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August 12, 2016

German prosecutors are running out of war criminals to be put on trial

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 8:37 am

For years, Germany has been trying to make amends for killing 6 million Jews in the Holocaust, but to no avail.  The Jews have been receiving reparations from the German people for over 70 years, but it is never enough.

The motto of the Jews is “Never forgive, never forget.”

Defendant Reinhold Hanning, a 94-year-old former guard at Auschwitz death camp, is pushed in a wheelchair after a break in his trial in Detmold, Germany, in this file picture taken February 18, 2016. REUTERS/Bernd Thissen/Pool/Files

Defendant Reinhold Hanning, a 94-year-old former guard at Auschwitz death camp, is pushed in a wheelchair after a break in his trial in Detmold, Germany, in this file picture taken February 18, 2016. REUTERS/Bernd Thissen/Pool/Files

The following quote is from a recent news article :

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German prosecutors have also recently charged two other Auschwitz death camp employees, a medic and a radio operator. But the suspects’ high age and frail health, more than 70 years after the end of World War Two, prevented the cases from going forward.

[Jens] Rommel said that more than 95 percent of a potential pool of suspects were either dead or too frail to be put on trial.

“It’s frustrating sometimes to see a suspect die just a few days before the start of a trial after much work has been invested into the case,” said Rommel.

Rommel said he is also concerned that a pending verdict by Germany’s Federal Court of Justice might stop Nazi crime investigations altogether. The court is expected to rule on the appeal of [Oscar] Groening, who has rejected the broader definition.

“If the [federal] court reverses the verdict and decides that the proof is not sufficient it would become extremely difficult to go forward with any other cases,” Rommel said.

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My suggestion is that the wives of the dead German war criminals could be put on trial. Women usually live longer than men, so there should be plenty of widows to put on trial. In any case, the show must go on. “Never forgive, never forget” — that is the motto of the Jews.

 

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  1. I wonder if the German legal authorities are going to extradite and prosecute any elderly Russian, American, British and French nationals who committed crimes and other atrocities in the internment camps inside Germany during the years after the war.

    There must be quite a few guards, typists, clerks, telephonists and book-keepers still alive, who were serving in the Allied armies of occupation during that period. And let’s face it – according to the present German laws – you would only have to be present in one of the camps where the offences were committed to be automatically found guilty and paraded in front of the world’s media.

    I remember a while back, one of the commentator’s on FG’s website – named Schlageter – had a relative who was summarily arrested by the Soviet police after the war, taken away to a camp and never seen again. Only later was it found out that he had died there of unknown causes.

    There must have been plenty of admin. personnel in these post-war allied camps – so why aren’t they brought to trial.

    But, oh, dear me, no! – that’s completely out of bounds of course.

    Comment by Talbot — August 13, 2016 @ 7:51 am

    • You wrote: “Schlageter – had a relative who was summarily arrested by the Soviet police after the war, taken away to a camp and never seen again.”

      After World War II, Germans were put into camps and treated very badly. I wrote about this in this blog post:

      https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/eisenhowers-death-camps-a-stain-on-american-history/

      Comment by furtherglory — August 13, 2016 @ 8:02 am

      • Yeah. The douchebag Reds were murdering them. How come nobody has ever asked for an accounting from the cheese dick Reds,as to what happened to those people. What happened to them is so demonstrable,Helen Keller could see it. The whole problem is everyone is such chickenshit bitches,that they’re afraid to call down the Red bastards on that one.

        Comment by Tim — August 13, 2016 @ 9:16 am

    • I’m still waiting to see,if they’re gonna think about a mock trial for Barry. Hey while we’re at it,let’s put the locomotive and the rail cars it pulled to the prisons,on trial. That would be no more or less bizzare than some of the other trials they have. Once the locomotive is pronounced guilty,they’re gonna put a rope around its exhaust port. Yeah I know. They’re gonna have to construct a special gallows that could support the locomotives weight,but that’s no big deal. The Jews will make Germany eat the cost of that one.

      Comment by Tim — August 13, 2016 @ 9:11 am

      • Dear old Barry, the St Bernard dog, unfortunately got his allotted role in life completely mixed up. He was supposed to be a Good Samaritan, who went up into the mountains with a barrel of brandy round his neck in order to rescue the poor souls who were in need of emergency aid. But instead, he found himself keeping the arrivals under control at the Treblinka transit camp. And his method of operation at Treblinka was certainly a dynamic and extremely effective one, because he would launch himself upon the poor victims buttocks and testicles – and even tear off great chunks of bodily parts.

        And Tim also mentions the rail cars. Well, at Stutthof, on the Baltic coast, the SS were not just using the fumigation shed for gassing the poor inmates, but apparently they were also deploying a sealed rail car for gassing them. The SS personnel would dress up as railway guards, armed with flags and whistles, in order to deceive the tragic victims that they were going for a train ride.

        What fiends, these Nazis were!

        Comment by Talbot — August 13, 2016 @ 9:50 am

        • That’s a new one. Every time I turn around,I hear about a new way the nazis killed. The German military was a great example of efficiency. However,on the other hand,I keep hearing they couldn’t make their mind how they wanted to kill people. If thats the case,they would be incompetent at best. So if they’re so fickle about how they killed Jews,how in the hell are they gonna manage to kill,6 million people. I could see the prisons now. ” I’m sorry folks. There’ll be no more gassings this week. We got a new method for gassing we’re testing right now. We will resume gassings as soon as we get the bugs worked out of this “latest” method of ours. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you”. Sun Tzu quoted one time,”a military leader will run a battle plan through his head,over and over,before he puts it into action”. Seems to me,the German military would’ve applied that to this scenario. It’s shit like this that makes me question the big number of dead Jews they always put out there. Think about it. If you’re wanting to wipe out a certain amount of Jews,in a certain part of the world,wouldn’t you go into the game with one (and only one),proven way to kill people? If you’re constantly changing up the plan,production is gonna go to shit. They would’ve fallen so far behind their production quota,there’d be no way In hell,they would ever catch up. Okay. We know the locomotive isn’t gonna be the only one put on trial. Some of the railcars have dirty hands and faces too. At least we know the locomotive won’t be alone at its war crimes trial or at the gallows. Maybe the prisons could’ve employed a big fat German dudes that live on a diet of Bratwurst,cabbage and beer. They could sit the sit the fat dude on the roof. Once the gas house is full of Jews,the fat dude lines his ass up on the spot where they would’ve dumped the Z pellets through. This fat dude can start peeling off the,”bratwurst,cabbage,beer farts”, one right after the other. That shit would be more deadly than Z Gas

          Comment by Tim — August 13, 2016 @ 10:23 am

    • “I remember a while back, one of the commentator’s on FG’s website – named Schlageter – had a relative who was summarily arrested by the Soviet police after the war, taken away to a camp and never seen again. Only later was it found out that he had died there of unknown causes.”

      In my dealings with Schlageter I’ve sometimes felt it was a pity that the Communists didn’t finish what the French started, that of wiping out his family root and branch.

      Then, of course, my natural instincts towards peace and non-violence take over and frankly I feel ashamed of myself. I can’t advocate mass murder, after all, I’m not a……………….

      Wait for it………….

      Nazi.

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

      Comment by Jeff K. — August 13, 2016 @ 10:25 am

    • I was just thinking of that, Talbot. I created a picture of the YALTA criminals behind bars. So thanks for that. Also the mini functionaries. PERFECT posting!

      Comment by Diane King — August 16, 2016 @ 6:59 pm

  2. Excellent point about the sonderkommandos.
    They did cause problems amongst those who were in the camps even on a good day.
    They really weren’t nice people at all to deal with.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 9:05 pm

  3. The Jews that did not get recorded in the camp were transferred out of the camp so they end up in all sorts of places. I don’t know why this is such a big deal. And I’ve said this many times before there were not that many Jews in the camps to begin with.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 5:12 pm

    • Like I said,”I’m not on either side here. When I get all the facts (which there’s so many,it’ll probably never happen) I’ll come to a conclusion. Everybody talks of records. How many nazi prisons were there? I’m asking because is it a possibility,there could’ve been records at some of the other prisons. I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility,that records could’ve been destroyed. Every Tom,Dick and Harry,we’re trying to bomb Germany back to the Stone Age. What about the Ruskies? Seems like every time you turn around the Reds are yammering on about records theyve had since the end of ww2. I think it’s very possible the nazis could’ve lost so Jews and not had them recorded . Look at the Indy. They drop the bomb at Tinian,and head home. Niponese u boat slams to fish in her side. That tub goes down,yet nobody knew she was missing. Is it possible that may have happened to some of those Jews . They get lost in the system.

      Comment by Tim — August 12, 2016 @ 6:04 pm

      • Tim I don’t think any records got lost or any Jews got lost I just don’t think there was even there.

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 7:06 pm

        • Well FG made a comment one time. She said the German military had a hardon for keeping accurate records. From where I stand,I think the Reds know this. I mean it seems like they pop up outta no where and say,”oh by the way,we found some nazi records in Moscow,that we seized at the end of the war”. I’ve said before,I don’t trust the bastards no further than I can throw them. Leopard can’t change its spots. That’s them. What records they produce,every one is quick to accept them. That’s probably BS,if Moscow produces these records. The interesting one is,IBM. They had a damn good way for the nazis to keep track of everyone. Germany was their cash cow for their punch card system. So something as easy as a punchcard system,is an easy way to keep track of people. I would expect something like that to pop up. IBM built a branch in Germany . I think I read somewhere it was in ’34 or ’35. The punch card system was a snap from what read . If you got prisoners you’re relocating,that seems to be an easy way to go. I’m wanting to know why I’ve never seen punch cards surface. It seems to me if your gonna put a case on a bunch of nazis for murder,IBM would’ve been knee deep in the shit. Hey those folks were dealing numbers. All the Jews involved in this shit,seem to climax and have multiple orgasms over numbers. I’ve said it before. I’m not on either side here. It’s impossible to be. Whatever so called “facts” the happen to exist,they’re f–led up worse than a football bat. If everybody did,what everyone said they did,then I would only have one word to describe the nazis. Benal. If they did in fact do everything they’re accused of,I’m giving them a failing grade in originality. They would be pitiful amateurs at best if they did kill the astronomical number of Jews . Okay if they did in fact kill 6,4.5 or 2 million Jews ( whatever the number ended up at when the Chicago Board of Trade stopped trading yesterday . Yeah. I still think number of dead Jews would be a helluva a commodity to buy and sell. Why not. They hedge on the “weather”). The only award the nazis could walk away with,is the number they killed. Now what happened with the “inquisition”? They did it in Gods name,so that’s a okay? Why haven’t any Jews bought cases against the church? Hey the way they killed Jews, was f–kin mind blowing ! My 2 favorites . The Iron Maiden and the Head Crusher. Talk about ,”not f–kin around. I admire those cats. They didn’t have time for games. Here’s my question. “Why haven’t the Jews gonna after the church?” Hey it ain’t no secret,the church has a windfall of cash. People can’t say,”well it happened long ago and the church has changed “. Oh yeah? Well the church still gave the inquisition their,”official seal of approval”. That seems to be the way the Jews look at shit. Don’t matter if attitudes have changed or not .GUILT BY ASSOCIATION! When “money” comes into the picture,I’m not gonna believe they’re looking for justice. I figure if I don’t meet with Gods criteria,and I end up in the basement when my time is up,I’ll have a huge surplus of Jews to f–k with,for the whole of eternity. Here’s an question that people either skirt the issue or they run away,when I ask. I figure the Hebs would have the hardon from hell,when it comes to human rights. Okay. What about after we left Nam? Hanoi went all out with their nifty little genocide program. They gave that fat f–k pol pot their blessings,to eliminate the Montagnards. Yeah I know I go on about them. The Yards also helped keep my dumb ass alive,when they were on patrol with us. So I got a bit more reason to want to see justice for them. The Jews drag nazis into court,that are pretty much at deaths door. You’d figure if they gave a shit about human rights,they’d advocate Justice,for all the people Pol Pot had put down. I would expect the Jews to be saying,”there’s plenty of people that worked at Pol Pots prisons. They were involved in murdering innocent people. Let’s put a case on them and drag them into court.” Why don’t the Jews tell the Dega,”hey. We’re gonna put a case on Hanoi. We’re gonna get y’all compensation. We’re pros at that. We’ll prove it in court ( if the Jews would like to earn brownie points with me,they drag Jane “the Hanoi whore” Fonda into court,and plop her skanky ass down next to Hanoi . Hey. Maybe we could get rid of that whore for good that way). Hey if the Jews want to impress me,they’ll be championing the rights of people who got f–ked,but nobody gives a damn about. That’ll probably never happen,so I guess the Jews will go on being,greedy,selfish ass bitches. If they’d come clean as “real” human beings,I might start to believe a bit more of what they say. They’re not really impressing me all that much.

          Comment by Tim — August 13, 2016 @ 9:04 am

          • You wrote: “The interesting one is,IBM. They had a damn good way for the nazis to keep track of everyone. Germany was their cash cow for their punch card system.”

            I learned to use an IBM punch card machine when I was in college. In using this machine, one cannot make a mistake because there is no way to correct a mistake, as with a typewriter. The punch card system did not last long because few people can type that accurately. [I just typed this comment without making a single mistake.]

            Comment by furtherglory — August 13, 2016 @ 9:13 am

            • Okay. There’s my point right there. Shit seems pretty accurate. How come none of that shit never surfaced at the trials. Why didn’t the defense attorneys press the prosecution for that shit? Further more,did anyone ever question why IBM put up a branch in Germany. Was everybody that damned stupid? I think it may have been a stumbling block for the prosecution. There’s questionable shit coming from both sides here. The more I look into though,a better part is starting to come from the Jew side. That still don’t mean I’ve taken a side. It’s just an observation I’ve made.

              Comment by Tim — August 13, 2016 @ 9:26 am

              • Tim the only side that you can take is the side of Truth…. the Jews side is all lies….they made up the HoloHoax story to benefit themselves and the allies while destroying the German sign of things so what else is there.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — August 13, 2016 @ 10:00 am

                • Well I’m starting to come across some questionable claims they make. I’m pretty sure they might have the historians under their thumb. That’s the reason i don’t really listen to history . It’s like the holo laws. I’m still waiting for someone to give me a workable reason as to why these laws were passed in the first place. Why don’t we have laws on the books where a person could be arrested for cracking black or polish jokes?

                  Comment by Tim — August 13, 2016 @ 10:30 am

  4. “[Jens] Rommel said that more than 95 percent of a potential pool of suspects were either dead or too frail to be put on trial.

    “It’s frustrating sometimes to see a suspect die just a few days before the start of a trial after much work has been invested into the case,” said Rommel.”

    Ha, ha, ha, Mr Rommel – It appears that you are finding it difficult to find elderly people left alive to prosecute. But never fear, if you kiss the hind quarters of your Jewish masters long, and tenderly enough, then I’m quite certain that they will give you permission to go after the children and grandchildren of these former wartime camp personnel – especially if they have any juicy property, investments and savings that can be skilfully, and legally, wrestled out of their possession.

    Comment by Talbot — August 12, 2016 @ 11:41 am

    • I’ve been banned from the Skeptics Forum both of them for what? Telling the truth!
      No reason was given but things were getting too hot for them and they don’t like dissension from their pet topic.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 12:21 pm

      • “Stone Mountain ” Jimbo strikes again. I think by them,”showing you the door”, their,”state of mental health” will improve. They won’t need their tranquilizers anymore. Happiness will return to the Skeptic land. Now their gonna have to take some of the blame. No matter how short your time there was,they still had a hand in,”building the perfect monster “. If they ask remember,Miss Click sent you in their direction. Don’t be surprised if they pull the ,”angry villagers” stunt from the Frankenstein movie,and show up
        On your front lawn,with pitch forks and torches.

        Comment by Tim — August 12, 2016 @ 1:24 pm

  5. “In any case, the show must go on. “Never forgive, never forget” — that is the motto of the Jews.”

    I still don’t understand this. Germany is putting these people on trial, not the Jews.

    My own personal opinion is this is a pathetic attempt to assuage their guilt over the laughable trials conducted in the 1960’s.

    Comment by Jeff K. — August 12, 2016 @ 9:48 am

    • Many Jews ( Sonderkommandos) are responsible for the Deaths of other Jews in the camps yet nothing happens to them.
      Thats why they the SK survivors are closed lipped about this HoloHoax….the more they talk the worse it gets for them.
      Every now and then a good gem of information leaks out and they are taken to task for it.
      If you were the SK would you like to talk about it?

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 9:53 am

      • Jim wrote: “Many Jews ( Sonderkommandos) are responsible for the Deaths of other Jews in the camps yet nothing happens to them.”

        Only in the exterminationist narrative. In the revisionist narrative, SK guys were just Jews operating some crematory facilities in concentration camps for hygienic purposes.

        Comment by hermie — August 12, 2016 @ 9:02 pm

    • Who do you think is running the show, Jeff K!!!! In Germany, the Western World??? The jews are behind the disasters, the economic problems, moral degradation, influx of migrants into each of the countries. JUST LIKE WEIMAR.

      Comment by Diane King — August 16, 2016 @ 7:02 pm

  6. Why don’t they go after the Operation Paperclip scientist who were illegally brought over to the several countries that were used for their expertise in rockets, weaponry etc….
    They would be actually good targets for trial considering that the Jews in some of the camps worked on the rockets and war related things.
    These scientist weren’t touched by any of the courts…….yet they were the ones responsible for using the Jews labor for the German War effort. If they can bring people to court who worked on the Crematories, railroads, and other users of Jewish labor why not the German Scientist who actually used Jews for labor and were responsible for some of their deaths?
    I guess the court is quiet on this one.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 9:08 am

    • That’s a very good comment, Mr Rizoli – why aren’t the Nazi Hunters going after the “Operation Paper Clip” scientists. Is it because it is much easier to persecute (sorry, prosecute) elderly pensioners in Germany who only had lowly roles in the camps, and never did any harm to anyone in their lives, rather than seek out the comfortably-off, and heavily protected, former scientists and technologists who now live in America and who authorised and carried out operations in the labour camps and war industries.

      The hypocrisy, and phony righteousness of these ongoing trials in Germany makes me sick.

      Comment by Talbot — August 12, 2016 @ 9:31 am

    • “Why don’t they go after the Operation Paperclip scientist who were illegally brought over to the several countries that were used for their expertise in rockets, weaponry etc….”

      Um, those scientists are dead now, Jim.

      You do realize that the war ended 71 years ago, right? Probably the youngest of those scientists were in their late 30’s to early 40’s.

      Comment by Jeff K. — August 12, 2016 @ 9:51 am

      • Cont…..the youngest were late 30’s-40’s at the end of the war.

        Comment by Jeff K. — August 12, 2016 @ 9:52 am

      • So why are they going after the Germans camp personal?
        A little late…don’t you think?

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 9:57 am

        • “So why are they going after the Germans camp personal?
          A little late…don’t you think?”

          Jim, on this one issue you and I agree. I think it is a waste of time, how can you actually prove these people actually committed a crime? Serving at a concentration should not be a presumption of guilt, especially someone like a secretary or a file clerk.

          No, these people need to be interviewed and their observations recorded for history.

          Comment by Jeff K. — August 12, 2016 @ 10:03 am

          • Jeff I agree….but the people being interviewed now are not going to tell the truth…..They will abide by the Judicial Notice set up by the Nuremberg courts 75 years ago….which is “The Holocaust Happened and 6 million Jews died” any deviation away from that “LIE” will get you into big trouble. So the person on trial will say for example yes “the Holocaust happened but I wasn’t personally involved”.
            It worked for some people but not all. People had to go along with the Lie because they were threatened with lost pensions, breakup of families, being sent to Siberia you get the picture if they didn’t tout the HoloHoax lie.
            So now we see why the truth was not getting out there. They made sure those that had good information were treatened as stated above or if they refused to go along with program….they were outright killed.
            This happened to Richard Baer last commandant of Auschwitz….He said he saw nothing unusual happening in the camp and was going to testify that at the Auschwitz trial later but was mysteriously killed.
            That was what happened to most of those that knew the truth.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 10:18 am

          • You wrote: “Serving at a concentration should not be a presumption of guilt, especially someone like a secretary or a file clerk.”

            Funny you should mention this. I have just put up a new blog post about the Nuremberg trials.

            Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2016 @ 10:23 am

          • their observations recorded for history

            What if they (the ones who served at eg Auschwitz, anyway) said ‘I didn’t see any gas chambers’, or ‘I knew and heard nothing about gas chambers — I don’t think there were any gas chambers’ — oh wait, they can’t say that — if they did, they would face an additional charge of ‘inciting racial hatred’ (against the Jews), because ‘Holocaustleugnung’ is against the law in Germany.

            Anything said at these hopelessly tainted trials is worthless — you fucking idiot.

            Comment by eah — August 12, 2016 @ 1:14 pm

            • “What if they (the ones who served at eg Auschwitz, anyway) said ‘I didn’t see any gas chambers’, or ‘I knew and heard nothing about gas chambers — I don’t think there were any gas chambers’ — oh wait, they can’t say that — if they did, they would face an additional charge of ‘inciting racial hatred’ (against the Jews), because ‘Holocaustleugnung’ is against the law in Germany.

              Anything said at these hopelessly tainted trials is worthless — you fucking idiot.”

              You seem tense lately. Are you having trouble getting your Hitler, Goering and Goebbels blow-up dolls fixed?

              Next time don’t play so rough, eah. You know you get really bitchy when you can’t relieve your pent-up……frustrations.

              Well, I don’t think these people would have that problem because the gas chambers existed. Their observations would be invaluable for future generations to show what happens when someone like Adolf Hitler comes to power. Basing a political movement on hatred is a horrible idea, one that Trump apparently hasn’t gotten through his thick skull.

              Oh, and eah?

              Why don’t you going a flying fuck at the moon, douchebag prom queen?

              See, that showed some thought. Make a note of it, you pompous prick.

              Comment by Jeff K. — August 12, 2016 @ 1:40 pm

              • Richard Baer (b. 1911) was commandant of Auschwitz I from May 11, 1944 and of Auschwitz II (Birkenau) from the end of 1944 until the evacuation of the camp in January 1945. After the war he lived near Hamburg under the assumed name Carl Neumann, working as a forester. He was arrested on December 21, 1960, and soon became the main prosecuted at the Frankfurt Auschwitz trial, then in preparation. Baer however never testified before the court, since he died in his prison cell in June 1963. The cause of death is variously given by historians as “natural causes” or “circulatory ailments,” but the autopsy did not rule out “ingestion of an odorless, non-corrosive poison” (cf. W. Stäglich, Auschwitz: A judge looks at the evidence, pp. 233-5). According to a brief article in the French right-wing newspaper Rivarol Baer had denied any knowledge of homicidal gas chambers during his pre-trial interrogations. A Brief List of the Conveniently Deceased by Thomas Kues

                Finally, the account of Mr. Christopherson draws attention to a very curious circumstance. The only defendant who did not appear at the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial in 1963 was Richard Baer, the successor of Rudolf Höss as commandant of Auschwitz. Though in perfect health, he died suddenly in prison before the trial had begun, “in a highly mysterious way” according to the newspaper; Deutsche Wochenzeitung (July 27th, 1973). Baer’s sudden demise before giving evidence is especially strange, since the Paris newspaper Rivarol recorded his insistence that “during the whole time in which he governed Auschwitz, he never saw any gas chambers nor believed that such things existed,” and from this statement nothing would dissuade him. In short, the Christopherson account adds to a mounting collection of evidence demonstrating that the giant industrial complex of Auschwitz (comprising thirty separate installations and divided by the main Vienna-Cracow railway line) was nothing but a vast war production centre, which, while admittedly employing the compulsory labour of detainees, was certainly not a place of “mass extermination”. Did Six Million Really Die? by Richard Harwood

                Comment by jrizoli — August 12, 2016 @ 1:50 pm

                • remind of one SS man who kept denying being present at the ramp until he was confronted to the famous photos from may 1945 where he could be seen there….

                  so ok, no gas chamber, then what happened to all the guys that didn’t get registered in the camp. cause as far as i know we have no records from trains leaving auschwitz for some other destinations with these people.
                  we have plenty of entry for trains coming but surprisingly no for the next journey!! don’t tell me these people evaporate just like smoke or that some magical dwarf shouted nach & nebel and they all disappeared.
                  and just as long as you denier aren’t able to answer that question, you are to be the liars, the hoax maker.and the testimonies, despite errors and some weirdness still reflect an image of the reality.
                  (speaking of contracdicting testimonies, how many of you here think that the paris bataclan attack is a hoax???? i’ve read the testimony of the cop that said to have shoot one of the guy and heard the testimony of a guy that got hold hostages, plenty of details do not match and only piece that fit is that one guy did blow himself up….. nah cant be true, they all have heard that fact on tv and like good sheeps repeated it but the rest of their story do not match….in fact every witness/actor somewhat gave a different story/numbers/time…. can only be a hoax)

                  Comment by vincluc — August 12, 2016 @ 4:02 pm

                • You wrote: “…what happened to all the guys that didn’t get registered in the camp. cause as far as i know we have no records from trains leaving auschwitz for some other destinations with these people.

                  I wrote about this on this section of my website:
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/Liberation.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2016 @ 4:11 pm

                • Actually they struck a deal with Torquemada. He’s always looking for deals on Jews . “The inquisition,let’s begin. The inquisition,look out sin,we got a mission,to convert the Jew . We’re gonna help them,see the light. We’re gonna teach them,wrong from right. We’re gonna make an offer,that they can’t refuse”.

                  Comment by Tim — August 12, 2016 @ 4:29 pm

                • You wrote: “Richard Baer (b. 1911) was commandant of Auschwitz I from May 11, 1944 and of Auschwitz II (Birkenau) from the end of 1944 until the evacuation of the camp in January 1945.”

                  I wrote about Richard Baer on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/Liberation.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2016 @ 4:16 pm

                • Furtherglory wrote:
                  “I wrote about this on this section of my website:
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/Liberation.html

                  ok i see so according to documents found from Richard Glücks office, only 173 000 jews were brought to auschwitz and that about 100 750 jews were transfered to other camps.

                  do that mean that we can consider, according to that source that only 72 250 were registered in auschwitz camp, or the transfered number also included jews that got attributed a number??

                  but that number is in contradiction to the one give by Leo Glasser who pretend that 104 000 hungarian jews were admitted in the camp during the mid may/ mid september period.

                  or do we have to believe that 273 750 jews were transported to auschwitz?? number that stoill contradict the number of about 400 000 hungarians jews that are said to have been transported to the camp.

                  but still, where are the proof that the people that were not allowed in the camp where transported elsewhere , where they would have been registered thanks to the tight buraucratic state.
                  we know for plenty of trains that they were a x number at start and that only a y number got registered from that train. it very curious that the deniers cant prove that the remaining z number got brought here or here on not a single occasion…. you can blame the bad luck that all documents concerning that part were totally destroyed i guess.

                  Comment by vincluc — August 13, 2016 @ 9:06 am

                • Get over the “numbers”. Damn Jews can’t even make up their minds how many Jews died. 6,4.5 or 2 million. They keep changing the number. Like I said,”the number of Jews that “actually” died,would make for one helluva a hedging program. Buy and sell the number of dead Jews like futures contracts. It be another way CME could make money on futures.

                  Comment by Tim — August 13, 2016 @ 9:35 am

                • tim wrote:
                  “Get over the “numbers”. Damn Jews can’t even make up their minds how many Jews died. 6,4.5 or 2 million. They keep changing the number. Like I said,”the number of Jews that “actually” died,would make for one helluva a hedging program. Buy and sell the number of dead Jews like futures contracts. It be another way CME could make money on futures.”

                  yep unfortunatly leo glaser seemed to be a good german boy as it was spotted as the end of the war in a ss uniform.
                  see here http://www.zchor.org/hungaria:

                  The matter was flagged up to me by Gabor Hirsch, now of Esslingen, Switzerland. Gabor raised with me several matters about his imprisonment in Auschwitz.

                  I left Glaser in Auschwitz on Christmas Eve 1944 in the first evacuation march to Loeslau (Wodzislaw Slaski). For the period 9th July to 24th Dec 1944 I was a runner (Laeufer) of the Capo Kleiderkammer, none other than Leo Glaser. Thereafter I had a very difficult four months being transported to Gross Rosen, Buchenwald, Mauthausen and by a forced march further to Gunskirchen. This was a very crowded forest camp without fences at which we were left to starve as we were basically not given any food, there was very little water, one tap served the whole camp of several thousand people. The camp was infested with lice and vermin.

                  On 4th May 1945 I was crawling on my belly at night trying to escape from this hellhole where we were left to slowly die. A guard stopped me and by coincidence it was Leo Glaser, now in SS uniform and carrying a rifle. Although it was night there was enough moonlight for us both to recognise one another. The erstwhile Capo of the Kleiderkammer had an atrophied right arm to make him easily recognisable. As he challenged me he asked what I was doing crawling through the forest. And I told him I was trying to escape. We could hear the artillery of the Americans by this time. He said that the countryside is full of armed men and that I should return to the camp for I would soon be freed. I however I asked him to give me some food. He said he was on guard duty and had nothing on him. He said to come again to this place tomorrow and he will bring me some food. I reluctantly took his advice and starved for another 24 hours. Next night I crawled out to the same place but he was not there. I saw a hut at the back of a clearing and went there. This hut was obviously where the guards were quartered. The hut appeared to have been abandoned in a hurry. There was no food there. I went back to the camp and the first person I met was Honza Polak whom I knew from Theresienstadt. Honza now lives in Frankfurt and we are still in touch. I told him that the guards are gone and we are free to leave the camp and so we walked out into the night free on the evening of 5th May 1945.

                  also that 6millions or 2 millions jews got killed do not really matter when you have people trying to say that nobody got killed, that this is a hoax and that people got send elsewhere.

                  Comment by vincluc — August 14, 2016 @ 7:21 am

                • I’ve never seen your name here before ( then again it’s within the realm of possibilities,you may have been here all,but you’re using different alias. Lot of people here do that), so I’ll run this by you. I don’t hate the individual Jew ( there’s a few people here that do). I hate the Jewish collective mind. When I first found this site,first thing I thought,”another group of Jew haters”. My moma was raised in depression era Alabama. The ” The White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan” owned that state back then. She was raised around that shit and she detested racism to no end. Daddy was raised on a dairy farm in Pennsylvania. He was never exposed to blacks ( or any other race for that matter) or any other race for that matter,until he entered the Army Air Corps ( it was the Air Force when he retired out back in ’70). So he couldn’t relate to growing up in a racist environment. I served with a man when I did my tour in Southeast Asia. Jeff Krulik ( not sure about spelling of his last name) was a man I served with. He was on his second tour when I got there. He was Jewish . Damn fine man. I kicked and screamed until I got infantry in Vietnam. My family is all military. Did jungle training at Ft. Polk. The whole time there,I had my “big brass balls” attitude. That attitude dropped real quick my first patrol we went on. If it wasn’t for Sgt. Wolf ( that was Jeffs nickname. He said he wa called “wolf” since his childhood. He can’t even recall how he got that moniker hung on him ),I’d probably be another name on The Wall. He taught my sorry ass how to stay alive. I’ve not known that many Jews,but he was a damn good one. I lived in South Florida when I got back from Nam. Jew paradise there. I found out, the prevailing Jew attitude towards other races,was one that was loathsome. Blacks,Haitians,to name a few,they couldn’t stand them. I still didn’t really raise an eyebrow towards the Jews,till I found this site. FG isn’t the host of a hate filled site. She’s here to educate. Regardless of her point of view on the holo,she welcomes both sides here ( go find an AB if you wanna see a group that “hates” Jews. If Earl Krugel were still alive,he’d give you a confirmation on that). Numbers were what I first started questioning here. I figured out,FG don’t run a “Jew hating site”. How can I take the plight of the Jews seriously,when they want to keep changing numbers up? 6,4.5 or 2 million. They can’t make up their mind how many Jews died? Thats some sad shit. From where I stand,that’s a flat out lie on their part. I’m not gonna make that as my foundation,for my argument,as to wether this shit happened or not. Far as I’m concerned,there’s too many conflicting facts out there,for me to choose a side here. That’s why I always jab fun at “trading the number of dead Jews like a commodity”. The number changes so damned much. I went on blind faith,when it came to topic. Blind Faith was also why I volunteered for Nam. I get over there and found out it was a lie. Every since then,I tend to take a lot of shit,with a grain of salt. The only reason I kept buying into the holo,was because I figured there’s no way any group of people would lie about something,as heinous as this. The more I check into this topic looking for answers,the more I find questions. Everything on this subject ,all started with the numbers for me. So from where I’m at,the numbers “do” matter . The Jews offer up other pieces of evidence,that are much more complex than numbers. They’ll swear up and down,all the details for that other shit,are an exact accounting. For some reason or another though,the number of dead,just totally escapes their asses. So numbers seem like a logical place to start. If they can’t even get something that simple straight,how am I supposed to accept the other shit they call facts

                  Comment by Tim — August 14, 2016 @ 9:38 am

                • There were not as many Jews in the camps as they want you to believe…most left before the war.
                  Good estimate out of the 350,000 that were said to be in the camps and died, of all causes, half of them might of been Jews.
                  I actually think there were much less because of how many survived to collect their reparations money.
                  If you want to find out where they went ask the ones that survived…..millions survived so they must have some story to tell when not inventing a Horror Disneyland story.

                  JR
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                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — August 14, 2016 @ 9:42 am

              • You wrote: “the gas chambers existed. Their observations would be invaluable for future generations to show what happens when someone like Adolf Hitler comes to power.”

                You are correct — the gas chambers did exist. When American soldiers liberated Dachau, the prisoners led them to the gas chambers. I wrote about the Dachau gas chambers on my website at
                http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/GasChamber/disinfection01.html

                Comment by furtherglory — August 12, 2016 @ 4:21 pm

    • When you mention that,Von Braun comes to mind. If he was involved in any of the shit everyone says happened,why wasn’t he put on trial? Kennedy had a hard on for wanting to make it to the moon,before the Reds did. Doing the right thing,would’ve cramped Jacks style there. Then again,his father was one of the biggest criminals going,so Jack may not have known wrong from right,if it bit him in the ass. Joe pulled every shady deal to get his son elected president. Joe had his buddy Sam Giancana get the West Virginia and Chicago vote for Jack. I read Joe was handing out 20 dollar bills. They called them “Kennedy campaign buttons”. With a family like that,they can’t even spell “Justice “. There’s no way in hell Jack would let anyone come for his golden boy, Von Braun

      Comment by Tim — August 12, 2016 @ 10:36 am


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