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July 28, 2016

the story of Reinhard Gehlen

Filed under: Germany, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 8:56 am

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One of the regular readers of my blog mentioned the name Reinhard Gehlen, who is shown in the photo above, in this comment:

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I did have that one ol boy that popped up with the results I got for Gehiem. This dudes name was Reinhard Gehlen. I don’t trust ol Reinhard. There’s something shady about him.”

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Reinhard Gehlen has gotten a bad rap because he was a traitor; he left Germany before World War II was over and came to America where he joined the side of the enemy.

Here is the story on Reinhard Gehlen:

In 1943, the Allied powers had already started making plans for their occupation of Germany after the war, which by that time they anticipated winning.

There were major conferences at Teheran, Moscow and Yalta in 1943 and 1944 where resolutions were passed regarding the means necessary to secure the occupation.

On August 2, 1945, these resolutions were confirmed and the details were planned at the Potsdam Conference, held in a suburb of Berlin. By that time, Roosevelt was dead, and President Harry Truman was the one making the decisions at the Potsdam conference, along with Churchill and Stalin. For the first time, France was also included as the fourth victorious power.

According to the Potsdam Agreement, the officials of the Nazi party and its organizations, members of the Gestapo, and anyone who might endanger the goals of the occupation were to be interned in concentration camps. Not included were Nazis who might be of use to America, like General Reinhard von Gehlen, the chief of the Nazi spy organization, and Werner von Braun, the head of Germany’s V-2 rocket program.

The former Nazi concentration camps at Dachau, Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen were to be converted into internment camps for German political prisoners, while thousands of Nazi scientists were to be taken to America and the Soviet Union.

General Reinhard von Gehlen was sneaked into the United States wearing an American uniform, even before the German surrender, and became part of the new American intelligence agency, called the CIA, after the war.

In the first half of 1945, approximately 6,000 German Army officers were released by the Western Allies, but were then arrested by the Soviets and held in Zone II at Sachsenhausen. Later the Zone II barracks were filled with German prisoners who had been sentenced by a Soviet military tribunal to 15 years of hard labor. Until 1950, a large number of German citizens were imprisoned by the Soviet Union and forced to perform slave labor in the gulags of Siberia.

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Many years ago, I attended a lecture given by David Irving. At the beginning of his talk, Irving asked: “Who knows anything about  Reinhard Gehlen?” I held up my hand: “I do, I do.”

Irving was amazed at this. At that time, he had a reputation for thinking that all women were stupid.

He didn’t ask me how I knew the name Reinhard Gehlen, so I was not able to tell him that I had learned about Gehlen when I visited the memorial site at the Sachsenhausen concentration camp, where German prisoners were held after the end of World War II.

At the Sachsenhausen memorial site, I picked up a pamphlet which had the following information:
“The history of the Special Camp of the Soviet Secret Service (NKVD) in Germany must be viewed in light of the circumstances and events of World War II as well as the Soviet camp system (Gulag).”

The Information Leaflet explained the reason for the camp, from the Communist winner’s point of view.

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The Second World War which the German Reich began in 1939, and the genocide which the Nazis pursued against Jew, Sinti and Roma, and other groups who had been declared racially inferior by the regime, caused widespread misery and destruction of unknown proportions for that time throughout Europe until the end of the war in spring 1945.

In spite of the impossibility of winning the world war, which since 1943 had been pursued as a “total war,” up to the end the political and military leadership of the “Third Reich” was not prepared to capitulate.

The Allies had to militarily overpower National Socialist Germany costing them great losses. Moreover, the propaganda of the Nazi regime conveyed the impression that after Germany was occupied, the National Socialist would continue their struggle against the allied troops with the “Werewolf” organization.

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According to the same Information Leaflet available at the Sachsenhausen Memorial Site, conditions in Special Camp No. 7 were deplorable, as the following quote explains.

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Hunger and cold prevailed in the Special Camp. The inadequate hygienic and sanitary conditions and the insufficient nourishment led to disease and epidemics. Usually the barracks were overcrowded; the prisoners had to sleep on the bare wood frames until 1947, when the Soviet camp administration distributed blankets and bags of straw.

The only clothing which the prisoners had during their imprisonment was what they were wearing at the time of their arrest. The possession of personal items, particularly books and writing material was strictly forbidden.

Violations of these rigid camp regulations, which were for the most part unknown to most of the prisoners, resulted in harsh punishment imposed by the Soviet guard personnel or the German prisoners who held special functions.

Unlike the camps in the Soviet Union, the special camps were not work camps. The prisoners suffered much more from forced idleness. This is why the assignment to one of the few work commandos serving the camp’s self-sufficiency was regarded as a privilege.

The prisoners attempted to at least temporarily escape the monotony of their daily routine in the camps by participating in any activities. Most of them [activities] were prohibited, such as lectures, lessons, singing and improving the appearance of the barracks. Only after the first order for releases in 1948 were the conditions alleviated somewhat by the allowance of board games, sports, and occasionally newspapers and radio reports.

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Several of the brick barracks in Zone II were open to visitors, when I toured the Sachsenhausen Memorial Site.  Inside were TV monitors where one could see videos of interviews with the survivors, who told about the horrendous conditions in the prison.

According to one survivor, the windows of the barracks were blocked out so that the prisoners were kept in almost total darkness. They had to sleep on bare boards with no mattresses and were furnished with only a block of wood for a pillow.

End of story

37 Comments »

  1. I’ve defended Mark Fuhrman too. He did his job and did it well. The media AGAIN spins his involvement regarding the investigation in the OJ Simpson trial as heinous and criminal. To believe he did anything else AGAIN means you have bought the media spin from your handlers.

    Comment by Diane King — August 1, 2016 @ 1:36 pm

  2. Click, you’ve proven Jim’s point when THE ONLY thing you can utter is derision, name calling and profanity. In making HIS point, you affirm ours as well. So thanks for that! And baseless claims? You exemplify the present day ‘college’ curriculum of GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE out. You are merely a tool of the PC machine. So in that vein, you are a success for your handlers.

    Comment by Diane King — August 1, 2016 @ 1:33 pm

    • Again for Click…..
      When and honest man/woman honestly mistaken, comes face to face with undeniable and irrefutable truth, he/she is faced with one of two choices, he/she must either cease being mistaken or cease being honest.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — August 1, 2016 @ 2:00 pm

  3. No portable heater, huh! No ventilation! Interesting as those were things NEVER mentioned until the revisionists described the ONLY way to activate ZYKLON B in ANY way is with good ventilation and a heater. NOW the hoaxter narrative ‘uses’ these findings. SORRY, WEREN’T THERE because there was no extermination. And I venture to say if the National Socialists had it to do ALL over again, they’d dispense with the camps altogether and BUILD THE DAMN SYNTHETIC FUELS THEMSELVES (to coin an adage about picking cotton). Suffice it to say, sustaining prisoners over-represented by jews? WHO NEEDS THE HEADACHE (Kopfweh) OY-VEY!.

    Comment by Diane King — July 30, 2016 @ 1:14 pm

  4. FG writes:- ” According to the Potsdam Agreement, the officials of the Nazi party and its organizations, members of the Gestapo, and anyone who might endanger the goals of the occupation were to be interned in concentration camps. Not included were Nazis who might be of use to America, like General Reinhard von Gehlen, the chief of the Nazi spy organization, and Werner von Braun, the head of Germany’s V-2 rocket program.

    The former Nazi concentration camps at Dachau, Buchenwald and Sachsenhausen were to be converted into internment camps for German political prisoners, while thousands of Nazi scientists were to be taken to America and the Soviet Union.

    General Reinhard von Gehlen was sneaked into the United States wearing an American uniform, even before the German surrender, and became part of the new American intelligence agency, called the CIA, after the war. ”

    So, even before WW2 ended, the Allies were busily organising their post-war plans, and were already choosing which of the former enemy personnel were going to be useful to them. Some were going to be given new employment as operatives in the proposed vastly expanded world of intelligence and security; while others were destined for prestigious positions in the world of science, technology and military development. Meanwhile, other people had already been selected to be charged with horrendous war crimes and false accusations of mass murder. All the remainder were simply going to be herded into internment camps, where they could not interfere or influence the proposals and schemes of the Occupying Powers .

    In other words, modern war is just a crude game to the elites and their paid underlings. While they cynically manipulate the situation to their own advantage, their soldiers, sailors and airmen – let alone countless numbers of innocent civilians – pay with their lives. They even coldly calculate in advance how they can demonise the enemy populations after the war is over, and, just as importantly, how to justify the massive, and terribly destructive war to their own publics.

    Thus, their plans include a huge propaganda campaign which presents the Allied nations as civilised and enlightened champions of liberty and righteousness – while the former enemy is depicted with all the negative attributes that one can possibly imagine. We, the general public, are regarded as credulous and easy to manipulate, and are given fabricated and exaggerated horror stories to digest. Highly publicised show trials, crackpot tribunals, fabricated witness testimony, fake documents, and false statements from intimidated and badly beaten-up enemy personnel – are the order of the day to satisfy the ordinary man and woman in the street.

    Unfortunately, even today – over 70 years later – much of the world’s population is still bamboozled by all this carefully crafted tomfoolery that took place way back then.

    Comment by Talbot — July 29, 2016 @ 7:04 am

  5. As with any German survivor of Allied atrocities, he was caught up in the massive abusive, murderous plans of the Allies, whether it was to exploit their skills like they did with the scientists or try to extract greater mortality among the vanquished (Eisenhower camp and their type) among other hostile and inhuman intents and practices. Another instance where WE in the US of A (you know, land of the free, home of the brave) OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF OURSELVES. I know I am and I wasn’t even alive then.

    Comment by Diane King — July 28, 2016 @ 9:31 am

  6. And the Jews think they had it so bad….The Germans suffered way more.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — July 28, 2016 @ 9:14 am

    • The Germans are STILL suffering way more than the Jews and are suffering because OF the Jews — we all are, but they longer.

      Comment by Diane King — July 28, 2016 @ 9:53 am

      • I know this is unrelated to the topic but felt people should read this…..
        This is way before the HoloHuxsters book writers got their greedy fingers into the lies and distortions of the HoloHoax.
        This is also why you don’t see information like this published anywhere….
        When you go back to the beginning you see things in a more purer form without all the lies being added later
        by those who had to change the narrative to fit the Jewish version that had to take final say later.

        I’m reading the booklet 127 pages, The Drama Of The European Jews by Paul Rassinier, It was originally written in 1964 in French translated to English in 1975 first printing. What makes this copy unique is the forward, it was done by Michael Hardesty. Very rare to find a copy with his forward in it…in fact I’ve have not been able to find one anywhere. If you do and I can download it or copy it let me know. Well any way….I have the forward here which is worth a booklet all by itself for the information that it contains.
        Had to scan it make a pdf of it then copy the text to computer and then take out all the scan errors and here we are. The forward is only eight pages, short and sweet, but a lot for a forward of a small booklet.
        I think it’s a Gem for true facts exposing the Holohoax…
        Special thanks to Diane King my HoloHoax assistant for all the work she did editing it. She’s my video editor too on special projects
        Enjoy….

        The Drama Of The European Jews by Paul Rassinier

        FOREWORD
        By Michael Hadesty

        Paul Rassinier was a French.Professor of history and geography who devoted the last twenty years of his life to a systematic study of one of the most crucial, controversial aspects of World War II history: the atrocity question. More specifically the study of the claim that the German National Socialist government deliberately exterminated European Jewry to the full extent it was able to do so before the so-called ‘Liberation’.

        From 1933 to 1943, Rassinier was a professor of history in the College d’ enseignement general at Belfort, Academie de Besancon. During the war he engaged in non-violent resistance activity until he was arrested by the Gestapo on October 30, 1943, and as a result was confined in the German concentration camps at Buchenwald and Dora until 1945. At Buchenwald, towards the latter part of the war, he contracted a species of typhus, which so damaged his health that he could not resume his teaching. After the war, Rassinier was awarded the Medaille de la Resistance and the Recoruraisance Francaise. He was elected to the French Chamber of Deputies but was subsequently ousted by the machinations of the French Communist Party in November 1946. At the age of 16, in 1922, Rassinier was very briefly drawn into the Communist Party by the anarchist, Victor Serge. Because he was a confirmed, total pacifist he was expelled from the Party. After various attempts at unifying the worker movement along the political”lines of Souvarine, and the trade union projects of Pierre Monatte, he joined the Socialist Party on the evening of February 6, 1934. Secretary of the Socialist Union of Belfort, he attempted to popularize the pacifist viewpoints of Felicien Challaye, Rene Gerin, Madeleine Vernet, and Louis Lecoin. He was a Resistant from the first hour of the German Occupation and was one of the founders of the ‘Libe-Nord’ movement. He tried to inculcate into Resistance movements his non-violent, pacifist philosophy. He was as a result condemned to death by the Communist faction of the Resistance and received the customary coffin effigy warning.

        A few remarks here concerning the general importance of a revisionist study of the Second World War and the interrelated atrocity question would be in order. Only the alleged urgency of the Hitler menace and the alleged extent of Hitler’s guilt could even begin to justify the enormous losses and the horrible consequences of the war. Fifty million lives lost, twenty-five trillion dollars spent, half of Europe under Communist rule, China under Communist rule, vast increases in taxation, government economic controls and the national debt, militarism as a permanent way of life, the expenditure of one and one-half trillion dollars since 1946 on ‘national defense’ to contain our former ‘Allies’- the Communists, a foreign aid program of close to two hundred billion dollars to allegedly ‘contain’ Communism since the end of the war, the growth of various, vicious little ‘national liberation’ movements around the world seeking to impose their ugly little brand of Marxist totalitarianism on various countries, a massive American interventionism, meddling and economic imperialism to allegedly contain those same movements, a growing world-wide economic crisis, galloping inflation, the total collapse of Great Britain as a world power, the cutting of Germany in two, the increasingly widespread proliferation of nuclear arms, the enormous growth of racism world-wide and the undeniable fact that the overwhelming majority of mankind today live under various dictatorships of one brand or another.

        Some of the Allies (‘Good Guy) atrocities include: The Katyn Massacre of Polish officers and intellectuals (the entire Polish officer corps) in early 1940, the expulsion of about fifteen million Germans from their former homes in areas that had been under their control for over 800 years, and the subsequent death of four to six million German nationals in the process, the English initiation of civilian saturation bombing in May 1940, the militarily unjustified atom-bombing of the Japanese cities (planned by Roosevelt), the forcible repatriation of several million Russian nationals back to the U.S.S.R. via ‘Operation Keelhaul’ in 1944-1947, the insane, Communist inspired ‘Morgenthau Plan’ which envisioned turning over industrial Germany into a pastoral land and contemplated with equanimity the probable death of thirty million Germans in the process and which was to a partial extent enacted under JCS 1067 by the Allied Occupation Forces in Germany after the war. In addition the absurd ‘unconditional surrender program should be singled out for special condemnation as a particularly vicious Allied war atrocity, because it completely aborted the possibility of a negotiated peace in 1943, demoralized the anti-Hitler opposition in Germany and caused several million needless deaths. The slogans and so-called ‘principles’ of the ‘Atlantic Charter’ and the ‘Four Freedoms’ were not even proposed in good faith, much less was any effort made to implement them into reality.

        All these and many more Allied atrocities have been overlooked, ignored, white-washed and obscured by the alleged extermination of several million Jews by the Nazis during the war. The figures have never been very precise on this alleged atrocity – they have ranged from forty million to twenty-five million to nine million to two million by supposedly reputable historians. The commonly cited figure is six million but the historians who have used this figure all come to it by different routes and the discrepancies such as pertain to several countries such as Hungary, Poland, Russia, Czechoslovakia are startling to say the least.

        The German National Socialist policy relative to the Jews was one that favored emigration, not extermination. The government of Adolf Hitler considered the Jewish Community in Germany to be a disloyal and avaricious element. The relatively high percentage of Communists and leftist revolutionaries who were of Jewish background tended to be translated by the Nazis into the idea that a high percentage of Jews, as such were Communists. This is of course an altogether different proposition and it is not any intention of this writer to defend it. The key factor here is, that believing of the Jews as they did, the Nazis’ solution to the problem was to deprive them of their influence within the nation by various legislative acts, and to encourage their emigration from the country altogether. By 1939, the great majority of the German Jews had emigrated with a sizable proportion of their assets.

        However, there was a very determined effort made by liberal-leftists, Communists and some Jewish sources to attempt to obliterate the difference in the two concepts of emigration and extermination. Lion Feuchtwanger, Hans Beimler and other assorted German emigres, produced several works along this theme in which the emigration policy and the various legislative acts were being equated with actual physical extermination. The various concentration camps in Germany at that time never held more than 21,000 persons, of which the Jewish total was about 3,000. The camps were principally used for the detention of political opponents, certain types of hard-core criminals, and so-called subversives, principally Communists and Marxist Social Democrats. Compared to the camps in the Soviet Union which held many millions of persons, they were very small. The Nazi approach to Jewish emigration was not merely a negative policy of expulsion but was a more positive approach along the lines of modern Zionism. The founder of the Zionist movement in the late nineteenth century, Theodore Herzl, in his work THE JEWISH STATE had postulated the East African island of Madagascar as a national homeland for the Jews, and this idea was seriously studied by the Nazis. The Nazis in fact advocated this in one of their pamphlets, and believed Madagascar was a much more acceptable homeland than the revival of ‘Israel’ as a Jewish state in the heart of the Arab World. The Polish and the French governments were agreeable to the Madagascar idea but it was torpedoed by the British government’s refusal to accept the financial terms put forward by the German government.

        A Polish Jewish refugee in England, Professor Rafael Lemkin, was the first to make charges of ‘mass extermination’ in his 1943 wartime book, AXIS RULE IN OCCUPIED EUROPE. Lemkin was the first author to state that the Nazis were exterminating millions of Jews in ‘gas chambers.’ He claimed that the Nazis had exterminated possibly as many as six million Jews. This, in 1943, would indeed have been remarkable, since the action was allegedly started only in the summer of 1942. At that rate, the entire world Jewish population would have been exterminated by 1945. After the war, even more fantastic nonsense was spread via the world propaganda media.

        Kurt Gerstein, an anti-Nazi who claimed to have infiltrated the S.S., told the French interrogator Raymond Cartier that he knew that no less than forty million concentration camp inmates had been ‘gassed.’ He later reduced the figure to twenty-five million and then again reduced it to the six million figure desired by the French Prosecutor Dubost at the so-called ‘Nuremberg Trials.’ Gerstein claimed to have witnessed the most fantastic ‘mass execution’ at camps where it is now even acknowledged by official Jewish sources, such as the Jewish Agency in Tel Aviv, that no ‘gas chambers’ were located there. He even describes a visit by Hitler to a concentration camp in Poland on June 6, 1942 which is known never to have taken place. The Tribunal at Nuremberg even refused to admit this impossible forgery into evidence at the ‘Trials.’ It was-the world press which was responsible for publicizing, this fraud and giving it an air of ‘authenticity.’

        Another so-called ‘witness’ was a Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl, a former assistant of Adolf Eichmann, who in fact was an agent in the service of American Intelligence (OSS) and who had written several books under the pseudonym of Walter Higen. Hoettl also worked for Soviet Intelligence, collaborating with two Jewish emigrants from Vienna, Perger and Verber, who acted as U.S. officers during the pre-trial inquiries of the Nuremberg Tribunal. The highly dubious testimony of Hoettl is said to constitute the only ‘proof’ regarding the alleged murder of six million Jews. In his affidavit of November 26, 1945 he stated that he did not know of the murders firsthand, but that Eichmann allegedly ‘told him’ in August 1944 in Budapest. Since Hoettl was working as an American spy during the latter period of the war, it is very strange indeed that he never informed his American superiors of such a monstrous plot. It needs to be particularly emphasized that there is not a single document in existence which proves that the Germans ever intended to, or carried out, the deliberate murder of Jews. In the flood of atrocity books by various ‘authorities’ such as Reitlinger, Poliakov, Arendt, Hilberg, etc., which have appeared since the war the most that these ‘experts’ can assemble are statements after the war extracted under physical and psychological torture from people such as Hoettl, Gerstein, Ohlendorf, and Wisliceny. Therefore, in the absence of any real, concrete, factual, provable evidence, Poliakov writes: ‘The three or four people chiefly involved in drawing up the plan for total extermination are dead and no documents survive. All of this is very convenient for the liberal intellectual establishment perpetrating this legend, but it only means that ‘the plan ‘and the ‘three or four’ people are nothing but very nebulous assumptions on the part of all of these writers, and are completely improbable. Since the documents which do survive make no mention whatsoever of extermination, the various ‘experts’ perpetuating the myth conveniently assume that such orders were generally verbal.

        Otto Ohlendorf, chief of the Einsatzgruppen D unit in southern Russia had originally been ‘persuaded’ to sign a statement to the effect that 90,000 Jews had been murdered under his command. When Ohlendorf finally came to trial in 1946, he insisted that his earlier statement had been extorted from him by torture. During his speech in his own behalf at the 1948 trial, Ohlendorf denounced Mr. Philip Auerbach, the Jewish Attorney-General of the Bavarian State Office for Restitution, for having recently stated that he was seeking compensation for an alleged ,eleven million Jews’ who had suffered in concentration camps. Ohlendorf stated that ‘not the minutest part’of the people for whom Auerbach was seeking compensation had ever seen a concentration camp. Eventually Auerbach was convicted for embezzlement and fraud directly related to his attempt to get money for his phantom victims. Ohlendorf told the Tribunal that his formations often had to take vigorous action to prevent pogroms against Jews organized by various Russian nationalities behind the German front. He denied that the Einsatzgruppen as a whole inflicted even one quarter of the alleged 1,000,000 casualties claimed by the prosecution. He stated that the illegal (under international law) partisan warfare in Russia, which the Einsatzgruppen were combating had taken a far higher toll of German army lives – at least 500,000 Germans were killed, a figure confirmed by the Soviet government. Since any Russian civilian who maintained his civilian status instead of acting as a terrorist or franc tireur was liable to be executed by the Soviets as a ‘traitor,’ it was virtually impossible on the whole Russian Front to draw any clear cut, proper distinction between the ‘civilian population’ and the terrorists. This, of course, is one of the basic purposes of the Communists’ ‘civilian guerrilla warfare’ program used throughout the world with much success, and in Indo-China in particular most recently. While various ivory tower theorists living in a virtual cloud- cuckoo land refer, to the ‘beautiful Peoples’ Wars,’ in actual reality the civilian, guerrilla type of warfare is the most vicious, cowardly, bloody, brutal and un heroic brand of warfare know to mankind. This was the type of warfare German uniformed soldiers had to fight, and that is why Ohlendorf in a written appeal before his execution in 1951, accused the Allies of utter hypocrisy in holding the Germans to account to conventional laws of warfare when they (Germany) had to fight a very savage, ferocious Soviet enemy who did not respect those laws. The brilliant English jurist, R. T Paget, in his book, MANSTEIN, HIS CAMPAIGN AND HIS TRIAL (London 1951), concluded that the Allied prosecution in accepting Soviet figures, had exaggerated the number of casualties inflicted by the Einsatzgruppen by more than 1000% and in addition that they (Allied side) distorted much further the actual situation in which these casualties were generally inflicted. This is a key point in the whole extermination legend because it is the popular mythology that the physical liquidation of European Jewry began with the action of the Einsatzgruppen against their Soviet adversaries in 1941. The whole extermination legend was built on just such bits and pieces of calculated falsehood.

        The trial of Oswald Pohl was another instance of Allied utter hypocrisy. For eleven years, Pohl was the principal administrative chief of the entire S.S. in his capacity as head of the S.S. Economy and Administration Office, which after 1941 was concerned with the industrial productivity of the concentration camp system. The highlight of hypocrisy was reached at the Trial when the prosecution said to Pohl ,’that had Germany rested with the exclusion of Jews from her own territory, with denying them German citizenship with excluding them from public office, or any like domestic regulation; no other nation could have been heard to complain.’

        Of course in point of fact Germany was bombarded with invective and economic sanctions for doing precisely these things, and her internal measures against the Jews were certainly a very crucial pre-War propaganda cause celebre by the factions in the ‘democracies’ which eventually steered their respective countries into war against her. Senator Joseph R. McCarthy (R. Wisconsin) pointed out that Pohl had signed some incriminating statements after being subjected to severe torture, including a bogus admission that he had seen a gas chamber at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944. Pohl successfully repudiated this particular charge. Eventually enough firsthand reports were brought forward by American and British observers after the war which established the complete fraudulence of the reports concerning alleged ‘gas chambers’ in the various camps in Germany such as Dachau, Buchenwald, Bergen-Belseh, Ravensbrueck, Sachsenhausen, Flossenburg, Theresienstadt, Gross-Rosen, Mauthausen, Neuengamme and Natzweiler. Consequently the supporters of the extermination legend shifted their focus of these allegations to the eastern camps in what then became Communist Poland. The Jewish historian Gerald Reitlinger admits that all the ‘information’ concerning Auschwitz and the other eastern camps comes from the post-war Communist regimes of eastern Europe (see his THE FINAL SOLUTION, p. 631). However, no living authentic eyewitness of any of these ‘gassings’ has ever been produced and affirmed. These ‘gassings’ were alleged to have occurred between March 1942 and October 1944, supposedly taking some three million lives in the process. This would have been equivalent to exterminating 3,350 people every day, day and night, literally non-stop, for over two and one-half years. Considering the acute wartime manpower shortages in German-occupied Europe and the enormous logistical problem that would be involved in such an undertaking the claims of mass extermination appear to be wild fantasy. Rassinier shows that the Germans had nowhere near the actual train capacity to haul the vast, enormous numbers claimed by the perpetrators of the extermination legend. It took at least 25-30 train cars to haul 3,000 people, and this included a tremendous expense in armed security and personnel to guard the trains. As a fair sample of some of the utter nonsense being served up to the world public, Olga Lengyel’s FIVE CHIMNEYS (London 1959) is a representative case. She asserts that at Auschwitz the ovens cremated no less than ‘720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift.’ She also claimed that 8,000 people were burned every day in the ‘death-pits’ and therefore ‘in round numbers, about 24’000 corpses were handled every day’ (p. 80-81). This would have meant a death rate of over twenty-one million people(!) – six million more than the entire world Jewish population. No comment is necessary here.

        One point that was recently brought home to the author of this foreword illustrates that many people have no conception of what is even meant by ‘gas chambers’ and confuse them with crematoriums. Cremation is an old and widely accepted method of disposal of the dead in Germany and other European countries. Naturally in a concentration camp that contained several thousand or hundred thousand persons, there would necessarily have to be some efficient practical method of the disposal of the dead. Due to the Allied bombing, the overcrowding and the rapidly declining economic situation in Central Europe the last two years of the war there occurred a far higher than normal mortality rate. This would be reflected in any honest concentration camp statistics. I was recently talking with a very prominent conservative author of English origin, who had served with the R’A’F. during the war. This gentleman was at first quite insistent that there were ‘gas chambers’ at Buchenwald, he ‘had seen them with his own eyes’ etc. I pointed out that Rassinier thoroughly exploded the Buchenwald gas chamber fallacy in David Rousset’s work, THE OTHER KINGDOM, and that even the Jewish Agency in Tel Aviv flatly stated several years ago that there were no gas chambers in Buchenwald or Dachau. This individual was taken aback by this information, and then he conceded that he saw crematoriums, not ‘gas chambers. He honestly believe that he did not think there was a difference until it was pointed out to him.

        Although according to popular mythology anywhere from three to five million persons were supposed to have been killed at Auschwitz, alone (which figure makes up the major part of the so-called ‘six million died’ legend), Reitlinger, admitted that 363,000 persons were registered at Auschwitz alone from January 1940 to February 1945. Of course, a large percentage were not Jews, either. It is thus claimed by the proponents of popular mythology that many people were not registered. But this has in no manner been. proven. Assuming that there were as many unregistered as registered individuals, it would still total around 750,000 persons, nowhere near one million, let alone three or four million. 80,000 prisoners at Auschwitz were evacuated westward in January 1945 before the Russian advance, large numbers of the Auschwitz camp population were released or transported elsewhere during the war years’ and at least 150,000 were still alive in Auschwitz camp at the time of the Russian ‘Liberation.’At Auschwitz today visitors are shown a small furnace which is said to be a ‘faithful replica’ of *he same type of furnace where millions, of people were killed.

        The book, COMMANDANT OF AUSCHWITZ, by Rudolf Hoess (London 1960) is replete with the most glaring contradictions and fabrications. Hoess, who took over as commandant of Auschwitz in 1940, was first arrested by the British at the end of the war but was then handed over to the Polish Communist authorities who condemned him to death in 1947 after a mock trial. The Communists claim that they ordered Hoess to write his memoirs in pencil and that they have the hand written ‘original’ somewhere. Of course no one has ever seen ‘where’! Hoess was subjected to torture and psychological brainwashing techniques by the Communists during his arrest, and his Nuremberg ‘testimony’ was delivered in a Zombie-like trance. Even Reitlinger rejects the Hoess testimony as hopelessly untrustworthy and also acknowledges that the Hoess claim at Nuremberg that Auschwitz was disposing of over 16,000 people a day would have meant a total of over thirteen million exterminated at the end of the war. The Soviet government charged that there were over four million persons exterminated at Auschwitz. Hoess was supposed to have confessed ‘ to a three million figure’ and at his subsequent Warsaw ‘trial’ the Communist prosecution reduced the number to 1,135,000. That this kind of juggling with millions of alleged victims does not disturb the writers of the establishment approved extermination literature shows the extent of the shoddy ‘scholarship’ pervading these ‘works.’ Hoess claims in ‘his book’ that the actual job of carrying out the ‘extermination’ was done by a special detachment of Jewish prisoners. ‘These Jewish prisoners allegedly took. charge of the newly arrived contingents at the camp, led them into the ‘gas chambers’, and disposed of the bodies afterwards. The S.S. therefore did very little, so that most of the S.S. personnel at the camp would be, left in total ignorance of the ‘extermination program.’ Since naturally no Jews could ever be found who would admit to having been a member of this ‘special -detachment’, the whole issue is left conveniently unprovable. Considering the sheer numbers involved in these alleged extermination programs and the necessarily huge number of support personnel that would have been absolutely necessary to carry out any massive ‘extermination program’ it is worth emphasizing that no living, authentic eye witness of these events has ever been produced; however, logic, reasons or facts have never stopped the supporters of the extermination legend. A good example of this type of fuzzy thinking occurred in the LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE’ (March 30, 1973 issue). The paper stated: ‘Nearly a million people were murdered in Treblinka in the course of a year. 18,000 were fed into the gas chambers every day.’ Of course, if 18,000 persons were murdered daily as this paper claims, the figure of 1,008;000 victims would be reached in a mere fifty-six days and the correct figure for a whole year would be 6,480,000! For just for this camp too! It boggles the mind that so many people will read and unthinkingly accept this kind of nonsense.

        Charlotte Bormann, a Communist political prisoner at Ravensbrueck, stated in her book, THE GESTAPO INVITES YOU, that rumors of gas executions were deliberate, malicious inventions circulated among the inmates by the Communists. Needless to say, Charlotte Bormann was not permitted to testify at the Rastadt trial of the Ravensbrueck camp personnel which took place in the French Occupation Zone of Germany. This has been the usual fate of those who question the extermination legend. At this point a very simple observation can be made here which puts the whole matter into proper focus: Is it likely that the Germans would have taken the time, trouble and enormous expense of transporting Jews for days on end to elaborate and costly slaughter houses at a time when Germany was fighting for its very survival on two fronts?

        To have transported the mythical six million Jews and countless other nationalities to internment camps, to have housed, clothed and fed them would simply have paralyzed their military operations. A transportation of a reasonable number of prisoners such as the 363,000 at Auschwitz, would make sense in terms of the compulsory labor they supplied for the vast industrial complex at Auschwitz. At a time when the Germans were desperately short of manpower would they have ‘gassed’ people by the million?

        One cogent illustration: At Dachau near Munich the propaganda claim originally was that ‘238,000 people’ were cremated there. Since then the official casualty figures have had to be steadily revised downwards, and now stand at 20,600. The majority of this much revised figure died from typhus and starvation towards the end of the war, and I might add here, that this was caused by the intensive Allied air bombings. Undoubtedly this deflation, to ten percent of the original figure, will continue and will one day be applied to the whole six million figure.

        One question which often comes to mind to most people on this subject: what about the various atrocity photographs? Here we see a careful, completed blend of truth, half-truth and falsehood. Because of the saturation bombings of the Allies (US and Britain) which paralyzed the transport and communications system of Germany, no food reached the camps in those horrible last few months of the war. Starvation claimed an increasing toll of victims throughout Germany and Central Europe, including the concentration camps. These conditions caused several thousand deaths in the camps, and it is precisely these fearful conditions that are represented in the photographs of piles of emaciated corpses and starving human beings which the Liberal Establishment propagandists delight in showing victims of extermination. Victims of Allied extermination might be more appropriate. Dr. Russell Barton, now superintendent and consultant psychiatrist at Severalls Hospital, Essex, England, spent one month at the Bergen-Belsen camp after the war (where the great majority of the ‘atrocity’ photographs originated) and made the following comments, which appeared in Purnell’s HISTORY OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR, Vol. 7, No. 15, published in London: ‘Most people attributed the conditions of the inmates to deliberate intention on the part of the Germans. Inmates were eager to cite examples of brutality and neglect, and visiting journalists from different countries interpreted the situation according to the needs of propaganda at home.’ Dr. Barton further elaborated: ‘German medical officers told me that it had been increasingly difficult to transport food to the camp for some months. Anything that moved on the autobahns was likely to be bombed. I was surprised to find records, going back for two or three years, of large quantities of food cooked daily for distribution. I became convinced, contrary to popular opinion, that there had never been a policy of deliberate starvation. This was confirmed by the large numbers of well-fed inmates. Why then were so many people suffering from malnutrition? The major reasons for the state of Belsen were disease, gross overcrowding by central authority, lack of law and order within the huts, and inadequate supplies of food, water and drugs.’Dr. Barton: concludes: In trying to assess the causes of the conditions found in Belsen one must be alerted to tremendous visual display, ripe for purposes of propaganda, that masses of starved corpses presented. To discuss such conditions naively in terms of ‘goodness’ and ‘badness’ is to ignore the constituent factors.’ Since the extreme conditions at Belsen applied to very few camps, outright forgeries have been used to exaggerate ‘atrocities.’ One blatant and particularly offensive example is that of photographs from the joint American-English Air Bombing of Dresden, Germany on February 13, 1945: These totally unjustified bombings (from any military or strategic viewpoint) claimed a record 135,ooo people on that one night, mostly refugee women and children. Over 800,000 persons were killed in the Dresden area because of extended civilian saturation bombing over several weeks. The bodies of such victims were piled and burned in heaps of 400 and 500 for several weeks. A propaganda film was required viewing for all adult Germans represented these scenes as having occurred in Nazi ‘gas chambers’ at Buchenwald. The BRITISH CATHOLIC HERALD of October 29, 1948 documents this particular case in detail. There are other such examples. The practice of ‘photomontage’ is not uncommon. In this particular fraud there will be a picture of several very emaciated people standing up in a line, obviously the victims of severe malnutrition, but still alive, and then juxtaposed in front of these people will be shown many emaciated corpses – this part of the ‘photograph’ a complete fraud and obviously just put there for intended effect. The Canadian author Arthur Ponsonby wrote a book titled, FALSEHOOD IN WARTIME (London, 1928) which exposes the faked photographs of German ‘atrocities’ in the First World War.

        One survey of the German concentration camps and the conditions of the inhabitants therein, which is unique in its honesty and objectivity, is the three VOLUME REPORT OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF THE RED CROSS ON ITS ACTIVITIES DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR (Geneva, Switzerland 1948). The ICRC was able to successfully apply the 1919 Geneva military convention in order to gain access to civilian internees held in Central and Western Europe by the German authorities. The Soviet Union, in stark contrast, refused to admit any ICRC access to their camps which were known to have held several million persons and whose conditions were known to be far and away the worst in human existence. This despite the fact that the Soviet Union was our ‘noble ally’ in the great patriotic war against fascism.’ The ICRC was permitted to distribute food parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942 and from Poland beginning in February 1943 to the very last months of the war in 1945. The ICRC Report states that as many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily.’ From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with a total weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps. These parcels contained food, clothing and pharmaceutical supplies. The ICRC complained that obstruction of the vast relief operation for Jewish internees came, not from the Germans but from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia The report stated that the majority of the deaths in the camps came from the Allied blockade and what the ICRC termed ‘the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies.’ The report refutes the often claimed proposition that mass executions were carried out in gas chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. The Report states, ‘Not only the washing places, but installations for baths, showers, and laundry were inspected by the delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged.’ The Report gives a final statistical breakdown of deaths during the Second World War. While over six million German civilians were killed as a result of Allied air bombings, and forcible repatriation after the war from the eastern provinces, the total number of victims of persecution because of politics, race or religion who died in prisons and concentration camps was around 300,000. This only excludes the U.S.S.R. Over eighty percent of the Russian Jews were evacuated by the Soviet authorities to areas that the German forces never reached (for one example only, beyond the Urals into Soviet Asia) and so while the great extermination legend asserts that the Germans began their’,extermination’ program in the Soviet Union, only a small percentage of the so-called ,experts’ have claimed that any significant figure of Soviet Jews were killed. Mostly the figure is derived from Poland and other eastern European countries.

        Professor Rassinier rejects the propaganda figure of the ‘Six Million Dead,’ on the basis of a very detailed, well documented statistical study based overwhelmingly on Jewish sources. The figure of ‘six million exterminated Jews’ was reached by the method of inflation of the number of the pre-war Jewish population in Europe by not taking into account the very extensive Jewish emigration from Germany, Poland and several other Central European states between 1933 through 1939. The corollaries of this policy is then achieved by an arbitrary delation of the number of survivors after 1945. This ‘testimony,’ both oral and written, by so called ‘witnesses’ such as Kurt Gerstein, Dr. Miklos Nyiszli, Wilhelm Hoettl and Wisliceny are all that backs up the whole gigantic ‘extermination’ fraud.’

        Rassinier shows in this great study that at least 4 million of the so called ‘six million’ could not have been exterminated by the Germans. There is in fact considerable justification for believing that the actual casualty figure from all causes in the Jewish population is closer to 500,000.

        Only when the atrocity picture is placed in proper perspective can there be a clear study of the actual causes and effects of the greatest catastrophe in human history, the second world war. As long as we primitively cling to the devil theory or diabolism in our studies of great historical events, we will keep on repeating our previous mistakes. The careful, balanced, judicious weighing of the pros and cons of all sides to the great controversies of our day will only take place when the atrocity legend is put in its proper, limited place. We suffer today more misinformation than from actual ignorance. Mankind today more than ever suffers from what the great historian Harry Elmer Barnes termed ‘cultural lag,’ that is, the failure of our social-ethical-economic-political thinking to keep pace with our enormous technological- scientific progress. Our failure to properly learn and absorb the great lessons that the revisionist historians taught about the First World War led us into the Second World War. Today, our failure to learn and fully absorb the truth about the Second World War could lead us into even greater tragedies in the future. It is in the hope of preventing this that this first English language publication of the work of Paul Rassinier is dedicated.

        Michael Hardesty Washington, D.C. January 1, 1975

        Comment by jrizoli — July 28, 2016 @ 10:08 am

        • This is fabulous and stay tuned for more to come!

          Always celebrating what good times we can.

          Elie Wiesel Dies, our tribute

          Comment by Diane King — July 30, 2016 @ 11:38 am

    • The Germans are STILL suffering way more than the Jews and are suffering because OF the Jews — we all are, but they longer.

      GERMAN SURVIVORS OF ALLIED ATROCITIES
      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk8n9U5z9-ER4_YjU6vHEaQ

      Comment by Diane King — July 28, 2016 @ 10:30 am

    • Jim, what if you had everything wrong… Lets just say for now that the Holocaust actually happened? How would you describe it?

      Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 1:43 am

      • Thats like you asking me show me creation?
        What I want to see is the HoloHuxsters showing me how it happened in a mock up scenario….
        Get on that roof in Krema 1 in auschwitz through those ZB pellets on the floor and lets see what happens.
        Not a complicated thing……I say NOTHING will happen. No poof of gas NOTHING.
        That is why in the USA when the “gassed” a criminal in a real live gas chamber it took a lot of apparatus to accomplish the deed.
        You can’t gas 800 people in a 1000 sq ft rm the way the rooms were set up then……Please show me with a mock set up.
        All events can be recreated, the JFK assignation has been recreated, 911 building mock ups, other crime scenes to forensically show how things happened …..but not the Holohoax…….WHY? Why hasn’t the biggest so called murder scene to ever come on the face of this earth not be recreated forensically to prove what happened?

        Sure the HoloHoax movies show it happening but those are moves to entertain and can make anything happen, but to recreate a real live homicidal gassing using not people with sensitive instruments to show ZB readings in the room that would actually cause the death of a person thats what I’m talking about.
        It’s not done because it can’t be done using the data that is coming from those that say it happened.
        Is what I am asking not reasonable…..then if you can prove it I would have to finally admit I was wrong in my findings and research done.
        Just like I asked the Jews in my town to debate me on the HoloHoax guess what NO takers……..

        Reason why they would have to answer some hard hitting questions. Thats why you never see the HoloHoax debated in court….
        If the HoloHuxsters are cross examined they would be torn apart by a good lawyer….or me.
        The last time there was a cross examination of the HoloHoax topic in court, that was revealing excluding the David Irving trial, was in 1985 with the Zundel Trial, when the trial was continued in 1988 no more witnesses showed up…..I wonder why….. LOL

        I have permission to use this “copyrighted” material by Germar Rudolf……so all you copyright freaks back off…….
        a little long but worth reading…..

        GERMAR RUDOLF,LECTURES ON THE HOLOCAUST 369

        R is Germar
        L-is us listeners….

        To date, the only trial in which any such (revealing) cross-examination ever took place was the so-called “Zündel trial” in 1985, at which two Jewish witnesses, Arnold Friedman and Rudolf Vrba, were cross-examined by defense attorney Douglas Christie, advised by Prof. Dr. Robert Faurisson.

        L: Who were these two witnesses? R: Arnold Friedman was arrested during a raid in Slovakia and deported to Auschwitz in the spring of 1944. To my knowledge, he testified to his experiences at Auschwitz at great length for the first time during the first Zündel Trial. And here a few excerpts from what he had to say about the crematories at Auschwitz:921 “There was smoke belching from the crematoria, and it gave us a constant smell – the crematoria being close enough and low enough for the smoke to be dispersed through the camp rather than go straight up. […] Well, there was – the building that I described as a crematorium is a cottage-type low building with a short chimney protruding from it. At nighttime you saw the flames shooting above the chimney about a meter or two meters, depending on the particular time. There was smoke coming out, […] Well, it was the odour of burning flesh, and the flames were changing colours from yellow to a deep red on various occasions. […] We were discussing various things and this was part of the discussion of the guesswork we kids had in guessing that these were Hungarian transports because they have these type of flames, and these are Polish transports, they’re very skinny, […]” L: Sounds like a fireworks display. R: Yes, and it is technically impossible nonsense, of course. During his cross- examination, Friedman finally admitted that he didn’t really know any of that from personal experience, but that he had simply repeated what others have told him – as if he wouldn’t have been able to see smoke and flames for him- self!

        Rudolf Vrba is considered one of the most important witnesses in support of the existence of gas chambers at Auschwitz. Vrba was interned in Auschwitz, but succeeded in escaping – like hundreds of other inmates. What is so special about Vrba, though, is that he was the only Auschwitz escapee who ever wrote a report about the gas chambers.923 L: The only one, out of hundreds? R: That’s right. Vrba’s report on the alleged mass exterminations in Auschwitz was published in November 1944 by the War Refugee Board, a U.S. propa- ganda institution founded by the Jewish U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau.924 This was the first report on Auschwitz officially sanctioned by the U.S. government. Vrba’s testimony was therefore perhaps one of the most influential in this respect. 20 years later, Vrba published a book describing the same things, but he made the mistake of bragging about the exactitude and reli- ability of his recollections.925 In 1985, however, during his cross-examination, it turned out that his description of the alleged gas chambers had little to do with reality.926 Increasingly on the defensive, Vrba finally admitted that he had not seen them himself, but rather only described them on the basis of hearsay, using “poetic license” in writing his report.927 L: But there is nothing wrong with using poetic license. R: That is true only as along as one doesn’t claim to be telling the truth. A novel, after all, isn’t a tissue of lies. It only becomes one when the author claims to be telling the truth, and that is exactly what Vrba loudly proclaimed since 1944.

        The prosecutor responsible for calling Vrba to the stand to testify about the gas chambers was so disgusted at Vrba’s dishonesty that he interrupted Vrba’s examination personally on the grounds of Vrba’s obvious unreliability.928 L: Well, Vrba’s memory may not have been very reliable, but that doesn’t make his testimony a lie. R: The story isn’t over yet. In his book Pietà, Swedish Professor Georg Klein told of a conversation he had with Rudolf Vrba in 1987.929 Klein was a Hungarian Jew who had experienced the persecution of the Jews during the war, but he had no knowledge of mass extermination. In 1987, Klein talked to Vrba about the nine-hour film Shoa, produced by Claude Lanzmann a few years before.930 The topic of Vrba’s experiences at Auschwitz naturally came up, since Klein was a Holocaust survivor, too. Klein asked Vrba whether his colleagues knew about his experience during the war. At first, Vrba didn’t answer the question. But later, with a sarcastic smirk, he mentioned that one of his colleagues had gotten really excited upon unexpectedly seeing Vrba in Lanzmann’s film. The colleague, of course, wanted to know whether Vrba’s statements in the film were really true. Vrba’s answer was to the effect that: “I do not know. I was just an actor and I recited my text.” R: To which his colleague commented as follows: “Most extraordinary! I did not know that you were an actor. Seeing that, why was it said that the film was made without actors?”

        : At this revelation, Klein was speechless and refrained from asking any further questions. In his book, he says he will never forget Vrba’s mocking smirk. L: In other words, Vrba isn’t just a witness using “poetic license,” he’s just a bald-faced liar. L: Well, Georg Klein only repeats what Vrba told him. But if Vrba was a liar, how do we know whether what he told Klein was true or not? R: Once a liar, always a liar… L: So if Claude Lanzmann gave Vrba a “script” to repeat, what does this tell us about the credibility of the other witnesses in Lanzmann’s film? R: Alright, now therefore to our next example of deliberate lying which I would like to mention, and that is, in particular, the greatest liar of them all – Claude Lanzmann. Perhaps you recall his strange statement that he would destroy any material or documentary proof of the existence of the gas chambers, if any such proof were ever found (see p. 179). Let us have a look at this case of apparent irrationality. As already mentioned, Claude Lanzmann created a monumental work with his 9½ hour film Shoah, in which he attempted to refute the revisionists. The film consists exclusively of interviews with witnesses.

        Some of these witnesses were former SS men. According to Lanzmann, several of these SS men only agreed to be interviewed on the condition that the interview was not to be re- corded. He is then said to have recorded these interviews using a hidden cam- era. One of the SS men allegedly taken in by this trick was Franz Suchomel, said to have been active as an SS Unterscharführer in Treblinka. An analysis of Suchomel’s testimony shows that what he states cannot be true,931 but let’s leave that aside here. I would prefer to examine Lanzmann’s claim to have filmed this interview with a camera hidden in a bag. When you look at this interview, you note the following: – Suchomel often looks directly into the camera throughout long passages; – the camera is always correctly aimed and focused; – when both of them look at a diagram of the camp, the diagram is held up to the camera; the camera then enlarges the pointer and follows it exactly as it moves across the diagram. L: But that is impossible, if the camera was hidden in a bag! R: Well, not unless both people knew that the camera was there. L: So Lanzmann is just taking the movie-goer for a ride.

        R: Just so. But even worse: as early as 1985, in an interview, Lanzmann admitted to paying all his German witnesses the sum of 3,000 deutschmarks, after which the witnesses had to sign a pledge to keep quiet about the payments for 30 years. But money alone was not enough. To get witnesses to come forward at all, he invented a “Research Center for Contemporary History,” with fake letterheads from an “Académie de Paris” and fake identity documents in the name of “Claude-Marie Sorel,” “Doctor of Historical Scholarship.”932 In 2004, he even bragged about this before school children:933 “And then I paid them. No small sums, either. I paid them all, the Ger- mans.” R: Let’s sum up: the “novelist” Vrba, who must have “known what was expected of him,” was given a “script” by Lanzmann, telling what to say! Question: what did the other “witnesses” receive during the making of the film Shoah? And what did the former SS men receive (perhaps in addition to a “script”)? Answer: large bribes to make them testify the way Lanzmann wanted them to.

        And what was the alleged purpose of the “documentary film” Shoah? L: To tell the truth! R: Correct. But the “truth” doesn’t need a “script,” and you don’t buy the “truth” like a whore. L: Maybe not, but what they tell in that movie could still be true. R: Hypothetically yes, but what is the probability of it? The actors’ credibility is so profoundly destroyed that I wouldn’t take anything for granted what they want me to believe about the Holocaust without independent corroboration. And now to my last example of lies. Sometimes it is quite simple to expose a liar. The case of Rudolf Kauer proves this. A former inmate of Auschwitz, he admitted that he lied when he accused former Auschwitz personnel of beating a Polish girl on her breasts with a bullwhip, ripping one breast of. “I lied,” he said, “That was just a yarn going about the camp. I never saw it.” Which proves that not all of those who spread rumors and clichés as their own experience are unaware that they are untruthful.

        Comment by jrizoli — July 30, 2016 @ 7:12 am

        • You wrote: “to recreate a real live homicidal gassing using not people with sensitive instruments to show ZB readings in the room that would actually cause the death of a person thats what I’m talking about.
          It’s not done because it can’t be done using the data that is coming from those that say it happened.”

          I wrote about the design of the gas chambers here: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/08/19/holocaust-gas-chambers-were-designed-by-topf-und-sohne-company-who-knew/

          Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 8:07 am

        • Alright, Jim answer this one question. Is holohoax101 wrong when it says:

          “This is a picture of the ‘gas chamber’ at Majdanek, and yes, that is an unbarred window.

          http://www.holohoax101.org/Majdanek.jpg

          Is this website telling the truth?

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 10:35 am

        • “Click” if the holocost REALLY happened in the way it was described, then it defies PHYSICS, SCIENCE, EXECUTION SCIENCE, CHEMISTRY AND COMMON SENSE. Had there been extermination, this is how it would have gone.

          The Germans are known for intelligence and efficiency. The boorish method that shows NO imagination would have been like the Soviets did – go from town to town, a bullet in the head by the CHEKA as they went.

          Since the Germans have a great deal more imagination, not wishing to befoul the Reich further, transport targeted individuals to the Polish border have a huge garage or tent structure that would hold each and every train car, ‘tent’ the car, pour in NOT ZYKLON B because there’d be no interest in delousing, but one of the more toxic gaseous chemicals that might actually be able to kill people and with massive equipment (like you’d find in a grain elevator), dump them on the Polish side and then have THEM dispose of the bodies. (Now this method isn’t very efficient, but then I’m not in the business and evidently neither were they).

          But there is even a more efficient way to dispose of massive bodies as depicted in ONE THIRD THE HOLOCAUST, should that actually have been the goal. But it certainly would NOT have been hauling thousands of jews, ad nauseum to the eastern part of Poland to house, feed, clothe, delouse, medicate and then kill them. Stay tuned. The greatest minds are searching for this OTTH installment.

          Comment by Diane King — August 1, 2016 @ 12:17 pm

      • You wrote: [quoting Jim Rizoli] “What I want to see is the HoloHuxsters showing me how it happened in a mock up scenario….
        Get on that roof in Krema 1 in auschwitz through [throw] those ZB pellets on the floor and lets see what happens.”

        Jim has made a million videos; he has interviewed all the experts. If the “Holocaust” actually happened, the experts that Jim has interviewed would have described it.

        Instead, all the experts have explained WHY the Holocaust could not have happened, as the Holohoaxers say that it did.

        Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 10:15 am

        • Did you literally ignores what he just requested me to do? The guy honestly just asked to toss Zyklon into a poorly made reconstruction… That’s about the most idiotic thing he has ever told me… And hell he told me to do an experiment with the gas vans to see if they could kill…

          Why would I drop Zyklon into a room which:

          1) doesn’t have its portable heater.

          2) No working ventilation cause it is a RECONSTRUCTION… It was only made for the purpose of being a visual…

          3) What will happen is obvious… I would be arrested… Sort of like if I dared him to walk outside the Bundestag shouting that the holocaust never happened.

          There is no point to be made… As well I really only need rudolfs test with the brick to make a point.

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 10:46 am

          • You wrote: “Did you literally ignores what he just requested me to do? The guy honestly just asked to toss Zyklon into a poorly made reconstruction…”

            The gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp is NOT “a poorly made reconstruction.” The gas chamber that is shown to tourists today is the original building. The original gas chamber was not torn down and then rebuilt.

            The original building, which had a morgue and an oven room, was converted into a bomb shelter for the SS men because it was located across the street from a hospital where the patients and the doctors could then find shelter from a bomb attack.

            It was much later that the bomb shelter was then converted back to it’s original state, which Holocaustians claim was a gas chamber.

            You can read the full story of the Auschwitz gas chamber on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08.html

            The information on my website was written BEFORE I became a denier.

            Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 12:14 pm

            • “The gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp is NOT “a poorly made reconstruction.””

              The construction is really botched… One only needs to look at how the poles inserted the holes to tell…

              “The gas chamber that is shown to tourists today is the original building. The original gas chamber was not torn down and then rebuilt.”

              There is a large difference between what I have said vs the entire building being taken down…

              “For example, the gas chamber of crematorium 1 had been
              abandoned in 1943, and had been transformed into an air-raid shelter in 1944, undergoing
              substantial modifications in the process. Then, after the war, it was once more changed, to provide a
              museological reconstruction of the original gas chamber. Leuchter assumed that the layer of plaster
              from which he took his samples was the same that had coated in the walls in 1942. There is little to
              no evidence to support that premise…In fact, when the gas chamber of crematorium I was adapted into a air raid
              shelter in 1944, the room was subdivided that very reason in many small rooms, divided by heavy
              walls designed to support the reinforced roof.”

              The reconstruction is botched and one can see rather easily that the poles only did the bare minimum. That’s why I argued with Tal about the reconstruction for a while, but the ventilation system was never reinstalled. The holes were poorly inserted and by chance might not even be in the correct positions.

              “The original building, which had a morgue and an oven room, was converted into a bomb shelter for the SS men because it was located across the street from a hospital where the patients and the doctors could then find shelter from a bomb attack. ”

              What does this have to do with the Poles being lazy with their reconstruction?

              “It was much later that the bomb shelter was then converted back to it’s original state, which Holocaustians claim was a gas chamber.”

              Except it was… Hoess and Stark has clearly supported this.

              “The killing of the above-mentioned Russian POWs using Cyclon B was continued, but no longer in Block II because it took at least two days to air out the building.

              We therefore used the morgue of the crematory as the gassing facility. The doors were made airtight and we knocked some holes in the ceiling through which we could throw in the gas crystals.

              But I remember only one transport of nine hundred Russian POWs who were gassed there. It took several days to burn their bodies.”

              Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 1:14 pm

          • I wrote about the reconstruction of the Auschwitz gas chamber on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/the-reconstruction-of-the-gas-chamber-in-the-main-auschwitz-camp/

            Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 12:58 pm

            • Alright? So did pelt.

              http://vho.org/aaargh/engl/report.pdf

              Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 1:15 pm

              • You wrote: “So did [Robert Jan van] pelt.”

                I have written about van Pelt on several blog posts which you can read at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/robert-jan-van-pelt/

                Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 1:20 pm

                • This guest wrote about you here.

                  https://samuraimohel.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/is-scrapbookpages-com-a-holocaust-denial-site/

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 2:00 pm

                • You wrote: “This guest wrote about you here.”

                  Why do you refer to this unnamed person as a “guest?” Of whom is he a guest? He wrote this several years ago. He doesn’t give his name, nor what country he is in. I have tried to identify his location by the time that he posts something. I think that he might be located in Europe; I suspect that he is in Russia, but some of his writing indicates that he is in England. He revealed my real name, but not his real name.

                  His writing comes up when someone is using a cellular phone and speaks into their phone to find my blog by asking for further glory.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 2:48 pm

                • It is the 3rd result in a google search. Also if you read the first line we can read:

                  “(Guest Post)”

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 2:51 pm

                • The head line of the article reads: “Is Scrapbookpages.com a Holocaust Denial Site?” This was written by an unnamed person on June 30, 2012, which was 4 and 1/2 years ago.

                  When I first started writing my Scrapbookpages.com web site in 1998, I was not a Holocaust denier. That is why he is asking the question of whether I am a denier. I started traveling in 1998, and the more I traveled, the more I became a denier. This unnamed person detected that I was becoming a denier, even before I became a denier.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 3:19 pm

                • Actually… If you read it the guy says you haven’t openly stated if you were a holocaust denier… It has noting to do with the origin of your website.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 9:49 pm

                • You wrote: “If you read it the guy says you haven’t openly stated if you were a holocaust denier.”

                  At the time that this person put this up on the internet, I was not yet a confirmed Holocaust denier. This fellow is complaining about what I wrote on newsgoups many years ago. I defended Mark Furman, which in this person’s eyes, was a crime.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 6:42 am

                • Well, Mark Furman doesn’t exactly have a very good reputation… Especially with his actions in the 1980’s.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 2:35 pm

                • If you start investigation the HoloHoax with an open mind and reading all the nonsense about it you will become a “holocaust denier”
                  If you are afraid of the truth you will remain a HoloHoax believer. It’s based on what your reality is…..one based on lies or truths.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — July 31, 2016 @ 9:03 am

                • You wrote: “If you start investigation the HoloHoax with an open mind and reading all the nonsense about it you will become a “holocaust denier”

                  Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Click has studied the Holocaust in college, where everything that is taught is the Jewish version of the Holocaust.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 9:38 am

                • Click has a long ways to go……She is being taught the lies first, hopefully she will consider the truth and see the difference.
                  But it is hard to shake off bad habits and learn good ones…one thing she needs is humility….so far it’s not her best trait.`
                  Quote for the day….
                  When and honest man/woman honestly mistaken, comes face to face with undeniable and irrefutable truth, he/she is faced with one of two choices, he/she must either cease being mistaken or cease being honest.
                  Good luck with that Click….

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — July 31, 2016 @ 11:41 am

                • You wrote: “Click has a long ways to go……She is being taught the lies first, hopefully she will consider the truth and see the difference.”

                  She is reading the truth on my blog. This is all new to her, so it will take time to convert her into a Holocaust denier.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 11:46 am

                • Jim… you again are a fucking idiot as always… Your telling me that I have too look into everything even when your the one making baseless claims?

                  Its sort of like your claim that Teeth are hard to smash…

                  Or that a fucking ball mill was a cement mixer.

                  Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 2:43 pm


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