jewish refugees like Albert Einstein were flocking to America and their influence was strong in American politics. In the 1936 presidential election in America, Al Smith, who had run as the Democratic candidate in 1928 against Herbert Hoover, accused fellow Democrat President Roosevelt of being a Communist.

Hitler had thumbed his nose at the Versailles Treaty by stopping the payment of reparations to France and Great Britain, and a massive program of industrialization had restored Germany to full employment, compared to the 20% unemployment in America in 1936. Roosevelt had copied many of the social welfare programs in Germany, including Social Security, but America was still struggling to recover from the depression.

The workers in Nazi Germany enjoyed unprecedented social benefits such as paid vacations under the Strength Through Joy program (Kraft durch Freude). Factory workers listened to classical music as they worked, and took showers before going home. In order to demonstrate their importance to the country, workers were allowed to march in Nazi parades, carrying shovels on their shoulders just like the soldiers who marched with their rifles.

Everything in Nazi Germany was clean and orderly; there were no slums; the trains ran on time. By 1938, the crime rate was at an all-time low because repeat offenders were being sent to a concentration camp after they had completed their second sentence. Anyone who did not have a permanent address and some visible means of support was hauled off to Dachau and put to work.

The political parties of the opposition (Communists and Social Democrats) had been banned in Germany; political dissidents were being locked up; there was no more bomb throwing or revolutionary fighting in the streets. There were no more crippling general strikes because the trade unions had been banned to prevent the Communists from organizing the workers.

A healthy lifestyle was encouraged by the Nazis and group calisthenics for young people were compulsory. Family values were the order of the day: abortion was banned; homosexuals and prostitutes were imprisoned; women were encouraged to be homemakers, and mothers with four or more children would shortly be awarded military style medals for serving their country.

In Germany, it was safe to walk the city streets at night; no bars were needed on the windows of German homes to keep the criminal element out; all the social misfits were being sent away to the concentration camps; bums and vagrants were no longer allowed to beg on the streets.

Money that had formerly been spent to care for institutionalized persons with mental and physical disabilities was now being used for other purposes as the mentally ill and the severely disabled were being put to death at Hartheim.

The Nazis were attempting to achieve a perfect world like Disneyland’s Main Street, which ends at a replica of Germany’s Neuschwanstein Castle. Germany’s advanced technology was the Tomorrowland of its day.

In America today, the backlash from the Nazi ideology of racialism and nationalism has become the impetus for the creation of today’s Politically Correct world of diversity and tolerance, which is the exact opposite of what it was like in Nazi Germany.

Unfortunately, the end result of Hitler’s policies was the Holocaust, for which he can never be forgiven.

 

296 Comments »

  1. We have here the reusable straw man trotted out whenever there is a need to sucker the gullible into knee-jerk compliance. When this ploy is pointed out the mindless dupes won’t engage their critical faculties but retreat into parroting the propaganda pablum they have been weaned on since the 1930’s and sanctified at the Nuremberg show trials.

    Comment by John Mortl — July 31, 2016 @ 12:45 pm

    • You wrote: “…the Nuremberg show trials.”
      Funny you should mentionthe Nuremberg show trials. I blogged about this at

      https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/08/27/the-nuremberg-show-trials-aka-the-nuremberg-international-military-tribunal/

      Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 1:09 pm

    • “We have here the reusable straw man trotted out whenever there is a need to sucker the gullible into knee-jerk compliance. When this ploy is pointed out the mindless dupes won’t engage their critical faculties but retreat into parroting the propaganda pablum they have been weaned on since the 1930’s and sanctified at the Nuremberg show trials.”

      I will agree that the whole Hitler comparison is over used.

      Why not Stalin? After all, both are just the opposite sides of the same coin.

      Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 1:39 pm

  2. @Hermie:
    Jeff wrote: “Maybe you should track things down before you bring them up.”

    “Why? This is the comment section of a blog, not an academic conference. Perhaps you should just take it a little easier.”

    That’s new. So, we can now just say things and not provide any proof (not that you do, anyway)?

    Ok.
    Hitler ordered the killing of Europe’s Jews on April 20th, 1941. He said he did it as a special birthday present for himself and as a way to juice people up for the upcoming invasion of the USSR.
    Wow, that’s liberating.

    Jeff wrote: “What I want to see is where you got your information so that I can judge it for myself. Then I can see what it matches from other sources. Then we can discuss it.”

    “Legitimate approach. At last…

    Something I read years ago. Don’t remember where.”

    Ok. So, nothing of merit, then. I’ll not ask you again.

    Comment by Jeff K. — July 27, 2016 @ 1:54 pm

    • Its Hermie…. His entire basis of history is completely based on news papers…

      Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 12:47 am

      • And again, nothing from Hermie.

        No answers, just sliding away.

        Comment by Jeff K. — July 28, 2016 @ 7:53 pm

        • Jeff wrote: “No answers, just sliding away.”

          I had already answered your empty rambling. Upset that I didn’t comment on your pseudo-humorous story? Post something actually funny. Perhaps I’ll feel like commenting on it. Who knows?

          Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 7:19 am

      • Don’t forget random quotes from Zionists.

        Comment by Jeff K. — July 28, 2016 @ 7:55 pm

        • Yep

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 7:58 pm

    • Jeff wrote: “That’s new. So, we can now just say things and not provide any proof (not that you do, anyway)?”

      As if you had already done otherwise.😉

      Comment by hermie — July 28, 2016 @ 6:01 pm

      • Jeff wrote: “That’s new. So, we can now just say things and not provide any proof (not that you do, anyway)?”

        “As if you had already done otherwise.😉”

        Jeff:

        Documents, books written by real historians, reports, witness statements.

        Hermie:

        Fakes and forgeries!!!!!!!

        Jeff:

        Oh, so you have evidence to the contrary?

        Hermie:

        No.

        Comment by Jeff K. — July 28, 2016 @ 7:59 pm

        • He has news papers.

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 10:42 am

    • “I remember that in this connection he [Hitler] quoted especially the former French Minister of Aviation, Pierre Cot, who had called Bohemia and Moravia, that is Czechoslovakia, the “airplane carrier” against Germany. I believe it was Reich Marshal Goering who already mentioned that at that time we received intelligence reports of Russian pilots or Russian missions being on Czech airdromes.” – Ribbentrop, March 29, 1946.

      Comment by hermie — August 11, 2016 @ 7:54 am

      • “I remember that in this connection he [Hitler] quoted especially the former French Minister of Aviation, Pierre Cot, who had called Bohemia and Moravia, that is Czechoslovakia, the “airplane carrier” against Germany.”

        So, heresay from a man on trial for his life, what a shock. The above quote doesn’t mention the Soviets, BTW.

        ” I believe”

        Key word here is “believe,” so again, heresay.

        “it was Reich Marshal Goering who already mentioned that at that time we received intelligence reports of Russian pilots or Russian missions being on Czech airdromes.” – Ribbentrop, March 29, 1946.”

        Again, heresay. Did Goering or Ribbentrop provide said intelligence reports? Was this confirmed by any outside source?

        Why are you still grinding on this, anyway? We’ve all moved on.

        Comment by Jeff K — August 11, 2016 @ 8:23 am

        • Jeff wrote: “Why are you still grinding on this, anyway?”

          Because I wasn’t able to remember where I had read this one when we were talking about this topic some weeks ago. And since I recently came across it by accident, I thought you would be glad to finally get a source for this specific claim.

          Jeff wrote: ” We’ve all moved on.”

          Wow! What a fabulous curiosity!! I think the historian in you is dead for good.😉

          Jeff wrote: “So, heresay from a man on trial for his life, what a shock.”

          No doubt you would be singing another song if this ‘hearsay from a man on trial for his life’ dealt with the use of gas chambers, wouldn’t you?

          Jeff wrote: “The above quote doesn’t mention the Soviets, BTW.”

          True. Perhaps that guy was saying that Czechoslovakia was being turned into a Pygmee airplane carrier after all. Who knows?

          Jeff wrote: “Key word here is “believe,” so again, heresay.”

          Yes, funny. Sounds like Hoettl claiming ‘Eichmann told me that we’ve killed 6 million Jews so far.’ BS evidence indeed.

          Jeff wrote: “Again, heresay. Did Goering or Ribbentrop provide said intelligence reports?”

          I doubt they did. I doubt they could. The Nuremberg IMT had a name for such documents: irrelevant…

          Jeff wrote: “Was this confirmed by any outside source?”

          I don’t know.

          Comment by hermie — August 11, 2016 @ 5:20 pm

          • Oh, gawd, I was hoping to avoid another endless debate but, ok:

            Jeff wrote: “Why are you still grinding on this, anyway?”

            “Because I wasn’t able to remember where I had read this one when we were talking about this topic some weeks ago. And since I recently came across it by accident, I thought you would be glad to finally get a source for this specific claim.”

            I appreciate it but nothing you provided makes me believe there were Soviet aircraft based in Czechoslovakia. If nothing else we should have British or French intelligence regarding this….undoubtedly they would take a keen interest in Soviet aircraft based in Czechoslovakia….but since you brought it up I’ll let you look for those sources.
            Another source of intelligence for you to consider would be the Poles. They also would be concerned about Soviet aircraft based in Czechoslovakia.

            Jeff wrote: ” We’ve all moved on.”

            “Wow! What a fabulous curiosity!! I think the historian in you is dead for good. ;-)”

            No, I simply don’t put much stock in the Soviets having aircraft in Czechoslovakia. I’ve never seen any indication of that in any literature I’ve read.

            However, as always, I’ll read anything you provide.

            Jeff wrote: “So, heresay from a man on trial for his life, what a shock.”

            “No doubt you would be singing another song if this ‘hearsay from a man on trial for his life’ dealt with the use of gas chambers, wouldn’t you?”

            Well, in that case he would be telling the truth…like Hoess.

            Jeff wrote: “The above quote doesn’t mention the Soviets, BTW.”

            “True. Perhaps that guy was saying that Czechoslovakia was being turned into a Pygmee airplane carrier after all. Who knows?”

            Well, do some research and find out.

            Jeff wrote: “Key word here is “believe,” so again, heresay.”

            “Yes, funny. Sounds like Hoettl claiming ‘Eichmann told me that we’ve killed 6 million Jews so far.’ BS evidence indeed.”

            Well, Eichman confirmed things at his trial so I guess it works out.

            Jeff wrote: “Again, heresay. Did Goering or Ribbentrop provide said intelligence reports?”

            “I doubt they did. I doubt they could. The Nuremberg IMT had a name for such documents: irrelevant…”

            They had defense attorneys, are you saying they didn’t do their jobs?

            Jeff wrote: “Was this confirmed by any outside source?”

            “I don’t know.”

            Where is your curiosity Hermie????

            😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

            Comment by Jeff K. — August 11, 2016 @ 5:56 pm

            • Jeff wrote: “Oh, gawd, I was hoping to avoid another endless debate but, ok:”

              No endless debate needed, I think.

              Jeff wrote: “I appreciate it but nothing you provided makes me believe there were Soviet aircraft based in Czechoslovakia. If nothing else we should have British or French intelligence regarding this….undoubtedly they would take a keen interest in Soviet aircraft based in Czechoslovakia….but since you brought it up I’ll let you look for those sources. Another source of intelligence for you to consider would be the Poles. They also would be concerned about Soviet aircraft based in Czechoslovakia.”

              I don’t believe that archives finally declassified are very useful. Those are very likely sorted and purged before any release. Understandable given the stakes involved. Never disclose very important and new things. Always disclose quite harmless things such as Operation Northwoods but nothing else.

              Jeff wrote: ”No, I simply don’t put much stock in the Soviets having aircraft in Czechoslovakia. I’ve never seen any indication of that in any literature I’ve read.However, as always, I’ll read anything you provide.”

              Now you have. I doubt orthodox history writing & telling – the victors’ self-serving narrative – would let anyone justify the establishment of the Protectorate of Bohemia-Moravia.

              Jeff wrote: “Well, in that case he would be telling the truth…like Hoess.”

              Because the truth is the story somebody wants to hear…

              Jeff wrote: “Well, Eichman confirmed things at his trial so I guess it works out.”

              And ‘witches’ confirmed they had had sex with the Devil at their ‘trials,’ so I guess that must be true too.

              If memory serves me right, Eichmann denied that he had said that to Hoettl anyway.

              Jeff wrote: “They had defense attorneys, are you saying they didn’t do their jobs?”

              No, I’m not. I’m saying their defense attorneys were helpless in rigged mock trials as the IMT.

              Jeff wrote: “Where is your curiosity Hermie????”

              Mostly in the Holohoax and the other unconnected topics that I call my interests.

              Comment by hermie — August 12, 2016 @ 2:47 am

      • What does it take to be a child of a holo survivor. Hey,they got a good thing going on. I was on the internet today. They’re getting an increase in benefits. In addition to that,social security don’t hold their holo prison survivor benefits against them when it comes to their social security benefits. That’s a pretty sweet deal. Us poor white boys are gettin f–ked

        Comment by Tim — August 11, 2016 @ 8:32 am

  3. It’s said that every day they are still uncovering 15 unexplored bombs from Britannia, I can’t imagine how many are still left over from ww2 in Germany.

    Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 10:36 am

    • I heard about unexploded ordnance in the country side in the UK. They were talking about a lot of nazi planes would get shot down,in the British country side. There’s a lot of historians that supposedly go out with metal detectors looking to recover old nazi bombers. Is there really that much left over from the war?

      Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 4:07 pm

  4. FG: “In 1936, there was, as yet, no sign of Nazi aggression, nor any attempt at world domination by Germany.”

    The Nazi’s never made any attempt of world domination… They did try to invade into Russia to take up a large bulk of territory though. In 1934 the German’s were also threatening the Czechs… Propaganda like this came out from the Germans to create paranoia.

    Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:16 am

    • Click wrote: ” Propaganda like this came out from the Germans to create paranoia.”

      With their specific location (between Berlin and Vienna), the Czech lands were a place to watch for national security purposes. And German intelligence reports indicated that the area was being turned into a Soviet aircraft carrier. That was not paranoia, not more paranoia than the US government worried by the establishment of a Soviet military bases between New York City and Washington DC during the Cold War.

      Comment by hermie — July 26, 2016 @ 1:42 pm

      • “With their specific location (between Berlin and Vienna), the Czech lands were a place to watch for national security purposes. And German intelligence reports indicated that the area was being turned into a Soviet aircraft carrier. That was not paranoia, not more paranoia than the US government worried by the establishment of a Soviet military bases between New York City and Washington DC during the Cold War.”

        What intelligence reports?

        Not newspaper articles or similar propoganda, real intelligence reports from the military or civilian intelligence agencies.

        Comment by Jeff K. — July 26, 2016 @ 1:50 pm

        • German intelligence reports of that time, as I said. But don’t worry. The defeated’s intelligence reports, propaganda, etc. are always ‘just a pack of lies,’ ‘Nazi propaganda,’ and similar names. Irrelevant. Of no use to debunk your dear victors’ narrative. You can just relax and have another drink.😉

          Comment by hermie — July 26, 2016 @ 2:09 pm

          • “German intelligence reports of that time, as I said. But don’t worry. The defeated’s intelligence reports, propaganda, etc. are always ‘just a pack of lies,’ ‘Nazi propaganda,’ and similar names. Irrelevant. Of no use to debunk your dear victors’ narrative. You can just relax and have another drink. ;-)”

            So, “No Proof” Hermie strikes again.

            So, just to sum up:

            We have alleged intelligence reports from German sources that state Soviet aircraft on Czech soil.

            Yet, somehow, those alleged intelligence reports don’t seem to exist.

            So, we have allegations that can’t be proved, so, they have no merit.

            Comment by Jeff K. — July 26, 2016 @ 2:25 pm

            • Vague memories. Something I’ve read a while ago. Why do you ask anyway? Would you accept some Nazi reports as evidence of anything differing from the victors’ narrative???

              Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 6:37 am

              • “Vague memories. Something I’ve read a while ago.”

                Maybe you should track things down before you bring them up.

                “Why do you ask anyway? Would you accept some Nazi reports as evidence of anything differing from the victors’ narrative???”

                What I want to see is where you got your information so that I can judge it for myself.
                Then I can see what it matches from other sources.

                Then we can discuss it.

                The problem is that you never provide anything (well, except newspaper articles and quotes from random Zionists) to back your claims.

                Comment by Jeff K. — July 27, 2016 @ 9:25 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Maybe you should track things down before you bring them up.”

                  Why? This is the comment section of a blog, not an academic conference. Perhaps you should just take it a little easier.

                  Jeff wrote: “What I want to see is where you got your information so that I can judge it for myself. Then I can see what it matches from other sources. Then we can discuss it.”

                  Legitimate approach. At last…

                  Something I read years ago. Don’t remember where.

                  Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 12:24 pm

                • Cause he generally provides primary sources Hermie.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 12:47 am

      • Okay. As is par for the course with me,I’ve walked in right in the middle of the movie. What’s up with the Ruskie carrier? I’m guessing it wasn’t ww2. From what I understand,the Russian navy really didn’t amount to squat back in ww2. Something about their Baltic fleet was stuck in port from mines and weather. So I’m guessing this flat top had nothing to do with ww2. Then again,I could’ve misread everything .

        Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 4:23 pm

      • No Hermie… It was Paranoia… No one should be able to even comprehend the idea that the Czechs stood a chance against the Germans…

        Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 5:51 pm

        • German propaganda depicted Czechoslovakia as a ‘Soviet aircraft carrier’ and the international press often depicted it as a ‘deployment zone’ for Soviet forces due to the location of Czechoslovakia and the pro-Soviet sympathies of the Czechoslovakian leaders (especially Benes). So it was not a matter of Czechs vs. Germans but of Soviets vs. Germans.

          Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 6:47 am

          • “German propaganda”

            That’s the key, propaganda.

            “depicted Czechoslovakia as a ‘Soviet aircraft carrier’ and the international press”

            What “international press?”

            “often depicted it as a ‘deployment zone’ for Soviet forces due to the location of Czechoslovakia and the pro-Soviet sympathies of the Czechoslovakian leaders (especially Benes).”

            Czechoslovakia’s relations with the USSR were very good but so far you have not provided proof that there were Soviet troops or aircraft stationed there. Hitler’s beef with Czechoslovakia was over the Sudetenland (officially) but the reality was that Hitler wanted Czechoslovakia for its strategic placement, access to natural resources and its industry, particularly its weapon industry (Skoda).

            “So it was not a matter of Czechs vs. Germans but of Soviets vs. Germans.”

            Sorry, wrong. It was Germany against Czechoslovakia.

            Comment by Jeff K. — July 27, 2016 @ 9:32 am

            • Jeff wrote: “That’s the key, propaganda.”

              The word ‘propaganda’ doesn’t imply the use of lies. Just comes from the word ‘propagate.’ The pejorative meaning of the word ‘propaganda’ is fairly new. Do you think that Goebbels would have headed a ‘ministry of propaganda’ if today’s widespread meaning existed in Germany at that time? Liars rarely inform their listeners that they are lying or are going to lie. For obvious reasons. In fact, Nazi propagandists didn’t believe in the benefits of lying in the long run. They rather used to deride the British-Jewish propensity to lie shamelessly and constantly.

              Jeff wrote: “What “international press?””

              There are numerous newspaper archives on the internet. You can look for news articles about that by yourself.

              Jeff wrote: “so far you have not provided proof that there were Soviet troops or aircraft stationed there”

              Did I say I ever wanted to do that?? I’m afraid I’m not interested in the Czechoslovak affair enough to investigate this topic.

              Jeff wrote: “Sorry, wrong. It was Germany against Czechoslovakia.”

              Not in the poster/pic we’re talking about. The one posted by Click. Remember?

              Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 12:53 pm

          • There you go… Its called “German propaganda”… This entire argument ends there.

            Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 11:54 am

            • I’m afraid only your reasoning and knowledge end here, honey.🙂

              Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 12:56 pm

              • I am afraid the argument ends here.

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 1:54 pm

                • I’ve noticed that you are quite often willing to end any discussion very quickly, Click. Looks like the behavior of a worried liar aware of the fragility of his/her case.

                  Comment by hermie — July 28, 2016 @ 3:32 am

                • Not really Hermie…

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 6:22 pm

  5. Furtherglory wrote: “In 1936, there was, as yet, no sign of Nazi aggression, nor any attempt at world domination by Germany.”

    Nazi aggression? Attempt at world domination??? C’mon, FG. Gross Allied deceptive propaganda. Mere implementation of the French proverb ‘He who wants to drown/kill his dog, first claims that the latter has rabies.’ Basic common sense, as well as the old books on the rules of warfare, sees that real war guilt goes to the side that made a war inescapable, not to the side that shot the first bullet or/and lost a war. The comic books’ notion of a good side finally prevailing over an utterly evil side is just childish BS for air-headed democratic sheeple. The victors’ lie about an alleged Nazi aggression and attempt at world domination is nothing but comic books’ storytelling and self-revering myth. One could say that aggression is in the eye of the beholder and that any anti-British, anti-French or anti-American observer could have seen hundreds of aggressions deserving military intervention and obliteration in the actions of British, French and US ‘dogs.’ Imagine what would have happened if any European nation had hypocritically declared its alleged love for US natives every time the colonizers of America had met a new ‘Indian’ tribe during their march to the west. And imagine what would have happened if some countries had declared war on Britain and France every time the British and French Imperialists had planted their flag somewhere. The results would have been hundreds of wars and the doom of the United States of America, the British Empire and the French Empire. Britain didn’t build its world empire by bleeding itself for the interests of small countries in Eastern Europe. British built its world empire by obliterating any rising European nation with the help of the 3rd and 4th European powers. In 1939, under pressure from the White House, Britain just kept implementing its secular hegemonic policy of ‘balance of power’ by obliterating the rising Third Reich under a false pretext. That outcome could occur only because Britain and America had made any peaceful settlement of the German-Polish disputes impossible. Thus the United States and Britain are in fact the side actually guilty for WW2. But since nobody has ever seen, nor will ever see, a victor blame himself from any kind of war guilt, it seems that we’ll have to keep hearing the victors’ mendacious WW2 narrative for a long while…

    Comment by hermie — July 26, 2016 @ 7:41 am

    • edit: “Britain built its world empire” instead of “British built its world empire”

      Comment by hermie — July 26, 2016 @ 7:43 am

    • Then again,she could be using that to point out how history recorded that. A lot of the time I will reference ,”holocaust” or the 6 mill (or what ever the number is today) Jews killed in the holo. I’ve told everyone here,I’m still in the middle on this subject . So when I mention that shit,I do it as a stating point. Maybe that’s why FG words the shit the way she does. Everyone knows her position on this subject . That’s my perspective

      Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 8:00 am

      • Tim wrote: “I’m still in the middle on this subject . So when I mention that shit,I do it as a stating point. Maybe that’s why FG words the shit the way she does. Everyone knows her position on this subject . That’s my perspective”

        Maybe, Tim. But FG’s position on WW2 is less clear and widely known than her position on the Holohoax.

        Comment by hermie — July 26, 2016 @ 8:23 am

        • I can buy that. It just seems when the Jews tweek that point in history,they throw a monkey wrench into the whole problem. Facts we think we no about the entire subject of ww2,become extremely difficult to figure out. In the proverbial,”grand scheme of things”,the holo (what may or may not have happened there) is just another piece of the overall picture. The holo was not an event from ww2,that made everyone after,have to adapt to a whole “new”,way of living. The “bomb” did that for us. Did people build bomb shelters in their back yards cause of the holo? No. Did they make those hilarious,”duck and cover” short films because of the holo? No. Did people sweat for 13 days in October when the Reds put nukes in our backyard because of the holo? No. On a personal level, did I grow up sweating nuclear war or did I worry about the holo? The answer should be clear there. Like I said ,the holo was a small part of ww2. A person can’t tell me the legacy we leave all future generations was the holo. What we left them from ww2 is a way to wipe out mankind all together. Far as I’m concerned,killing people for who they may or may not be,is nothing new.

          Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 8:44 am

          • Your comment reveals your age, Tim. For the people younger than 30 or 35 years old, WW2 is just an insignificant background, the scenery of the holo. Reminds me the sarcastic comment of Jean-Marie Le Pen when harassed once again by a journalist about his famous sentence about the gas chambers as a detail of WW2. He said something like ‘I was wrong. WW2 was a detail of the gas chambers, not the other way round as I used to think.’ And young people don’t know either what a nuclear holocaust is. They couldn’t care less about nuclear weapons. Ironically, a few days after the nuclear bombings on Japan, Zionist Holo-propagandist Rabbi Wise intervened to say that anti-Semitism was more dangerous than nuclear bombs because it had just killed 6 million people. The crass liar was visibly very scared that the very real Japanese holocaust might outshine and annihilate his dear fictional Palestine-grabbing holocaust. A funny sight…

            Comment by hermie — July 26, 2016 @ 1:13 pm

            • Actually by letting people I did my tour in Nam,I figured that would’ve given my age up. They don’t give two shits,because they never had to live under the threat that one asshole was gonna start some shit,with the other. Khrushchev goes off the deep end and thinks it would be funny as hell to park some Nukes 90 mile from the United States . I was still a kid at that time,but I knew enough about what was going on,that I lost sleep. No. Kids now days can’t appreciate any of that. If anything ,they’re lucky

              Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 5:40 pm

  6. Excellent comparison FG! Hitler alsovtook up acting and speech classes so that he could appeal to people of The Fatherland and the world. Trump had to of done the same thing to be able to appeal to the American public when he hosted his show “The Apprentice” on television for years. He as Adolf, won the public opinions with his charm and charisma. This could be the beginning of the end of our Great USA. If he succeeds in building a wall, who knows if America will be a big concentration camp.

    Comment by sanbeagle — July 25, 2016 @ 4:08 pm

  7. Seriously? Hitler’s ‘regime’ ended with the holocost ???? WRONG, try again. Click, Hitler WAS gassed. Also, psychopath is a harsh word, and since we have little to no frame of reference of the German mind of the time, I suggest a HUGE leap of logic (and I use the term loosely). And that ANY and EVERYTHING we post, OPPOSING the mainstream mantra of the holohoax is dismissed out of hand, regardless of its merit. I think THAT’s psychopathic behavior, only because it’s the result of HOLOCAUSTOMANIA: Subscribing to the politically correct view of the holocost without question or discussion – rots the brain, corrupts the morals and creates a psychopath. The only cure is the truth provided by those who oppose and contend against the wholesale force feeding and consequent perversion of the myth of the holocost. (Diane King)

    Comment by Diane King — July 25, 2016 @ 1:49 pm

    • You never told me if you care about Bombing of Guernica… Well do you care or not?

      Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 25, 2016 @ 6:04 pm

      • I am intrigued ; are you the same person as Jeff K , ( he has had several pseudonyms over the years ) or maybe just a bored Holocaust Studies teacher ?

        Comment by peter — July 26, 2016 @ 6:07 am

        • “I am intrigued ; are you the same person as Jeff K , ( he has had several pseudonyms over the years ) or maybe just a bored Holocaust Studies teacher ?”

          We are not the same, Peter.

          Major difference:
          Click is a female college student, I’m a 46 year-old civil servant.

          Comment by Jeff K. — July 26, 2016 @ 6:23 am

          • You wrote: “We [Click & Jeff K] are not the same, Peter.”

            Both of you comment on my blog numerous times each day, and both of you are wrong in most of your comments.

            Comment by furtherglory — July 26, 2016 @ 6:56 am

            • “Both of you comment on my blog numerous times each day, and both of you are wrong in most of your comments.”

              Really? So far we’ve been right on most everything.

              Comment by Jeff K. — July 26, 2016 @ 7:22 am

            • Really? I was pretty sure that I stopped posting here for a while.

              Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 12:45 am

              • That’s why I asked what happened to ya. You were MIA for awhile. That’s when I told you Jeff said you were studying and taking tests

                Comment by Tim — July 28, 2016 @ 8:20 am

                • Ah, that makes sense.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 10:40 am

        • Not a teacher, and I am not Jeff.

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 9:19 am

          • However,you’re gonna be in deep do do,if your teacher in class catches you visiting this site with your phone. You gonna be like that kid in that Verizon commercial . He’s watching the b ball game on his phone and he gets stone cold, busted by the teacher . However you can go to the App Store. They got a totally bad ass Resident Evil game on there.

            Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 10:26 am

            • Lol. Nah it will be fine. I am in-between classes at the moment. I got about a half hour of free time.

              Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:31 am

              • Okay. Don’t need to end up in the deans office. You’ll be like the “Delta Tau Chi” in “Anmal House”. Dean Wormer be saying,”Miss Click. GPA. 0.0″

                Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 10:38 am

                • I am doing fine in my classes. I record each lecture just encase I need to revisit it.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:39 am

                • Okay. Don’t wanna end up on Dean Wormers office

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 10:49 am

                • I love Animal House.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 26, 2016 @ 12:42 pm

                • Sorry. I think I meant to send that to Miss Click. At any rate,Animal House kicked ass. I liked that one part with Belushi was great. “Over? Somebody say it was over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor”? That shit was all messed up. Then Belushi ODs on us and we’re left with 3rd rate comedians

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 5:51 pm

                • Oh, I just weighed in because I love the movie.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 26, 2016 @ 7:39 pm

                • It is a classic. I never realized it before,but John didn’t have that big of a part in the movie. It was one of “where are they know actors from animal house”. They said johns part wasn’t that big. The movie wouldn’t have been the movie without John .

                  Comment by Tim — July 27, 2016 @ 10:27 am

      • If it wasn’t for the bombing of Guenica, we wouldn’t have the beautiful painting from Pablo. So I guess it’s bitter sweet.

        Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 6:10 am

        • 😄 I guess San. Ether way I ask Diane as it generally get her to shut up. She has no way to justify the German bombing of that town. The level of destruction was disproportionate to the town’s strategic value.

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 9:22 am

          • Are you talking about Germans bombing a town,or is and the limies bombing a town? I’m asking,because what you described,sounds like Dresden

            Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 10:20 am

            • Its sort of like Dresden… Its the Germans bombing a Spanish down back during the civil war. In total around 300 died as of a direct result of the bombing and 592 died of an after result of the bombing… Unlike Dresden this site didn’t have factories (Dresden only had a few) but it had a radio link between it.

              Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:25 am

              • Click wrote: ” In total around 300 died as of a direct result of the bombing and 592 died of an after result of the bombing… ”

                Spanish Wikipedia says 126, not 300 directly and 500 later.

                The widespread depiction of the bombing on Guernica is another democratic propaganda hoax.

                The civilians of Guernica were not targeted. Some were killed because of a lack of visibility (due to the weather situation and fightings in that area). The Reds took advantage of the bombing to set fire to the city. The bombing was in fact requested to slow down the flight of Red troops. Basic warfare strategy and requirement. Nothing more.

                A telegram sent to the leader Condor Legion by the Third Section of the General Headquarters Staff at Salamanca, dated May 7, 1937, reads as follows:

                “I request Sander (General Speerle) to inform Berlin that Guenica, a town of fewer than five thousand inhabitants, was six kilometers from the fighting line is a highly important communications crossroad, has a factory for munitions, bombs and pistols; on the 26th it was a place for passage of units in flight and for the stationing of reserves. Front)line units requested directly to Aviation for the bombing of crossroads; this was carried out by the German and Italian airforce, and because of the lack of visibility, because of the smoke and clouds of dust, bombs from the planes hit the town.”

                And the Red airforce often bombed major cities far from the front such as Saragossa, Valladolid, Cordoba, Mellila and others. The Reds murdered over 300,000 Spanish civilians. But we are never told about that. We are always told the distorted story of the micro-bombing on Guernica.

                Click wrote: “Its sort of like Dresden”

                Not at all. Neither in its purpose & intent, nor in its scale.

                Comment by hermie — July 28, 2016 @ 6:14 am

                • You wrote: “And the Red airforce often bombed major cities far from the front such as Saragossa, Valladolid, Cordoba, Mellila and others. The Reds murdered over 300,000 Spanish civilians. But we are never told about that. We are always told the distorted story of the micro-bombing on Guernica.”

                  I wrote about the bombing of Germany in this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/the-killing-of-civilians-by-the-allies-in-world-war-ii-and-the-case-of-rudolf-merkel/

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 28, 2016 @ 10:06 am

                • Sources very Hermie… I think last time I checked the Spanish governments estimate was revised up to 153 people.

                  http://www.euskonews.com/0621zbk/elkar_es.html

                  The Basque government says it was something like 1300.

                  “The civilians of Guernica were not targeted. Some were killed because of a lack of visibility (due to the weather situation and fightings in that area). ”

                  Thats rather hard to say… especially when the city was bombed well pasted the limit of its strategic value.

                  A single factory doesn’t give it much value… All this aside the Strategic target was the communications line which went through the town.

                  “And the Red airforce often bombed major cities far from the front such as Saragossa, Valladolid, Cordoba, Mellila and others. ”

                  True, but these generally could be argue to not have been directed at civilians… Guernica was bombed well past its strategic value.

                  “We are always told the distorted story of the micro-bombing on Guernica.”

                  Not really… The city was practically completely destroyed.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 6:33 pm

                • Click wrote: “Sources very Hermie…”

                  No longer like wikipedia?

                  Click wrote: “I think last time I checked the Spanish governments estimate was revised up to 153 people.”

                  But you said 800 despite that. The word you’re looking for is LIAR.

                  Click wrote: “The Basque government says it was something like 1300.”

                  One propaganda lie or another, who cares?

                  Click wrote: “Thats rather hard to say… especially when the city was bombed well pasted the limit of its strategic value. A single factory doesn’t give it much value… All this aside the Strategic target was the communications line which went through the town.”

                  Hilarious from somebody claiming that Dresden was bombed for strategic purposes.

                  Click wrote: “True, but these generally could be argue to not have been directed at civilians… Guernica was bombed well past its strategic value. Not really… The city was practically completely destroyed.”

                  Destruction larged caused by Red fires. But the truth was/is of no use for democratic propaganda. So the groundless democratic fairy tales will continue to be repeated ad nauseam.

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 7:30 am

                • “No longer like wikipedia?”

                  When did I site Wikipedia?

                  “But you said 800 despite that. The word you’re looking for is LIAR.”

                  The Russian Archive says 800 people died… Though this number may not include the number whom died due to wounds from after the bombing… aka the 592 people which were mentioned. I would direct you to reading “V nebe ispanii”.

                  I also believe I advocate 300 people dying… My source for the 300 number Is the book “La Guerra Civil desde el Aire”

                  “One propaganda lie or another, who cares?”

                  Well they might be correct… The actual number they advocate is 1,654 people… though this is generally accepted as being inflated.

                  “Hilarious from somebody claiming that Dresden was bombed for strategic purposes.”

                  It was bombed for strategic purposes… but under the rules of proportionality the allies bombed Dresden past its value as well…

                  Dresden has over 100 factories which produced goods for the German war effort. employing more then 50,000 workers. This is much larger then the single factory of a town of 5000 people… These factories were producing armaments, torpedo parts, aircraft parts, field radios and telephones, steering elements for U-boats, specialized turbines for the Navy, X-ray equipment and precision optical instruments. Dresden also had rail road lines which supplied the eastern front… A similar supply line existed in Guernica but its importance was a lot smaller.

                  The level of destruction for Guernica is well past its strategic value and César Vidal Manzanares points this out a well.

                  “Destruction larged caused by Red fires. But the truth was/is of no use for democratic propaganda. So the groundless democratic fairy tales will continue to be repeated ad nauseam.”

                  Not really… The city was bombed in waves for a period of over an hour… for such a small town this seems unnecessary… As well planes strafing the roads leading out of the town doesn’t put off your fantasy of a justified bombing. Dresden can be argued that it had strategic value… The same for Guernica… But they both can just as easily be argued as being unjustified.

                  “We were about eighteen miles east of Guernica when Anton pulled to the side of the road jammed on the brakes and started shouting. He pointed wildly ahead, and my heart shot into my mouth, when I looked. Over the top of some small hills appeared a flock of planes. A dozen or so bombers were flying high. But down much lower, seeming just to skim the treetops were six Heinkel 52 fighters. The bombers flew on towards Guernica but the Heinkels, out for random plunder, spotted our car, and, wheeling like a flock of homing pigeons, they lined up the road – and our car.

                  Anton and I flung ourselves into a bomb hole, twenty yards to the side of the road. It was half filed with water, and we sprawled in the mud. We half knelt, half stood, with our heads buried in the muddy side of the carter.

                  After one good look at the Heinkels, I didn’t look up again until they had gone. That seemed hours later, but it was probably less than twenty minutes. The planes made several runs along the road. Machine-gun bullets plopped into the mud ahead, behind, all around us. I began to shiver from sheer fright. Only the day before Steer, an old hand now, had ‘briefed’ me about being strafed. ‘Lie still and as flat as you can. But don’t get up and start running, or you’ll be bowled over for certain.’

                  When the Heinkels departed, out of ammunition I presumed, Anton and I ran back to our car. Nearby a military car was burning fiercely. All we could do was drag two riddled bodies to the side of the road. I was trembling all over now, in the grip of the first real fear I’d ever experienced.”

                  – Noel Monks

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 10:39 am

                • Jeff wrote: “The Russian Archive says 800 people died… Though this number may not include the number whom died due to wounds from after the bombing… aka the 592 people which were mentioned. I would direct you to reading “V nebe ispanii”.”

                  Russian, my arse. The Soviet archives, the most reliable source on this planet.

                  Jeff wrote: “Well they might be correct… The actual number they advocate is 1,654 people… though this is generally accepted as being inflated. ”

                  Yes, might be. Reliable TwHistory at its best.

                  Click wrote: “It was bombed for strategic purposes… but under the rules of proportionality the allies bombed Dresden past its value as well…Dresden has over 100 factories which produced goods for the German war effort. employing more then 50,000 workers. This is much larger then the single factory of a town of 5000 people… These factories were producing armaments, torpedo parts, aircraft parts, field radios and telephones, steering elements for U-boats, specialized turbines for the Navy, X-ray equipment and precision optical instruments. Dresden also had rail road lines which supplied the eastern front… A similar supply line existed in Guernica but its importance was a lot smaller. ”

                  Allied mass murderers’ self-whitewashing BS.

                  Actual goal: “I do not want suggestions as to how we can disable the economy and the machinery of war, what I want are suggestions as to how we can roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau.” – Churchill

                  Click wrote: “The level of destruction for Guernica is well past its strategic value and César Vidal Manzanares points this out a well.”

                  Yes, the Reds knows their job.

                  Click wrote: “Not really… The city was bombed in waves for a period of over an hour… for such a small town this seems unnecessary… As well planes strafing the roads leading out of the town doesn’t put off your fantasy of a justified bombing. Dresden can be argued that it had strategic value… The same for Guernica… But they both can just as easily be argued as being unjustified.”

                  Laughable propaganda BS.

                  Click wrote: “We were about eighteen miles east of Guernica when Anton pulled to the side of the road jammed on the brakes and started shouting…. – Noel Monks”

                  Testimonial ‘evidence’??? Are we hunting bigfoots?

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 10:52 am

                • You replied to yourself and mixed me up with Click.

                  Who’s the idiot now?

                  Do you not know how to use a “reply” button? Does Click have your knickers in such a twist you don’t know who you are talking to anymore?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 11:40 am

                • Jeff wrote: “You replied to yourself and mixed me up with Click.”

                  I always scroll up and click (the verb, not the air-head) on the first reply button that I find. The way my replies are placed best, IMO.

                  And it’s true that I mistakenly wrote ‘Jeff’ instead of ‘Click’. Twice! Your greatest achievement ever! Together with your ‘so funny’ miscaptioned pic.

                  Jeff wrote: “Who’s the idiot now?”

                  Still Click and yourself, I’m afraid.

                  Jeff wrote: “Do you not know how to use a “reply” button? Does Click have your knickers in such a twist you don’t know who you are talking to anymore?”

                  I don’t have any account. There is no reply button below every comment on my screen. So I always click on the 1st reply button above my comment, as I previously said .

                  Once again, congrats for pointing out my huge mistake. A devastating blow for me. A very good day for you. Finally a ‘victory,’ Jeff…😉

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 3:11 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “You replied to yourself and mixed me up with Click.”

                  “I always scroll up and click (the verb, not the air-head) on the first reply button that I find. The way my replies are placed best, IMO.”

                  Apparently the “airhead” has this figured out better than you.
                  Have you not figured out that if you click the radial buttons at the bottom of the comment you get an e-mail response and an alert when FG posts something new?
                  How long have you been coming here?
                  You can then “reply” to the person who made the comment regardless of the indentation issue that comes up when there are a lot of comments.

                  “And it’s true that I mistakenly wrote ‘Jeff’ instead of ‘Click’. Twice! Your greatest achievement ever! Together with your ‘so funny’ miscaptioned pic.”

                  Really? That’s funny coming from “no proof and I don’t have to provide it” Hermie?
                  Well, that’s a little unfair. You have a definite handle on newspaper articles and random quotes from Zionists.

                  Jeff wrote: “Who’s the idiot now?”

                  “Still Click and yourself, I’m afraid.”

                  Really? If she’s an idiot, why is she irritating you so much?
                  If I’m an idiot, why do you bother to respond to me?

                  Jeff wrote: “Do you not know how to use a “reply” button? Does Click have your knickers in such a twist you don’t know who you are talking to anymore?”

                  “I don’t have any account. There is no reply button below every comment on my screen. So I always click on the 1st reply button above my comment, as I previously said .”

                  Progress Report:
                  Hermie cannot follow basic instructions.

                  “Once again, congrats for pointing out my huge mistake. A devastating blow for me. A very good day for you. Finally a ‘victory,’ Jeff… ;-)”

                  Try a little harder and provide some actual proof, Hermie.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 3:38 pm

                • “Russian, my arse. The Soviet archives, the most reliable source on this planet.”

                  They are the same things…As I have already directed you to do. READ “V nebe Ispanii”.

                  “Yes, might be. Reliable TwHistory at its best.”

                  You never know… it could include deaths from after the bombing… V nebe lspanii says that on May first 1937 800 people from Guernica were dead.

                  “Allied mass murderers’ self-whitewashing BS.”

                  I love how you just dismiss everything that goes against your ideas. As for your Churchill quote… That Quote is fake, very very very fake.
                  Its really fucking easy to tell, if one searches for the source of it they will never find it. As well Codoh even dismisses it.

                  https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=7259

                  “Yes, the Reds knows their job.”

                  One really only needs to see the photos to agree… the Germans used incendiary bombs on this town.

                  “Laughable propaganda BS.”

                  The bombing lasted between 16:30 – 19:30 It lasted well over an hour.

                  “Testimonial ‘evidence’??? Are we hunting bigfoots?”

                  Its still more reliable then your news papers.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 4:04 pm

                • “I hear babies crying,I watch them grow,they’ll learn so much more,than I’ll ever know,and think to myself,what a wonderful world”. Everything’s getting a bit hot in here. Thought we could all use something by Satchmo. I’m not siding with anyone here,but whatever the Russian records say about this event,I don’t trust it. Yes,because it’s the Reds that said it. They can’t be trusted for shit.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 6:03 pm

                • Eh, Its the archive and mind that the number of dead aka 800 is recorded around may 1st and the bombing happened on the 26th of April.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 6:06 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “Have you not figured out that if you click the radial buttons at the bottom of the comment you get an e-mail response and an alert when FG posts something new? How long have you been coming here? You can then “reply” to the person who made the comment regardless of the indentation issue that comes up when there are a lot of comments.”

                  Thanks for the lesson, Pr. Kross Section. But I couldn’t care less. I’m registered under an email address that I no longer use. I don’t use the email alert. I just visit FG’s blog, read her articles, and have a look at the comment section. I’m fine like that.

                  Jeff wrote: “Really? That’s funny coming from “no proof and I don’t have to provide it” Hermie? Well, that’s a little unfair. You have a definite handle on newspaper articles and random quotes from Zionists.”

                  And YOU, you have a definite handle on what, Mr. Prove A Negative? Beside just repeating ultra-widespread-and-well-known parts of the orthodox narrative for nothing, what’s your thing?

                  Jeff wrote: “Really? If she’s an idiot, why is she irritating you so much?”

                  She’s not irritating me at all. Don’t know how it is on your side of the Atlantic, but on mine people just call dumb bitches the girls who are actually dumb bitches. Funny you seemingly see a sign of irritation in that.

                  Jeff wrote: “If I’m an idiot, why do you bother to respond to me?”

                  Good question. Note that it happens less and less often. Stopped being fun a while ago.

                  Jeff wrote: “Progress Report: Hermie cannot follow basic instructions.”

                  I use this blog the way I want to. I don’t care about those instructions.

                  Jeff wrote: “Try a little harder and provide some actual proof, Hermie.”

                  Proof of what? Of the excitement your laughable microscopic victories bring to you??? I think that no further proof than the big deal you made of those (you posted at least 20 pathetic jubilant comments about the banal miscaptioned pic you had found) is needed. Already embarrassing enough for you as it is.

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 5:22 pm

                • Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 5:41 pm

                • Click wrote: “As well Codoh even dismisses it. https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=7259

                  This codoh thread deals with the “Hitler or a Jesuit priest” quote. The “roast the German refugees on their escape from Breslau” quote was copied-pasted in that thread but not debated. Do you actually read what you post or do you just post a link to the first hit google gives you? What’s the name of the university where you study?!?

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 5:32 pm

                • With America bombing Dresden in the day and the Brits bombing at night,I don’t even see how these two can juxtaposed. This is comparing the proverbial ,”apples and oranges “. As many lives they lost there,I don’t think anyone gave a shit if we were taking out civies or not. Bet Curtis LeMay was stroking himself when he heard of that.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 5:41 pm

    • “HOLOCAUSTOMANIA: Subscribing to the politically correct view of the holocost without question or discussion – rots the brain, corrupts the morals and creates a psychopath. The only cure is the truth provided by those who oppose and contend against the wholesale force feeding and consequent perversion of the myth of the holocost. (Diane King)”

      A younger me would propose a drinking game:

      Every time that Diane mentions “Holocaustomania”
      Jim mentions “bug spray” or either one quotes “Samuel Gringauz” you have to take a shot.

      I’m way past such things.

      Comment by Jeff K. — July 26, 2016 @ 6:30 am

    • Diane… are you retarded or something?

      “Seriously? Hitler’s ‘regime’ ended with the holocost ????”

      No… It ended with their failure at Stalingrad… after that it was a slow decline to Hitler committing suicide. Can you spot the gun that killed him?

      “WRONG, try again. Click, Hitler WAS gassed.”

      As already explained according to Iain King it was just hysteria.

      “Hitler claims to have lost his sight following a chlorine gas attack in mid-October 1918 – standing firm against the Allied assault, as Germany was ‘stabbed in the back’ by traitors back home. But the doctors who treated him in Pasewalk military hospital near Berlin diagnosed his blindness as a form of hysteria, and concluded it was caused by psychological exhaustion or ‘hysteria’ rather than gas. The medical papers were so damning – and sensational – that Hitler’s predecessor as German Chancellor, Kurt von Schleicher, who came across them in 1932, kept them personally – probably regarding them as an insurance policy, so he could blackmail Hitler later if he needed to. But Hitler struck first: Schleicher was gunned down on 30th June 1934, one of the first victims of the dictator’s ‘Night of the Long Knives’. The original papers have never surfaced. (So how do we know this account is true? It is the testimony of doctors and others interviewed in 1945 versus the word of the Fuhrer himself. I know whom I believe…).”

      (Ian Kings essay on Hitlers world war 1 life.)

      Thank you though for not providing one contrary source… You just prove the point of shermer even more that you guys at points make reckless claims without siting a source… I on the other hand do have a source.

      “Also, psychopath is a harsh word, and since we have little to no frame of reference of the German mind of the time, I suggest a HUGE leap of logic (and I use the term loosely).”

      It is a legitimate theory that the guy suffered of MENTAL ILLNESS… Is this really the first time you have heard of this? Also… you do know that he banned the German Free Thinkers Society? That was such a progressive move in the name of “logic” wasn’t it Diane? You know… like banning a major atheist group form having meetings. Totally Logical…. The guy even claimed after being “gassed” that he heard voices in his head, and even wrote about it in his own writings.

      Source for voices in his head: Hitler, Adolf. Mein Kampf, 13th edition, 1933, P. 220–225.

      Source for the German free thinkers: New York Times, May 14, 1933, page 2

      “I think THAT’s psychopathic behavior, only because it’s the result of HOLOCAUSTOMANIA: Subscribing to the politically correct view of the holocost without question or discussion – rots the brain, corrupts the morals and creates a psychopath.”

      I commonly read Mattogno’s books… So I don’t really understand your idea that I don’t look at “both sides”… I just understand like anyone who looks at the holocaust seriously that the event really happened… You obviously didn’t learn anything from Christian Lindtner:

      ” In 2006 I became a member of the Tehran Committee. Its main task was to be “fact-finding” with regard to the so-called Holocaust. A couple of years ago, I decided to look at the whole matter with fresh eyes, following a Middle Path, as it were. I decided to “revise revisionism”. I did my best to listen to both sides sine ira et studio. Eventually, I came to the conclusion, that Professor Faurisson, the most learned of them all, had simply ignored or distorted the evidence that did not support his own views about there being no evidence for a Hitler order etc. Several times, I asked Prof. Faurisson for an explanation. I did not receive any answers to my questions.”

      “I do, however, think that there are “revisionists” who are in good faith. These are, typically, people, young and old, who do not read scholarly books themselves, but rely on the authority of men like “this intellectual giant of Revisioinism” – which is how Ernst Zündel once described his friend and advisor, Professor Faurisson. We must, to be fair, distinguish between those who mislead and those who are mislead, those who deceive and those who are deceived.”

      http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2011/10/interview-with-ex-denier-christian.html

      I don’t honestly care what your opinion is ether Diane. You still continue to say the most idiotic things… Your like the James Morcan & Lance Morcan of ‘revisionism’.

      Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 1:12 am

  8. What a rosy, lovely view.

    While all this was going on the Nazi Government worked to drive patriotic, nationalist Jews out of business and out of their homeland. They encourage the divorce of Gentile spouses from their Jewish counterparts, especially if their were no children. So much for “Nazi Family Values.”

    The Gestapo created a true police state, with people spying and denouncing one another.

    The Nazis persecuted churches, banned books and life became regimented to a painful degree.

    Former Communist and Social Democrats wound up in concentration camps without formal prosecution or trial. The SA and later SS guards beat and humiliated these men, sometimes murdering them. The Nazi state also locked up the wives of these men, their only crime being married to men that the state hated.

    On the economic front, while the state put people back to work their standard of living or wages never grew due to the Nazi emphasis on rearmament. While draconian price controls prevented inflation, by 1938 the economy was starting to falter due to bottlenecks in production caused by shortages. The acquisition of Austria and the Sudetenland helped somewhat but even Hitler himself realized that this could only go on for a couple of years more.

    Yes, what a paradise on earth.

    I doubt Trump will go this far, but, hey, you never know.

    Comment by Jeff K. — July 25, 2016 @ 10:10 am

    • Edit:
      If there were no children.

      Comment by Jeff K. — July 25, 2016 @ 10:11 am

  9. The Washington Post. You’re trying to be funny right? So the Post compares him to Hitler. Bernstein used to work for the post. How much you wanna bet he had his hand in that article. Bernstein . The liberal puke from hell. G. Gordon Liddy should’ve made Bernstein “go away”,when he got outta the pen.

    Comment by Tim — July 25, 2016 @ 9:50 am

  10. He was a psychopath…

    Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 25, 2016 @ 9:23 am

    • Dear Dr Click,
      Thank you for your well-considered psychological diagnosis of a man you never met in person, and only read about in books.

      Regarding the whole ‘compare someone to Hitler’ concept, only idiots, morons and progressives do it.

      There was only one Hitler. Period.
      No one is, or was, like Hitler, except for the man himself.
      Therefore, comparisons are pointless.

      Regardless of whether you think Hitler was evil, misled by others into actions that destroyed Europe, or merely misunderstood and misrepresented, it is a foolish action (made by those I describe above) to compare others to him.

      If someone attempts to do so in my presence, I just call bullshit on them for invoking ‘Godwin’s Law’. Same as I call out the Hasbara-rats.

      Comment by John Smith — July 25, 2016 @ 9:57 am

      • “Dear Dr Click,
        Thank you for your well-considered psychological diagnosis of a man you never met in person, and only read about in books.”

        Oh, have you met him in person? Cause I have seen video of shell shock taking effect… As well his own writings are rather revealing. He did speak about gassing the Jews in Mein Kampf.

        “If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.”

        “Regarding the whole ‘compare someone to Hitler’ concept, only idiots, morons and progressives do it.”

        How does this in anyway relate to what I have said? Well? I don’t even think Trumps close to Hitler… Trump has more things in common with Mussolini then Hitler.

        “There was only one Hitler. Period.
        No one is, or was, like Hitler, except for the man himself.”

        Again Relevance? You know not many people were like Ted Bundy…. But it still has no relevance to Hitler being a psychopathy.

        “Therefore, comparisons are pointless.
        Regardless of whether you think Hitler was evil, misled by others into actions that destroyed Europe, or merely misunderstood and misrepresented, it is a foolish action (made by those I describe above) to compare others to him.”

        Again… Relevance?

        “If someone attempts to do so in my presence, I just call bullshit on them for invoking ‘Godwin’s Law’. Same as I call out the Hasbara-rats.”

        They don’t have to be paid by Israel to make those kinds of conclusions… but again… What does this have to do with him being a psychopathy?

        Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 25, 2016 @ 10:11 am

        • You wrote: “He [Hitler] did speak about gassing the Jews in Mein Kampf.

          I have the quote from Hitler on my website at
          http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/HitlerSpeeches.html

          Here is the quote: Das bolschewistische Ungeheuer, dem sie die europäischen Nationen ausliefern wollen, wird sie und ihre Völker dereinst selbst zerfetzen. Der Jude aber wird nicht die europäischen Völker ausrotten, sondern er wird das Opfer seines eigenen Anschlages sein.

          The Bolshevist monster, to which they want to deliver the European nations, will someday tear them and their people to pieces. The Jew will not however exterminate the European peoples, rather he will be the victim of his own plot.

          Der Führer über die Juden (1943)

          Comment by furtherglory — July 25, 2016 @ 10:20 am

          • Alright… He also said this…

            “Nature is cruel; therefore we are also entitled to be cruel. When I send the flower of German youth into the steel hail of the next war without feeling the slightest regret over the precious German blood that is being spilled, should I not also have the right to eliminate millions of an inferior race that multiplies like vermin?”

            Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 25, 2016 @ 10:36 am

            • You probably got that one in Joachim Fest, a very credulous biographer of Hitler. His source for the quote is Hermann Rauschning, “Gespräche mit Hitler,” Zurich, New York 1940. So the first thing you should do is to investigate who this Rauschning character might be.

              Hitler is the most misquoted character in history and Rauschning’s book “Conversations with Hitler” is one of the most quoted sources for “mad statements” by him, all of them supposedly previous to his actual rising to power as Fuehrer. The book was first published in the U.S. in 1940 as “The Voice of Destruction.” It is allegedly based on dozens of private conversations with Hitler between 1932 and 1934 by Rauschning, a Nazi ex-member of the Danzig senate, who was ousted from the Nazi movement and became a professional anti-Nazi.

              The memoir was introduced as Allied prosecution exhibit USSR-378 at the Nuremberg war crimes trial, and is a real pot-pourri of semi-imbecile statements including a Hitler supposed confidence to this minor provincial official, of all people, letting him know of a plan to conquer Africa, South America, Mexico and the United States, no less. Rauschning claimed to having met Hitler “more than a hundred times,” but the two actually met only four times and never alone. Rauschning also attributes to Hitler words lifted from Ernst Junger, Nietzsche, etc.. He says Hitler waked at night shrieking and shouting “there, there in the corner” (this is taken from a story from Maupassant).

              The historical value of the quotes is nil. The phony memoir was a propaganda brainchild of Emery Reves who ran an anti-German press in Paris during the 1930s.

              Comment by peter — July 26, 2016 @ 6:10 am

              • I am well aware who Hermann Rauschning is… He joined the nazi party and just as quickly broke away from it.

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 9:27 am

                • You wrote: “I am well aware who Hermann Rauschning is…”

                  I have studied German history and the Holocaust for years, but this is the first time that I have ever seen the name Hermann Rauschning in print, until now. What did he do that was important?

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 26, 2016 @ 9:42 am

                • He joined the nazi party in 1936 and is known as a source for some damning quotes of the nazis. He joined and left the party in a rather short period of time and after leaving he became a voice which spoke against the Nazi party.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:08 am

                • I did a search for Hermann Rauschning and found this on Wikipedia:

                  Begin quote from Wikipedia

                  Between 1938 and 1942, he [Rauschning] wrote a number of works in German addressing the problem of the Nazis which were also published in a number of languages including English. His Gespräche mit Hitler (Conversations with Hitler) was a huge bestseller but its credibility would later be severely criticised, and it now has no standing as an accurate document on Hitler for historians. However, as anti-Nazi propaganda it was taken seriously by the Nazi regime. At the beginning of the war the French dropped leaflets on the Western Front containing excerpts from Rauschnings writings, but with little response.[4]

                  In 1941 Rauschning moved to the United States, becoming a US citizen in 1942 and purchasing a farm near Portland, Oregon where he died in 1982. He remained politically active after the war and was opposed to the policies of Konrad Adenauer.[4]

                  End quote

                  Note that Wiki says that Rauschnning’s writing “has no standing as an accurate document on Hitler for historians.” Wiki is kosher and always takes the side of the Jews, so it seems that Rauschning has no standing as a historian.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 26, 2016 @ 10:28 am

                • Joachim Fest did present one of Rauschnings quotes. His book though is from 1975 so it is outdated in a sense. Most of his writings are not used by most historians. Though his quote from Joachim Fest’s can be found on a few major resources.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:34 am

                • Herman Rauschning was a liar who hated the Nazis because the NSDAP had outmatched his dear rightist party and who wrote a book Holohoaxsters and other history falsifiers love. The book was entitled ‘Hitler speaks’ or ‘ The voice of destruction.’ It was based on the claim that Rauschning had supposedly been Hitler’s confidant. But his forged quotes were so good that falsifiers kept using them even after it was demonstrated that Rauschning had never been Hitler’s confidant and had not even met Hitler once alone together. Never let the truth ruin a good story…

                  Comment by hermie — July 26, 2016 @ 1:27 pm

                • What ever you say Hermie… I don’t really see any reason to argue with you here. Herman Rauschning is somone who openly spoke against Nazism… weather he was a liar though is up for debate.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 5:48 pm

                • *whether

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 5:49 pm

                • Click wrote: “What ever you say Hermie… I don’t really see any reason to argue with you here. Herman Rauschning is somone who openly spoke against Nazism”

                  You say ‘who openly spoke against Nazism’ only because he told the story you want to hear. And the debunking of his claims and background clearly has no impact on your intent to keep using his assertions for history distortion. Very telling about your evidential standards and biases. Hard to look like a person driven by a quest for truth after that…

                  Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 7:12 am

                • Well the question here still stands if that even was Joachim Fest’s source… That’s why I am not taking it very seriously.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 11:58 am

                • Irrelevant. The debunking of Rauschning’s claims came after Fest’s biography on Hitler had been written.

                  Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 1:00 pm

                • Again Hermie, as explained whether Rauschning is Fest’s source for the quote hasn’t still been provided.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 1:55 pm

                • Click wrote: “Again Hermie, as explained whether Rauschning is Fest’s source for the quote hasn’t still been provided.”

                  Where do you think he picked up that one???

                  Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 2:07 pm

                • Not sure, I don’t own his book.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 3:51 pm

                • You can find this manufactured ‘quote’ on page 137 in Rauschning’s book (http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Voice%20of%20Destruction%20JR.pdf – p. 86).

                  Amusingly, even with manufactured bogus ‘quotes,’ Holohoaxsters need to cheat in order to be able to ‘prove’ their case. The next sentences in Rauschning’s fictional novel were: “And by ‘remove’ I don’t necessarily mean destroy; I shall simply take systematic measures to dam their great natural fertility. For example, I shall keep their men and women separated for years.” See the boundless dishonesty of the Holohoaxsters using this specific ‘quote’ to prove an extermination policy through mass murders on Hitler’s part?

                  http://www.jrbooksonline.com/voice%20of%20destruction.htm

                  Comment by hermie — July 28, 2016 @ 4:49 am

                • Thanks for the book, though again I would prefer the index of Fests book.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 6:23 pm

                • Click wrote: “Thanks for the book, though again I would prefer the index of Fests book.”

                  You prefer secondary sources to primary sources?! So Holocaustian…

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 6:57 am

                • No I prefer to see what he sites as his source.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 8:11 am

                • Click wrote: “No I prefer to see what he sites as his source.”

                  So perhaps you’d better not quote books you haven’t read.

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 8:42 am

                • Alright

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 9:49 am

                • Click wrote: “The ground was leveled a long time before the trees. I believe you missed the point.”

                  Yeah, I missed it so much that you had to ignore almost all of my comment. Telling. Very telling…

                  Comment by hermie — August 1, 2016 @ 7:40 pm

                • “Yeah, I missed it so much that you had to ignore almost all of my comment. Telling. Very telling…”

                  Not really… I just didn’t bother responding to everything. Also mind that black rabbit claims the trees wee planted. I think you missed the idea of flattened ground and the ground later being just stirred around at bit later just removes your idea of depressions.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 2, 2016 @ 10:25 pm

                • Click wrote: “I think you missed the idea of flattened ground and the ground later being just stirred around at bit later just removes your idea of depressions. ”

                  You missed the way such depressions appear. Such depressions appear gradually as a ground restructures. So one can flatten or disturb the surroundings of such areas, depressions will inevitably arise gradually as time passes.

                  Comment by hermie — August 3, 2016 @ 7:07 pm

                • Except the ground was moved around by both the Russians and post war grave robbers up until the 1960’s.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 3, 2016 @ 9:17 pm

                • Who’s graves have the grave robbers been boosting?

                  Comment by Tim — August 4, 2016 @ 6:04 am

                • They dig up in the extermination sections of Treblinka. They are not just digging up random graves they are digging up bone fragments, and such. They are looking for pieces left behind by the Nazi’s.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 5, 2016 @ 2:04 am

                • Click wrote: “Except the ground was moved around by both the Russians and post war grave robbers up until the 1960’s.”

                  So creating additional and/or larger depressions. More disturbed/excavated ground, more depressions. NOT more disturbed/excavated ground, no depressions at all.

                  Tim wrote: “Who’s graves have the grave robbers been boosting?”

                  Nobody’s. Assuming such grave robbers actually existed (what I don’t believe), they would have been some kind of El Dorado seekers. El Dorado never needed to be real to attract herds of greedy adventurers wishing to become immensely rich very fast.

                  Comment by hermie — August 4, 2016 @ 7:51 am

                • “So creating additional and/or larger depressions. More disturbed/excavated ground, more depressions. NOT more disturbed/excavated ground, no depressions at all.”

                  Actually it would just cause the ground to be shuffled all over the place.

                  “Nobody’s. Assuming such grave robbers actually existed (what I don’t believe), they would have been some kind of El Dorado seekers. El Dorado never needed to be real to attract herds of greedy adventurers wishing to become immensely rich very fast.”

                  Except Treblinka is real… Its not some fantasy land of gold like El Dorado.

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2008/03/gold-rush-in-treblinka.html

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 5, 2016 @ 2:20 am

                • Click wrote: “Actually it would just cause the ground to be shuffled all over the place.”

                  The only thing all over the place here is yourself, I’m afraid.

                  Click wrote: “Except Treblinka is real… Its not some fantasy land of gold like El Dorado.”

                  True. It is. But Treblinka’s mass gassings are as legendary as El Dorado’s mountains of gold, both stuff being ‘proved’ by the very same kind of ‘evidence,’ i.e. by testimonial BS…

                  Comment by hermie — August 11, 2016 @ 8:02 am

                • Click wrote: “Except Treblinka is real… Its not some fantasy land of gold like El Dorado.”

                  I have visited Treblinka, after which I wrote these two blog posts:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/the-story-of-treblinka-transit-camp-or-extermination-center/
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/was-treblinka-really-a-transit-camp/

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 11, 2016 @ 9:27 am

                • That’s what I like about you FG. You don’t get all your information from the history books. You’ve seen the physical location in person. After that,you come to your own conclusions. You’re probably pissing off the tour guides at these places,cause you don’t always buy what they sell. We got so many mindless sheep out there,that they accept the first answers or accounting that they’re given. The people you’ve got here,from both sides,don’t always accept the answers their given. Even if one side is proven wrong,I’ve seen sometimes they’ll admit it. Sorry. I can’t include Jimbo in those groups. If people don’t agree with him,his answer is,”f–k em if they can’t take a joke”. Jimbo is like like Stone Mountain in Georgia. He ain’t gonna budge for shit.

                  Comment by Tim — August 11, 2016 @ 11:37 am

                • You wrote: “You’re probably pissing off the tour guides at these places,cause you don’t always buy what they sell.”

                  When I visited the camps, I was very careful not to indicate to the tour guides that I might be a denier. I seriously think that my tour guides were suspicious because I was not acting like a True Believer. I think that they expected me to cry, or faint, or react in some way, but I couldn’t. I base a lot of my opinion about the Holocaust on the fact that the camps didn’t look right to me. For example, the two largest gas chambers at Birkenau are on the two sides of a road that ran through the camp. Local farmers were cutting through the camp on their way to the other side. Allegedly, they were able to see the Jews marching into the gas chambers on both sides of the road.

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 11, 2016 @ 12:55 pm

                • Thats what I was talking about. No matter how many pictures are taken and displayed about the gas house,a person still can’t get the whole picture of a gas house. If a person visits the prison,they can be more critical of the the buildings they said were gas houses. They can go inside the gas house,and go over it with a fine tooth comb. They could see shit the camera don’t pick up

                  Comment by Tim — August 11, 2016 @ 4:44 pm

                • Hey. El Dorado is real. They mention it in my “Drakes Fortune” game I got for my play station.

                  Comment by Tim — August 11, 2016 @ 11:22 am

                • 1) not really, it’s really simple Hermie. Get some dirt place it unleveled in a box or something the shuffle it around. There you go! Flat!

                  All jokes aside its what one should expect with ground that has been dug at from all corners since 1945.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 11, 2016 @ 4:17 pm

                • Click wrote: “1) not really, it’s really simple Hermie. Get some dirt, place it unleveled in a box or something, then shuffle it around. There you go! Flat!”

                  Easier method: Get some dirt, place it unleveled in a box, then level it. There you go! Flat!

                  If Holohoaxsters had spent as much time gathering physical evidence for their claims as the time they spent trying to explain why there are no physical evidence for their claims, you wouldn’t be in such a shit today.😉

                  Click wrote: “All jokes aside its what one should expect with ground that has been dug at from all corners since 1945.”

                  All non-science aside, it’s what one should expect with ground dug at from all corners since 1945.

                  http://www.provencia.fr/image/crop/377-377/jpg/produits/associes/sous-gammes/gruyere

                  Comment by hermie — August 11, 2016 @ 5:43 pm

        • “If someone attempts to do so in my presence, I just call bullshit on them for invoking ‘Godwin’s Law’. Same as I call out the Hasbara-rats.””

          Have you noticed, Click, that any dissenting voice on this blog is automatically called out as a Hasbara?

          I think it’s juvenile paranoia, common among conspiraloons.

          Comment by Jeff K. — July 25, 2016 @ 10:22 am

          • Eh, to be honest I have been called a Hasbara more by the ‘revisionist’ community on Youtube and google plus. They apparently don’t like it when your criticize Dennis Wise…

            Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 25, 2016 @ 10:37 am

            • Ah, yes, “The Greatest Story Never Told.”

              I think Wise ripped off some of those clips from stuff on The History Channel or The Military Channel.

              Comment by Jeff K. — July 25, 2016 @ 10:50 am

              • He stole most clips from Movies…. The two major movies he took from is Downfall and Hitler rise of evil.

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 25, 2016 @ 10:57 am

        • Leave El Duce out of it, them dar are fighting words

          Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 6:14 am

          • Eh… His death was rather pleasing to watch.

            Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 9:31 am

            • Me and him have a thing in common, we’re both hung

              Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 10:39 am

              • Last time I checked he was shot….

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:40 am

                • Then hung for 3 days

                  Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 10:41 am

                • Yep, but he was hung by his feet

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 10:48 am

                • For 3 days though. I’m having a hard time buying that. He’d get to smelling like the inside of a dead water buffaloes ass. We ran across a few dead water buffalo. They got caught in the cross fire. While I did not actually smell their ass,the rest of their rotting corpse smelled bad enough. So you can figure their ass is gonna be twice as lethal

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 10:55 am

                • lol, that was great the way you strung that sentence together. Thanks for the laugh.

                  There is quite a lot of articles on Hitler and the holocaust/holohoax on the Shock site Best Gore. Yes some of the things the have are very sad, but there are also some very interesting subject matter on it too. Be brave if you haven’t and take a gander

                  Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 10:59 am

                • Seeing how this cats still alive,I don’t think he was referring to “hung”,as being hung by a rope. Think about it. Why would you hang a stiff on a rope. We ran back into an area one time where we had an engagement the previous day. The corpses of the dead NVA had only been dead one day. They stunk to beat the band. Hang up a stiff for 3 days? Who the hells gonna be brave enough to pull that maggot infested corpse down?

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 10:47 am

                • Mussolini was shot, and later hung in the middle of a town for 3 days. I am not so sure about maggots infesting him. They did take his body down though and he was berried, but it still does stand that in a form of way the Italian people were justified.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 11:01 am

                • You wrote, regarding Mussolini: “he was berried”.

                  What kind of berries were used? I think that you mean he was “buried.”

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 26, 2016 @ 11:08 am

                • That’s what I told Miss Click before. You’re a journalist. Couple weeks back I find out you proofed the paper before it went to print. I told her,don’t feel like the Lone Ranger . I told her you’ve called me down on spelling and sentence structuring before

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 11:30 am

                • You wrote: “Couple weeks back I find out you proofed the paper before it went to print.”
                  I wrote about fact-checking on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/01/15/the-lost-art-of-newspaper-fact-checking/

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 26, 2016 @ 12:18 pm

                • FG. You think journalism has gotten to the point where they lack policing their own work? This is a good example here. They use the wrong pictures,but nobody wants to call anyone down on it. It’s just like the time magazine cover. We were just barely in Nam and Time has a picture of dink VC POW on the cover. They said it was controversial. The cover surfaced 65 or 66. I was still a kid. I didn’t pay much attention to Nam,until my senior year. I went after I graduated . People got pissed cause they saw the cover. They think this poor VC,was being abused. I don’t know what was written in that issue,but they said the cover was controversial. Clearly they wrote what they wanted to write and no one questioned it. Then there was the fighter jock . He was on the cover of Time or Life. It was the picture where he was sitting in a chair and had his hands between his legs. He was flipping the bird with each hand. Before the picture made it to the cover and on the news stand,they airbrushed out the POWs hands. Why didn’t that magazine question why that POW was giving the one finger salute? What about when the Hanoi Whore came back from north Vietnam. Any journalist bother to proof her story on how the POWs were being treated? I heard one of the POWs tried to tell Jane their treatment was terrible. She went and snitched out that POW to one of the dinks that ran the prison. I don’t know if any magazines ran that story. Since it was Jane Fonda,I’m guessing some magazine did. I’m guessing no one checked her story. I’ve noticed in the past 8 years,journalism has really gone to shit. It seems to me like they write what the people want to hear and not what they should. The press seems to have to have the public brainwashed. I’m not saying the press hasn’t ever had a time when they didn’t try to give the public,”their opinion”,it just seems to be way past anything acceptable. They use the wrong pictures. They won’t admit to it. They might lose readers. Someone else could come along with solid proof that the wrong photos were used,but the paper will say it was the right photo and no one will question it. So how wreckless have journalist gotten since your day? Do you even think they understand what accountability means?

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 3:54 pm

                • Eh, I was on my phone during a free period. Thanks for the correction I guess.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 5:45 pm

                • Yeah I remembered they had to tie his girlfriends dress up,so it wouldn’t fall about her neck. That probably pissed off a lot of pervs. They were wanting to get a quick look at her,”goods”,only to have their hopes dashed,because they fixed her dress where she would be exposed hanging upside down. Okay course I can’t stand muscle weenie. I saw something one time where he’s on a balcony giving a speech. He finished the speech and the crowd goes ape shit. He steps back crossed his arms and starts shaking his head up and down . He had a look on his face where it looked like he saying,”that’s tight bitch. I’m mutha f–kin King Kong around here”. I always would’ve loved to have slapped the dog piss out of him right there. The other good laugh he gave me. He’s in the field helping the farmers. He’s got a “doo rag” on his head. I would’ve loved to have said to him,”hey dumb shit. Why you wearing a doo rag? You ain’t got no hair”.. I say they should’ve put him in lock down. Rahway Prison New Jersey. Drop him in the middle of population. He’d become someone’s punk real quick. They’d pass him around for cigarettes.

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 11:23 am

                • Eh, When ever I watch his speeches I cannot really help but laugh… I think it was rather surprising that people look up at him as if he were some type of public speaker like Adolf.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 26, 2016 @ 5:47 pm

                • Hitler always had a look to me like,confidence. Bennie reminds me of a used car salesman. His attitude also had the look of,”of course it’s the truth. I said it”. He definitely looked like he was in love with himself.

                  Comment by Tim — July 27, 2016 @ 10:32 am

              • C’mon buddy. Miss Click is a lady. No need to carry on talk like that.

                Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 10:41 am

                • Forgive my tounge, it was inappropriate. But Benitodid slot for his country during ww2, if you don’t believe it, where are all the ancient ruins in Britain and Germany. Before 1937, many important people all over the world (including USA) loved and admired that weird mustached individual. This is why Benito, Stalin and even the king of Denmark took his side. They didn’t expect war, but once it happened, they were stuck. Do you really think Adolf liked Mussolinis Fascist beliefs? Nope, once he was comfortably winning the war, he would’ve done the same to him as he did to Russia. He wanted it all to himself.

                  Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 10:49 am

                • I gotta admit,his cookie duster was blazing trails. I’ve always liked it. I think a mustache like that,would be more sanitary when it comes to eating. I’ve been at pig roasts before. The person roasting the hog would drown the pig in BBQ sauce. I get to eating it and the sauce just gets all in my mustache . Thats nasty

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 11:02 am

                • OMG LOL, this really turned into a comedy site today. I’ve read he keeps it small like it was to make his nose look smaller. I don’t know how friends that was but it fits in with these last few posts.

                  Comment by sanbeagle — July 26, 2016 @ 11:04 am

                • Sometimes things get to a boiling point here. Need to have a few laughs to relieve the pressure. Speaking for myself,I’m just wanting to know what happened with this whole subject. Shit gets real confusing

                  Comment by Tim — July 26, 2016 @ 11:26 am

        • Click wrote: “He did speak about gassing the Jews in Mein Kampf.”

          Hitler didn’t speak about gassing the Jews in Mein Kampf. He spoke about sending the Marxist leaders and other war profiteers of Germany to the front-line, where poison gas had been used as a weapon, so that they could suffer from the war instead of benefiting from it as they had done. Not Hitler’s fault that so many Marxist leaders were Jews and that you’re too dumb to understand a statement in its proper context.

          Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 7:04 am

          • No…. He really did speak of using poison gas on the Jews…

            “If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.”

            -Volume Two – A Reckoning
            Chapter XV: The Right of Emergency Defense

            Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 11:57 am

            • Click wrote: “No…. He really did speak of using poison gas on the Jews…”

              “Not Hitler’s fault that so many Marxist leaders were Jews and that you’re too dumb to understand a statement in its proper context.”…Confirmed. Definitely.

              Call your boyfriend. Perhaps he’ll be able to explain it to you…

              “Just as in 1918 we paid with our blood for the fact that in 1914 and 1915 we did not proceed to trample the head of the Marxist serpent once and for all, we would have to pay most catastrophically if in the spring of 1923 we did not avail ourselves of the opportunity to halt the activity of the Marxist traitors and murderers of the nation for good.

              Any idea of real resistance to France was utter nonsense if we did not declare war against those forces which five years before had broken German resistance on the battlefields from within. Only bourgeois minds can arrive at the incredible opinion that Marxism might now have changed, and that the scoundrelly leaders of 1918, who then coldly trampled two million dead underfoot, the better to climb into the various seats of government, now in 1923 were suddenly ready to render their tribute to the national conscience. An incredible and really insane idea, the hope that the traitors of former days would suddenly turn into fighters for a German freedom. It never entered their heads. No more than a hyena abandons carrion does a Marxist abandon treason. And don’t annoy me, if you please, with the stupidest of all arguments, that, after all, so many workers bled for Germany. German workers, yes, but then they were no longer international Marxists. If in 1914 the German working class in their innermost convictions had still consisted of Marxists, the War would have been over in three weeks. Germany would have collapsed even before the first soldier set foot across the border. No, the fact that the German people was then still fighting proved that the Marxist delusion had not yet been able to gnaw its way into the bottommost depths. But in exact proportion as, in the course of the War, the German worker and the German soldier fell back into the hands of the Marxist leaders, in exactly that proportion he was lost to the fatherland. If at the beginning of the War and during the War twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, th sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: twelve thousand scoundrels eliminated in time might have saved the lives of a million real Germans, valuable for the future. But it just happened to be in the line of bourgeois ‘statesmanship’ to subject millions to a bloody end on the battlefield without batting an eyelash, but to regard ten or twelve thousand traitors, profiteers, usurers, and swindlers as a sacred national treasure and openly proclaim their inviolability. We never know which is greater in this bourgeois world, the imbecility, weakness, and cowardice, or their deep-dyed corruption. It is truly a class doomed by Fate, but unfortunately, however, it is dragging a whole nation with it into the abyss.

              And in 1923 we faced exactly the same situation as in 1918. Regardless what type of resistance was decided on, the first requirement was always the elimination of the Marxist poison from our national body. And in my opinion, it was then the very first task of a truly national government to seek and find the forces which were resolved to declare a war of annihilation on Marxism, and then to give these forces a free road; it was their duty not to worship the idiocy of ‘law and order’ at a moment when the enemy without was administering the most annihilating blow to the fatherland and at home treason lurked on every street corner. “

              Comment by hermie — July 27, 2016 @ 2:05 pm

              • Hermie, again I never said he planned out the holocaust in mein kampf. What I said is accurate to what he provided. He did call for the gassing of Jews.

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 3:51 pm

                • You wrote: “He [Hitler] did call for the gassing of Jews.”

                  Can you give us a reference to the speech in which he called for the gassing of Jews?
                  Or did he put this in a written order? If so, can you quote the order? Did Hitler use the word “ausrotten” in this order? Where did Hitler make the speech, in which he called for the gassing of the Jews?

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 27, 2016 @ 4:04 pm

                • I provided the quote already. He says it in volume 2 of Mein Kampf. One can argue to its meaning, and it being literal. But it does say the following.

                  “If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.”

                  Its Volume 2 Chapter 15 of Mein Kampf… You have read it before? Right?

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 6:20 pm

                • Okay. Once again so much is flying back and forth,I’m lost. Let me ask this. Hitler said,”had been held under poison gas,as were our workers in the fields”. What is he referring to there? When he says,”been held under”,is that another way of saying “exposed” to the gas? He does seem to advocate,”eye for an eye” here ( if I understand him correctly). Saying if x number of Jews died,then our boys that fell on the field of battle,would not have been for nothing. I gotta go against him saying them men fell for nothing. When I left Nam,we were fighting just to keep each other alive. We figured out our cause there was worthless. Even if the soldier has lost faith in what he’s fighting for,they’re still fighting for each other. If one of your brothers falls,he did it trying to protect the rest. So for Hitler to say those men fell for nothing,is just wrong. Mom,apple pie and all that other shit goes out the window,when someone’s trying to kill you. Hitler did his time on the front, so I have to allow him his opinion on this,wether I agree or not.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 6:57 pm

                • It was completely just a reference to send Jews out to die on the fields of world war 1. That’s about it.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 7:00 pm

                • I figured that’s what it was. It’s just sometimes things are not as they appear to be,when it comes to this subject

                  Comment by Tim — August 2, 2016 @ 6:18 am

                • Sort of, the quote is still Hitler calling for Jews to run into areas of gas. The Context is different, but in all out its practically just him saying the Jews didn’t do their part… even though the numbers he mentioned were wrong. 100,000 Jews is more then his tens of thousands that he demanded. As well to be held under gas really only implies one thing.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 2, 2016 @ 10:59 pm

                • You wrote: “He [Hitler] did call for the gassing of Jews.”

                  Can you give a link to the place where you got the information that Hitler “did call for the gassing of the Jews”?

                  I have a section on my website where I have quoted Hitler’s speeches. I would like to add the gassing quote to my web page.

                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/HitlerSpeeches.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 27, 2016 @ 4:19 pm

                • Have you ignored my post? I said this to Hermie

                  “No…. He really did speak of using poison gas on the Jews…

                  “If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.”

                  -Volume Two – A Reckoning
                  Chapter XV: The Right of Emergency Defense”

                  Mein Kampf Volume 2 Chapter 15…

                  http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch15.html

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 27, 2016 @ 6:22 pm

                • Furtherglory wrote: “Can you give a link to the place where you got the information that Hitler “did call for the gassing of the Jews”?”

                  I think you/we are wasting your/our time, FG. She seems to sincerely believe that she actually provided that. Visibly an airheaded girl who is unable to understand nuances and subtleties, contexts and meanings. I doubt we could go any deeper with her…

                  Comment by hermie — July 28, 2016 @ 5:03 am

                • Hermie… It was provided already… I gave the volume and chapter to you long before FG requested it.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 6:25 pm

                • Click wrote: “Hermie… It was provided already… I gave the volume and chapter to you long before FG requested it.”

                  No, you didn’t understand (once again). FG and I were saying that you didn’t provide any quote from Mein Kampf about the gassing of Jews. You’ve only provided a quote about sending some war profiteers, a number of them Jewish, to the front-line during a war. But you’re even too stupid to understand that, dumb bitch.

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 7:05 am

                • “No, you didn’t understand (once again). FG and I were saying that you didn’t provide any quote from Mein Kampf about the gassing of Jews.”

                  We both gave you that quote.

                  Would you like me to do it again?

                  “You’ve only provided a quote about sending some war profiteers, a number of them Jewish, to the front-line during a war.”

                  The quote specifically says “Hebrew” and “held under the gas.”

                  “But you’re even too stupid to understand that, dumb bitch.”

                  Is Click frustrating you, Hermie? I understand why. After all, she’s refusing to back down. I realize that really rankles you. Just think, Hermie, a woman who knows history and is showing you up.

                  That’s funny as hell to me.
                  Very telling, your attitude.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 29, 2016 @ 8:10 am

                • 😄 but I did. Do I need to quote the post and the time It was posted?

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 8:12 am

                • ““If at the outbreak and during the war, twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew nation-corruptors had been held under poison gas once, as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from all classes and callings had to endure on the battlefield, then the sacrifice of millions on the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: twelve thousand scoundrels eliminated at the right time would perhaps have saved the lives of a million Germans who are more orderly and more valuable for the future.”

                  What other meaning do you glean from “Hebrew Nation Corruptors had been held under the poison gas once?”

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 29, 2016 @ 8:25 am

                • Jeff wrote: “The quote specifically says “Hebrew” and “held under the gas.””

                  You’re free to join Click in her self-ridiculing enterprise if you want to. But you know as well as I do that most Holohoaxsters admit this specific quote didn’t foreshadow the use of homicidal gas chambers during WW2.

                  Jeff wrote: “Is Click frustrating you, Hermie?”

                  Not at all. I think she’s as dumb as a bag of hammers. So I call her a ‘dumb bitch.’ No 2-cent psychology involved, nor even needed.

                  Jeff wrote: “I understand why. After all, she’s refusing to back down. I realize that really rankles you. Just think, Hermie, a woman who knows history and is showing you up.”

                  Thank you for the funny psychoanalysis, Doctor Kross Section. A good laugh. See you can sometimes be funny?

                  “A woman who knows history”…a comedy gem. You’re really good today.

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 9:00 am

                • Jeff wrote: “The quote specifically says “Hebrew” and “held under the gas.””

                  “You’re free to join Click in her self-ridiculing enterprise if you want to. But you know as well as I do that most Holohoaxsters admit this specific quote didn’t foreshadow the use of homicidal gas chambers during WW2.”

                  I already said that I consider this passage Hitler rhetoric, nothing more. But, do you misunderstand “Hebrew?” Do you have a definition of “Hebrew” that I don’t know about?

                  Jeff wrote: “Is Click frustrating you, Hermie?”

                  “Not at all. I think she’s as dumb as a bag of hammers.”

                  Really? She’s going toe to toe with you. You still feel the need to debate her. What does that say about you?

                  “So I call her a ‘dumb bitch.’ No 2-cent psychology involved, nor even needed.”

                  Resorting to name calling or cursing is a sign of anger or frustration. She hasn’t done the same to you, even though you’re behaving like a mysogynistic cranky baby. Says a lot, don’t you agree?

                  Jeff wrote: “I understand why. After all, she’s refusing to back down. I realize that really rankles you. Just think, Hermie, a woman who knows history and is showing you up.”

                  “Thank you for the funny psychoanalysis, Doctor Kross Section. A good laugh. See you can sometimes be funny?”

                  I’m glad I brought a smile to your face. You needed it, you know, because a woman is showing you up.

                  “A woman who knows history”…a comedy gem. You’re really good today.”

                  The answer to the question, why is Hermie single?

                  Have you never been around a woman, besides your mother and sister, in your entire life?

                  The author of this blog is a woman, Hermie. Are you saying FG had no knowledge of history?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 29, 2016 @ 9:17 am

                • Hermie, I am not advocating that it really means anything. xD

                  Its just a quote from the 2nd volume of Mein Kampf. You have read the quote and have been given its source well before FG even requested it. The quote clearly is referencing the gas of world war 1 and says that the “Hebrew corrupters of the people” should have been “been held under poison gas”…

                  So I guess you are making this out as giving the Jews a sucker for good behavior!* Then there is no reason to continue the argument… You have obviously ignored the following.

                  http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch15.html

                  *If you didn’t pick this up the line before this star is “SARCASM”.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 9:57 am

                • Oh come on . You don’t need to call her that.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 8:24 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “What other meaning do you glean from “Hebrew Nation Corruptors had been held under the poison gas once?””

                  The meaning that I’ve already expressed several times on here. Again, stop wasting my time.

                  Funny to see how shorter and shorter this quote is getting for distortion purposes. Hasbara College is so full of geniuses.😉

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 9:06 am

                • Jeff wrote: “What other meaning do you glean from “Hebrew Nation Corruptors had been held under the poison gas once?””

                  “The meaning that I’ve already expressed several times on here. Again, stop wasting my time.”

                  Indulge me. Denier logic is difficult to follow.

                  “Funny to see how shorter and shorter this quote is getting for distortion purposes. Hasbara College is so full of geniuses. ;-)”

                  I quoted the relevant part, Hermie, not the whole paragraph. THAT is a waste of time.

                  Am I back to being a Hasbara? You know, it really is too bad that the Hasbara aren’t real, I’d happily take a job with them. I’m sure that if it existed it would pay well and it would leave me time for what I love, history.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 29, 2016 @ 9:25 am

                • “Hasbara College is so full of geniuses.”

                  Were hearing this from a guy who treats a news paper as a primary source. You have ignored what is put in clear wording in Hitlers own writings.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 9:59 am

                • You wrote: “You have ignored what is put in clear wording in Hitlers own writings.”

                  I have a page on my website with quotes from Hitler:
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/HitlerSpeeches.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 29, 2016 @ 10:53 am

                • You wrote: “I have a page on my website with quotes from Hitler:”

                  So does brainyquote:

                  http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/adolf_hitler.html

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 29, 2016 @ 10:55 am

                • Papa Joe ( Stalin)has quotes on there too. He just flat out tells you what he thinks about people. He don’t beat around the bush.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 8:34 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “I already said that I consider this passage Hitler rhetoric, nothing more. But, do you misunderstand “Hebrew?” Do you have a definition of “Hebrew” that I don’t know about?”

                  No, I don’t.

                  Jewish agitators and war profiteers at the front-line. Nothing else in this quote.

                  Jeff wrote: “Resorting to name calling or cursing is a sign of anger or frustration. She hasn’t done the same to you, even though you’re behaving like a mysogynistic cranky baby. Says a lot, don’t you agree?”

                  An agent provocateur like yourself knows a lot about such things, don’t you?

                  She’s dumb, so I’ll keep calling her a dumb bitch whether you like it or not.

                  Jeff wrote: “I’m glad I brought a smile to your face. You needed it, you know, because a woman is showing you up.”

                  I’m afraid she’s just showing that US universities let any idiot in.

                  Jeff wrote: “The answer to the question, why is Hermie single? Have you never been around a woman, besides your mother and sister, in your entire life? The author of this blog is a woman, Hermie. Are you saying FG had no knowledge of history?”

                  Jeff demonstrating his stupidity once again. I didn’t say that a woman who knows history is something funny. I said that depicting Click as ‘a woman who knows history’ is hilarious. So patently untrue. BTW, thanks for the funny psychoanalysis. Another good laughter…

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 10:27 am

                • You replied to Click but this seems directed at me so I’ll answer.

                  Jeff wrote: “I already said that I consider this passage Hitler rhetoric, nothing more. But, do you misunderstand “Hebrew?” Do you have a definition of “Hebrew” that I don’t know about?”

                  “No, I don’t.”

                  Good, we agree then.

                  “Jewish agitators and war profiteers at the front-line. Nothing else in this quote.”

                  That Hitler thinks would be a good idea to gas.

                  Jeff wrote: “Resorting to name calling or cursing is a sign of anger or frustration. She hasn’t done the same to you, even though you’re behaving like a mysogynistic cranky baby. Says a lot, don’t you agree?”

                  “An agent provocateur like yourself knows a lot about such things, don’t you?”

                  Hey, Click’s the one who’s avoiding the name calling.

                  “She’s dumb, so I’ll keep calling her a dumb bitch whether you like it or not.”

                  I don’t think it matters what I think, Hermie. She is displaying a great of knowledge about the subject matter. It’s obviously turning you into a big cranky baby in need of a diaper change.

                  Jeff wrote: “I’m glad I brought a smile to your face. You needed it, you know, because a woman is showing you up.”

                  “I’m afraid she’s just showing that US universities let any idiot in.”

                  This “idiot” has an answer to all of your BS, Hermie. What does that say about you?

                  Jeff wrote: “The answer to the question, why is Hermie single? Have you never been around a woman, besides your mother and sister, in your entire life? The author of this blog is a woman, Hermie. Are you saying FG had no knowledge of history?”

                  “Jeff demonstrating his stupidity once again. I didn’t say that a woman who knows history is something funny. I said that depicting Click as ‘a woman who knows history’ is hilarious. So patently untrue. BTW, thanks for the funny psychoanalysis. Another good laughter…”

                  I’ll tell you what’s making me laugh, Hermie. You getting whacked around by a woman you consider an idiot.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 11:33 am

                • You wrote:

                  I don’t think it matters what I think, Hermie. She [Click] is displaying a great [deal] of knowledge about the subject matter. It’s obviously turning you into a big cranky baby in need of a diaper change.”

                  This is why I did not reveal my gender when I started my blog. Everyone just asumed that I was a man because, as everyone knows, women are stupid.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 11:42 am

                • You wrote:

                  “I don’t think it matters what I think, Hermie. She [Click] is displaying a great [deal] of knowledge about the subject matter. It’s obviously turning you into a big cranky baby in need of a diaper change.”

                  This is why I did not reveal my gender when I started my blog. Everyone just asumed that I was a man because, as everyone knows, women are stupid.”

                  You have my sincerest apologies in this regard. My mistake was not based on the erroneous assumption that “women are stupid,” most of what I’ve seen written about this subject came from men.

                  At my University I had women as professors, they were brilliant and two of them taught European history.

                  Needless to say I do not think women are stupid.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 12:40 pm

                • That’s sexist thinking. If people want to think that way,I’d rather have a conversation with my dog. People might tend to think I’m a bleeding heart liberal,for thinking that way. I’m not. It’s called “human decency”. I told Miss Click that used to be my way of thinking,before I went to lockdown. I got in the pen and the building tender told me,” get in as programs as you can. It’ll add to your gain time”. I got in one program that dealt with male attitudes towards women. I actually learned something from it. So when I hear people pop up with attitudes that they have to be stereotyped,because society thinks that way,I’m gonna speak my mind. F–k em if they don’t like it. If people wish to base your intelligence on your sex,then they ain’t worth talking to. They’re just showing their IQ. I’m going to deduce when you got into the journalism and field of photography,it was pretty much a male dominated field. You stayed and proved your worth. Your gender didn’t have dick to do with your ability. Your views may not line up with everyone else’s views here,but they ain’t baseless claims you make here. You research everything before you publish it here. You’ve seen and experienced a lot in your time on this planet. You’ve got knowledge of things,some of us have only heard of . Once again if people don’t like the idea of a female running this site,tell them to go f–k themselves. No. You got knowledge on a ton of shit most of us don’t ,and never will have.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 9:04 pm

                • Hemie… just give up on the banter as you keep ignoring the KEY SENTENCE. Sorry to say but you must have left your brain in with the new york times…

                  “No, I don’t.
                  Jewish agitators and war profiteers at the front-line. Nothing else in this quote.”

                  No he has already explained this plenty of times… The thing you fail to understand is what “held under gas” means… It can only mean to gas people and he targeted this at the Hebrews… I guess your not used to primary sources cause you always run to Völkischer Beobachter to make up your mind.

                  “An agent provocateur like yourself knows a lot about such things, don’t you?”

                  Your the one whom started by calling me a “dumb bitch”. Its quite clear you started with ad hominem attacks.

                  “She’s dumb, so I’ll keep calling her a dumb bitch whether you like it or not.”

                  Hermie… Are you honestly fucking retarded or something? There is only one thing that the sentence could mean.

                  “I’m afraid she’s just showing that US universities let any idiot in.”

                  I’m afraid that Hermie doesn’t understand sarcasm. Perhaps you could not revert to Jims level of insults and act like a damn adult.

                  “Jeff demonstrating his stupidity once again.”

                  Coming form a guy who constantly links to news papers as a resource… I sort of feel bad for you. You don’t know the difference between 7th hand sources and the direct writings of a fucking psychopathy.

                  ” I didn’t say that a woman who knows history is something funny. I said that depicting Click as ‘a woman who knows history’ is hilarious.”

                  Again… The guy who uses 7th hand sources is tying to say that my research is faulty? Whats next? You going to call me a Hasbara and quote some random Zionist?

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 2:56 pm

                • Lol
                  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 3:27 pm

                • Click wrote: “Were hearing this from a guy who treats a news paper as a primary source. ”

                  Only an idiotic creature with an IQ equivalent to room temperature wouldn’t understand how logic it is to use newspaper articles when talking about atrocity propaganda. Got it now, DB*?

                  Click wrote: “You have ignored what is put in clear wording in Hitlers own writings.”

                  I ignored nothing. I explained you something beyond your poor intellectual abilities.

                  * Dumb bitch

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 10:36 am

                • “Only an idiotic creature with an IQ equivalent to room temperature wouldn’t understand how logic it is to use newspaper articles when talking about atrocity propaganda. Got it now, DB*?”

                  News papers are 7th rate sources… Its like trying to argue Claude Rebbi had a point. Its piratically retarded.

                  “I ignored nothing. I explained you something beyond your poor intellectual abilities.
                  * Dumb bitch”

                  Hermie, I have quoted a portion of Hitlers fist hand account… It stands over your pesky opinion… You have done nothing but argue “oh but there is more to the book”.

                  So fucking what? Does it change the sentence that I have presented? NO. Cause clearly it is referencing using the poison gas of world war 1 on Jews. It might be rhetorical, but that was in Hitlers own writing.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 3:01 pm

                • Click wrote: “News papers are 7th rate sources… Its like trying to argue Claude Rebbi had a point. Its piratically retarded.”

                  I’m almost certain that if you research let’s say Nazi propaganda you’ll have to use Nazi newspapers and broadcasts as material. Obvious. Sorry for you that you’re patently unable to understand that.

                  That’s of course what happened with the London Daily Telegraph’s paper of June 1942 about 700,000 Jewish civilians allegedly gassed to death. A London Daily Telegraph’s paper of March 1916 debunked the propaganda fraud of June 1942 by exposing the mere recycling of an old story of atrocity propaganda.

                  Click wrote: “Hermie, I have quoted a portion of Hitlers fist hand account… It stands over your pesky opinion… You have done nothing but argue “oh but there is more to the book”.”

                  No pesky opinion. An obvious conclusion in a proper context. At least for anybody with the necessary intellectual abilities.

                  Click wrote: “So fucking what? Does it change the sentence that I have presented? NO. Cause clearly it is referencing using the poison gas of world war 1 on Jews. It might be rhetorical, but that was in Hitlers own writing.”

                  Again, sorry you’re too dumb to understand the meaning of a sentence in its proper context. Just a symptom of the US educational system’s bankruptcy, I guess…

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 3:30 pm

                • “I’m almost certain that if you research let’s say Nazi propaganda you’ll have to use Nazi newspapers and broadcasts as material. ”

                  Not really… News papers are not their major media. Film was where the nazi’s really hit it off… Also their books for children also are more influential. Their speeches are more influential… I think even News reels had more of a effect then the blasted news papers you link.

                  ” Sorry for you that you’re patently unable to understand that.”

                  Again, as stated news papers are not a PRIMARY SOURCE… They are handed down information. You want to know how trustworthy a news paper is? Well you are the one who linked to the “WW1 propaganda” of gas chambers made form a church that was used to kill Serbians… *That totally happened right Hermie?*

                  “No pesky opinion. An obvious conclusion in a proper context.”

                  Oh so you admit that “holding people under gas” means to kill them with gas right? That is exactly what the quote said. The outside context doesn’t change that.

                  “Again, sorry you’re too dumb to understand the meaning of a sentence in its proper context. Just a symptom of the US educational system’s bankruptcy, I guess…”

                  And yet the quote clearly states to hold people under gas…

                  “If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.”

                  The quote is not out of context like you wish to argue.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 3:41 pm

                • Not really in the film department. Goebells should’ve left the “Titanic” alone. The movie went down faster than the ship itself. I don’t think Leo could’ve saved that version of the Titanic. That shit was a far cry from “metropolis” . That’s German movie making at its finest. American studios weren’t even capable of those kind of effects at that time.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 9:14 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “That Hitler thinks would be a good idea to gas.”

                  If Hitler had been a Japanese civilian of WW2, he would probably have written ‘held under nuclear bombs.’ But he was not a Japanese civilian of WW2. He was a German vet of WW1, so he wrote ‘held under poison gas.’ Stop making as if you failed to understand what he meant in that part of his book. I know you’re not as dumb as Click and you’re smart enough to understand that.

                  Jeff wrote: “Hey, Click’s the one who’s avoiding the name calling.”

                  I was talking to you, not to Click.

                  Jeff wrote: “I don’t think it matters what I think, Hermie. She is displaying a great of knowledge about the subject matter. It’s obviously turning you into a big cranky baby in need of a diaper change.”

                  I know you don’t actually believe that and you’ve realized that I ridiculed her on several occasions.

                  Your inter-troll solidarity is quite laughable.

                  Jeff wrote: “This “idiot” has an answer to all of your BS, Hermie. What does that say about you?”

                  Indeed, an idiotic answer, but an answer anyway. Better than nothing. Or not?

                  Jeff wrote: “I’ll tell you what’s making me laugh, Hermie. You getting whacked around by a woman you consider an idiot.”

                  Glad that your sad life has been illuminated a little by Click’s imaginary victories. Self-delusion may prove salutary. Good for you if that helps to keep your morale high.

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 3:55 pm

                • “If Hitler had been a Japanese civilian of WW2, he would probably have written ‘held under nuclear bombs.”

                  Okey… I have to stop you right there… A fucking moral equivalency argument? REALLY? How low can you get Hermie… This is completely irrelevant to the fact Hitler has a quote inside of his book that speaks of gassing the Jews.

                  “I was talking to you, not to Click.”

                  Doesn’t matter… Your the one who started the ad hominem attacks.

                  “I know you don’t actually believe that and you’ve realized that I ridiculed her on several occasions.”

                  I agree the Fest quote is out of bounds for now… But how in the hell are you getting this worked up over a damn quote he wrote for rhetorical purposes… Your acting like Jim… Which means right now your on the border of acting like a child.

                  “Indeed, an idiotic answer, but an answer anyway. Better than nothing. Or not?”

                  Again… Your still continuing to cry like a fucking child. Get over it. Its not stupid to conclude that the quote is talking about gassing jews… Its clearly written.

                  “Glad that your sad life has been illuminated a little by Click’s imaginary victories. ”

                  There is no victories… Your again just acting like a fucking child over this one little quote.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 4:14 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “That Hitler thinks would be a good idea to gas.”

                  If Hitler had been a Japanese civilian of WW2, he would probably have written ‘held under nuclear bombs.’ But he was not a Japanese civilian of WW2. He was a German vet of WW1, so he wrote ‘held under poison gas.’ Stop making as if you failed to understand what he meant in that part of his book. I know you’re not as dumb as Click and you’re smart enough to understand that.

                  Jeff wrote: “Hey, Click’s the one who’s avoiding the name calling.”

                  I was talking to you, not to Click.

                  Jeff wrote: “I don’t think it matters what I think, Hermie. She is displaying a great of knowledge about the subject matter. It’s obviously turning you into a big cranky baby in need of a diaper change.”

                  I know you don’t actually believe that and you’ve realized that I ridiculed her on several occasions.

                  Your inter-troll solidarity is quite laughable.

                  Jeff wrote: “This “idiot” has an answer to all of your BS, Hermie. What does that say about you?”

                  Indeed, an idiotic answer, but an answer anyway. Better than nothing. Or not?

                  Jeff wrote: “I’ll tell you what’s making me laugh, Hermie. You getting whacked around by a woman you consider an idiot.”

                  Glad that your sad life has been illuminated a little by Click’s imaginary victories. Self-delusion may prove salutary. Good for you if that helps to keep your morale high.

                  I’m not going to go line by line with this, I’m simply getting bored with this whole conversation.

                  Hermie, get a grip. Get over the fact that Click is a woman, FG is as well. Stop insulting her, it just makes you look like a mysogynistic dick head who whines like a bitch when confronted. Frankly at this point we all agree you need a diaper change, maybe this will stop the whining and pouting.
                  If you want to discuss this like an adult cut the crap and deal with the evidence. Bring some proof of your own and we will listen, otherwise drop the whole thing. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is bored at this point.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 4:16 pm

                • Click wrote: “Not really… News papers are not their major media. Film was where the nazi’s really hit it off… Also their books for children also are more influential. Their speeches are more influential… I think even News reels had more of a effect then the blasted news papers you link.”

                  Those “blasted newspapers” were part of the foundations of your dear Holohoax. So show some respect for them.

                  Click wrote: ”Again, as stated news papers are not a PRIMARY SOURCE… They are handed down information.”

                  Funny from somebody using so many hearsay testimonies.

                  Click wrote: You want to know how trustworthy a news paper is? Well you are the one who linked to the “WW1 propaganda” of gas chambers made form a church that was used to kill Serbians… *That totally happened right Hermie?*”

                  Yes, that didn’t happen neither in 1916 nor in 1942. Conrgats! You’ve just understood what atrocity propaganda is.

                  Click wrote: “Oh so you admit that “holding people under gas” means to kill them with gas right? That is exactly what the quote said. The outside context doesn’t change that.”

                  I admit that it means to have them at a place where they are likely to die of poison gas, i.e. the trenches of WW1.

                  Click wrote: “And yet the quote clearly states to hold people under gas…”

                  Perhaps someday you’ll be able to put several sentences together to form an idea and several ideas together to form a reasoning. Let me know when you reach that level.

                  Click wrote: “The quote is not out of context like you wish to argue.”

                  Keep repeating that a few more times. I feel that Jeff is on the verge of being convinced by your ‘argument.’😉

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 4:09 pm

                • Click wrote: “Whats next? You going to call me a Hasbara and quote some random Zionist?”

                  No, I was rather planning to ask you to explain once again why the ground at Treblinka is as flat as the breast of a preteen girl.😉

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 4:16 pm

                • And you’re supposed to ask what ‘Hasbara’ means. Genius Jeff spent weeks writing ‘Hasbera’ as if he didn’t know what it was. That was funny.

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 4:21 pm

                • “And you’re supposed to ask what ‘Hasbara’ means. Genius Jeff spent weeks writing ‘Hasbera’ as if he didn’t know what it was. That was funny.”

                  I didn’t know what it meant. When I found out I laughed myself silly at the stupidity of conspiraloons.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 4:53 pm

                • “Those “blasted newspapers” were part of the foundations of your dear Holohoax. So show some respect for them.”

                  Your obviously smoking something very strong if you can conclude this… I have already explained the only similarity worth noting between the two is the number.

                  “Funny from somebody using so many hearsay testimonies.”

                  Not really, I have used Caption Best but I also used an eyewitness whom took part at dachau as well… AKA Dr. Blaha. (Whom was a czech prisoners at dachau.)

                  The other testimony I used under this thread was an eyewitness to the bombing of guernica.

                  “Yes, that didn’t happen neither in 1916 nor in 1942. Conrgats! You’ve just understood what atrocity propaganda is.”

                  But the news papers you provided didn’t even say the same thing. I agree 700,000 Jews didn’t die at Chelmno. 172,000 Jews died there.
                  This again is a prefect show that using a news paper for a resource is borderline retarded.

                  “I admit that it means to have them at a place where they are likely to die of poison gas, i.e. the trenches of WW1.”

                  So again, in mein kampf it clearly states that Jews should have been held under poison gas… Do you not understand such a simple statement? Mind my wording.. READ IT VERY CAREFULLY. As I said in the past, which you have clearly IGNORED.

                  “The quote clearly is referencing the gas of world war 1 and says that the “Hebrew corrupters of the people” should have been “been held under poison gas”…”

                  Have you again missed my wording…. Explain to me right not where I have said different?

                  “Perhaps someday you’ll be able to put several sentences together to form an idea and several ideas together to form a reasoning. Let me know when you reach that level.”

                  Here:

                  “If at the beginning of the War and during the War twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: twelve thousand scoundrels eliminated in time might have saved the lives of a million real Germans, valuable for the future.”

                  Except 100,000 Jews fought for the Kaiser during world war 1… I guess Hitler forgot his calculator. It still says for Jews to be gassed… It doesn’t change anything which I have said.

                  Now tell me, does it say Jews are to be “held under poison gas”?

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 4:43 pm

                • No, I was rather planning to ask you to explain once again why the ground at Treblinka is as flat as the breast of a preteen girl”

                  Maybe cause the site was leveled… Have you not read anything on Treblinka?

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 4:45 pm

                • Click wrote: “Okey… I have to stop you right there… A fucking moral equivalency argument? REALLY? How low can you get Hermie… This is completely irrelevant to the fact Hitler has a quote inside of his book that speaks of gassing the Jews.”

                  No, no moral argument. Only a contextual argument. I was trying to explain that, as a WW1 vet, when Hitler thought about a front-line in the mid-1920s, he immediately thought about poison gas, trenches, soldiers bled to death, and all the other impressive things he had seen there. His ‘poison gas’ quote was only about sending Marxist agitators and war profiteers to the front-line with the guys dying there.

                  Click wrote: “Doesn’t matter… Your the one who started the ad hominem attacks.”

                  You’re a dumb bitch. I don’t care that you like hearing it or not.

                  Click wrote: “I agree the Fest quote is out of bounds for now…”

                  Despite all your efforts and bad faith to try to save it. Too bad. Perhaps you’ll get better luck new time.

                  Click wrote: “But how in the hell are you getting this worked up over a damn quote he wrote for rhetorical purposes…”

                  Don’t plagiarize Jeff. Bad idea. His argument of a rhetorical sentence holds no water. Hitler really meant what he wrote. No rhetoric involved. He really meant that the Marxist agitators should have been sent on the battlefields instead of being allowed to quietly start Red revolutions in German cities.

                  Click wrote: “Your acting like Jim… Which means right now your on the border of acting like a child.”

                  No surprise. This blog has been turned into a school’s playground.

                  Click wrote: “Again… Your still continuing to cry like a fucking child. Get over it. Its not stupid to conclude that the quote is talking about gassing jews… Its clearly written.”

                  Who is crying ‘No, Hitler was talking about gassing Jews’ without any argument like a child?

                  Click wrote: “There is no victories… Your again just acting like a fucking child over this one little quote.”

                  Of course, there’s no victories on your part. Pure sarcasm.

                  Now this quote is a ‘little quote’?!? No longer the final proof of the Holohoax gas chambers? Good. I see that we’re finally moving forward.😉

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 4:46 pm

                • “No, no moral argument. Only a contextual argument. I was trying to explain that, as a WW1 vet, when Hitler thought about a front-line in the mid-1920s, he immediately thought about poison gas, trenches, soldiers bled to death, and all the other impressive things he had seen there. His ‘poison gas’ quote was only about sending Marxist agitators and war profiteers to the front-line with the guys dying there. ”

                  Read my reply… I will not expand on this… It says Jews should have been held under gas. There is no reason to continue.

                  “You’re a dumb bitch. I don’t care that you like hearing it or not.”

                  Your the one who cannot understand that not once have I made a connection between that damn quote and a gas chamber.

                  “Despite all your efforts and bad faith to try to save it. Too bad. Perhaps you’ll get better luck new time.”

                  As explained I haven’t read the book, and we cannot say for sure that its his source without the index Hermie.

                  “Don’t plagiarize Jeff. Bad idea. His argument of a rhetorical sentence holds no water. Hitler really meant what he wrote. No rhetoric involved. He really meant that the Marxist agitators should have been sent on the battlefields instead of being allowed to quietly start Red revolutions in German cities.”

                  Your the one who keeps thinking I am connecting the quote from Mein Kampf with gas chambers… Your the one who has been insulting people for no reason.

                  “No surprise. This blog has been turned into a school’s playground.”

                  Mostly cause someone here doesn’t understand context. If I don’t say a word. Don’t connect the quote with that word.

                  “Who is crying ‘No, Hitler was talking about gassing Jews’ without any argument like a child?”

                  Where have I cried about it? I keep telling you that the quote is referencing jews being gassed. There is no argument… You just keep overthinking what I mean.

                  “Of course, there’s no victories on your part. Pure sarcasm.”

                  No you just have a lack of wits. You have again missed the quotes purpose. It says to hold Jews under poison gas. Mind I am not saying that this quote was referring to a damn chamber of any kind… It clearly says to hold Jews under gas, just like those whom were fighting… That context is provided right here in the quote.

                  “as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field,”

                  So stop feeding words into peoples mouth.

                  “Now this quote is a ‘little quote’?!? No longer the final proof of the Holohoax gas chambers? Good. I see that we’re finally moving forward”

                  Oh look! My point proven even more… You don’t understand anything at all.. I said I had a quote which he refers to Jews dying of gas/being gassed. Ether way you want to look at it I made no reference at any point in time to a chamber or gas chamber.

                  What ever way you wish to look at it the quote still speaks of Jews being held under poison gas.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 5:01 pm

                • You wrote: “What ever way you wish to look at it the quote still speaks of Jews being held under poison gas.”

                  Do you think that the Jews were gassed by having liquid gas poured on their heads?

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 5:15 pm

                • Depends… If your referring to the quote in which hitler talk about holding jews under poison gas as a reference to world war 1… then no…

                  If you mean at auschwitz… No… Cause they used Zyklon which is in diatomaceous earth.

                  Ether way people are dying by some means of gas.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 5:19 pm

                • “And you’re supposed to ask what ‘Hasbara’ means. Genius Jeff spent weeks writing ‘Hasbera’ as if he didn’t know what it was. That was funny.’

                  *YAWN* I understand what Hasbara means… I don’t see much of a reason to continue with this cause it will just lead you ignoring my words further.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 4:47 pm

                • Click wrote: “Your obviously smoking something very strong if you can conclude this… I have already explained the only similarity worth noting between the two is the number.”

                  And the source (the London Daily Telegraph), the weapon of mass murder (communal gas chambers, stabs), the victims (defenseless civilians in a territory held by Britain’s enemies of the day, a territory where typhus was raging and killing numerous people; how convenient; how familiar) and the accusers (His Most Gracious Majesty’s childish wannabe heroes able to llok half-humane only when demonizing their enemies). Or in other words, everything but the release dates and the number of grisly details.

                  Click wrote: “Not really, I have used Caption Best but I also used an eyewitness whom took part at dachau as well… AKA Dr. Blaha. (Whom was a czech prisoners at dachau.) The other testimony I used under this thread was an eyewitness to the bombing of guernica.”

                  Stop dancing around this thing. Testimonies are testimonies, i.e. verbal BS based on faith and trust. Just food for cryptozoologists and ufologists.

                  And didn’t Blaha talk about human-skin lamp shades and similar dropped lies?

                  Click wrote: “But the news papers you provided didn’t even say the same thing. I agree 700,000 Jews didn’t die at Chelmno. 172,000 Jews died there. This again is a prefect show that using a news paper for a resource is borderline retarded.”

                  The Daily Telegraph article of June 1942 didn’t claim that 700,000 Jews were killed at Chelmno. It mentioned Chelmno among other things and 700,000 was the total for the whole area, not for Chelmno alone. Stop ridiculing Jeff by demonstrating that you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re supposed to be knowledgeable. Don’t forget that. Jeff now looks like a fool with your at least 3 mistakes in every sentence.

                  Click wrote: “So again, in mein kampf it clearly states that Jews should have been held under poison gas… Do you not understand such a simple statement? Mind my wording.. READ IT VERY CAREFULLY. As I said in the past, which you have clearly IGNORED.”

                  Capital letters! Oh no!! I’m now compelled to see that you were right!!!😉

                  Jeff wrote (erh Click wrote; almost another victory for Jeff): “The quote clearly is referencing the gas of world war 1 and says that the “Hebrew corrupters of the people” should have been “been held under poison gas”…”

                  Cut it in parts even shorter. Maybe the actual context and meaning will appear even more clearly that way?

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 6:03 pm

                • “And the source (the London Daily Telegraph), the weapon of mass murder (communal gas chambers, stabs), the victims (defenseless civilians in a territory held by Britain’s enemies of the day…”

                  Again! Think Hermie! Think!

                  Mobile gas chambers… the other was a converted church into a gas chamber… The only thing in common they really share is the 700,000 number.

                  It again stresses my point that News papers are not a valid source.

                  “Stop dancing around this thing. Testimonies are testimonies, i.e. verbal BS based on faith and trust. Just food for cryptozoologists and ufologists.”

                  There is a major difference between the testimony of a Victim and people who see UFO’s. Its not dancing anyway… You didn’t present any issue here. So far I have worked mostly off the testimonial of the perpetrators. With exception to Dachau.

                  “And didn’t Blaha talk about human-skin lamp shades and similar dropped lies?”

                  I don’t think he said anything about human-skin lamp shades. You can check and see if I am wrong though.

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20070626040301/http://www.lib.uconn.edu/online/research/speclib/ASC/Nuremberg/witness_blaha.htm

                  He did make a few contradictions in his testimony though, that is according to the USHMM.

                  “The Daily Telegraph article of June 1942 didn’t claim that 700,000 Jews were killed at Chelmno. It mentioned Chelmno among other things and 700,000 was the total for the whole area, not for Chelmno alone.”

                  I am working purely off memory here bud. Ether way in the region 700,000 by the means of gas vans is way to much.

                  “Stop ridiculing Jeff by demonstrating that you don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re supposed to be knowledgeable. Don’t forget that. Jeff now looks like a fool with your at least 3 mistakes in every sentence.”

                  Not really… It’s not even making him look bad. I just don’t dabble myself in Newspapers.

                  “Capital letters! Oh no!! I’m now compelled to see that you were right!!!”

                  I added the caps so you would actually read those lines. I love how you accused me of dancing yet you were being rather selective here.

                  “Cut it in parts even shorter. Maybe the actual context and meaning will appear even more clearly that way?”

                  This isn’t what I have advocated at all..

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 6:23 pm

                • Click wrote: “not once have I made a connection between that damn quote and a gas chamber.”

                  At last!!!

                  Now the 6-million-dollar question: Why did you feel the need to post that quote on a blog dealing with the Holohoax if, as you have now finally conceded, there is no “connection between that damn quote and a gas chamber”????

                  Why not a quote about vegetables or knitting instead? Also matters unconnected with the main topic of this blog. Wasn’t Rauschning’s fake quote enough? Was an off topic quote really needed? Unless you just like spankings…

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 6:16 pm

                • Your the one which continued to make that connection.

                  “Wasn’t Rauschning’s fake quote enough?”

                  Wasn’t your Churchill quote fake enough?

                  Again I will buy fests book in the future. Mind you have most likely continued to use false quotes such as your Churchill one and yet you act as if fests quote is incorrect. Here’s the thing. If Rauschning is really fests source then at least Fest has a source. Your Churchill quote isn’t even in the claimed book of origin.

                  “Was an off topic quote really needed?”

                  Nope, but FG requested to know the quote.

                  “Unless you just like spankings”

                  Your the idiot who continued to connect it with homicidal gas chambers that wouldn’t have been around till maybe 9 years later (rough estimate).

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 6:38 pm

                • Click wrote: “Maybe cause the site was leveled… Have you not read anything on Treblinka?”

                  And you, have you read (or experienced) nothing about burials and ground depressions? Even if the site had been leveled, large depressions would have appeared after a while where large mass graves had been dug out. Remember now? You don’t need to violate the laws of geology and pedology. You have violated enough laws of Mother Nature so far…

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 6:26 pm

                • “And you, have you read (or experienced) nothing about burials and ground depressions? ”

                  Its been explained already to you that the surface is flat. You are the one whom purposed during at last chat that the site was leveled. Mind also that in 1945 there was a large exhumation of the site as well.

                  Might I also say that Kurt Franz said.

                  “It was during that period that the original camp was demolished. Everything was leveled off and lupins were planted…”

                  I guess so much for your ground depressions.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 6:41 pm

                • Click wrote: “I don’t think he said anything about human-skin lamp shades. You can check and see if I am wrong though.”

                  I’m afraid superstar-witness Blaha will have to be dropped or Nazi human-skin artifacts will have to be provided and scientifically examined.

                  “We took the skin from the chest and back, then used chemicals to treat the skin. Then the skins were placed outside in the sun and parts were cut for saddles, breeches, gloves, house slippers, ladies’ handbags. […] They were prepared and sent either to SS schools or given to some of the SS men.” – Dr. Blaha at the Dachau ‘trial’

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 6:40 pm

                • “I’m afraid superstar-witness Blaha will have to be dropped or Nazi human-skin artifacts will have to be provided and scientifically examined.”

                  Nice to know, still don’t see anything to do with a lampshade. Though its rather interesting that he mentions all the other things… Like Tattooed skin… Something which is still purported to today. Its still believed that Isle took tattooed skin form some of her victims. Though its not reported for Dachau, that is what I have for personal knowledge. This could just be conflation on his part.

                  Parts of his testimony have documents to back him up. An example is the air pressure tests.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 6:57 pm

                • I don’t remember where it was. It was a long time ago. I stopped into a tattoo parlor to check out his flash ( he had the same shit everyone else had). On the wall by his space,was a piece of skin with a tattoo on it. I thought it phony,but it was real. It said underneath it,”for those who don’t pay,we do repossession”. He told me,his brother left it to him in his will. I don’t remember the specifics,but this was the real deal. As far as nazis and human skin lampshades,that sounds like urban legend. I have an easier time buying into a “tigagator” ( half tiger. Half gator. The Cajuns swear up and down they exist in the Louisiana swamps). Why would a person want any reminder of a race of people,they supposedly hate so bad,being around. Even if everything happened exactly as history recorded it,why would cultured people do sick shit like this. We’re not talking about Queen Bathory (I think that’s her name) here. I don’t even think Jeffry Dahmer was this f–led up. I just can’t buy into human skin lampshades.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 8:16 pm

                • I don’t believe the lampshades ether… When I was in middle-school my teacher went into depth about the things like soap and the lampshade.

                  Like human soap was made at stutthof.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 9:11 pm

                • I “might” buy into the soap. That would still be a reach for me though. That sounds like something Pablo Escobar would’ve done. Hey his daughter wanted a unicorn for her birthday . He bought a horse and had a horn stapled (or nailed. Something like that) to the horses head. The horse ended up dying. That’s a person I would expect to pull some shit like human lampshade skins . He was sick enough to do shit like that. I know his buddy Carlos Lehder was a big fan of Hitlers. However Carlos had Hitler all wrong. By that I mean that he misunderstood everything Hitler was about. For example,he couldn’t comprehend just how profound of an effect ww1 had on Hitler. Shit like that. Carlos thought he could overthrow the Colombian government overnight using Hitlers “do it yourself” plan. I think Carlos was using too much of his Peruvian Marching Powder. I know he’s half German,but I think Hitler would’ve had Carlos shot. He’s the one that got Noriega sent up the river. He got his sentence reduced to 55 years,but he’s better off in lockdown. The minute he gets out,he’s a dead man. Like the adage goes,”snitches are a dying breed”or “snitches are on the endangered species list”. Which ever adage you prefer. The choice is yours.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 9:37 pm

                • The soap was rather small in quantity. It was never an industrial scale scheme, it as only a few petty people. They did also make human soap in Jasenovac as well, but this zone was not controlled by the nazi’s. I would direct you to this.

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/10/tests-show-that-nazis-used-human.html

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 1, 2016 @ 1:28 am

                • You wrote: “The soap was rather small in quantity. It was never an industrial scale scheme, it as only a few petty people.”

                  Yes, it’s true. The Nazis did make human soap. I wrote about it on this blog post:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/sing-right-out-for-grandmas-lye-soap/

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 1, 2016 @ 6:35 am

                • You wrote: “I don’t believe the lampshades ether”
                  Sheldon made a joke about the word “ether” on one of the Big Bang shows.

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 1, 2016 @ 6:55 am

                • Lol

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 1, 2016 @ 8:59 am

                • You wrote: “When I was in middle-school my teacher went into depth about the things like soap and the lampshade.”

                  There should be a new law that Holocaust jokes cannot be told, except in college courses.

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 1, 2016 @ 6:58 am

                • Oh come on FG! You shouldn’t be making fun of it at all! My grandfather was there! He got drunk and fell out of a guard tower!

                  All jokes aside my teacher in middle school made us read An American Life, the book about Clay. It had the following inside of the book:

                  “Some reporter had called her the “Bitch of Buchenwald”, had written that she had lamp shades made of human skin in her house. And that was introduced in court, where it was absolutely proven that the lamp shades were made out of goat skin.”

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 1, 2016 @ 9:05 am

                • I just ran across something. It’s called,”Hitler Historical Museum (hitler.org)”. Is this an actual physical place,or is that just the name they use for the site?

                  Comment by Tim — August 1, 2016 @ 9:17 am

                • Website. They have the texts of Mein Kampf saved to their site.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 1, 2016 @ 9:23 am

                • Click wrote: “Again! Think Hermie! Think! Mobile gas chambers… the other was a converted church into a gas chamber… The only thing in common they really share is the 700,000 number.”

                  Morgues converted to facilities gassing people to death en masse = gas chambers. But Churches converted to facilities gassing people to death en masse =/= gas chambers???? C’mon. There is almost no gas chamber identical to one another in the Holohoax. And nevertheless I don’t hear you claim that an alleged gas chamber or another was not a gas chamber because it differed from the alleged gas chambers at Birkenau or Treblinka.

                  A gas chamber is a gas chamber. Stop ridiculing yourself with that.

                  Click wrote: “It again stresses my point that News papers are not a valid source.”

                  Except when they ‘report’ the Holohoax, don’t they?

                  Click wrote: “There is a major difference between the testimony of a Victim and people who see UFO’s. Its not dancing anyway… You didn’t present any issue here. So far I have worked mostly off the testimonial of the perpetrators. With exception to Dachau.”

                  Alleged perpetrators, alleged victims, or bigfoot hunters, that doesn’t matter. A testimony is nothing but a mere series of words without any intrinsic probative value that anybody can equally choose to believe or to disbelieve. More a matter of faith than of anything else.

                  Click wrote: “I am working purely off memory here bud. Ether way in the region 700,000 by the means of gas vans is way to much.”

                  It was not supposed to be 700,000 in gas vans, but 700,000 in gas vans, stabbed, shot, or even killed by grenades.

                  Click wrote: “Not really… It’s not even making him look bad. I just don’t dabble myself in Newspapers.”

                  So don’t talk about the content of newspaper articles as you did.

                  Click wrote: “Nope, but FG requested to know the quote.”

                  Oops. Caught with your pants down once again. The first mention of that ‘quote’ on this page is one by you spontaneously posting it to show John Smith that Hitler had always planned to build gas chambers and gas millions of Jews to death in there.

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 7:09 pm

                • “Morgues converted to facilities gassing people to death en masse = gas chambers.”

                  Only 1 morgue was converted… That was Krema 1…

                  “But Churches converted to facilities gassing people to death en masse =/= gas chambers????”

                  Again read the papers. One says “Mobile Gas Chambers” the other says “Converted Church”… Where does the morgue come into play?

                  “Except when they ‘report’ the Holohoax, don’t they?”

                  No… Here I will give you a perfect example of why News paper are not a source.

                  Well? Do you think this guys a credible source? Is Walter Trustworthy? No.

                  “Oops. Caught with your pants down once again. The first mention of that ‘quote’ on this page is one by you spontaneously posting it to show John Smith that Hitler had always planned to build gas chambers and gas millions of Jews to death in there.”

                  Actually no… Again Fg also requested to know the quote. Your question was:

                  “Was an off topic quote really needed?”

                  I said no. The argument didn’t really spread out till after FG requested the quote. You posted the entire page, though and it took me saying:

                  “Hermie, again I never said he planned out the holocaust in mein kampf. What I said is accurate to what he provided. He did call for the gassing of Jews.”

                  The point being made what accurate… You just failed to read anything early on. Also mind that beforehand the quote was targeted to talk about Hitlers sanity.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 7:29 pm

                • Converted “church”? As in a place of worship? Whoever came up with that one,saw Mel Gibsons,”The Patriot”,one too many times. I mean if they actually used a church to gas these folks,it reminds me of that scene in “the patriot”.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 8:21 pm

                • Yeah lol. Nah its just a news paper giving off a horror scene.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 9:12 pm

                • Okay. My mistake. I misunderstood it. Sorry.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 9:17 pm

                • Click wrote: “Nice to know, still don’t see anything to do with a lampshade. Though its rather interesting that he mentions all the other things…”

                  Yes, that’s interesting…to expose him as a liar.

                  Do you believe that the Nazis made human-skin “saddles, breeches, gloves, house slippers, ladies’ handbags”? Really???

                  Click wrote: “Like Tattooed skin… Something which is still purported to today.”

                  Yes, there was a guy at Buchenwald (which was also a prison) studying the connection between tattoos and criminality, and he had some samples for his study. What a big deal! Still no proof, no real proof I mean, that any inmate was ever killed for the collection of such samples.

                  Click wrote: “Its still believed that Isle took tattooed skin form some of her victims.”

                  Not really. General Lucius D. Clay said, after analysis, that the alleged human-skin lampshade of Buchenwald was in fact made of goat skin, and Ilse Koch was even released during a short time because the charges against her were patently just a pile of BS proved by no serious evidence. But since the US population failed to understand why the so-called Bitch/Witch of Buchenwald was out, and since it was easier to imprison her again than to explain the US citizens the subtleties of wartime atrocity propaganda, Isle Koch was sent to jail again.

                  Click wrote: “Though its not reported for Dachau, that is what I have for personal knowledge. This could just be conflation on his part.”

                  Yes, conflation. Holohoaxsters’ ultimate weapon of mass bamboozlement.

                  Click wrote: “Parts of his testimony have documents to back him up. An example is the air pressure tests.”

                  A partial liar is still a liar. Normal courts sack witnesses for much less than that.

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 7:29 pm

                • “Yes, that’s interesting…to expose him as a liar.
                  Do you believe that the Nazis made human-skin “saddles, breeches, gloves, house slippers, ladies’ handbags”? Really???”

                  Did I say this? No. They did have human skin products but only form the work of Koch.

                  “Yes, there was a guy at Buchenwald (which was also a prison) studying the connection between tattoos and criminality, and he had some samples for his study. What a big deal!”

                  Never said it was a big deal. Your the one dramatizing it.

                  “Not really. General Lucius D. Clay said, after analysis, that the alleged human-skin lampshade of Buchenwald was in fact made of goat skin, and Ilse Koch was even released during a short time because the charges against her were patently just a pile of BS proved by no serious evidence.”

                  Ummm no… Again there is a difference between the lampshade any her work Hermie… She is claimed to have killed people for their skin to add decorative tattoo’s to it the skin.

                  As said on JVL:

                  http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/ikoch.html

                  “Yes, conflation. Holohoaxsters’ ultimate weapon of mass bamboozlement.”

                  Ah, so thank you for confirming to me that Dresden never happened. Since witnesses describe watching people melt into puddles.

                  ” Sure, all of the survivors pretty much agree on the point that the city was bombed by the Allies, but how reliable are survivors who also testify to “puddles of melted human flesh” and people “glowing blue (or orange) and disintegrating” – and this, in sealed bunkers which were protected from the fire.”

                  – The Mad Revisionist

                  Learn that people under times of stress can have their memory distorted.

                  “A partial liar is still a liar. Normal courts sack witnesses for much less than that”

                  Conflation doesn’t make something a lie. Just like how the people melted at Dresden.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 7:57 pm

                • Click wrote: “Its been explained already to you that the surface is flat.”

                  Yes, I remember that. And do you remember that I explained to you it shouldn’t be so if the orthodox narrative was true?

                  Click wrote: “You are the one whom purposed during at last chat that the site was leveled. Mind also that in 1945 there was a large exhumation of the site as well.”

                  The lack of any depression there makes me think that the Bolshevist Poles didn’t even performed such a large exhumation but that they only claimed that they had done it.

                  Click wrote: “Might I also say that Kurt Franz said. “It was during that period that the original camp was demolished. Everything was leveled off and lupins were planted…” I guess so much for your ground depressions.”

                  So what? Are you claiming that a Lidar is unable to see through lupins? Or that lupins can prevent an exhumed ground from collapsing and forming depressions after a while???

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 7:38 pm

                • “Yes, I remember that. And do you remember that I explained to you it shouldn’t be so if the orthodox narrative was true?”

                  Except you ignore the lack of growth from the area… The trees were planted in. Mind also if the orthodox narrative is true the place should appear flat still… Due to such things at the “gold rush in treblinka”.

                  “The lack of any depression there makes me think that the Bolshevist Poles didn’t even performed such a large exhumation but that they only claimed that they had done it.”

                  Believe what you wish, but the reports say otherwise. The poles could have just easily smoothed the place over again… which appears to be what happened.

                  “So what? Are you claiming that a Lidar is unable to see through lupins? Or that lupins can prevent an exhumed ground from collapsing and forming depressions after a while???”

                  Lupins don’t have anything to do with it… its just part of the quote… These ideas are rather poor as well, as I haven’t made one notion of ether claim. The point was the ground was flattened… The poles only spread it around… and the large number of grave robbers would just cause the ground to spread around.

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2008/03/gold-rush-in-treblinka.html

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 8:05 pm

                • Click wrote: “Only 1 morgue was converted… That was Krema 1…”

                  As well as Krema 2 and 3 at Birkenau, i.e. the core of the Holohoax.

                  Click wrote: “Again read the papers. One says “Mobile Gas Chambers” the other says “Converted Church”… Where does the morgue come into play?”

                  At Auschwitz-Birkenau.

                  Click wrote: “No… Here I will give you a perfect example of why News paper are not a source. Well? Do you think this guys a credible source? Is Walter Trustworthy? No.”

                  Very numerous newspapers reported on the holodomor. There is probably a name for a fallacy making a generalization based on an exception, and that name suits your ‘argument’ perfectly well. You’ll of course find more newspaper articles talking about the holodomor than newspaper articles denying it.

                  Click wrote: “Actually no… Again Fg also requested to know the quote.”

                  FG requested to know the quote (July 27) 2 days after you had already posted it (July 25).

                  Click wrote: “I said no. The argument didn’t really spread out till after FG requested the quote. You posted the entire page, though and it took me saying: “Hermie, again I never said he planned out the holocaust in mein kampf. What I said is accurate to what he provided. He did call for the gassing of Jews.””

                  Isn’t the ‘Holocaust’ largely the gassing of Jews?

                  Originally, you didn’t say “the gassing of Jews.” You said “gassing the Jews.” Nuance…

                  A lil’ reminder: “his own writings are rather revealing. He did speak about gassing the Jews in Mein Kampf.” – You, July 25.

                  From ‘revealing’ writings & ‘gassing the Jews’ to ‘that damn little quote’ unconnected with the Holocaust. Waw. Sounds like a big turnabout.😉

                  Click wrote: “The point being made what accurate… You just failed to read anything early on. Also mind that beforehand the quote was targeted to talk about Hitlers sanity.”

                  Changes nothing. You’ve been proven wrong and you are now in trouble to just admit it frankly.

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 8:15 pm

                • “As well as Krema 2 and 3 at Birkenau, i.e. the core of the Holohoax.”

                  Pressac never said they were conversions… He said they were

                  “originally designed as morgues… It wasn’t an after construction decision to add the holes in the roof.

                  “At Auschwitz-Birkenau.”

                  There is no mention of morgues being converted over to gas chambers in your paper.. That is from what I can remember.

                  “Very numerous newspapers reported on the holodomor. There is probably a name for a fallacy making a generalization based on an exception, and that name suits your ‘argument’ perfectly well. You’ll of course find more newspaper articles talking about the holodomor than newspaper articles denying it.”

                  This was ignoring the point that Journalists write what they please. They will find a story and at times May even distort that story.

                  “FG requested to know the quote (July 27) 2 days after you had already posted it (July 25).”

                  True but as stated the issue of the quote didn’t really get to an extreme till afterwords.

                  “Isn’t the ‘Holocaust’ largely the gassing of Jews? ”

                  Not really… Its the bureaucratic extermination of the Jews… More people died by the einzatsgrouppen then died in any single camp. It was a genocide which was conducted by different means.

                  “Originally, you didn’t say “the gassing of Jews.” You said “gassing the Jews.” Nuance…”

                  *Yawn* Read the very first reply sent to you Hermie.

                  “No…. He really did speak of using poison gas on the Jews…

                  “If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.”

                  -Volume Two – A Reckoning
                  Chapter XV: The Right of Emergency Defense”

                  Its not really a huge turn around as again one could point out again the major word in that manner was “held”

                  “Changes nothing. You’ve been proven wrong and you are now in trouble to just admit it frankly.”

                  Except it does change quite a lot… Its a show this guys had an unnatural thought process.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 9:05 pm

                • Click wrote: “Pressac never said they were conversions… He said they were “originally designed as morgues… It wasn’t an after construction decision to add the holes in the roof.”

                  Of course, Pressac (assuming the guy is something else than a multi-debunked pathetic clown) said the morgues of Krema II and III were originally designed and BUILT as morgues. How can you explain the reverse ventilation system of those rooms otherwise?

                  Click wrote: “There is no mention of morgues being converted over to gas chambers in your paper.. That is from what I can remember.”

                  Of course, there was no mention of morgues being converted over to gas chambers in the Daily Telegraph paper of June 1942. Auschwitz only entered the Allies’ arsenal of atrocity propaganda as late as in March 1944.

                  I wrote ‘morgues converted over to gas chambers’ because Auschwitz-Birkenau and its alleged gas chambers are NOW the world capital of the Holohoax mythology.

                  Click wrote: “This was ignoring the point that Journalists write what they please. They will find a story and at times May even distort that story.”

                  Just as victors aka the writers of history.

                  Click wrote: “True but as stated the issue of the quote didn’t really get to an extreme till afterwords.”

                  Wouldn’t have got to an extreme afterwards if you had just immediately admitted that you were wrong.

                  Click wrote: “Not really… Its the bureaucratic extermination of the Jews… More people died by the einzatsgrouppen then died in any single camp. It was a genocide which was conducted by different means.”

                  The Nuremberg storytellers said it was 4 million Jewish dead in concentration camps, mainly in gas chambers, and 2 million in execution pits and ghettos.

                  Click wrote: “*Yawn* Read the very first reply sent to you Hermie.”

                  I wasn’t talking about your very reply sent to me. I was talking about your first bamboozlement attempt with that quote.

                  Click wrote: “Its not really a huge turn around as again one could point out again the major word in that manner was “held””

                  Duck, duck , duck…

                  Click wrote: “Except it does change quite a lot… Its a show this guys had an unnatural thought process.”

                  Sending various kinds of war profiteers to battlefields [instead of letting them just benefit from wars, away from any fighting] is no unnatural thought process. An opinion very widespread among pacifists for instance. Perhaps Bush Jr. wouldn’t have attacked Iraq and other countries so readily if there was a law in America automatically sending his own sons, daughters, nieces, nephews and other relatives to the front-line of every US war throughout the world. Ditto for all the other US politicians voting for wars. Easy to be in favor of wars when your own Vietnam War was some kind of sweet holidays in the National Guard and when you know that none of your relatives will ever see a bullet being shot except in cosy hunting trips or if he or she (i.e. your relative) wants to go fight on some battlefields.

                  Comment by hermie — August 1, 2016 @ 8:30 am

                • “Of course, Pressac (assuming the guy is something else than a multi-debunked pathetic clown) said the morgues of Krema II and III were originally designed and BUILT as morgues.”

                  Umm no… He said they were originally designed as morgues… That is it. He believes that the holes were added with intent… It’s not the same as Krema 1 where the Germans just smashed holes in the roof and added a chimney.

                  “How can you explain the reverse ventilation system of those rooms otherwise?”

                  How could you explain the heating system. He believed the gas chambers were built part way but through the completion the room was built with the purpose of being as gas chamber. Also mind the ventilation system was 15 air exchange… Not the claimed 9 air exchanges that Rudolf pushes.

                  “Of course, there was no mention of morgues being converted over to gas chambers in the Daily Telegraph paper of June 1942. Auschwitz only entered the Allies’ arsenal of atrocity propaganda as late as in March 1944.
                  I wrote ‘morgues converted over to gas chambers’ because Auschwitz-Birkenau and its alleged gas chambers are NOW the world capital of the Holohoax mythology.”

                  Except the holocaust isn’t the nonsense that makes up the claimed Serbian genocide… You fail to understand the point that your news paper is unrelated.

                  “Just as victors aka the writers of history.”

                  Oh? And what book did the Mongols write?

                  Is that why we see your world war 1 propaganda taught in schools?*

                  *sarcasm.

                  “Wouldn’t have got to an extreme afterwards if you had just immediately admitted that you were wrong.”

                  Except I’m not. Read the damn quote.

                  “The Nuremberg storytellers said it was 4 million Jewish dead in concentration camps, mainly in gas chambers, and 2 million in execution pits and ghettos.”

                  It’s a rough estimate from a doctor… Do you have anything better then this? Also mind that camps doesn’t just mean the death camps.

                  “Duck, duck , duck…”

                  Wow! Now we see such an unoriginal response! Way to copy Jeff.

                  As for your last response, I see no need. It’s the same bullshit just like your Churchill quote.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 1, 2016 @ 9:20 am

                • Click wrote: “Except you ignore the lack of growth from the area… The trees were planted in. Mind also if the orthodox narrative is true the place should appear flat still… Due to such things at the “gold rush in treblinka”. ”

                  Trees don’t level grounds. And the alleged gold rush at Treblinka would have just caused additional depressions.

                  Click wrote: “Believe what you wish, but the reports say otherwise.”

                  Holohoaxsters are the last people in this world calling Communist propaganda papers ‘reports.’ Hilarious.

                  Click wrote: “The poles could have just easily smoothed the place over again… which appears to be what happened.”

                  No evidence for mass murders at Treblinka? No problem. The Poles must have erased any evidence for murders at Treblinka. What else?

                  I fail to see an elephant in my house. Do you think that it is so because there’s no elephant in house? Or that it is so because some Poles broke into my house and hid it very well?😉

                  Click wrote: “Lupins don’t have anything to do with it… its just part of the quote… These ideas are rather poor as well, as I haven’t made one notion of ether claim. The point was the ground was flattened… The poles only spread it around… and the large number of grave robbers would just cause the ground to spread around.”

                  Grave robbers wouldn’t have caused the ground to spread around. More diggers, more holes, more depressions in the ground.

                  A ground dug out once = depressions.
                  But a ground [allegedly] dug out thrice = a ground as flat as a billiard cloth ????
                  In what world? Pandora?

                  Sturdy Colls stupidly used Lidar imagery to find tiny graves at Treblinka. But when she did that, she also exposed what I now call the Treblinka 2 billiard cloth in full light. Now the genie is out of the bottle and nothing will make him return inside, not even Holohoaxsters’ usual violations of the laws of physics.

                  Comment by hermie — August 1, 2016 @ 9:04 am

                • The ground was leveled a long time before the trees. I believe you missed the point.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 1, 2016 @ 9:22 am

                • Click wrote: “Umm no… He said they were originally designed as morgues… That is it. He believes that the holes were added with intent… It’s not the same as Krema 1 where the Germans just smashed holes in the roof and added a chimney.”

                  I’m not certain that I can see what you mean. The Germans allegedly smashed holes in the roof of Krema 1, 2 & 3 with homicidal intent. Are you saying that the morgues of Krema 2 & 3 were directly built with holes in their roof when the morgue of Krema 1 was not?

                  Click wrote: “How could you explain the heating system.”

                  Easily. Such morgues were fridges, not freezers. The storage temperature was to be between around +2°C and +8°C, what was enough to keep bodies up to several weeks. Frozen bodies are harder to cremate. And frozen bodies stick together when they are piled, what is obviously completely impractical.

                  Click wrote: “He believed the gas chambers were built part way but through the completion the room was built with the purpose of being as gas chamber.”

                  Nonsensical theory. If this had been true, the Germans would have installed the blowers (air intake vents) at the bottom of those rooms and the aspirators at the top, not the other way round.

                  Click wrote: “Also mind the ventilation system was 15 air exchange… Not the claimed 9 air exchanges that Rudolf pushes.”

                  15 or 9 intakes, it doesn’t matter anyway. That was far from enough for such rooms. Zyklon B delousing gas chambers with circulating air systems were equipped with 72 air exchanges per hour, and the dissecting rooms of Auschwitz-Birkenau were equipped with 17 air exchanges per hour. And the alleged undressing rooms were slightly more ventilated than the alleged gas chambers.

                  Click wrote: “Except the holocaust isn’t the nonsense that makes up the claimed Serbian genocide… You fail to understand the point that your news paper is unrelated.”

                  I don’t fail to understand your pathetically-ridiculous point. I’ve cut it to pieces.

                  Click wrote: “Oh? And what book did the Mongols write?”

                  A lot. The National Library of Mongolia has over 3 million books, including around one million rare Mongolian books. As far as history is concerned, the book “The Secret History of the Mongols” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_History_of_the_Mongols) deserves to be mentioned and was written shortly after the death of Gengis Khan. Another major Mongolian history book is Jami’ al-tawarikh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami%27_al-tawarikh) written in the early 14th century.

                  Click wrote: “Except I’m not. Read the damn quote.”

                  I did it. And I am fortunately able to understand accurate meanings in their proper context. I guess I should thank my own genetic background for that…

                  Click wrote: “It’s a rough estimate from a doctor… Do you have anything better then this? Also mind that camps doesn’t just mean the death camps.”

                  Didn’t know that Wilhelm Hoettl and Adolf Eichmann, the alleged sources for the 6-million figure (as well as for the 4-million + 2-million figure) in the orthodox narrative, were doctors.

                  Click wrote: “Wow! Now we see such an unoriginal response! Way to copy Jeff.”

                  Rather regard it as some kind of tribute to our Master of Ducks…

                  Comment by hermie — August 1, 2016 @ 7:37 pm

                • “I’m not certain that I can see what you mean. The Germans allegedly smashed holes in the roof of Krema 1, 2 & 3 with homicidal intent.”

                  From what I remember reading non of the Germans speak about smashing holes into Krema 2 or 3… They were constructed with the room. Krema 1 is the only building alleged in this fashion.

                  Hoess: The killing of the above-mentioned Russian POWs using Cyclon B was continued, but no longer in Block II because it took at least two days to air out the building. We therefore used the morgue of the crematory as the gassing facility. The doors were made airtight and we knocked some holes in the ceiling through which we could throw in the gas crystals.

                  Hoess makes no similar mention to any of the other crematoriums… The holes were built in with the construction, that is what I remember from Pressacs book. Mind though hes is also one of the few people whom believe this theory.

                  “Are you saying that the morgues of Krema 2 & 3 were directly built with holes in their roof when the morgue of Krema 1 was not?”

                  From what i remember reading in Pressacs book he says that the holes in Krema 1 were smashed in a long time after construction. What I am trying to understand is how you take Pressacs which says the altercation happened during construction and connect that with them smashing holes in the roof.

                  “Easily. Such morgues were fridges, not freezers. The storage temperature was to be between around +2°C and +8°C, what was enough to keep bodies up to several weeks.”
                  That’s more absurd then your Churchill quote, especially when the room is also labeled as a Gaskimmer…

                  “Floor concreting in gas chamber”

                  If we read Pressacs book the heat would not have been within your dreamed range.

                  “In the author ‘s opinion, this letter is one of the most vital elements in proving the existence of a homicidal gas chamber in Leichenkeller 1 of Krematorium II. Otherwise it is incomprehensible and absurd that there should be plans to heat a morgue, a place that by definition should be kept cool. Furthermore. one cellar of Krematorium III I formally designated an “Auskleideraum / Undressing room”. The letter does not specify which cellar, but Messing, in his timesheets, indicates it precisely: “Auskleidekeller II / undressing cellar II [for 2]”. Thus, this document contains two damning “slips”, important indirect proofs demonstrating the “abnormality” of the Leichenkeller: Leichenkeller 1 can no longer be an underground morgue because there are plans to “preheat” it; Leichenkeller 2 can no longer be a morgue because it has become a place where people get undressed.”

                  If you truely care then you could also maybe read the documents in his book. They clearly spell these rooms to not be morgues. As well if you theory of heating is correct, then why did only one room have heating? Why would this room also need showerheads and a gas tight door?

                  http://www.h-ref.de/vernichtung/gaskammer/arbeitsblatt.php

                  “15 or 9 intakes, it doesn’t matter anyway. That was far from enough for such rooms. Zyklon B delousing gas chambers with circulating air systems were equipped with 72 air exchanges per hour, and the dissecting rooms of Auschwitz-Birkenau were equipped with 17 air exchanges per hour. And the alleged undressing rooms were slightly more ventilated than the alleged gas chambers.”

                  Mind providing a source for your own number of 17 air exchanges?

                  Also no, according to rudolf the undressing room had 10.35 exchanges per hour… That is no where close to pressacs 15.8 air exchanges per hour.

                  “I don’t fail to understand your pathetically-ridiculous point. I’ve cut it to pieces.”

                  Except you haven’t your news papers completely show my point that the press is not trustworthy.

                  “A lot. The National Library of Mongolia has over 3 million books, including around one million rare Mongolian books. As far as history is concerned, the book “The Secret History of the Mongols” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_History_of_the_Mongols) deserves to be mentioned and was written shortly after the death of Gengis Khan. Another major Mongolian history book is Jami’ al-tawarikh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jami%27_al-tawarikh) written in the early 14th century.”

                  Amazing! Except most early writings on the mongols became primary sources. These writings demonize the Mongols and have been a rather common turn to by historians. There are a large amount of decenting voices against he mongols and do not praise their conquest.

                  “I did it. And I am fortunately able to understand accurate meanings in their proper context. I guess I should thank my own genetic background for that…”

                  I am not so sure about that “genetic background” as you have failed to look into your own quote form Churchill.

                  “Didn’t know that Wilhelm Hoettl and Adolf Eichmann, the alleged sources for the 6-million figure”

                  Glad to hear you actually read the transcript… I am also glad to see you have created a straw-man… I gave no mention to Eichmann, he is also a bureaucrat. Wilhelm Hoettel was a physician and according to wikipedia:

                  “A physician or medical doctor or just doctor is a professional who practices medicine, which is concerned with promoting, maintaining, or restoring health through the study, diagnosis, and treatment of …”

                  The guys is a doctor! His estimate is based of memory of records, Eichmann would know the number more precisely since he was around these documents every day, and sadly he was not caught till the early 60’s.

                  Might I also say that Wilhelm Hoettel also said the following:

                  “I must assume that the information Eichmann gave me was correct, since
                  of all the people who might come into consideration, he would have had the
                  best knowledge of the number of Jews murdered”

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 2, 2016 @ 10:19 pm

                • “https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/is-donald-trump-the-new-hitler/#comment-68603”

                  You do know that when you comment to someone with an account it alerts them right? You linked this for no reason at all.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 2, 2016 @ 10:26 pm

                • Furtherglory wrote: “Yes, it’s true. The Nazis did make human soap. ”

                  The Nazis didn’t make human soap. A kind of “soap” made of human fat arises as a natural byproduct during the process of reducing corpses for such purposes as obtaining bones to be used for educational purposes by medical students. You can find human “soap” in almost all the anatomy institutes in this world. There were similar institutes in the Soviet Union. The Soviets knew that they were lying when they brought a natural byproduct found at the Danzig Anatomy Institute at Nuremberg and claimed it was a soap made from the corpses of murdered Jews. They even claimed that they had found a giant factory where human bodies were turned into soap.

                  “The same base, rationalized SS technical minds which created gas chambers and murder vans, began devising such methods of complete annihilation of human bodies, which would not only conceal the traces of their crimes, but also to serve in the manufacturing of certain products. In the Danzig Anatomical Institute, semi-industrial experiments in the production of soap from human bodies and the tanning of human skin for industrial purposes were carried out.” – L. N. Smirnov, Chief Counselor of Justice for the USSR, Nuremberg IMT

                  Comment by hermie — August 1, 2016 @ 9:53 pm

                • If they had “Zest” soap back then,they would’ve only used it . Like the jingle says on the Zest commercial ,”Zestfully clean”.

                  Comment by Tim — August 2, 2016 @ 5:25 am

                • You wrote: “The Nazis didn’t make human soap. A kind of “soap” made of human fat arises as a natural byproduct during the process of reducing corpses for such purposes as obtaining bones to be used for educational purposes by medical students.”

                  I wrote about human soap on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/06/09/more-about-soap-made-from-jews-it-wouldnt-suds-and-it-wouldnt-foam/

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 2, 2016 @ 10:45 am

                • “The Nazis didn’t make human soap”

                  Read the link Hermie. I see no reason to continue arguing, and guess what! The source they link for their quote is the News! You know!

                  Might I also mention what the link says:

                  “It should be kept in mind that “the Nazis” didn’t manufacture human soap as a matter of policy. A rogue Nazi’s “accomplishments” do not tell us much about the Nazi policy in general. One can always turn the tables and accuse any “regime” of anything based on the actions of rogue elements.”

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/10/tests-show-that-nazis-used-human.html

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 2, 2016 @ 10:51 pm

                • You wrote about the Nazis making human soap. It is not easy to make soap.

                  I wrote about soap making on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/sing-right-out-for-grandmas-lye-soap/

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 3, 2016 @ 6:41 am

                • You say its “not easy to make soap.” So what? This doesn’t change anything.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 3, 2016 @ 8:47 pm

                • Click wrote: “Read the link Hermie. I see no reason to continue arguing”

                  The Danzig ‘soap’ is so patently the desperate reaction of liars caught with their pants down and just reluctant to admit they lied. A funny ‘Oops, we didn’t lie, we only got the scale of it wrong.’ Pathetic…

                  Was a report of those alleged “new laboratory tests” even published in a scientific journal?

                  Comment by hermie — August 3, 2016 @ 4:48 pm

                • *Yawn* As already explained hermie. Read the link.

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/10/tests-show-that-nazis-used-human.html

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 3, 2016 @ 9:13 pm

                • Stop wasting your time (and mine) with Pressac’s multi-debunked ‘criminal traces,’ Click. Never read the text of his final capitulation? Dinfestation units (with shower rooms and delousing gas chambers) were planned for the crematories of Birkenau. But the completion of the Central Sauna and the installation of 100 showers at the delousing barracks Bw 5a and 5b finally made such a sanitary measure needless. So the project was simply dropped. That’s why Pressac found no ‘criminal traces’ after March 1943. Pressac alleged ‘criminal traces’ are all perfectly explainable and explained by the need to combat typhus epidemics and by the related temporary project for the construction of emergency delousing facilities at Birkenau.

                  http://codoh.com/library/document/1713/

                  Comment by hermie — August 3, 2016 @ 6:07 pm

                • Pressac wasn’t debunked and you completely have just skipped over the fact you haven’t read his writing.

                  Faurisson’s retort to pressac is a complete joke, and Mattongo hardly even read his book.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 3, 2016 @ 9:16 pm

                • Click wrote: “*Yawn* As already explained hermie. Read the link.”

                  Neither the blog Holocaust controversies, nor a press report, is a scientific journal. You must be joking…

                  Comment by hermie — August 4, 2016 @ 9:17 am

                • As stated before, read the link. The article says whom did the testing. Aka: Institute for National Remembrance (poland)

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 8, 2016 @ 9:54 am

                • Click wrote: “As stated before, read the link. The article says whom did the testing. Aka: Institute for National Remembrance (poland)”

                  Institute for National Remembrance, the most objective/unbiased source on earth. Hahaha. 100% ridiculous.

                  Paper visibly not published in any scientific journal for a review by peers (otherwise you could find it and you would have posted on here). Thus non-science at its best once again. You lose…

                  Comment by hermie — August 11, 2016 @ 7:50 am

                • Lol Hermie you are trying to challenge a university on its methods.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 11, 2016 @ 4:14 pm

                • Click wrote: “Lol Hermie you are trying to challenge a university on its methods. ”

                  A state-sponsored propaganda institute, you rather mean. Universities publish their papers for the use and examination of their findings by other researchers. Can you provide this paper?

                  Comment by hermie — August 11, 2016 @ 5:52 pm

              • “Not Hitler’s fault that so many Marxist leaders were Jews and that you’re too dumb to understand a statement in its proper context.”…Confirmed. Definitely.”

                I stand corrected. You did give us information from Mein Kampf.

                Now please name the Marxist leaders along with proof they were Jews.

                BTW, I know the Sparticus Uprising was led by Jews. But you said Marxist leaders, what Marxist leaders are you specifically saying are Jews? Do you have proof?

                Comment by Jeff K. — July 27, 2016 @ 6:44 pm

                • What’s next? Show fire burns?

                  Stop wasting my time…

                  Comment by hermie — July 28, 2016 @ 5:58 pm

                • And again, nothing from Hermie.

                  No answers, just sliding away.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 28, 2016 @ 7:48 pm

                • Eh, it’s Hermie.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 7:58 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “And again, nothing from Hermie.”

                  The predominance of Jews among Marxist leaders everywhere is well known. I’ve other things to do than waste my time proving established facts to a gang of trolling reality deniers whose full-time job is to make me waste my time.

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 7:12 am

                • “The predominance of Jews among Marxist leaders everywhere is well known”

                  Actually, no it’s not.
                  That’s a fallacy, but, since your whole life is based on racism and anti-Semitism you wouldn’t know that.

                  “I’ve other things to do than waste my time proving established facts to a gang of trolling reality deniers whose full-time job is to make me waste my time.”

                  In other words, you have squat.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 29, 2016 @ 7:46 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Actually, no it’s not. That’s a fallacy”

                  What?!? You mean the Jew-owned West has pushed that down the memory hole? Wow! Very surprising…

                  Comment by hermie — July 29, 2016 @ 8:46 am

                • Read this, Hermie:

                  http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=25117

                  Now, once you are done, feel free to provide your own evidence to the contrary.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 29, 2016 @ 8:52 am

                • Ex-Jews, atheist Jews, waw! Impressive! The bloodsucking kikes of Communism are invisible now! Nice job, Jeff36.😉

                  Trick – i.e. Yes, Communism is/was led by Jews but those aren’t/weren’t real Jews and anti-Semitism is/was the cause of their involvement and leadership; so it’s OK – already used by Zio-puppet Winston Churchill in 1920 (‘Zionism vs. Bolshevism’) in order to protect his dear Jewish friends from the legitimate coming backlash that could be expected against the race leading the Jewish communist conspiracy in Europe and America. I don’t fall for that trick. Sorry.

                  And Stalinist purges are irrelevant in this debate since Mein Kampf was written in the mid-1920s.

                  Comment by hermie — July 30, 2016 @ 6:41 am

                • Jeff 36 gave real numbers for the amount of Jews in the Communist leadership, Hermie.

                  Don’t believe it?

                  Prove otherwise.

                  BTW, I am not Jeff 36. Different person.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 30, 2016 @ 8:41 am

                • You wrote: “What I want to see is the HoloHuxsters showing me how it happened in a mock up scenario….
                  Get on that roof in Krema 1 in auschwitz through those ZB pellets on the floor and lets see what happens.”

                  I have BEEN on the roof of the gas chamber in the main camp, and I say that the alleged gassing could not have happened the way that the Jews say that it did.

                  For one thing, the lids on the holes in the roof are not tight enough. The gas could have escaped and wafted over to the hospital where wounded SS men were fighting for their lives.

                  Also, why use FOUR holes, when only one opening would have been necessary?

                  Ask Fred Leuchter how the gas chambers SHOULD have been built.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 10:10 am

                • That was my whole point I bought up,with the people that supposedly dispensed the chemical. What was their AIT for this MOS? These folks are gonna have to know how to safely use these pellets. They gotta know what to do if the gas evades its intended route. What to do with accidental exposure. I don’t care what anyone says. This shit ain’t ” on the job training”. They ain’t gonna give a person a Xerox copy of the “dos and donts ” with this chemical. Shits too dangerous . That would be like somebody who can drive a truck,applying for a job to haul nuclear waste. They can drive a truck,but they don’t know shit about handling hazardous material. Same thing here. These are soldiers,but that don’t mean they know how to handle dangerous material like this.

                  Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 11:28 am

                • You wrote: “What was their AIT for this MOS?”

                  The Germans didn’t use military codes for their transit camps.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 11:36 am

                • Sorry for the confusion. My fault. I was referring to the soldiers. AIT “Advanced Individual Training”. I don’t remember exactly what MOS stood for. Military way of saying “the soldiers specialty”. Could be a Generals private cook or a missleer in the silos.

                  Comment by Tim — August 3, 2016 @ 2:50 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “Jeff 36 gave real numbers for the amount of Jews in the Communist leadership, Hermie.”

                  No surprise Jeff’s unsourced numbers met your ludicrous evidential standards…

                  Comment by hermie — July 31, 2016 @ 10:41 am

                • “Jeff wrote: “Jeff 36 gave real numbers for the amount of Jews in the Communist leadership, Hermie.”

                  “No surprise Jeff’s unsourced numbers met your ludicrous evidential standards…”

                  Prove him wrong. Let me see your evidence to the contrary.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — July 31, 2016 @ 12:33 pm

          • “Click wrote: “He did speak about gassing the Jews in Mein Kampf.”

            “Hitler didn’t speak about gassing the Jews in Mein Kampf. He spoke about sending the Marxist leaders and other war profiteers of Germany to the front-line, where poison gas had been used as a weapon, so that they could suffer from the war instead of benefiting from it as they had done. Not Hitler’s fault that so many Marxist leaders were Jews and that you’re too dumb to understand a statement in its proper context.”

            So, I went on-line and looked this up. You know, because, well, you couldn’t be bothered.
            Even though it was your point to make:

            “If at the outbreak and during the war, twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew nation-corruptors had been held under poison gas once, as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from all classes and callings had to endure on the battlefield, then the sacrifice of millions on the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary: twelve thousand scoundrels eliminated at the right time would perhaps have saved the lives of a million Germans who are more orderly and more valuable for the future.”

            So, what’s the key phrase?

            “If at the outbreak and during the war, twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew nation-corruptors had been held under poison gas once,”

            It doesn’t say, “Sent to the front lines and held under the gas…..”

            Now, I have two disclosures to make:

            1) I’m more of a Functionalist when it comes to the Holocaust. I think this is an example of Hitler rhetoric, nothing more. The Holocaust grew out of certain conditions at the time of war (though the Nazi Regime showed a definite genocidal bent with the T-4 and Action14f13 programs, Operation Tannenberg, the deliberate starvation and mistreatment of the Soviet POWs).
            2) I’ve never read Mein Kampf. I’ve read excerpts. It’s been on my to-do list but frankly political tracts bore me. I’ve told myself I need to read it and I will.

            Comment by Jeff K. — July 27, 2016 @ 6:39 pm

            • I am not arguing that the Holocaust wasn’t a Function of the war. There was way to much experimentation for it to be even considered Intentional… An example goes from Majdanek… the Germans originally only used Carbon Monoxide. The Germans at a later point (based off my best guess) smashed holes in the roof to make way to drop Zyklon into gas chambers 1 and 2.

              That is if the “Encyclopedia of the Third Reich” Is correct when they say.

              “At first death was induced by carbon monoxide asphyxiation, but later hydrocyanic, or prussic, acid fumes were used following successful tests at Belzec.”

              Ether way it still doesn’t change the fact in mein kampf Hitler in his own words said.

              “If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.”

              Nothing will change this.

              Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 28, 2016 @ 12:42 am

          • I know in the earlier part of Mein Kampf,Hitler really didn’t have a hateful attitude towards the Jews . It seemed more like a,”buyer beware” type attitude. The people that I’ve known to be full blown racist,started at an early age. Shit started at their house. You see pictures of babies where their parents have dressed them in their ,”KKK baby outfits”. I don’t see where that was the order of the day around Hitlers house. Hitler made the comment that very few Jews were in Linz. He said the ones that were there,became so Europeanized,that you wouldn’t know they were Jews . He said Vienna had about 200,000 Jews when he arrived there. He said he didn’t notice them,until he settled in. He said after he settled in,he gained a more discriminating view of his new world. Thats when he said he ran up against the ,”Jewish problem”. He said when he became acquainted with the Jews,it was not unpleasant. He mentioned he still saw a man of different religion,therefore on the grounds of human tolerance . I know Hitler mentioned he bought a few anti Semitic brochures. He said they were written in such a way,that a person would have a certain amount of knowledge on “the Jewish question”. Clearly,Hitler didn’t have the monopoly on attitudes towards the Jews . He said he became doubtful again,because the statements were superficial and the proof was unscientific . I haven’t read the entire book,but it doesn’t sound like Hitler that hateful of an attitude towards Jews . You got Klansmen and ABs who are ready to kill people just because their skin color or religious beliefs don’t fall in line with theirs. You’ve got Hitler giving in depth reasoning as to the direction he’s starting to go in with the Jews,but the Klan or ABs can’t give a valid reason why they hate races other than their own. The Jews jump up and down screaming about Mein Kampf,yet I’ve yet to hear them speak out against the “Turner Diaries”. If people want a book to worry about,that should be the one.

            Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 9:58 am

          • I can relate to Uncle Adolph on that one. We used to want to put the head honchos at Dow Chemical in the middle of a napalm run. We didn’t give a shit about the NVA or VC getting it during a strike. It was the little children that bothered us. The little 8 year old girl ( in the now famous photograph)that got badly burned in a napalm strike,was a drop in the bucket. There were plenty of other children dying that way. So I can see where Hitler was coming from on his comment.

            Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 6:32 pm

    • “He was a psychopath…”

      At first I wasn’t sure about this but based upon Hitler’s lack of empathy or remorse, his social awkwardness and his inability to connect closely with other people you may be correct on this. Certainly he was fully functional, much like Stalin or Mao. All three had the remorseless attitude of the ends justify any means to get there, in Hitler’s case war and expansion, in Stalin and Mao’s case the willingness to cause the death of millions to build the Communist Utopia.

      Nice to have you back, hope school is going well.

      Comment by Jeff K. — July 25, 2016 @ 10:19 am

      • The guy is literally a psychopath. During world war 1 he claimed to have been gassed, but according to Iain King this was just hysteria. Iain sites the book “Hitler’s First War” as his source for this claim.

        As for school, its alright.

        Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 25, 2016 @ 10:55 am

        • Click wrote: “The guy is literally a psychopath. During world war 1 he claimed to have been gassed, but according to Iain King this was just hysteria.”

          The numerous war neurotics of WW1 were not psychopaths. They were just soldiers hurt by that terrible war. Insulting to call those injured vets psychopaths.

          And there’s no document proving Hitler’s alleged hysterical blindness. Story solely based on the words [allegedly] told by an anti-Nazi German doctor (Dr. Edmund Forster) to a Jewish novelist (Ernst Weiss, author of Der Augenzeuge). In short, this specific claim is in fact based on ‘evidence’ meeting Holohoaxsters’ usual evidential standards…😉

          http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0004-282X2010000500032

          Comment by hermie — August 1, 2016 @ 8:52 pm

          • “The numerous war neurotics of WW1 were not psychopaths. They were just soldiers hurt by that terrible war. Insulting to call those injured vets psychopaths.”

            Mind how specific my comment is. I am referring to 1 person. Not the entire German army so way to start off with a strawman…

            I also said “according to Iain King”.

            There is the chance of Schizophrenia as well since he heard voices in his head.

            (Hitler, Adolf. Mein Kampf, 13th edition, 1933, P. 220–225.)

            “And there’s no document proving Hitler’s alleged hysterical blindness. Story solely based on the words [allegedly] told by an anti-Nazi German doctor (Dr. Edmund Forster) to a Jewish novelist (Ernst Weiss, author of Der Augenzeuge). In short, this specific claim is in fact based on ‘evidence’ meeting Holohoaxsters’ usual evidential standards…”

            Lol Just like the melting people at Dresden Hermie. Mind I can play the denial game to! Mind that eyewitnesses are accepted as evidence in all modern courts.

            He has also been diagnosed with other mental illnesses… The Smithsonian showed a documentary which talks about another mental illness, and they show what could be the evidence you demand…

            Its not really an idea I stick with, but who knows. Maybe it might work with you.

            Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 2, 2016 @ 10:45 pm

            • Click wrote: “Mind how specific my comment is. I am referring to 1 person. Not the entire German army so way to start off with a strawman…”

              You claimed that a war-linked hysterical blindness proves that a man is a psychopath. So you also said that war neurotics are psychopaths. No matter that you didn’t want to insult the war neurotics of WW1. You did.

              Click wrote: “I also said “according to Iain King”.”

              And King based his words on a novel. What does it say about your evidential standards and King’s ones?

              Click wrote: “There is the chance of Schizophrenia as well since he heard voices in his head.”

              According to?

              Click wrote: “Lol Just like the melting people at Dresden Hermie. Mind I can play the denial game to! ”

              You can. The shameful official death toll is almost denial anyway…

              Click wrote: “He has also been diagnosed with other mental illnesses… The Smithsonian showed a documentary which talks about another mental illness, and they show what could be the evidence you demand…”

              The Parkinson disease is not necessarily accompanied by mental disorders, especially in its early stages. And your video says his mind remained sharp to the end, so contradicting your point.

              Comment by hermie — August 3, 2016 @ 4:18 pm

              • “You claimed that a war-linked hysterical blindness proves that a man is a psychopath. So you also said that war neurotics are psychopaths. No matter that you didn’t want to insult the war neurotics of WW1. You did.”

                Except it doesn’t target others at all… Your spreading the point outside its bounds… Its not targeted at all soldiers, and it was only one single point, I have also mentioned plenty of times that Hitler has heard voices in his head.

                “And King based his words on a novel. What does it say about your evidential standards and King’s ones? ”

                It relies off the testimonial of the doctors and that Kurt von Schleicher held onto the medical papers “were so damning”. He gets this claim from Thomas Weber, and the book has gotten some praise. I sadly haven’t read “hitlers first war” but I have read his book “Secrets of the third reich” which was pretty good.

                “According to?”

                I gave you a portion of his own writings to read. Do I need to link it again? Hitler never claimed it but he did say he heard an inner voice.

                As for people whom claim it here is a small list.

                W. H. D. Vernon and Henry Murray

                http://web.archive.org/web/20110719182005/http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/WhatWeHave/SpecialCollections/Donovan/Hitler/upload/Hitler-Section2.pdf

                Wolfgang Treher in his book Hitler, Steiner, Schreber.

                Edleff Schwaab whom is a German-American clinical psychologist.

                Paul Matussek(psychiatrist), Peter Matussek(media theorist), and Jan Marbach(sociologist) did as well in their book Hitler – Karriere eines Wahns.

                A research team at the University of Colorado also did a study on hitler coming to this conclusions.

                http://www.uccs.edu/Documents/dsegal/DSM-Assessment-of-Hitler-IDR-2007.pdf

                “You can. The shameful official death toll is almost denial anyway…”

                Except its not, the number is based on the Germans own estimate. Irvings TB-47 document was completely forged. Its rather clear that the Nazi estimate of between 200,000 to 500,000 is pure propaganda.

                http://www.dresden.de/media/pdf/infoblaetter/Historikerkommission_Dresden1945_Abschlussbericht_V1_14a.pdf

                “The Parkinson disease is not necessarily accompanied by mental disorders, especially in its early stages. And your video says his mind remained sharp to the end, so contradicting your point.”

                Its not really my point at all, as already mentioned its not an idea I subscribe to.

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — August 3, 2016 @ 9:11 pm

                • Click wrote: “Except it doesn’t target others at all… Your spreading the point outside its bounds… Its not targeted at all soldiers,”

                  If you base your almost entire argument on your claim that war-related hysterical blindness (a war neurosis) proves somebody is a psychopath, you cannot say that you’re not talking about the other people with that trauma are not psychopaths. That’s anti-science.

                  Click wrote: “and it was only one single point, I have also mentioned plenty of times that Hitler has heard voices in his head.”

                  Yes, you mentioned that plenty of times, but you failed to prove your claim even once.

                  Click wrote: “It relies off the testimonial of the doctors and that Kurt von Schleicher held onto the medical papers “were so damning”. He gets this claim from Thomas Weber, and the book has gotten some praise. I sadly haven’t read “hitlers first war” but I have read his book “Secrets of the third reich” which was pretty good.”

                  Mere rehash of Ernst Weiss’ novel. Testimonial ‘evidence’ is evidence only in churches and ufology conferences.

                  Click wrote: “I gave you a portion of his own writings to read. Do I need to link it again? Hitler never claimed it but he did say he heard an inner voice.”

                  Inner voice is no hallucination. Inner voice, also known as internal monologue or verbal stream of consciousness, is a type of thought process (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_monologue). Roughly it consists in thinking in words. Do you never talk to yourself when thinking about something?

                  Click wrote: “As for people whom claim it here is a small list. W. H. D. Vernon and Henry Murray http://web.archive.org/web/20110719182005/http://library.lawschool.cornell.edu/WhatWeHave/SpecialCollections/Donovan/Hitler/upload/Hitler-Section2.pdf

                  Strasser? Rauschning? Wow! Impressive sources. But unfortunately debunked a long time ago.

                  Click wrote: “Wolfgang Treher in his book Hitler, Steiner, Schreber. Edleff Schwaab whom is a German-American clinical psychologist. Paul Matussek(psychiatrist), Peter Matussek(media theorist), and Jan Marbach(sociologist) did as well in their book Hitler – Karriere eines Wahns.”

                  So many guys and not a single scientist in the batch. Sociologists, psychiatrists, media theorists… C’mon. What’s next? Shamans? Seers? Astrologers? The Pope practicing an exorcism from a distance (don’t laugh; he really did it)?

                  Click wrote: “A research team at the University of Colorado also did a study on hitler coming to this conclusions. http://www.uccs.edu/Documents/dsegal/DSM-Assessment-of-Hitler-IDR-2007.pdf

                  Psychoanalysis is pseudo-science and psychoanalysis based on erroneous data is even more laughable than usual psychoanalysis. What a ridiculous fraud!

                  Click wrote: “Except its not, the number is based on the Germans own estimate. Irvings TB-47 document was completely forged. Its rather clear that the Nazi estimate of between 200,000 to 500,000 is pure propaganda.”

                  The official death toll is based on a downplayed counting (35,000 –> 25,000) of the victims the German authorities were able to identify and name, i.e. a tiny fraction of all the victims in the event of a firebombing of such a magnitude. Most victims of such a thing are burnt beyond recognition. In fact, Eberhard Matthes, a lieutenant colonel and General Staff Officer in Dresden at the time of the bombing, was one of those responsible for determining the number of victims. According to his data 35,000 corpses were “totally identified”, 50,000 were “partially identified” and 168,000 corpses “could no longer be identified.” In total Matthes counted 253,000 dead. And the corpses of numerous additional victims were found in the following years and decades.

                  [quote]Stars & Stripes
                  London Edition, Saturday, May 5, 1945, Vol. 5, No. 156
                  Air Raid on Dresden Killed More Than 300,000
                  by Dan Regan
                  Stars and Stripes Staff Writer

                  With the 1st Army, May 3 (Delayed) — The Allied air raid on Dresden on Feb. 13-14 killed 300,000 persons, according to a report by Dresden police to a group of 600 — British and French — prisoners who were given passes by the Germans to enter the American lines.

                  Nine British PWs were working in Dresden during the raid and said the horror and devastation caused by the Anglo-American 14-hour raid was beyond human comprehension unless one could see for himself.

                  One British sergeant said,

                  “Reports from Dresden police that 300,000 died as a result of the bombing didn’t include deaths among 1,000,000 evacuees from the Breslau area trying to escape from the Russians. There were no records on them.

                  “After seeing the results of the bombing, I believe these figures are correct.”[/quote]

                  Click wrote: “http://www.dresden.de/media/pdf/infoblaetter/Historikerkommission_Dresden1945_Abschlussbericht_V1_14a.pdf”

                  Real Holocaust deniers…

                  Click wrote: ‘Its not really my point at all, as already mentioned its not an idea I subscribe to.”

                  So why did you post a video about Hitler’s Parkinson disease (nothing new; nobody ignores that) when trying to prove he was a psychopath?

                  Comment by hermie — August 4, 2016 @ 9:00 am


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