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July 30, 2016

How did the Holocaust gas chambers really work?

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 9:18 am

One of the readers of my blog asked this in a comment: “Lets just say for now that the Holocaust actually happened? How would you describe it?”

I assume that the real question is “How did the gas chambers work?”

I have been blogging for over six years now; in the year 2001, I wrote an explanation of how the gas chambers worked, according to two eye-witnesses who wrote books about it.

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/eye-witness-description-of-the-procedure-used-in-the-auschwitz-birkenau-gas-chambers/

My photo of the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp

My 2005 photo of the gas chamber in Auschwitz

The Krema I gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp, shown in the photo above, is a reconstruction which was done by the Soviet Union in 1947.

The original gas chamber had been converted by the Germans into an air raid shelter in September 1944. A new entrance door, which can be seen in the background of the photo above, had been added.

In September 1944, the original gas chamber in the Auschwitz main camp had been divided into four small rooms. In the photo above, you can see the reconstructed opening into the oven room on the left hand side. This opening had been closed up when the gas chamber was converted into an air raid shelter. During the reconstruction, the opening into the oven room was moved a few feet.

My photo above was taken with flash; the room is actually very dimly lit and looks much darker.

This YouTube video shows what tourists see today, when they take a tour of the main Auschwitz camp:

26 Comments »

  1. There are three things in this picture, of what was in fact labeled a “morgue” on the building plans, that clearly refute the atrocity propaganda claim of it being a gas chamber.

    An ordinary door without sealing in place of a gas chamber door that can be tightly shut and securely held in place.

    The door opens inwards preventing it being opened when the alleged victims died fell in front of it.

    You can see that the light fixtures and wiring are not explosion proof, which would be required in a gas chambers, to prevent an explosion

    Comment by John Mortl — July 31, 2016 @ 2:32 pm

  2. What possible reason could the Ruskies have,for reconstructing a gas house? Did they reconstruct it exactly the way the old one was?

    Comment by Tim — July 30, 2016 @ 11:28 pm

    • It was the polish authorities who reconstructed it… the same story applies to majdanek with the connection of the gas chambers to Barrack 41. It was again the Polish. The soviets are not to blame.

      Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 12:06 am

      • You wrote: “the same story applies to majdanek with the connection of the gas chambers to Barrack 41.”

        I wrote about Building 41 on my website at
        http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Majdanek/Majdanek02.html

        Building 41 is the gas chamber building which has a window in it. I asked my tour guide what prevented the Jews from breaking the glass and climbing out the window. She said that there were German guards standing outside the window, ready to shoot any Jew who tried to climb out the window.

        Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 6:23 am

        • In a 1942 photograph one can see the window was not there. If the window was there then it would be to the right of that shed which housed the heater for the ‘experimental’ gas chamber.

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 2:15 pm

      • I’m just going by what the article said. It said the Soviets rebuilt it on ’47. Well neither here nor there,I’ll ask the same question differently. What possible reason did the poles have,for rebuilding it? I don’t think they were too concerned about the Jews at the time. We had a world we were trying to put back together.

        Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 8:36 am

        • To stage off damp… The hanger which used to cover it was damaged and the poles combined the two buildings… I have a ,majdanek survivors book and she doesn’t go into much detail but says the monument and that the altercations were all done by the polish authorities. I also say they added it to stage off damp cause in 1961 they dug a moat to do a similar thing as well. Though the Museum did fuck up when it came to the connection of the building though. In a large number of books from the 1980’s it was claimed the Germans had connected the buildings, and the earliest source which I could find that mentions the Germans connecting the buildings was in the 1965 book “majdanek concentration camp” by Edward Gryn. My current theory is that the museum as unaware of the early done altercation and attempted to find a conclusion for the buildings connection. And they the books which preceded it used Edward Gryn’s book as a source for the buildings connection. I sadly don’t have the money to spend very freely on books so I am relying on books with are a bit outdated but they do their job.

          Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 2:33 pm

          • That’s why I was wondering if it was rebuilt the same way the old one was. I was gonna say if it wasn’t ,then I hope they don’t try to use to educate school kids with . I’m not talking about measurements being off by 6 to 12 inches. I talking about physical characteristics of the building. Windows or doors. Shit like that. Then again,if the Reds got their hands in it,I’m gonna question the piss out of it.

            Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 2:54 pm

            • Alright, works for me. The best I can say is just as always, is that it was the polish authorities. At least according to the account given by Cipora Hurwitz.

              Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 3:04 pm

    • You wrote: “What possible reason could the Ruskies have,for reconstructing a gas house?”

      The Russians wanted to implicate the Germans in worse crimes than they had committed, so that everyone would hate the German people for ever more, and not mention the crimes committed by the Russians.

      Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 6:34 am

      • That’s what I figured. I just wanted to hear someone say it,so I wasn’t the Lone Ranger. They had the axe from hell to grind with the Germans . I remember from history,we had “operation vittles” going. The Ruskies tried to stop us from getting food to west Berliners. I heard the Ruskies eventually allowed us access to get food to West Berlin . That just shows how bad the red bastards wanted people of Germany to suffer. They wanted to disrupt the flow of food to starving people. Another thing. If the allies hated the Krauts so bad,why did they bust their humps trying to get food to them. Army Air Corps,Canadian Air Force and RFC (or RAF. Whatever they were called at that time) made over 200,000 with food for these German folks. I don’t see where they hated them too much. They were working overtime to make sure these folks got fed

        Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 2:42 pm

      • 200,000 flights. I just mentioned 200,000. I forgot to put “flights”,behind the 200,000

        Comment by Tim — July 31, 2016 @ 2:45 pm

  3. You are asking about Krema 1 right? I would guide you to the testimony of Hans Stark.

    “At another, later gassing — also in autumn 1941 — Grabner* ordered me to pour Zyklon B into the opening because only one medical orderly had shown up. During a gassing Zyklon B had to be poured through both openings of the gas-chamber room at the same time. This gassing was also a transport of 200-250 Jews, once again men, women and children. As the Zyklon B — as already mentioned — was in granular form, it trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight.”

    Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 1:01 pm

    • You wrote: “I would guide you to the testimony of Hans Stark.”

      I wrote about the testimony of Hans Stark on my website:
      http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08A.html

      The following quote is from my website:
      Begin quote
      Contrary to Jean-Claude Pressac’s description of “three” original holes on the roof, a statement by Hans Stark, a member of the SS staff at Auschwitz, describes only two holes on the roof of Krema I.

      The following quote from Hans Stark is from the book entitled “The Good Old Days,” by Klee, Dressen and Riess:

      At another, later gassing–also in autumn 1941–Grabner ordered me to pour Zyklon B into the opening because only one medical orderly had shown up. During a gassing Zyklon B had to be poured through both openings of the gas-chamber room at the same time. This gassing was also a transport of 200-250 Jews, once again men, women and children. As the Zyklon B–as already mentioned–was in granular form, it trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight.

      Filip Müller, the author of “Eye Witness, Three Years in the Gas Chambers,” wrote that there were six openings on the roof and several SS men poured the gas pellets into the room.
      End quote

      It is very clear to me that you have had a one-sided education, and that you are learning about the other side now.

      This quote is from my website:
      Contrary to Jean-Claude Pressac’s description of “three” original holes on the roof, a statement by Hans Stark, a member of the SS staff at Auschwitz, describes only two holes on the roof of Krema I.

      The following quote from Hans Stark is from the book entitled “The Good Old Days,” by Klee, Dressen and Riess:

      At another, later gassing–also in autumn 1941–Grabner ordered me to pour Zyklon B into the opening because only one medical orderly had shown up. During a gassing Zyklon B had to be poured through both openings of the gas-chamber room at the same time. This gassing was also a transport of 200-250 Jews, once again men, women and children. As the Zyklon B–as already mentioned–was in granular form, it trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight.

      Filip Müller, the author of “Eye Witness, Three Years in the Gas Chambers,” wrote that there were six openings on the roof and several SS men poured the gas pellets into the room.

      Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 1:14 pm

      • Alright… This is rather easy to explain, as the number of holes for example lets just take Müller into account. He says 6 holes… But mind he also worked in 2 other gas chambers. His memory of the first seems very faulty. One might think that Broad supported his claim, but this seems far from accurate, as Broad is an outsider.

        Golik and Pys both said it had 4 holes. This could be wrong though and could just be they took the reconstruction as fact.

        Stark says 2 holes but during the gassing they might have only had two guards putting the gas into the chamber… Thus only 2 holes were in use at any point in time. Mind that he only took part in one gassing as well.. The rest is complete observation and mind that he could be very, very, very wrong on there being 2 holes.

        The witness whom worked at the Krema regularly would have been Grabner. He testified for there being 3 holes. This number seems accurate, and THHP is more likely incorrect about its 5 holes. That is if you wish to bring this up.

        HC ended the issue rather well.

        http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2016/02/on-number-of-zyklon-b-introduction.html

        Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 1:53 pm

        • You wrote: “The witness whom worked at the Krema regularly would have been Grabner. He testified for there being 3 holes. This number seems accurate, and THHP is more likely incorrect about its 5 holes.”

          When I went to Auschwitz in 1998, and climbed up onto the roof, I immediately said to myself “Something wrong!”

          The holes have no pattern. The holes are not lined up in any way. The location of the holes shows that they were not put there by a German person. There is no pattern, nor design, for the placement of the holes.

          As soon as I took my first step onto the roof of the gas chamber, I said to my self that this was not done by a German person. These holes were put there later, by the Russians who liberated Auschwitz.

          http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08A.html

          Comment by furtherglory — July 30, 2016 @ 3:03 pm

          • “When I went to Auschwitz in 1998, and climbed up onto the roof, I immediately said to myself “Something wrong!””

            Which Is why I’m telling you the reconstruction was BOTCHED…I am trying to understand how you keep missing this. Its not accurate to what the operators describe.

            “As soon as I took my first step onto the roof of the gas chamber, I said to my self that this was not done by a German person. These holes were put there later, by the Russians who liberated Auschwitz.”

            No one informed denies that it was a reconstruction… One only has to ask the staff to find out that its not original… Regardless this still doesn’t change that the room was used for mass murder at one point.

            Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 9:48 pm

            • You wrote: “this still doesn’t change that the room was used for mass murder at one point.”
              What is your source for claiming that the Auschwitz gas chamber was used for mass murder? If it couldn’t have happened, then it didn’t happen.

              Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 6:45 am

              • The Museum claims something like 10,000 people were gassed in Krema 1. I would have to check, but I think that is the number. Its substantial enough.

                Also… there is no reason to conclude that it couldn’t happen… You know all you need is a confined space and zyklon to kill people right? I believe if I remember correctly in the pelt report Krema 1 was heated via portable heater.

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 2:38 pm

            • You wrote: “this still doesn’t change that the room was used for mass murder at one point.”

              What is your source for saying that the room was used for mass murder? How was this proved? Was the world’s only gas chamber expert [Fred Leuchter] brought in to show the proof?

              Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 6:52 am

              • “Was the world’s only gas chamber expert [Fred Leuchter] brought in to show the proof?”

                Wow…. Where in the hell did you get the idea he was “the worlds only gas chamber expert”? Pressac proves that to be far from the truth…

                http://www.phdn.org/negation/pressac-leuchter.html

                I would direct you to the pelt report or Pressacs book though.

                Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 31, 2016 @ 2:41 pm

    • How appropriate that a “gas chamber” witness would have the name Stark – as in “Stark Raving Mad”!

      Comment by Talbot — July 30, 2016 @ 5:13 pm

      • How appropriate of tal… I think this entire comment goes without say.

        Comment by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Click Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ — July 30, 2016 @ 9:50 pm

      • You wrote: “How appropriate that a “gas chamber” witness would have the name Stark – as in “Stark Raving Mad”!”

        The word Stark is a German word which means “strong.” I have relatives with the last name Stark.

        Comment by furtherglory — July 31, 2016 @ 7:09 am

        • There was no intent on my part to besmirch the honourable German name of Stark. But If the word means “strong”, then, alas, it would appear that poor Hans Stark was unable to live up to his name, by not being able to remain strong enough to withstand the intense pressures of his Allied interrogators who wanted him to issue statements regarding the existence of “gas chambers”.

          Comment by Talbot — July 31, 2016 @ 8:37 am


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