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September 10, 2016

Memories of 9-11

Filed under: TV shows, Uncategorized — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 7:44 am

The anniversary of 9/11, one of the saddest days in American history.

The 9-11 attack

The first tower that was hit in the 9-11 attack

 As smoke billows from the north tower, the second hijacked plane bears down on the south tower

As smoke billows from the north tower, the second hijacked plane bears down on the south tower

On the morning of 9-11, I woke up, as usual, around 6:30 in the morning and immediately turned on the TV set in my bedroom. The first thing that I saw, on TV, was images of the twin towers in New York City as they were hit by planes.

I immediately called my daughter and told her to stay inside because America was under attack. I assumed that we were being attacked by a foreign country. Why would anyone in America attack these famous buildings in New York city? Including Building 7, which was empty.

Later, it was learned that Building 7 had been wired to come down safely, and no one was hurt. All three buildings were owned by the same man, who stayed home that day because he had a doctor’s appointment. Normally, he would have been having breakfast in a room at the top of one of the towers that was hit.

I have written many blog posts about this sad event, including this one about the memorial ceremonies:

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/911-memorial-ceremonies/

There were many strange things about the 9/11 attack, but none more strange than the story of Barbara Olsen, a well known person:

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/barbara-olson-a-victim-of-the-911-terrorist-attack/

Strangely, Barbara Olsen disappeared and was never heard from again.

I wrote this blog post about an interview that Megyn Kelly did  with Ward Churchill, in which the 9/11 attack was mentioned:

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/09/09/megyn-kellys-interview-with-ward-churchill-on-fox-news/

I wrote another blog post, in which the story of Ward Churchill continues. This blog post has lots of links which add to the story:

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/09/11/2nd-part-of-megyn-kellys-interview-with-ward-churchill/

There were many stories about the 3,000 Jews who allegedly stayed home that and did not go to work in their offices in the 9/11 buildings.  However, this news article defends the Jews and claims that the Jews DID go to work on 9/11 and that there were several Jews who died in the attack:

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/israel/were-4000-jews-told-to-stay-home-on-911.htm

Where was George Bush, the president of the United States, when the 9/11 attack happened? He was in a school classroom in Texas, reading to little children, when he was told that America was under attack.

The Pentagon was also hit, but strangely no one was killed.

104 Comments »

  1. @Hermie:
    Jeff wrote: “That’s a fascinating observation but there aren’t 20 million Jews alive RIGHT NOW, much less at the end of the war.”

    “According to rabbi Arthur Hertzberg, without Jewish conversions to other religions, there would be 100 million Jews in the world today.”

    So what? I’ve read something similar that states if Judiasm actively promoted conversion the numbers would be similar.
    Who cares?

    “Everybody sees his own holocaust through his/her own lens (through a rabbi’s lens, Jewish religious desertion is unsurprisingly a catastrophe)”

    Understandable. Most religions would feel the same way.

    “and can throw any number in one direction or the other in order to ‘prove’ his/her point. There is nothing easier than substracting or adding 6 million (or any other number) of a group of things or people in a column of statistical data.”

    Except that people are real and have to be accounted for. Europe before the war was the center of Judiasm, more Jews lived in Europe than any place on earth. Especially in Eastern Europe, there were Jewish Communities that had lasted for centuries. I believe Vilnius was considered the “Second Jerusalem” (I could be wrong about that, I’m going strictly by memory). So, the numbers were well established because of the longevity of those settlements. If you say otherwise you have to prove it.

    Jeff wrote: “Yes….except they had to house and feed them. Utter nonsense, have any proof of this? Or are you going to fall back on “Wah, leave me alone, I don’t have to prove anything to you!!!!””

    “Do you think that British General Frederick Morgan (Director of the planning for Operation Overlord and Chief of Operations for the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration (UNRRA) in Germany) talked about “a second Exodus” of epic proportions only to be fired?”

    Again, so what? What does “epic proportions” mean? What numbers, exactly, was he talking about? Where did these Jews go? Isreal? The United States? Please provide exact numbers with proof.

    Jeff wrote: “WTF are you talking about? Hermie, I’m commenting on a Holocaust denier’s blog, not preaching to the masses.”

    “Do you spend dozens of hours per week commenting on this blog because you believe that nobody reads (or will ever read) what you write? C’mon. Don’t be ridiculous. You’re a propagandist and you know it.”

    I comment here because it amuses me to do so. I also comment and write posts for the Skeptics Forum. I do both because it gives me something interesting to do when I am bored. I also comment here because I don’t want some innocent newb to read this without knowing any better.
    What does it say about you, Hermie? You comment here as well, doesn’t that make you a propagandist?

    Jeff wrote: “Oh, gee, I feel the burn. Please. As if you could hurt my feelings by calling me names.”

    “I never intended to hurt your feelings. You missed my point. You call me names such as ‘denier’, so I can you names such ‘Holohoaxster.’ Belittling names for belittling names. Mere payback.”

    How nice. Don’t give a shit.

    Jeff wrote: “Hermie, I once had a very large man threaten to fuck me up in front of a judge and a sheriff’s deputy. I investigated child abuse cases and food stamp fraud. During that time I had far, far worse people than you call me far, far worse names than “holohoaxer” or “holocaustian.” So, calling me something goofy like “holohoaxer” means nothing to me.”

    “I could care less about your life.”

    Aaaaaawwwww, that hurts.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    Jeff wrote: “You and the other deniers aren’t revisionists. You are deniers. Why would I call you revisionists?”

    “Maybe because you have enough reliable evidence on your side for not having to use pathetic tricks such as the belittlement of your opponents with names?”

    Really? The whole “Holohoax” crap is what made me go back to deniers. Easier and quicker to spell, plus, I see no reason to extend courtesy where it is not warranted.

    Jeff wrote: “Yeah, that doesn’t really matter.”

    “Yes, the fact that the Zionist clique ‘informed’ the world about the realization of its return prophecy (‘You shall return minus 6 million’) during WW2 probably doesn’t matter. Probably just a coincidence.”

    You know, for an atheist you know a lot of religious stuff. Again, I simply don’t care, it has no relevance to the real world. Only deniers and the uninformed dribble on about “6 million,” the highest JEWISH source I can find is 5.9 million. Most sources I’ve seen or read place the number between 5-6 million. Reitlinger puts the number at 4.8, Hillberg, 5.1, Snyder, 5.5. It depends on the researcher/writer.

    Jeff wrote: “For the millionth time, I’m not accusing anyone of anything.”

    “Indeed.”

    Indeed, I’m not accusing the German populace.

    “You’re only accusing the entire German people of an unparalleled mass murder”

    Horse shit. That’s like accusing all ethnic Russians of the Holdomor. I blame Stalin and his minions of that, I blame the Holocaust on Hitler and his minions. See, same coin, different sides.

    “and Christendom”

    Very old school. Nice.

    “of passive complicity in that mass murder.”

    Who said anything about passive complicity?
    People helped where they could. For example, the Italians resisted deporting their Jews until the Germans occupied their country. The Pope hid Jews on his and church estates. The Hungarians protected their Jews until occupation, but even Horthy halted the deportations due to international pressure in July 1944.
    Jews suffered the most in countries the Germans directly controlled, Poland and the occupied areas of the USSR.

    “Not a big deal. A deal big enough to give a land with other legitimate owners (and a carte blanche for colonization) to Jewry. But not such a big deal after all.”

    Yeah, took them long enough. The war ended in May of 1945, Israel founded in 1948.

    “6-million-shekel question: At Nuremberg, what was the name of the guys promoting the Holohoax theory? Prosecutors. And what is a prosecutor if not an accuser?”

    I’m not prosecuting anyone, this isn’t a courtroom. Or, do you believe you are in a courtroom right now?????
    😱

    “Stop fleeing your obvious status of accuser. ”

    I don’t have to “flee” from anything, this idea that I am an “accuser” or a “prosecutor” is laughable.

    “Laughable and too patently a trick just intended to refuse a due and logical burden of proof.”

    No, what I want is some verifiable proof from deniers that what they believe in isn’t some lunatic dream.

    “Why would a guy (or a group of guys) with ‘mountains of evidence’ to prove his (their) case, obstinately refuse a normal burden of proof? Suspect. Very suspect…”

    What’s suspect is your refusal or inability to provide me the proof I am asking for.

    Jeff wrote: “If you believe that these FACTS are incorrect then it is necessary to PROVE it, not simply duck and dodge me when I request proof.””

    “I have debunked your so-called evidence often enough.”

    Really? When?

    “The sight of yourself no longer daring to bring up your dear testimonial ‘evidence’ and graphic typhus pics in order to emotionally ‘prove’ your case, is a victory in itself.”

    That’s hysterical. When have I solely relied on testimony or typhus pics?

    “What’s left in your Holohoax propaganda armoury but pathetic capitals and reverse burden of proof?”

    Oh. OK. 😂
    We can start over again, if you’d like. I didn’t really have an interest in wasting my time but if you’d like to have another go….

    Jeff wrote: “No, I’ll just keep asking until you provide something or admit you have nothing.”

    “I have provided more refutations of your bogus evidence than those you coud serenely cope with.”

    It’s funny how delusional you are.
    How’s the whole “Rudenko’s Camps” thing working out for you?
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    Jeff wrote: “Sorry, untrue right back at you. Every denier…and I mean EVERY DENIER….that I’ve dealt with is anti-Semitic. Every one. It would be a unique experience to meet a denier that was not. That bias is so ingrained in you and others it is impossible to separate it from the core belief of denial. Because of this deeply ingrained bias it is impossible for you or any other denier to be objective when examining evidence.”

    “Your confessed onw bias (in a pro-Jewish direction) destroys your nice theory.”

    Pro-Jewish?

    “Is it possible for a Jewish/Zionist or pro-Jewish/pro-Zionist historian (i.e. 99.9%, if not 100%, of academic historians) to be objective when examining ‘Holocaust evidence’?”
    Or is a bias in that specific direction just not disturbing and problematic as far as objectivity is concerned?”

    Force the issue, then. Prove where the Jews went, the ones you say didn’t die. If any denier out there can actually provide proof of this they will be on the way to proving the whole thing was a “hoax.”

    Jeff wrote: “Horse shit. It makes deniers incapable of reason.”

    “You wouldn’t have such hard times with me if I was incapable of reason.”

    Hard times? Hermie, the crap you spew lightens my day. You’re one of the reasons I haven’t left for good.

    Jeff wrote: “WTF does that have to do with anything? Did Darwin say he hated Christians and wanted to see them all dead? Did Darwin ascribe whacked out conspiracies to Christians?”

    “Everybody has biases, including Darwin.”

    Yep, that’s true.

    “But the study of Darwin’s biases is a topic for sociologists, not for biologists.”

    True.

    “If Holohoaxsters spent less time fantasizing about revisionists’ motives, they could perhaps debate with them and address their arguments.”

    Fantasizing?
    Why debate people who have no proof and are blatant racists?

    “Their “You are just disgusting subhuman heretics” stand is the attitude of liars trying to hide something which is unabe to stand scrutiny and open debate.”

    Uh, no, they don’t want to legitimize hacks. That’s like a geographer debating a flat earther.

    Jeff wrote: “Kinda like impugning real or imaginary dark motives to Jews?”

    “Neither imaginary, nor dark. Know the difference between a Jew or a philosemite and an antisemite?”

    I can’t say I really give a shit but I’ll humor you.

    “A Jew or a philosemite rejoices at Jewish domination while an antisemite deplores it.”

    Uh huh.

    “And Jews and philosemites don’t consider Jewish Messianic world domination a dark think.”

    Uh huh.

    “They consider it a very good thing, a thing for everybody’s sake, just like parents’ domination is/was considered as a good thing beneficial to a whole family.”

    Uh huh. 😂

    Jeff wrote: “See, that hurts. I thought you and I were buds. I was thinking about looking you up if/when I came to Europe so that we could grab a beer. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂”

    “I’m sure you’ll be able to make it through. I don’t doubt you’ll quickly find a synagogue and lots of friends there when you come to Europe.”

    Why would I go to a synagogue?

    Jeff wrote: “Wow, a budding Communist. I thought that would be incompatible with your world view.”

    “Not all Socialisms are Communistic and/or Jew-owned. Some Socialisms, especially a specific one, gave some hard times to Jews and Communists.”

    Which one was that??😂

    “Communism was not a real Socialism.”

    I don’t disagree with that statement.

    “That was a bamboozlement of workers and peasants”

    Ok.

    “intended to advance the Jewish domineering agenda.”

    😂

    Communism is supposed to be a higher form of Socialism, in practice it devolved into one party dictatorships that stripped everyone not a party member of their rights. It communalized society but at the detriment of both workers and peasants. It was allegedly left wing, the reality is it simply created a new ruling class.

    Where, exactly, does some nebulous “Jewish Agenda” fit into all this?

    “Communism didn’t fail as alleged.”

    Yeah, it did. It collapsed under the weight of its inefficiencies and contradictions.

    “It was always planned as a mere way to fill mass graves with Gentile bodies and install a new Jewish aristocracy on ‘thrones,’ using naive workers and peasant’s weight as a weapon.”

    That’s hysterical.
    Hermie, Stalin started the process of purging Jews from the upper echelons of the Communist Party in the 30’s. He replace them with ethnic Russians and Georgians. Boy, that Jewish agenda worked really well, didn’t it?

    Jeff wrote: “That makes no sense whatsoever. WTF would I moon over Moses…..? Oh, wait. You think I’m a Jew. Ok.”

    “You’re supposed to be a Catholic. So you’re supposed to moon over Moses.”

    Why? Did you miss the part where I’ve repeatedly said I’m no longer a practicing Catholic? I haven’t been in a church in years.

    “Stop ruining your so ingenious cover.”

    Oh, sorry. I’m supposed to play along.
    Yes, I’m a Jew. Because you’ve blown my cover your bank account will be seized and the women in your family will be sold into slavery. Better get the lube out, here comes the Mossad.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    Jeff wrote: “I simply admire what they did. It took courage.”

    “Stop wasting your time with that. They died hundreds of years ago. So they just need to be forgotten. according to your own ‘argument.’”

    What those men did was admirable. What Hitler did was deplorable. That’s the difference.

    Jeff wrote: “Right back at you, Mr. Carbon Dioxide isn’t dangerous. I could be wrong about that, do me a solid and test that out with a few of your denier friends. I suggest an air tight room…”

    “We, me and my denier friends, just need to talk about carbon dioxide as a good or even workable poison gas for mass slaughter and wait for the big laughters of the science community.”

    You mean you aren’t willing to test your theory that Carbon Dioxide isn’t deadly? That shows a lack of commitment on your part.

    Jeff wrote: “How’s this for code words: http://www.historiography-project.com/nca/nca06/3428-PS.php (Translation into English)”

    “What kind of historian don’t even try to provide originals of his claims? Oh yeah, a crook. Now I remember…”

    What kind of a person can’t provide proof that what they say is true?
    Oh, yeah, a Holocaust denier.
    Prove its a forgery or stop wasting my time.

    Jeff wrote: “German and English: https://web.archive.org/web/20150325081826/http://holocaust-history.org/19420605-rauff-spezialwagen/”

    “Debunked letter.

    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=73

    Yes, because CODOH is an unimpeachable source.
    😂
    Try this:

    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/contemporary-german-documents-on.html?m=1

    Gas vans are surprisingly well documented, Hermie. Please provide proof that each of these documents is forged.

    Jeff wrote: “https://web.archive.org/web/20150323222918/http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/”

    “Already forgotten the epic debunking of your dear einschießvorrichtung?”

    You, debunk anything? Please. Horse shit and denier twist of plain words.

    “If you want people to stop regarding you as a Hasbara troll, stop drawing links from the list provided by your employers like a dumb robot.”

    I don’t give a fuck how people regard me.
    Yes, my employers. We discussed you at our last meeting. We’ve decided to send random members of “The Tribe” over to your place of employment, your favorite bar, your house and your “I love Hitler” meetings you hold every week to randomly jump out and you and bare their fangs.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    👻
    Boo!!!! I’m a Jew!!!!!!
    😂

    Jeff wrote: “http://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/works/jaeger-report/htm/img001.htm.en.html”

    “The Soviets found the Jaeger ‘report’ 15 years after the alleged event. Stop polluting the world with your Soviet friends’ gross forgeries.”

    Prove its a forgery.
    Hermie, the Jaeger Report flies in the face of Soviet policy, that of not “dividing the dead.” You’ve acknowledged that policy yourself.
    So, why would they forge a document that divided the dead?

    “There would be a simple way to know. Let’s open and examine those alleged mass graves. If the Zionist clique could exhume and transfer to Palestine the dead body of their beloved leader Theodor Herzl without a word of protest from any rabbi (including from the Zionist ones), why should a distorted Jewish law be allowed to obstruct research any longer?”

    In a way I agree with you. However, not my call.

    Jeff wrote: “http://holocaustcontroversies.yuku.com/topic/1894”

    “Does anybody still believe that women’s hair “was cut off after gassing”?”

    At Auschwitz-Birkenau it was. The Reinhard Camps cut the hair off women before they were gassed.

    “Women’s lousy hair were of course deloused with poison gas before they could be used for industrial purposes. For obvious reasons, the Germans didn’t want to ship typhus-carrying lice by train.”

    Except that the hair was clean and dried by heat. This was done by hanging it above the actual crematorium and allowing the heat from the furnace to do this.
    Lice die when they are separated from their host because they need human blood to live, Hermie. Also, the head louse is harmless, it’s the body louse that carries the disease.

    “And too bad the galvanization process produces zinc-cyanide. No surprise to find cyanide in pieces of galvanized zinc.

    All that assuming a Polish-Soviet Communist study means anything…”

    Of course. Um, who else was supposed to investigate the camps?

    Jeff wrote: “Really? Childish and stupid is saying: “Wah!!!! We don’t have to give you proof!!!!!! Go away mean person!!!!!””

    “Debunking an accuser’s ‘proof’ is a proof in itself.”

    Nope, sure isn’t.

    “At least, it is in normal courts of justice. For understandable and obvious reasons. Stop pretending you don’t understand that. Ridiculous.”

    What I understand is that you have no proof. Sucks to be you.

    Jeff wrote: “You know, I think you should share your view about humans with the university you graduated from. You have a degree in biology, right? I think it might entitle you with a refund from them since you didn’t learn a fucking thing. Wait, is Belgium one of those countries where you get a free education? If so, how nice. I worked my way through school. If it was free, why, you just benefited from a society that provided you with that free education. In other words, you benefited from the two things you profess to despise the most, democracy and capitalism. How does it feel to be a fucking hypocrite? If you did have to pay for it you wasted your money and, more importantly, your professor’s time.”

    “Go out and have a cry. Stop ridiculing yourself as an emotional angry child. A bit of self-esteem please. Embarrassing.”

    I only cry after sex. Your mom and sister can confirm this.

    Comment by Jeff K. — September 15, 2016 @ 3:52 pm

    • Are Jews a race or religion? I ask because it said,”without Jews converting to other religions”. Something along those lines. So if they switch brands to another religion,they’re no longer Jews .

      It seems like they’re a race to me. Converting from one religion to another,don’t change your race. Besides the last time I heard a Jew called,”a white boy”, he made it clear he was a Jew,not a white boy.

      Comment by Tim — September 15, 2016 @ 4:44 pm

      • Depends on the Jews considering it, Tim. Some Jews, especially Zionists, regard Jews as a race. Other Jews, especially Assimilationists such as the American Council for Judaism and Edwin Montagu, regard Jews as a religion.

        Father of US Zionism Rabbi Stephen S. Wise: “Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race”.

        Assimilationist Jew Edwin Montagu, to British Prime Minister Lloyd George about his support for Zionism : “All my life I have been trying to get out of the ghetto. You want to force me back there.”

        Montagu was Britain’s Secretary of State for India and he was understandably not planning to lose the benefits of being mistakenly regarded as a British for the sole sake of a few Jewish settlements in barren Palestine.

        Comment by hermie — September 15, 2016 @ 9:06 pm

        • You wrote: “Some Jews, especially Zionists, regard Jews as a race.”

          How does one convert to a race? If a person who is not Jewish marries a Jew and converts, have they changed their race?

          Comment by furtherglory — September 16, 2016 @ 7:17 am

          • Futherglory: “How does one convert to a race? If a person who is not Jewish marries a Jew and converts, have they changed their race?”

            Zionists are racists and nationalists. They don’t want to see Jews marry non-Jews. Remember the recent indignant protest from a Mizrachi (i.e. orthodox religious Zionist) leader after Wolowitz married Bernadette in the Big Bang Theory? The guy didn’t request Bernadette’s conversion to Judaism. He requested that TV shows stop encouraging such despicable behaviors.

            If Jews are not a race (or a group of races, ethnic ‘tribes’), how can such a thing as an atheist Jew even exist? We’re often told about atheist Jews. I would not even consider myself as an atheist Christian. An atheist with a Christian cultural background at best. But not an atheist Christian. Makes no sense. But everybody knows Christianity is not a race and nobody would call himself a Christian atheist.

            Comment by hermie — September 16, 2016 @ 8:40 am

            • And the Jews are not racist ( so they say).

              Comment by Tim — September 16, 2016 @ 8:47 am

              • Tim wrote: “And the Jews are not racist ( so they say).”

                Sarcastic?

                Comment by hermie — September 16, 2016 @ 9:20 am

                • Hard truth going incognito as sarcasm ( don’t wanna hurt anyone’s feelings now,do we ?) Go spend some time in South Florida ( Jew paradise). Listen to how the Hebs speak of Haitians,African Americans, Jamaicans and Cubans. Some of what they say,would make a Klansman blush.

                  I figure we’re all stuck in this toilet earth,try to make the best of it.,

                  I’m finding out more and more,the Jews think nothing in this world should affect them,the way it does general population.

                  Comment by Tim — September 16, 2016 @ 9:54 am

                • Tim wrote: “the Jews think nothing in this world should affect them,the way it does general population.”

                  The essence of ‘Chosenism.’

                  Comment by hermie — September 17, 2016 @ 6:26 am

                • You wrote: “Tim wrote: “the Jews think nothing in this world should affect them,the way it does general population.”

                  The essence of ‘Chosenism.’
                  End quote

                  I think that the The essence of ‘Chosenism.’ is the opposite. The Jews feel that they should be treated BETTER than the goyim because they are the CHOSEN.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 17, 2016 @ 7:19 am

                • That’s why I say after God created everything,he decided to hoist a few cold ones. 3 days later he sobered up and said,”I picked who to be my chosen?”

                  Hindsight being 20/20,he’s probably thinking,”the Pagans may have been a better way to go after all”

                  Comment by Tim — September 17, 2016 @ 7:24 am

                • The more I find out about Jews,the more I think about Gods perspective on this. I say God sobered up after a 3 day bender and said,”I picked who for my chosen people?”

                  This has little to do with Jews,but do you remember “Sambos” restaurant? I ask,because I’m still trying to make the connection between , the Sambos mascot and racism.

                  The mascot from Sambos,was a little boy from India,not Africa . Hell India and Africa are like 5,000 miles apart.

                  You’re the journalist . You remember anything from back in the day,when all this shit started about Sambos being racist?

                  Comment by Tim — September 17, 2016 @ 11:08 am

                • You wrote: “You’re the journalist . You remember anything from back in the day,when all this shit started about Sambos being racist?”

                  There used to be a restaurant, named Sambo’s, in the city where I lived. It was one of my favorite places because it served German food. It was not only closed, but the whole building was torn down because black people protested against the name.
                  http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/30/pancakes-and-pickaninnies-the-saga-of-sambo-s-the-racist-restaurant-chain-america-once-loved.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 17, 2016 @ 11:15 am

                • That’s why everyone got bent out of shape at Sambos. I don’t know if this one is the same one as the restaurant chain I’m talking about. Their mascot was a little cartoon boy from India . He had a tiger for a sidekick. Why they would think a little boy from India named Sambo,has anything to do with race (or Africa ) is beyond me.

                  I’m not trying to make something out of,what’s probably nothing,but every since I’ve been reading your site,I’ve seen how people can take shit,and work it to their advantage. I mean you got holo laws so people can’t think freely anymore. People get bent out of shape over the name of a restaurant,when it’s making something outta nothing. I remember blacks in Sambos when I’d go there . There were also Hispanics there too. Don’t look like they were bothered by it either.

                  Comment by Tim — September 17, 2016 @ 1:19 pm

                • Furtherglory wrote: “I think that the The essence of ‘Chosenism.’ is the opposite. The Jews feel that they should be treated BETTER than the goyim because they are the CHOSEN.”

                  Not the opposite of what I said. Their ‘Chosenism’ makes Jews resent any non-preferential treatment as a shameful insult. Easy to imagine their deep anger about discriminatory measures against their Chosen asses. Since they can’t put it that way and just say that they feel they should be treated as a master race without demolishing their deceptive cover of egalitarian democracy lovers, they don’t need to make much effort to darken the picture of such a state of affairs. A breeze with the propaganda organs they own and control.

                  Comment by hermie — September 17, 2016 @ 7:38 pm

                • If you really wanna f–k with a Jew tell him ( or her) this. In the bible ( I think it’s Ephesians ) it talks about God taking Jew and Gentile and making one new man. I’ve heard people say, that means that Israel and the church will become one.

                  The Jews will fight you on it probably. The thought of them mixing with lower life forms,is probably unacceptable .

                  Comment by Tim — September 17, 2016 @ 8:33 pm

                • Maybe you could give them the quote from ” Don Quixote”.

                  “A bad year and a bad month to all the backbiting bitches in the world”.

                  Comment by Tim — September 18, 2016 @ 6:51 am

        • A Jew verbally admitted Hitler was right about something ? Tell FG this is her cue to step in and say,”stop the presses”?

          Even God refers to the Jews as a race. The Hebs got their own country. I can’t think of any group of people that got their own country,based on religion. Now Joe Smith moved his Mormons to Utah,but the state has never been exclusively a Mormon state.

          Let me ask you this. The bible tells us,God pretty guaranteed the Jews getting Israel . I accept what the good book says,but I read where someone made the comment that,the Jews getting Israel was a fluke of history ( that’s not verbatim,but close enough). Where do you stand on that ?

          Israel being a fluke,makes perfect sense to me. They use Gods word to back it up,but the whole thing is a bit hinkey to me,due to the timing. Who’s gonna deny the Jews their own bit of real estate ,after they’d been through,what history says supposedly happened to them. The shit is starting to look more political,than biblical to me.

          I ran across something else I found interesting. David Duke said,” Italian Mafia only represents a small portion of organized crime. Normally I wouldn’t listen to what David Duke says. He’s an ex Klansman ( from where I stand,there’s no such thing as an ex Klansman. Especially considering how high David was on the corporate ladder in the Klan). Duke makes some pretty good points about this. He mentioned something about that wiki leak shit. He said a message was sent to the FBI from our embassy in Israel ,warning them,that Hebs were a major concern when it came to organized crime. The memo to the FBI mentioned forged passports and other documents,being common place with those little bitches at the mossad. Things if that nature.

          It’s on YouTube. You’ll have to see it for yourself. Make your own determination.

          Comment by Tim — September 16, 2016 @ 8:17 am

          • Tim wrote: “A Jew verbally admitted Hitler was right about something ? Tell FG this is her cue to step in and say,”stop the presses”? ”

            And not any Jew. The US leader of the anti-German agitation and boycott (together with Zionist leader Samuel Untermyer) in the 1930s and 1940s, as well as the rabbi who first told America about the ‘Holocaust’ (in November 1942), himself !! Rabbi Wise was also the Zionist leader who kick-started the 6-million figure in the 20th century.

            “There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.” – Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, New York Times, June 11, 1900.

            Tim wrote: “Let me ask you this. The bible tells us, God pretty guaranteed the Jews getting Israel . I accept what the good book says,but I read where someone made the comment that, the Jews getting Israel was a fluke of history ( that’s not verbatim,but close enough). Where do you stand on that ? Israel being a fluke, makes perfect sense to me. They use Gods word to back it up,but the whole thing is a bit hinkey to me, due to the timing. Who’s gonna deny the Jews their own bit of real estate ,after they’d been through, what history says supposedly happened to them. The shit is starting to look more political, than biblical to me.”

            Jewish scriptures say that God must bring his people back to the Holy Land. Some Jews oppose Zionism because of the fact that some men did/do that. They think that God, rather than political activists such as Zionists, must allow Jews to return to Palestine and fulfill their Messianic prophecy of return and world domination.

            Comment by hermie — September 16, 2016 @ 9:10 am

  2. Jeff wrote: “Says a guy who can’t provide any sort of proof where the Jews went. Talk about defying the laws of physics……

    “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.” The victors of 1945 could have created an additional 20 million Jews out of thin air”

    That’s a fascinating observation but there aren’t 20 million Jews alive RIGHT NOW, much less at the end of the war.

    “as easily as they could make 5-6 million Jews vanish in the night and fog of their politically-motivated bamboozlement.”

    Yes….except they had to house and feed them. Utter nonsense, have any proof of this? Or are you going to fall back on “Wah, leave me alone, I don’t have to prove anything to you!!!!”

    “Don’t [pretend to] be naive.”

    Please. I lost my naïveté years ago.

    “Asserting things in rigged trials is easy. Proving such things is less easy.”

    Proved over and over again, time and time again. The only ones with no proof are deniers.

    “That’s probably the reason why they didn’t even try to prove it.”

    See above. You and the other deniers are the ones that lack proof.

    “You can keep posturing like a guru who reveals a truth from his pulpit if you want to. You’ll even have some followers. But you’re still a guru capitalizing on people’s gullibility nevertheless.”

    WTF are you talking about?
    Hermie, I’m commenting on a Holocaust denier’s blog, not preaching to the masses.

    Jeff wrote: “You mean like holocaustians? Holohoaxers?”

    “Yes, like those. I’ll keep using ridiculing names as long as Holohoaxsters keep calling me a denier. Don’t like the taste of your medicine, Jeff?”

    Oh, gee, I feel the burn.

    Please. As if you could hurt my feelings by calling me names.

    Hermie, I once had a very large man threaten to fuck me up in front of a judge and a sheriff’s deputy.
    I investigated child abuse cases and food stamp fraud. During that time I had far, far worse people than you call me far, far worse names than “holohoaxer” or “holocaustian.”
    So, calling me something goofy like “holohoaxer” means nothing to me.

    Jeff wrote: “Well, that’s big talk coming from a cult that vilifies me as a holocaustian.”

    “Says the guy unable to use the word ‘revisionist’ during more than 3 days.”

    You and the other deniers aren’t revisionists. You are deniers. Why would I call you revisionists?

    Jef wrote: “Very well, for the millionth time, prove where the Jews went and I’ll believe you. I can’t believe fairy tales of mystical camps in the USSR….in the middle of a war zone….a famine zone. How is that believable?”

    “For the 6 millionth time, prove those Jews died as Zionists ‘prophesied’ for 7 decades prior to WW II”

    Yeah, that doesn’t really matter.

    “and as any normal accuser would do,”

    For the millionth time, I’m not accusing anyone of anything. The Holocaust and the other atrocities committed by the Nazis are historical FACTS. If you believe that these FACTS are incorrect then it is necessary to PROVE it, not simply duck and dodge me when I request proof.

    “or just concede you’re a mere religious believer posturing like a historian.”

    No, I’ll just keep asking until you provide something or admit you have nothing.

    Jeff wrote: “Well, that’s the core of denial.”

    “Untrue.”

    Sorry, untrue right back at you. Every denier…and I mean EVERY DENIER….that I’ve dealt with is anti-Semitic. Every one. It would be a unique experience to meet a denier that was not. That bias is so ingrained in you and others it is impossible to separate it from the core belief of denial. Because of this deeply ingrained bias it is impossible for you or any other denier to be objective when examining evidence.

    “And even if true, still irrelevant and unrelated to revisionist argumentation (for the reason explained above)”

    Horse shit. It makes deniers incapable of reason.

    ” just like Darwin’s feelings toward Christianity didn’t change the validity of his arguments.”

    WTF does that have to do with anything? Did Darwin say he hated Christians and wanted to see them all dead? Did Darwin ascribe whacked out conspiracies to Christians?

    “Impugning real or imaginary dark motives to an opponent is a well-known fallacy most of time exposing the weakness of its users’ arguments.”

    Kinda like impugning real or imaginary dark motives to Jews?

    Jeff wrote: “I’ll admit to bias, I loath political theory that denigrates or minimizes any human life, regardless of what it is. Stalinism, National Socialism, Maoism, whatever it is. All the same thing, different slogans.”

    “I don’t care about the reasons of your bias. I’m not your psychiatrist,”

    You’d make a pretty fucked up psychiatrist.

    “confident or friend.”

    See, that hurts. I thought you and I were buds. I was thinking about looking you up if/when I came to Europe so that we could grab a beer.
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    “And thank you for the childish political analysis. Very funny. ”

    You have an odd sense of humor.

    “Seems nevertheless that you forgot the political-economic theory denigrating human life more than anything else: Capitalism, the objectification and monetization of everything including humans.”

    Wow, a budding Communist. I thought that would be incompatible with your world view.

    Jeff wrote: “I don’t live in a dream world. I certainly don’t moon over a dead man gone for 71 years.”

    “No you only moon over dead men gone for thousands of years such as Moses”

    That makes no sense whatsoever. WTF would I moon over Moses…..?
    Oh, wait. You think I’m a Jew. Ok.

    Your punishment for exposing my true identity is the immediate loss of your income and and your shelter. Mossad operatives will be knocking on your door in 3….2…..1……😂

    “and for hundreds of years such as America’s founding fathers.”

    I simply admire what they did. It took courage.

    Jeff wrote: “So, a fairy tale of disappearing Jews. Hermie, if you have no proof you don’t have shit.”

    “Be careful not to fall from your pulpit, Guru Kross Section. ;-)”

    Right back at you, Mr. Carbon Dioxide isn’t dangerous. I could be wrong about that, do me a solid and test that out with a few of your denier friends. I suggest an air tight room…..

    Jeff wrote: “Oh, BTW. For it to prevail you’ll have to prove where all those missing Jews went, well, account for a majority of them.”

    “On the question of whether the SS members recognized the destruction of Jewry as an aim of the leaders, 1,593 out of 1,637 affidavits which mention this problem state that the Jewish problem was not to be solved by killing or the so-called “final solution,” and that they had no knowledge of these intentions of the leaders.” – Dr. Horst Pelckmann, defense counsel for the SS at Nuremberg, August 21, 1946.

    100% of the Nazi leaders and 97% of the SS members in custody denying the ‘Holocaust’? waw!! A hard time for you, it seems… ;-)”

    Yes, because men facing a noose or long imprisonment are always going to tell the truth. Please.

    Jeff wrote: “Documents proving the Holocaust? All forgeries. No, we don’t have proof of this, it just simply is.”

    “Your alleged Holocaust in code words and euphemisms is one the dumbest conspiracy theory ever coined.”

    How’s this for code words:

    http://www.ns-archiv.de/imt/ps3401-ps3600/3428-ps.php

    http://www.historiography-project.com/nca/nca06/3428-PS.php
    (Translation into English)

    Jeff wrote: “Testimony from SS? Everyone of them tortured. Yes, every single one. Proof? No, we don’t have to prove it.
    Witnesses? Coerced or lying. Victims? All crazy or mistaken.”

    “A few black sheep (as shown above). And Ufological proof once again…”

    German and English:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150325081826/http://holocaust-history.org/19420605-rauff-spezialwagen/

    https://web.archive.org/web/20150323222918/http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/

    http://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/works/jaeger-report/htm/img001.htm.en.html

    http://holocaustcontroversies.yuku.com/topic/1894
    (Translation from Polish to German to English

    Jeff wrote: “We’re all human, Hermie. Everyone. All the same.”

    “Childish and stupid.”

    Really? Childish and stupid is saying:
    “Wah!!!! We don’t have to give you proof!!!!!! Go away mean person!!!!!”

    “Grow up, crybaby…”

    You know, I think you should share your view about humans with the university you graduated from. You have a degree in biology, right? I think it might entitle you with a refund from them since you didn’t learn a fucking thing.
    Wait, is Belgium one of those countries where you get a free education? If so, how nice. I worked my way through school.
    If it was free, why, you just benefited from a society that provided you with that free education. In other words, you benefited from the two things you profess to despise the most, democracy and capitalism. How does it feel to be a fucking hypocrite?
    If you did have to pay for it you wasted your money and, more importantly, your professor’s time.

    Comment by Jeff K. — September 14, 2016 @ 3:11 pm

    • Nothing for nothing here. You gotta admit,FG may be a denier, but she allows both sides to make their case.

      Try making your case on a site run by the douchebags at the The White Knights of the KKK,or the ABs. Your shit would never see the light of day.

      I’ve said in the past,sometimes I go with what one side says,other time I listen to the other side.

      This site shows what’s best about our country. A person can keep an open mind,and come to their own conclusion.

      That may piss off a few people,but it’s better than gettin pissed on ( even though there’s people out there that enjoy doing what I mentioned in the later part of my sentence. What ever gets one through the day I guess).

      Comment by Tim — September 14, 2016 @ 3:43 pm

    • Jeff wrote: “That’s a fascinating observation but there aren’t 20 million Jews alive RIGHT NOW, much less at the end of the war.”

      According to rabbi Arthur Hertzberg, without Jewish conversions to other religions, there would be 100 million Jews in the world today. Everybody sees his own holocaust through his/her own lens (through a rabbi’s lens, Jewish religious desertion is unsurprisingly a catastrophe) and can throw any number in one direction or the other in order to ‘prove’ his/her point. There is nothing easier than substracting or adding 6 million (or any other number) of a group of things or people in a column of statistical data.

      Jeff wrote: “Yes….except they had to house and feed them. Utter nonsense, have any proof of this? Or are you going to fall back on “Wah, leave me alone, I don’t have to prove anything to you!!!!””

      Do you think that British General Frederick Morgan (Director of the planning for Operation Overlord and Chief of Operations for the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration (UNRRA) in Germany) talked about “a second Exodus” of epic proportions only to be fired?

      Jeff wrote: “Please. I lost my naïveté years ago.”

      Hence the ‘pretend’ in my comment.

      Jeff wrote: “Proved over and over again, time and time again. The only ones with no proof are deniers.”

      Depends on your definition of “proved,” I suppose…

      Jeff wrote: “See above. You and the other deniers are the ones that lack proof.”

      I saw, I laughed and I laughed even more…😉

      Jeff wrote: “WTF are you talking about? Hermie, I’m commenting on a Holocaust denier’s blog, not preaching to the masses.”

      Do you spend dozens of hours per week commenting on this blog because you believe that nobody reads (or will ever read) what you write? C’mon. Don’t be ridiculous. You’re a propagandist and you know it.

      Jeff wrote: “Oh, gee, I feel the burn. Please. As if you could hurt my feelings by calling me names.”

      I never intended to hurt your feelings. You missed my point. You call me names such as ‘denier’, so I can you names such ‘Holohoaxster.’ Belittling names for belittling names. Mere payback.

      Jeff wrote: “Hermie, I once had a very large man threaten to fuck me up in front of a judge and a sheriff’s deputy. I investigated child abuse cases and food stamp fraud. During that time I had far, far worse people than you call me far, far worse names than “holohoaxer” or “holocaustian.” So, calling me something goofy like “holohoaxer” means nothing to me.”

      I could care less about your life.

      Jeff wrote: “You and the other deniers aren’t revisionists. You are deniers. Why would I call you revisionists?”

      Maybe because you have enough reliable evidence on your side for not having to use pathetic tricks such as the belittlement of your opponents with names?

      Jeff wrote: “Yeah, that doesn’t really matter.”

      Yes, the fact that the Zionist clique ‘informed’ the world about the realization of its return prophecy (‘You shall return minus 6 million’) during WW2 probably doesn’t matter. Probably just a coincidence.

      Jeff wrote: “For the millionth time, I’m not accusing anyone of anything.”

      Indeed. You’re only accusing the entire German people of an unparalleled mass murder and Christendom of passive complicity in that mass murder. Not a big deal. A deal big enough to give a land with other legitimate owners (and a carte blanche for colonization) to Jewry. But not such a big deal after all.

      6-million-shekel question: At Nuremberg, what was the name of the guys promoting the Holohoax theory? Prosecutors. And what is a prosecutor if not an accuser?

      Stop fleeing your obvious status of accuser. Laughable and too patently a trick just intended to refuse a due and logical burden of proof. Why would a guy (or a group of guys) with ‘mountains of evidence’ to prove his (their) case, obstinately refuse a normal burden of proof? Suspect. Very suspect…

      Jeff wrote: “The Holocaust and the other atrocities committed by the Nazis are historical FACTS.”

      Written in capital letters, now I can finally see those are facts.😉

      Jeff wrote: “If you believe that these FACTS are incorrect then it is necessary to PROVE it, not simply duck and dodge me when I request proof.””

      I have debunked your so-called evidence often enough. The sight of yourself no longer daring to bring up your dear testimonial ‘evidence’ and graphic typhus pics in order to emotionally ‘prove’ your case, is a victory in itself. What’s left in your Holohoax propaganda armoury but pathetic capitals and reverse burden of proof?

      Jeff wrote: “No, I’ll just keep asking until you provide something or admit you have nothing.”

      I have provided more refutations of your bogus evidence than those you coud serenely cope with.

      Jeff wrote: “Sorry, untrue right back at you. Every denier…and I mean EVERY DENIER….that I’ve dealt with is anti-Semitic. Every one. It would be a unique experience to meet a denier that was not. That bias is so ingrained in you and others it is impossible to separate it from the core belief of denial. Because of this deeply ingrained bias it is impossible for you or any other denier to be objective when examining evidence.”

      Your confessed onw bias (in a pro-Jewish direction) destroys your nice theory.

      Is it possible for a Jewish/Zionist or pro-Jewish/pro-Zionist historian (i.e. 99.9%, if not 100%, of academic historians) to be objective when examining ‘Holocaust evidence’? Or is a bias in that specific direction just not disturbing and problematic as far as objectivity is concerned?

      Jeff wrote: “Horse shit. It makes deniers incapable of reason.”

      You wouldn’t have such hard times with me if I was incapable of reason.

      Jeff wrote: “WTF does that have to do with anything? Did Darwin say he hated Christians and wanted to see them all dead? Did Darwin ascribe whacked out conspiracies to Christians?”

      Everybody has biases, including Darwin. But the study of Darwin’s biases is a topic for sociologists, not for biologists. If Holohoaxsters spent less time fantasizing about revisionists’ motives, they could perhaps debate with them and address their arguments. Their “You are just disgusting subhuman heretics” stand is the attitude of liars trying to hide something which is unabe to stand scrutiny and open debate.

      Jeff wrote: “Kinda like impugning real or imaginary dark motives to Jews?”

      Neither imaginary, nor dark. Know the difference between a Jew or a philosemite and an antisemite? A Jew or a philosemite rejoices at Jewish domination while an antisemite deplores it. And Jews and philosemites don’t consider Jewish Messianic world domination a dark think. They consider it a very good thing, a thing for everybody’s sake, just like parents’ domination is/was considered as a good thing beneficial to a whole family.

      Jeff wrote: “You’d make a pretty fucked up psychiatrist.”

      I’d rather say that I’m not fucked up enough to be a psychiatrist.

      Jeff wrote: “See, that hurts. I thought you and I were buds. I was thinking about looking you up if/when I came to Europe so that we could grab a beer. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂”

      I’m sure you’ll be able to make it through. I don’t doubt you’ll quickly find a synagogue and lots of friends there when you come to Europe.

      Jeff wrote: “Wow, a budding Communist. I thought that would be incompatible with your world view.”

      Not all Socialisms are Communistic and/or Jew-owned. Some Socialisms, especially a specific one, gave some hard times to Jews and Communists. Communism was not a real Socialism. That was a bamboozlement of workers and peasants intended to advance the Jewish domineering agenda. Communism didn’t fail as alleged. It was always planned as a mere way to fill mass graves with Gentile bodies and install a new Jewish aristocracy on ‘thrones,’ using naive workers and peasant’s weight as a weapon.

      Jeff wrote: “That makes no sense whatsoever. WTF would I moon over Moses…..? Oh, wait. You think I’m a Jew. Ok.”

      You’re supposed to be a Catholic. So you’re supposed to moon over Moses. Stop ruining your so ingenious cover.

      Jeff wrote: “I simply admire what they did. It took courage.”

      Stop wasting your time with that. They died hundreds of years ago. So they just need to be forgotten. according to your own ‘argument.’

      Jeff wrote: “Right back at you, Mr. Carbon Dioxide isn’t dangerous. I could be wrong about that, do me a solid and test that out with a few of your denier friends. I suggest an air tight room…”

      We, me and my denier friends, just need to talk about carbon dioxide as a good or even workable poison gas for mass slaughter and wait for the big laughters of the science community.

      Jeff wrote: “Yes, because men facing a noose or long imprisonment are always going to tell the truth. Please.”

      Good for everybody that you and yours are here to tell us when they told the truth and when they didn’t.

      Jeff wrote: “How’s this for code words: http://www.historiography-project.com/nca/nca06/3428-PS.php (Translation into English)”

      What kind of historian don’t even try to provide originals of his claims? Oh yeah, a crook. Now I remember…

      Jeff wrote: “German and English: https://web.archive.org/web/20150325081826/http://holocaust-history.org/19420605-rauff-spezialwagen/

      Debunked letter.

      https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=73

      Jeff wrote: “https://web.archive.org/web/20150323222918/http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430331-inventory/”

      Already forgotten the epic debunking of your dear einschießvorrichtung?

      If you want people to stop regarding you as a Hasbara troll, stop drawing links from the list provided by your employers like a dumb robot.

      Jeff wrote: “http://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/works/jaeger-report/htm/img001.htm.en.html”

      The Soviets found the Jaeger ‘report’ 15 years after the alleged event. Stop polluting the world with your Soviet friends’ gross forgeries. There would be a simple way to know. Let’s open and examine those alleged mass graves. If the Zionist clique could exhume and transfer to Palestine the dead body of their beloved leader Theodor Herzl without a word of protest from any rabbi (including from the Zionist ones), why should a distorted Jewish law be allowed to obstruct research any longer?

      Jeff wrote: “http://holocaustcontroversies.yuku.com/topic/1894”

      Does anybody still believe that women’s hair “was cut off after gassing”?

      Women’s lousy hair were of course deloused with poison gas before they could be used for industrial purposes. For obvious reasons, the Germans didn’t want to ship typhus-carrying lice by train.

      And too bad the galvanization process produces zinc-cyanide. No surprise to find cyanide in pieces of galvanized zinc.

      All that assuming a Polish-Soviet Communist study means anything…

      Jeff wrote: “Really? Childish and stupid is saying: “Wah!!!! We don’t have to give you proof!!!!!! Go away mean person!!!!!””

      Debunking an accuser’s ‘proof’ is a proof in itself. At least, it is in normal courts of justice. For understandable and obvious reasons. Stop pretending you don’t understand that. Ridiculous.

      Jeff wrote: “You know, I think you should share your view about humans with the university you graduated from. You have a degree in biology, right? I think it might entitle you with a refund from them since you didn’t learn a fucking thing. Wait, is Belgium one of those countries where you get a free education? If so, how nice. I worked my way through school. If it was free, why, you just benefited from a society that provided you with that free education. In other words, you benefited from the two things you profess to despise the most, democracy and capitalism. How does it feel to be a fucking hypocrite? If you did have to pay for it you wasted your money and, more importantly, your professor’s time.”

      Go out and have a cry. Stop ridiculing yourself as an emotional angry child. A bit of self-esteem please. Embarrassing.

      Comment by hermie — September 15, 2016 @ 1:57 am

  3. Bush wasn’t in a school in Texas. He was in a school 3.5 miles away from where I was living at the time – in Sarasota, Florida.

    Comment by blake121666 — September 12, 2016 @ 11:28 pm

  4. In addition to the 3,000-or-so victims who perished on 9/11, we must not forget today all the people who have died subsequently – plus those who lives have been shattered physically and mentally. They include the office workers; emergency and rescue teams; plus the personnel who were involved in the massive clear-up of the Ground Zero site.

    Many of these folk breathed in the toxic and dangerous chemicals which has left them suffering all kinds of respiratory diseases and cancers. Already, the numbers who have died from these serious secondary effects has greatly superseded the original total, and tragically, it looks as if this problem is still ongoing.

    But neither must we forget all those countless numbers of people – US servicemen and Afghan citizens – who perished in a totally needless war in Afghanistan, searching for someone who had nothing whatever to do with the 9/11 event.

    And should we also include the casualties and victims of the Iraq war in these totals? The Bush administration certainly heavily used the 9/11 attacks as a reason to invade the country. Would the US congress and the American people have given their support to such a dubious venture without being shocked and psychologically shattered in advance by the 9/11 attacks?

    But alas, that is where we are today – and so we can only remember and honor all those whose lives were cut short due to this dreadful event.

    Comment by Talbot — September 11, 2016 @ 8:18 am

    • We need to declare war on the Empire.

      Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 9:39 am

      • An attack by the Death Star still makes more sense than the Pancake Theory. I think I’ll go with this one until I have a more compelling and realistic one…

        And it’s not “We need to declare war on the Empire.” It’s “We need to declare war on Saddam and any other sovereign state Israel has designated for annihilation and fragmentation or inclusion within Greater Israel. Oded Yinon Above All. Isra-Hail!!”

        Comment by hermie — September 12, 2016 @ 4:29 am

        • “An attack by the Death Star still makes more sense than the Pancake Theory. I think I’ll go with this one until I have a more compelling and realistic one…”

          You’re welcome. I’m surprised you haven’t fallen in line with the other Whackadoodles with the cold fusion, “dustification” ray, micro-nukes, etc. That’s right up the tin foil hat alley for you, Hermie.

          “And it’s not “We need to declare war on the Empire.” It’s “We need to declare war on Saddam and any other sovereign state Israel has designated for annihilation and fragmentation or inclusion within Greater Israel. Oded Yinon Above All. Isra-Hail!!”

          So, let’s see. The Mossad did it, am I right? Or some other “Jew Agency?” I’m assuming that they colluded with the US Government to do this?

          So, the motivation for this was war with Iraq? Why kill US citizens to do this? After all, the little Bush already had it in hard for Hussein, it was daddy’s unfinished business, after all. It took long enough to get around to it, two years in fact. Much easier just to allow US citizens to cook for the requisite time with tales of WMD’s and human rights violations. You didn’t need to kill 3,000 or so US citizens and destroy billions of dollars of property to do that.

          As for annihilation, fragmentation or inclusion, well, I’m afraid this failed. Iraq still exists. Frankly if it were me I’d want to take out Iran. Iran is the bigger threat, not Iraq. Iran is governed by a cohesive Muslim theocracy, Iraq was governed by a pathetic dictator who lost his authority when the US chased him back to Iraq from Kuwait with his tail between his legs.

          So, there’s no proof of this, right? Feel free to provide some…..I’m assuming there are leaks in this regard? Phone calls? Transcripts? Deep Throat leaks?

          No? I’m not surprised. Whackadoodles don’t need these things….they just need their brilliant imaginations to dream up this shit.

          But, let’s say the US Government wasn’t involved. Possible, right? Maybe the Mossad decided it couldn’t trust their contacts to go along.

          Well, if so, that’s a HUGE risk. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you…..if it breaks you are in a world of hurt. Not even the influence of the PACS, congressmen and senators could save you. They run screaming away because to back Isreal would mean the loss of everything for them. At the least it means the cut in your aid…at most a declaration of war because doing something like this is an act of war.

          So, keep dreaming, Whackadoodle. It’s easier than dealing with the real world.

          Comment by Jeff K. — September 12, 2016 @ 11:26 am

          • Actually they were trying to Eldrige on the plane. They figured if they could make it invisible to radar,then they could’ve pulled this shit off with no problem

            Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 1:50 pm

          • You ‘d better limit yourself to posting pics of ducks and death stars. More up your alley.

            Not enough interested in 9/11 to interfere in this topic and provide information of any interest. Just like yourself with the ‘Holocaust.’

            Comment by hermie — September 12, 2016 @ 4:21 pm

            • “Not enough interested in 9/11 to interfere in this topic and provide information of any interest.”

              This surprised me, I figured you’d gleefully dive headfirst into any conspiraloon theory that involved Jews or the Mossad. I thought anything that involved unknown possibly Jewish death technology would cause you to salivate Pavlov’s dog.

              “Just like yourself with the ‘Holocaust.’”

              Look, don’t hate because your “Holohoax Theories” make sane people giggle hysterically.

              Comment by Jeff K. — September 12, 2016 @ 4:55 pm

              • Jeff wrote: “This surprised me, I figured you’d gleefully dive headfirst into any conspiraloon theory that involved Jews or the Mossad. I thought anything that involved unknown possibly Jewish death technology would cause you to salivate Pavlov’s dog.”

                Once again you just reveal your own biased history writing-telling method. Unlike what you believe, I’m not a denier. Unlike yourself, I don’t deny things I dislike. I study things very carefully. After that, I assess what I studied. And then I form my own opinion in the light of that knowledge and assessment. Since I haven’t done such a work with 9/11 (I have, but not enough by my standards), I just refrain from drawing final conclusions on this event.

                And as far as the Holocaust and 9/11 are concerned, that’s the official narrative, not the narratives challenging it, which sounds like a ludicrous conspiraloon theory.

                Jeff wrote: “Look, don’t hate”

                Don’t hate what???

                Jeff wrote: “because your “Holohoax Theories” make sane people giggle hysterically.”

                Just like Heliocentrism and Darwinism used to do not so long ago.

                The ‘argument’ that “Everydody believes in this or that” is even more laughable and fallacious than appeal to authority. Since when are the sheeple’s beliefs proof of anything?

                Comment by hermie — September 13, 2016 @ 3:06 am

                • “Jeff wrote: “This surprised me, I figured you’d gleefully dive headfirst into any conspiraloon theory that involved Jews or the Mossad. I thought anything that involved unknown possibly Jewish death technology would cause you to salivate Pavlov’s dog.”

                  “Once again you just reveal your own biased history writing-telling method. Unlike what you believe, I’m not a denier.”

                  Hermie, you are the definition of a denier.

                  “Unlike yourself, I don’t deny things I dislike.”

                  That’s hysterical.

                  “I study things very carefully.”

                  You apparently have the worst study habits in the history of studying.

                  “After that, I assess what I studied. And then I form my own opinion in the light of that knowledge and assessment.”

                  Colored by racism and anti-Semitism.
                  Tell me, during your studies, did you ever figure out where the Jews went if the Nazis didn’t murder them? Or actually uncover some sort of hard proof of this alleged “hoax?”

                  “Since I haven’t done such a work with 9/11 (I have, but not enough by my standards), I just refrain from drawing final conclusions on this event.”

                  I’m sure when you come to your “conclusion” it will include something about Jews being responsible.

                  “And as far as the Holocaust and 9/11 are concerned, that’s the official narrative, not the narratives challenging it, which sounds like a ludicrous conspiraloon theory.”

                  Really? Because micro-nukes and 5.5 million Jews vanished with no proof of where they went are the definition of conspiraloon.

                  Jeff wrote: “Look, don’t hate”

                  “Don’t hate what???”

                  Hermie, you hate everyone that’s Jewish or has colored skin.

                  Jeff wrote: “because your “Holohoax Theories” make sane people giggle hysterically.”

                  “Just like Heliocentrism and Darwinism used to do not so long ago.”

                  We can’t compare the two with Holocaust denial. After all, those are proven fact, Holocaust denial is only considered viable for racist, anti-Semite conspiraloons.
                  Naturally I say that with all due respect.

                  “The ‘argument’ that “Everydody believes in this or that” is even more laughable and fallacious than appeal to authority.”

                  Well, get cracking, then. I’m still waiting on proof of where the Jews went or some sort proof from this “conspiracy.”

                  “Since when are the sheeple’s beliefs proof of anything?”

                  Such an elitist. You should be ashamed of yourself.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 13, 2016 @ 7:09 am

                • Jeff wrote: “Hermie, you are the definition of a denier.”

                  Says a guy who deny the laws of physics every time he needs to save his dear testimonial myth from its own inconsistencies and stupidities. Very funny.

                  And what the word ‘denier’ says about the people who felt compelled to coin it and about those who feel compelled to use it? Who uses belittling and/or vilifying names to portray their opponents? Guys with mountains of evidence on their side? Or rather the anxious and feverish advocates of a state-sponsored lie built on sand?

                  Jef wrote: “You apparently have the worst study habits in the history of studying.”

                  Not everybody is lucky enough to be satisfied with the Ufological-Holocaustian laughable testimonies gathered by Spielberg and others…

                  Jeff wrote: “Colored by racism and anti-Semitism.”

                  Irrelevant and even off topic. Since when is anti-racist and Jew-loving information a quality label and a guarantee of reliability? Bias is bias, be it a bias you like or a bias you dislike. You can at best posture as a morally-superior individual (in this specific society, in this specific era, and under these specific circumstances) but not as a more reliable or honest information provider. I’m afraid this comment only succeeded in exposing your own biased methods. Wondering “How can I depict this event so that it will glorify negroes or absolve Jews?” is no truth telling. That’s just biased storytelling. Ph.D. storytelling. But storytelling nevertheless.

                  Jeff wrote: “Tell me, during your studies, did you ever figure out where the Jews went if the Nazis didn’t murder them? Or actually uncover some sort of hard proof of this alleged “hoax?””

                  Because you really believe(d) that there was/is some sort of hard proof of the alleged disappearance of those Jews?!? Cute…

                  Or perhaps you sincerely believed that the affidavit of Hoettl would forever exempt the accusers to provide non-Ufological evidence for their extravagant claims???😮

                  Jeff wrote: “I’m sure when you come to your “conclusion” it will include something about Jews being responsible.”

                  True that the “Cui bono?” stand points to a very specific group…

                  Jeff wrote: “Really? Because micro-nukes and 5.5 million Jews vanished with no proof of where they went are the definition of conspiraloon.”

                  And what’s the definition of an unprecedented fire-and-collapse-to-the-ground sequence and of 7 decades of hysterical appeals about 5-6 million Jews on the verge of imminent annihilation unless transferred without delay to Palestine?

                  Jeff wrote: “Hermie, you hate everyone that’s Jewish or has colored skin.”

                  Not planning to live forever under the boot of domineering Jewry is no hate. The correct term is ‘love of freedom.’

                  Jeff wrote: “We can’t compare the two with Holocaust denial. After all, those are proven fact, Holocaust denial is only considered viable for racist, anti-Semite conspiraloons. Naturally I say that with all due respect.”

                  “Racist, anti-Semite conspiraloons” is just post-WW2 vocabulary for “heretics.” The Heliocentrist and Darwinist heresies finally prevailed the same way Holocaust revisionism will prevail soon or late. The Lipstadts and other Holo-Inquisitors won’t be able to prevent forever the Holohoax from collapsing under the weight of its own inconsistencies and farcical foundations.

                  Jeff wrote: “Such an elitist. You should be ashamed of yourself.”

                  Yes, I should. Elitism is so bad. Considering unequal individuals as equals is so fair and honest, so humane, so American. So pathetically dumb…

                  “the true slogan of justice; and also its corollary: “Never make equal what is unequal.”” – Friedrich Nietzsche

                  Comment by hermie — September 13, 2016 @ 3:53 pm

                • “Jeff wrote: “Hermie, you are the definition of a denier.”

                  “Says a guy who deny the laws of physics every time he needs to save his dear testimonial myth from its own inconsistencies and stupidities. Very funny.”

                  Says a guy who can’t provide any sort of proof where the Jews went. Talk about defying the laws of physics……

                  “And what the word ‘denier’ says about the people who felt compelled to coin it and about those who feel compelled to use it?”

                  Well, you are a denier. Own it. Be loud. Be proud. Everyone likes to see loonies howl.

                  “Who uses belittling and/or vilifying names to portray their opponents?”

                  You mean like holocaustians? Holohoaxers?

                  “Guys with mountains of evidence on their side? Or rather the anxious and feverish advocates of a state-sponsored lie built on sand?

                  Well, that’s big talk coming from a cult that vilifies me as a holocaustian.

                  Jef wrote: “You apparently have the worst study habits in the history of studying.”

                  “Not everybody is lucky enough to be satisfied with the Ufological-Holocaustian laughable testimonies gathered by Spielberg and others…”

                  Very well, for the millionth time, prove where the Jews went and I’ll believe you. I can’t believe fairy tales of mystical camps in the USSR….in the middle of a war zone….a famine zone. How is that believable?

                  Jeff wrote: “Colored by racism and anti-Semitism.”

                  “Irrelevant and even off topic.”

                  Well, that’s the core of denial.

                  “Since when is anti-racist and Jew-loving information a quality label and a guarantee of reliability? Bias is bias, be it a bias you like or a bias you dislike. You can at best posture as a morally-superior individual (in this specific society, in this specific era, and under these specific circumstances) but not as a more reliable or honest information provider. I’m afraid this comment only succeeded in exposing your own biased methods.”

                  I’ll admit to bias, I loath political theory that denigrates or minimizes any human life, regardless of what it is. Stalinism, National Socialism, Maoism, whatever it is. All the same thing, different slogans.

                  “Wondering “How can I depict this event so that it will glorify negroes or absolve Jews?”

                  WTF are you talking about? When did I ever say any of that?
                  I don’t live in a dream world. I certainly don’t moon over a dead man gone for 71 years.

                  “is no truth telling. That’s just biased storytelling. Ph.D. storytelling. But storytelling nevertheless.”

                  Denier blah blah.

                  Jeff wrote: “Tell me, during your studies, did you ever figure out where the Jews went if the Nazis didn’t murder them? Or actually uncover some sort of hard proof of this alleged “hoax?””

                  “Because you really believe(d) that there was/is some sort of hard proof of the alleged disappearance of those Jews?!? Cute…”

                  So, a fairy tale of disappearing Jews. Hermie, if you have no proof you don’t have shit.

                  “Or perhaps you sincerely believed that the affidavit of Hoettl would forever exempt the accusers to provide non-Ufological evidence for their extravagant claims??? :-o”

                  No, what I’m saying is that you hem and haw and dodge and squeak and squeal when I ask you this.

                  Jeff wrote: “I’m sure when you come to your “conclusion” it will include something about Jews being responsible.”

                  “True that the “Cui bono?” stand points to a very specific group…”

                  So easy to live in a fantasy world where all of life’s problems can be reduced to “The evil Jews did it!!!! The evil Jews did it!!!!!!”

                  Jeff wrote: “Really? Because micro-nukes and 5.5 million Jews vanished with no proof of where they went are the definition of conspiraloon.”

                  “And what’s the definition of an unprecedented fire-and-collapse-to-the-ground sequence and of 7 decades of hysterical appeals about 5-6 million Jews on the verge of imminent annihilation unless transferred without delay to Palestine?”

                  Sorry, we’re talking about you conspiraloons.

                  Jeff wrote: “Hermie, you hate everyone that’s Jewish or has colored skin.”

                  “Not planning to live forever under the boot of domineering Jewry is no hate. The correct term is ‘love of freedom.’”

                  How’s that working out so far?

                  Jeff wrote: “We can’t compare the two with Holocaust denial. After all, those are proven fact, Holocaust denial is only considered viable for racist, anti-Semite conspiraloons. Naturally I say that with all due respect.”

                  “Racist, anti-Semite conspiraloons” is just post-WW2 vocabulary for “heretics.”

                  Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I love your silly bullshit….oh wait, you’re serious.
                  Ok, sorry. I promise to be good (😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂). No, really, I promise (😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂).

                  “The Heliocentrist and Darwinist heresies finally prevailed the same way Holocaust revisionism will prevail soon or late.”

                  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

                  Oh, crap. I’m sorry. I said I’ll be good.

                  Oh, BTW. For it to prevail you’ll have to prove where all those missing Jews went, well, account for a majority of them. An easy way to start is to admit that the Einsatzgruppen shot 1.3 million Jews on the Eastern Front. Try that and see where that gets you.

                  “The Lipstadts and other Holo-Inquisitors won’t be able to prevent forever the Holohoax from collapsing under the weight of its own inconsistencies and farcical foundations.”

                  Inconsistencies? Really?
                  Let’s see. The Nazis didn’t murder the Jews, they sent them somewhere. Only we don’t know where. You’re just going to have to take our word for it. Yes, we know that’s an odd way to look at it but you are going to have to trust us.
                  Why? Well, we don’t have to give you proof. That’s not the denier, I mean, sorry, “revisionist” way.
                  Well, it’s all a hoax. We are sure it’s a hoax, even though there’s never been leaks from the hoax or confessions from whistleblowers.
                  Documents proving the Holocaust? All forgeries. No, we don’t have proof of this, it just simply is.
                  Testimony from SS? Everyone of them tortured. Yes, every single one. Proof? No, we don’t have to prove it.
                  Witnesses? Coerced or lying.
                  Victims? All crazy or mistaken.

                  Yep, no inconsistencies there. 😂😂😂😂

                  Jeff wrote: “Such an elitist. You should be ashamed of yourself.”

                  “Yes, I should. Elitism is so bad. Considering unequal individuals as equals is so fair and honest, so humane, so American. So pathetically dumb…”

                  We’re all human, Hermie. Everyone. All the same.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 13, 2016 @ 9:25 pm

                • Jeff wrote: “Says a guy who can’t provide any sort of proof where the Jews went. Talk about defying the laws of physics……

                  “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.” The victors of 1945 could have created an additional 20 million Jews out of thin air as easily as they could make 5-6 million Jews vanish in the night and fog of their politically-motivated bamboozlement. Don’t [pretend to] be naive. Asserting things in rigged trials is easy. Proving such things is less easy. That’s probably the reason why they didn’t even try to prove it. You can keep posturing like a guru who reveals a truth from his pulpit if you want to. You’ll even have some followers. But you’re still a guru capitalizing on people’s gullibility nevertheless.

                  Jeff wrote: “Well, you are a denier. Own it. Be loud. Be proud. Everyone likes to see loonies howl.”

                  Of course everyone likes loonies howl. Probably a reason of Holohoaxsters’ success.

                  Jeff wrote: “You mean like holocaustians? Holohoaxers?”

                  Yes, like those. I’ll keep using ridiculing names as long as Holohoaxsters keep calling me a denier. Don’t like the taste of your medicine, Jeff?

                  Jeff wrote: “Well, that’s big talk coming from a cult that vilifies me as a holocaustian.”

                  Says the guy unable to use the word ‘revisionist’ during more than 3 days.

                  Jef wrote: “Very well, for the millionth time, prove where the Jews went and I’ll believe you. I can’t believe fairy tales of mystical camps in the USSR….in the middle of a war zone….a famine zone. How is that believable?”

                  For the 6 millionth time, prove those Jews died as Zionists ‘prophesied’ for 7 decades prior to WW2 and as any normal accuser would do, or just concede you’re a mere religious believer posturing like a historian.

                  Jeff wrote: “Well, that’s the core of denial.”

                  Untrue. And even if true, still irrelevant and unrelated to revisionist argumentation (for the reason explained above), just like Darwin’s feelings toward Christianity didn’t change the validity of his arguments. Impugning real or imaginary dark motives to an opponent is a well-known fallacy most of time exposing the weakness of its users’ arguments.

                  Jeff wrote: “I’ll admit to bias, I loath political theory that denigrates or minimizes any human life, regardless of what it is. Stalinism, National Socialism, Maoism, whatever it is. All the same thing, different slogans.”

                  I don’t care about the reasons of your bias. I’m not your psychiatrist, confident or friend.

                  And thank you for the childish political analysis. Very funny. Seems nevertheless that you forgot the political-economic theory denigrating human life more than anything else: Capitalism, the objectification and monetization of everything including humans.

                  Jeff wrote: “WTF are you talking about? When did I ever say any of that?”

                  Only in every sentence you’ve posted on this blog so far…

                  Jeff wrote: “I don’t live in a dream world. I certainly don’t moon over a dead man gone for 71 years.”

                  No you only moon over dead men gone for thousands of years such as Moses and for hundreds of years such as America’s founding fathers.

                  Jeff wrote: “Denier blah blah.”

                  Is this an argument? I ask this question because there’s hardly a post of yours devoid of this one.

                  Jeff wrote: “So, a fairy tale of disappearing Jews. Hermie, if you have no proof you don’t have shit.”

                  Be careful not to fall from your pulpit, Guru Kross Section.😉

                  Jeff wrote: “No, what I’m saying is that you hem and haw and dodge and squeak and squeal when I ask you this.”

                  The sight of an accuser requesting a refutation of his unproven groundless claims is a good reason to hem and haw and…

                  Jeff wrote: “So easy to live in a fantasy world where all of life’s problems can be reduced to “The evil Jews did it!!!! The evil Jews did it!!!!!!”

                  Is this a factual argument? Or are you just impugning motive once again?

                  Jeff wrote: “Sorry, we’re talking about you conspiraloons.”

                  What a kid…

                  Jeff wrote: “How’s that working out so far?”

                  As planned. Vilification and bullyings.

                  Jeff wrote: “Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I love your silly bullshit….oh wait, you’re serious. Ok, sorry. I promise to be good (😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂). No, really, I promise (😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂).”

                  Funny dodge from a guy calling others ‘hysterical’ in almost every comment.

                  Jeff wrote: “😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Oh, crap. I’m sorry. I said I’ll be good.”

                  And you’ve been good. Good at empty replies.

                  Jeff wrote: “Oh, BTW. For it to prevail you’ll have to prove where all those missing Jews went, well, account for a majority of them.”

                  Call me when your side has finally exhumed and physically proved one hundredth of its claims.

                  Jeff wrote: “Inconsistencies? Really? Let’s see. The Nazis didn’t murder the Jews, they sent them somewhere. Only we don’t know where. You’re just going to have to take our word for it. Yes, we know that’s an odd way to look at it but you are going to have to trust us. Why? Well, we don’t have to give you proof. That’s not the denier, I mean, sorry, “revisionist” way.”

                  What about this one? Asserting before a ‘court’ that the old worn Zionist-Talmudic prophecy of Jewish return finally occured, proved that it actually occured, and no physical evidence will be provided for that one since an alcoholic guy in custody claimed that he had destroyed any physical evidence for it. What a buffoonery!!

                  Jeff wrote: “Well, it’s all a hoax. We are sure it’s a hoax, even though there’s never been leaks from the hoax or confessions from whistleblowers.”

                  “On the question of whether the SS members recognized the destruction of Jewry as an aim of the leaders, 1,593 out of 1,637 affidavits which mention this problem state that the Jewish problem was not to be solved by killing or the so-called “final solution,” and that they had no knowledge of these intentions of the leaders.” – Dr. Horst Pelckmann, defense counsel for the SS at Nuremberg, August 21, 1946.

                  100% of the Nazi leaders and 97% of the SS members in custody denying the ‘Holocaust’? waw!! A hard time for you, it seems…😉

                  Jeff wrote: “Documents proving the Holocaust? All forgeries. No, we don’t have proof of this, it just simply is.”

                  Your alleged Holocaust in code words and euphemisms is one the dumbest conspiracy theory ever coined.

                  Jeff wrote: “Testimony from SS? Everyone of them tortured. Yes, every single one. Proof? No, we don’t have to prove it.
                  Witnesses? Coerced or lying. Victims? All crazy or mistaken.”

                  A few black sheep (as shown above). And Ufological proof once again…

                  Jeff wrote: “We’re all human, Hermie. Everyone. All the same.”

                  Childish and stupid. Grow up, crybaby…

                  Comment by hermie — September 14, 2016 @ 4:04 am

                • One time Joe Stalin made the comment,” the victors of a war,decide what the truth is”. Something like that. Good way to keep people down on the farm.

                  We couldn’t do it after WW1,so now that WW2 is over,we gotta get drastic.

                  This is the one that gets me. You gonna tell me the world ain’t never had any cocky ass leaders before,that would’ve come up with something like this? Hey,the Christians were thrown to lions,it just wasn’t done on a grand scale. Why is it,that the Romans were such lapdogs to the Jews ? Hey,Pilate pretty much was told to bump Christ off by the Jews. Hateful bunch of douchebags there.

                  Comment by Tim — September 14, 2016 @ 8:23 am

                • You wrote: “Hey,Pilate pretty much was told to bump Christ off by the Jews. Hateful bunch of douchebags there.”

                  Jews have been hated since the beginning of time. You can read about it on this blog post on another person’s blog.

                  http://downwithjugears.blogspot.in/2010/08/why-are-jews-so-hated.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 14, 2016 @ 8:37 am

                • I can see why. They like to think they have ,”big brass ones”. The Romans were such a bad ass group,why did they let the Jews dictate policy to them,as to wether Christ would live or die ?

                  Comment by Tim — September 14, 2016 @ 9:08 am

                • I’m going to answer you on top of the comments.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 14, 2016 @ 3:03 pm

            • Speaking of ducks. Duck season is just around the corner here in Texas . After that,we deer season will be close to opening in Mississippi .

              I do deer season in Mississippi,cause I never leave empty handed . Mississippi has more than their share of hogs. Fish and classify them as a nuisance animal. Since that’s the case,it’s hog hunting 24/7 year round. There’s no bag limit .

              I’m not the definition of a good Hunter when it comes to deer. That’s why I like the feral hog scene in Mississippi . I bag one or two hogs,if I bomb out on the deer. I can usually convince myself I came to Mississippi to hog hunt,instead of deer hunting. It don’t seem like a wasted trip that way.

              Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 7:08 pm

    • Hey that sounds like Southeast Asia . After my tour,I concluded it was one big senseless goat f–k.

      Okay. In all fairness I have to say we did accomplish something . We lined the shit out of LBJ’s pockets. Brown and Root had a sweet construction contract for South Vietnam. LBJ was a major shareholder.
      “Hey,hey,LBJ,How many kids did you kill today?” I think that’s how it went.

      Comment by Tim — September 11, 2016 @ 10:26 am

  5. ” 06/22/2010 – (PilotsFor911Truth.org) Recently Pilots For 9/11 Truth have analyzed the speeds reported for the aircraft utilized on 9/11. Numerous aviation experts have voiced their concerns regarding the extremely excessive speeds reported above Maximum Operating for the 757 and 767, particularly, United and American Airlines 757/767 Captains who have actual flight time in all 4 aircraft reportedly used on 9/11. These experts state the speeds are impossible to achieve near sea level in thick air if the aircraft were a standard 757/767 as reported. Combined with the fact the airplane which was reported to strike the south tower of the World Trade Center was also producing high G Loading while turning and pulling out from a dive, the whole issue becomes incomprehensible to fathom a standard 767 can perform such maneuvers at such intense speeds exceeding Maximum Operating limits of the aircraft. “

    Comment by Talbot — September 11, 2016 @ 6:56 am

    • ACARS CONFIRMED – 9/11 AIRCRAFT AIRBORNE LONG AFTER CRASH
      UNITED 175 IN THE VICINITY OF HARRISBURG AND PITTSBURGH, PA

      (PilotsFor911Truth.org) – Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) is a device used to send messages to and from an aircraft. Very similar to text messages and email we use today, Air Traffic Control, the airline itself, and other airplanes can communicate with each other via this “texting” system. ACARS was developed in 1978 and is still used today. Similar to cell phone networks, the ACARS network has remote ground stations installed around the world to route messages from ATC, the airline, etc, to the aircraft depending on it’s location and vice versa.

      ACARS Messages have been provided through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) which demonstrate that the aircraft received messages through ground stations located in Harrisburg, PA, and then later routed through a ground station in Pittsburgh, 20 minutes after the aircraft allegedly impacted the South Tower in New York. How can messages be routed through such remote locations if the aircraft was in NY, not to mention how can messages be routed to an aircraft which allegedly crashed 20 minutes earlier?

      So it would appear that this Osama Bin Laden was a very, very clever man indeed. There he was, sitting in a cave in Afghanistan, hooked up to a kidney dialysis machine, and from there he was able to supply his hijackers with mysterious equipment that not only made commercial airliners travel at speeds way beyond their capacity, but also to remain in the sky long after they had allegedly crashed.

      Truly amazing !!

      Comment by Talbot — September 11, 2016 @ 7:23 am

      • I’ve already told you. It was the Death Star.

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 9:37 am

        • No it wasn’t ,it was King Kong . He climbed the World Trade Center in the ’76 remake.

          They thought they killed him. He came back from the dead. However remember this. No matter how they said it happened,president bush was still responsible for blowing up the Levys that destroyed New Orleans .

          Comment by Tim — September 11, 2016 @ 10:50 am

          • “No it wasn’t ,it was King Kong . He climbed the World Trade Center in the ’76 remake.”

            😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂

            Nice.

            Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 10:58 am

        • In all honesty,some of the shit don’t make sense. A box cutter? They carry out this elaborate plan,yet the only way they can think to take over the plane,is with a box cutter. Has anyone ever heard of a “zip gun?” There’s plenty of ordinary object you can make one out of.

          Yeah,the thing would probably blow up in your face,but the business end of that bullet,is gonna end up somewhere. Hey if they were smart,they could’ve taken the John Dillenger route. It worked once. Couldn’t hurt to try it again.

          Why did the planes hit so high up on the building? If they’re gonna go that way,why not just take the aircraft up to a higher altitude,and do a nose dive into the top of the building.

          People can’t say they were worried about the planes hitting other buildings. Those 2 buildings stick out,way above the rest . Even if they were going to hit a surrounding building,tip the wings. No those planes ain’t fighter jets,but they can still make the same moves.

          I heard it said,the rag heads told the instructors at the flight school,they just wanted to learn how to get the plane airborne. Where does that make sense? That ain’t gonna raise an eyebrow,somewhere along the line?

          This is the best one. Why aim for the White House ? Go for the capital building . All the laws are passed there. Depending on how many senators and congressmen were there,that would personally impact a lot of different states .

          None of this shit proves conspiracy or not,but it would make a person wonder.

          Comment by Tim — September 11, 2016 @ 11:33 am

        • Jeff K’s “Death Star” theory is far more plausible than the official story. After all – what kind of diseased, deranged mind could dream up the notion that 10 hijackers in two planes, who were rather partial to night-club strippers and snorting drugs; armed with box-cutters – and who had never piloted twin-engine jet airliners in their lives – could completely demolish three enormous skyscrapers in under 15 seconds !!!

          In fact, the results that we all saw on TV are more commensurate with a “sci-fi ray gun” fired from a Death Star, than they are with box-cutters.

          Comment by Talbot — September 12, 2016 @ 6:53 am

          • Who’s hubert zafke? I know they said he was a medic at auschwitz. They said this is the fourth time they’ve tried to go to trial,because of his health

            Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 7:05 am

            • You wrote: “Who’s hubert zafke?”

              I wrote about Zafke on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/95-year-old-german-man-will-be-put-on-trial-for-murdering-3681-people-at-auschwitz-birkenau/

              This quote is from the blog post cited above:
              Begin quote
              As part of his job as a medic, “He often poured Zyklon-B pesticide into the gas chambers.”
              He was pouring PESTICIDE into gas chambers?

              Was he trying to kill lice or people? Would it have killed the Germans to execute the Jews in a nice way and save the pesticide for killing the lice that spread typhus. End quote

              Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 7:21 am

              • He’s in the news today. It said going to go to trial for a fourth time. The others were postponed due to his health.

                Clearly he cant stand trial. He’s damn near at deaths doorstep,because of his health. How come the assholes won’t let the shit drop. He ain’t gonna make it through no trial

                Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 7:40 am

                • You wrote: “He’s damn near at deaths doorstep,because of his health. How come the assholes won’t let the shit drop.”

                  The Jews can never get enough revenge. The trials will go on for as long as there are any German people left, which won’t be long now.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 8:21 am

                • Read the story. I found it on a liberal candy ass search engine. Bing search engine. They got a picture of him now. He don’t look good at all. Some (not all) of the evidence prosecution presents at some of the trials,is questionable. Even on a damn good day.

                  Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 8:27 am

                • BBC News ( today’s date ) says the following about Hubert Zafke;-

                  ” According to the indictment, the SS medic served for several weeks in the summer of 1944 in the medical unit at Auschwitz during World War Two.

                  Hubert Zafke denies the charges, arguing he treated only wounded soldiers and members of the SS.

                  Prosecutors say that, like other SS guards at Auschwitz, Mr Zafke was well aware of the camp’s function as “an industrial-scale mass murder site”. According to the indictment, thousands of people died while he was there.

                  Teenage Jewish girl Anne Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau during the period covered by Hubert Zafke’s indictment. She died in another camp, at Bergen-Belsen, shortly before it was liberated by the British Army in 1945.

                  The chances of securing convictions for the last surviving Nazis have become harder as the remaining defendants are all now in their nineties.”
                  ……..

                  Note that he denies the charges – but it won’t do him any good of course, because he’s already guilty of just being one of the Auschwitz SS personnel who was present there during 1944.

                  And naturally the news article had to mention the angelic Anne Frank – even though she didn’t perish in Birkenau, but exited still alive out through “The Gate of Death”. ( should we also call it “The Gate of Life” for all those thousands of inmates who went off to various other destinations? ).

                  The article finishes off by claiming;- “The chances of securing convictions for the last surviving Nazis have become harder as the remaining defendants are all now in their nineties.” Do I detect a wistful air of disappointment in this statement. If there are no Nazis left, then what heart-rending stories of depravity, brutality and mass murder can the media find to broadcast and publish. And if all the “holocaust survivors” are “popping-their-clogs” at the same time, then there simply ain’t going to be much left for the public to sob about, or gasp in horror.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 12, 2016 @ 9:15 am

                • You wrote: “If there are no Nazis left, then what heart-rending stories of depravity, brutality and mass murder can the media find to broadcast and publish.”

                  Don’t worry, the Jews will carry on their “Revenge, Revenge, Revenge” for as long as there is at least one Jew left on this earth.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 9:43 am

                • You wrote: “Teenage Jewish girl Anne Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau during the period covered by Hubert Zafke’s indictment. She died in another camp, at Bergen-Belsen, shortly before it was liberated by the British Army in 1945.”

                  Zafke should get credit for saving the life of Anne Frank, who was a prisoner at Auschwitz while he was a medic there.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 9:46 am

                • Jews ain’t gonna do that. If they did that,it would show they know what,”doing the right thing”, is all about.

                  I’m still trying to figure out,why it takes them so long to find these supposed nazi criminals . Seventy one years in the making? It took less time than that to find Kazynski ,and He lived way below the radar.

                  Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 10:17 am

                • You wrote: I’m still trying to figure out,why it takes them so long to find these supposed nazi criminals”

                  It did not take this long to find these “nazi criminals.” No one was looking for them. It is only recently that the Jews have been going after these elderly men and women, to get more REVENGE, REVENGE, REVENGE.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 12:03 pm

                • So what’s the point they were trying to make about that lil shit Anne being a former guest at that prison?

                  Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 10:09 am

                • You wrote: “So what’s the point they were trying to make about that lil shit Anne being a former guest at that prison?”

                  Everyone knows the name Anne Frank. Everyone can relate to her sad story. It helps the Jews to be able to relate to the prisoners at Auschwitz, when they remember Anne Frank.

                  I wrote about Anne Frank’s father on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/02/21/otto-frank-father-of-anne-frank-feels-guilty-about-not-saving-his-famous-daughter/

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 12:06 pm

              • FG. I got a question . People have their opinions on 9/11. Shit happens. That’s where I sit. Tragic,shit happens.

                People think our government can’t be involved in shit like that. Once again,shit happens.

                Thalidomide. Where was the government them? I remember hearing a bit of growing up. I remember about those children that were affected by it.

                That’s just f–ked up. What happened to our government that cares so much. Where were they then? What’s the story on thalidomide ? Government ever step up ? Admit they f–ked up? Our government lets that shit fly,yet we point fingers at nazis.

                Comment by Tim — September 13, 2016 @ 8:26 am

                • You wrote: “People have their opinions on 9/11. Shit happens. That’s where I sit. Tragic,shit happens.”

                  I have written several blog posts about 9/11:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/911-attack/

                  My personal opinion is that the buildings were wired to come down because the owner wanted to replace them with one new tower, which now stands in that spot. One building, that the owner wanted to get rid of, came down even though it was not hit.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 13, 2016 @ 10:36 am

                • No . People are saying there’s no way our “warm fuzzy” government would murder her own citizens. That’s why I bought up Thalidomide . The government didn’t really give a shit about the babies that were born deformed because of their mothers taking it,while they were pregnant.

                  Then again the pharmaceutical companies,always have fat stacks of cash ready for our elected officials,so nothing happens to anybody.

                  No I was wanting to know,whatever became of all that ? It was a German pharmaceutical company that come up with this drug. I’m guessing none of the thalidomide children were Jewish . If they were,the Jews would’ve sued the piss outta this company,since it was a “German” pharmaceutical company that came up with thalidomide.

                  No people say there’s no way our government could be involved in something as heinous as 9/11. Our government will get behind anything that they can benefit from.

                  I don’t know if American pharmaceutical companies were involved in thalidomide or not. If there wasn’t any,you always got people like HJ Rohr or Pfizer that need approval for a drug,so they pay off the right politician . Their dirty money is more important than the safety of the people of this nation.

                  At any rate,what ever became of the thalidomide controversy? How did it all end up.

                  Comment by Tim — September 13, 2016 @ 12:35 pm

          • “Jeff K’s “Death Star” theory is far more plausible than the official story. After all – what kind of diseased, deranged mind could dream up the notion that 10 hijackers in two planes,”

            What sort of diseased, deranged minds could think up micro-nukes, sonic rays, “dustification” rays, so on. It amazes me what Looney Tunes driven, conspiracy obsessed, whackadoodles will dream up in order to squeeze and choke real history to fit their insane little belief systems.
            Again, how do you people function in the real world?

            “who were rather partial to night-club strippers and snorting drugs;”

            America has a lot to offer, Talbot. You’ve never heard of blending in?

            “armed with box-cutters – ”

            If all you have to deal with are unarmed passengers and crew those are enough, Talbot.

            “and who had never piloted twin-engine jet airliners in their lives – ”

            They weren’t flying the planes to Paris, Talbot. The only thing they really had to know was to keep the planes level enough fly until they got to their destinations.

            “could completely demolish three enormous skyscrapers in under 15 seconds !!!”

            Talbot, what are you talking about? It took almost an hour for burning jet fuel and other materials to weaken the steel structure enough for the towers to collapse.
            It’s called gravity, Talbot. Once the heat weakened the steel sufficiently gravity and weight made the towers collapse.

            “In fact, the results that we all saw on TV are more commensurate with a “sci-fi ray gun” fired from a Death Star, than they are with box-cutters.”

            You know, it really amazes me the weird crap that whackadoodles have to dream up in order to make the real world conform to their fantasies.

            So, it was micro-nukes? Cold fusion? Really?
            Thanks, Talbot. The real story makes much more sense now.

            Comment by Jeff K. — September 12, 2016 @ 10:51 am

            • These days, I tend to divide people into three categories;- 1) those who believe lock-stock-and-barrel in the official story of “box-cutters and “Arab hijackers”; 2) those who are prepared to keep an open mind and are not prepared to just accept what they are told by the mainstream media and government officials; 3) Those who don’t believe the official story-line at all, but strongly suspect that American and Israeli Jews had a major input into these outrages on 9/11.

              We now know which category you fall into – but how it could it be any otherwise; because you have told us several times that you are a civil servant who is employed by the US government at either federal, state or local level. They obviously PAY YOUR WAGES, and in return they require your obedience to their official narratives that they issue to the public.

              Comment by Talbot — September 12, 2016 @ 12:17 pm

              • You wrote: “Those who don’t believe the official story-line at all, but strongly suspect that American and Israeli Jews had a major input into these outrages on 9/11.”

                I agree with you. Remember “the dancing Israelies” who were seen cheering as the planes hit the towers? They were standing on top of a bus as they watched the planes hit. A woman saw them and reported it to the police, but no one followed up on this.

                Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 12:31 pm

                • “I agree with you. Remember “the dancing Israelies” who were seen cheering as the planes hit the towers? They were standing on top of a bus as they watched the planes hit. A woman saw them and reported it to the police, but no one followed up on this.”

                  Then how do we know these people exist? How do we know they were Isrealis?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 12, 2016 @ 12:53 pm

                • You wrote: “how do we know these people exist? How do we know they were Isrealis?”

                  At the time that this happened, I was participating in many news groups. I don’t know if news groups still exist, but at one time they were very popular. There was a lot of discussion about the dancing Israelis.

                  You can read about the attack on the World Trade Center and the dancing israelis here:
                  http://www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 12, 2016 @ 4:23 pm

                • “At the time that this happened, I was participating in many news groups. I don’t know if news groups still exist, but at one time they were very popular.

                  You can read about the attack on the World Trade Center and the dancing israelis here:
                  http://www.911myths.com/html/dancing_israelis.html

                  The article you posted essentially debunks the idea that Jews or the Mossad was involved.

                  So, we have five Isrealis working for a front company for the Mossad. They stop and photograph an event that thousands also photograph. The timeline is that Maria calls the police after receiving a call from her neighbor. This neighbor called her AFTER the first attack on the towers which means the men were not in place before but AFTER the first attack happened. The men are later deported but not charged. Two of the men were, if I read this correctly, were Mossad agents.
                  If so, naturally these men would stop to record an event that everyone acknowledges was a massive intelligence failure. These men were in New York tracking possible terrorist links in the city…an action that makes perfect sense, if embarrassing to the Isreali Government once they were arrested.

                  So, in other words, proof of nothing.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 12, 2016 @ 5:04 pm

                • Nobody bought up Mossad . If people say they were involved in it,then the 9/11 conspiracy just went out the window with me.

                  Those idiots are chicken shit pussies. So if people want to say they had something to do with it,then the shit just went out for me

                  Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 7:13 pm

              • “These days, I tend to divide people into three categories;- 1) those who believe lock-stock-and-barrel in the official story of “box-cutters and “Arab hijackers” 2) those who are prepared to keep an open mind and are not prepared to just accept what they are told by the mainstream media and government officials; 3) Those who don’t believe the official story-line at all, but strongly suspect that American and Israeli Jews had a major input into these outrages on 9/11.”

                “American and Isreali Jews had a major input into these outrages on 9/11”

                Using sonic death rays? Micro-nukes? “Dustification” rays?
                Or, is it cold fusion?

                Oh, that’s right. It was Jews because Jews are all evil and have access to NO KNOWN TECHNOLOGY.

                Did they get these things from Satan? Do they park these items in the Synogogue of Satan when they aren’t using them?

                At this point I’ll ask you for proof.

                “We now know which category you fall into – but how it could it be any otherwise; because you have told us several times that you are a civil servant who is employed by the US government at either federal, state or local level.”

                State level. The taxpayers of Oklahoma pay my salary, we do receive federal funding for programs like Food Stamps and Medicaid.

                You don’t really understand how federal, state and local governments work in the United States but I don’t really expect you to.

                “They obviously PAY YOUR WAGES, and in return they require your obedience to their official narratives that they issue to the public.”

                Now you’ve insulted me.

                Talbot, the Federal Government doesn’t know who the FUCK I AM. It doesn’t work that way, the Federal Government only knows about my existence because I pay taxes and vote. They could give a shit if I was your All-American boy who kow-tows the line or if I was some weirdo conspiracy theorist who lives in my mother’s basement. There are millions of federal, state and local government employees with all sorts of backgrounds and beliefs. In state government I’m vocal in my displeasure of the current Republican administration because they have fucked this state into a fair-the-well. The local union for state employees (of which I am not member) is also a vocal opponent. Yet, even though I don’t “tow the official line” I’ve continued to promote and it has never compromised my career.

                So, don’t pour your lunacy all over me and don’t presume to think you know me.

                Comment by Jeff K. — September 12, 2016 @ 12:47 pm

                • Oh dear, I didn’t mean to insult your integrity as a person or as a civil servant. Please forgive me.

                  But if you are employed as an official in the government at what ever level in the USA, then your views on the controversial 9/11 events are necessarily going to be influenced, and shaped, by your background and the prevailing circumstance that you find yourself in.

                  But in the circumstances, I think we must terminate the 9/11 discussion at this point. We are most definitely not going to see eye-to-eye on this issue.

                  Cheers.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 12, 2016 @ 1:05 pm

                • “Oh dear, I didn’t mean to insult your integrity as a person or as a civil servant. Please forgive me.”

                  You are forgiven. Please accept my apologies for my harsh language.

                  “But if you are employed as an official in the government at what ever level in the USA, then your views on the controversial 9/11 events are necessarily going to be influenced, and shaped, by your background and the prevailing circumstance that you find yourself in.”

                  No, they are not. I’m my own person, Talbot. I think for myself.
                  I’ve been critical of my government on many things. I was against the invasion of Iraq because I didn’t see the point. I’ve been critical of things like the Tuscegee Experiments and the LSD Experiments because I consider such actions as criminal and I think it is immoral that no one was ever prosecuted.

                  I’m very critical of the state government I work for.

                  Your problem is that you have a tendency to lump groups of humans in a mass, just like you lump Jews together. Every human on earth is an INDIVIDUAL, Talbot. Granted, as social animals we flock together but that doesn’t mean we don’t act as individuals when we desire.

                  “But in the circumstances, I think we must terminate the 9/11 discussion at this point. We are most definitely not going to see eye-to-eye on this issue.”

                  Absolutely.

                  “Cheers.”

                  Good day to you, Talbot.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 12, 2016 @ 1:25 pm

                • Conspiracy or not,our government is crooked like the proverbial “corkscrew”. Hell,they’ll sell out their own in heartbeat.

                  Remember what Martha Stewart pulled time for? Our elected officials in Washington,can legally do that shit. Us poor slobs,we’d be put in some FCI somewhere. How f–ked is that? When the Afghans started to fight back against the Reds in Afghanistan,the government was too quick to tell us, that Charlie Wilson put that deal together.

                  Lt. Caley of My Lai fame. He was ordered to clean out that vill. He was sent to Leavenworth FCI. He was pretty much passing through there. Dick Nixon ordered house arrest for him. Total time locked was like 2.5 to 3 years. Then Nixon gave him a pardon. It was limited,but still a pardon. Somebody wanted that shit to go away.

                  The CIA and their fooling around with acid. What next,remote viewing. Yeah experimenting with the acid,was f–ked up. The horror stories people try to connect up with that shit,don’t . If you got someone who’s ,”really unstable”,you’re gonna have problems. The CIA is stupid,but they’re not dumb to pull in candidates for a test,when they know what Vitamin C ( orange Sunshine. Use whichever term you wish),can do to a person. I served with some real winners when I was in country. More often than not,one of em would drop acid,while we were on patrol! How f–ked is that? However,none of them ever went in the direction,CIA would have you believe acid takes you in.

                  The government is full of backstabbing bafoons. They don’t give about anything but creating ,”utopia”,the way they see it.

                  They can find out whatever they want about a person. They’ll crawl up your ass with a magnifying glass,and tell you how long you’d be after Mary Rotten Crotch,before you finally got in her pants.

                  I’m not a supporter of Area 51 as far as aliens go. We test classified shit there. No. Nobody needs to know what’s going on there. They just need to know,the classified shit we test there,may save their ass one day.

                  Humans are an arrogant bunch. We think we’re the only life in a universe ,that we don’t know where it begins or ends. Too big to say we’re the only ones. If aliens have visited here,didn’t take them long to figure out,”no intelligent life here. These have got to be the dumbest mutha f–kers in the universe. That’s my take on that shit.

                  I’m not one to say 11 September was a conspiracy or not. I will question box cutters. Who was the inbred,billy Bob mutha f–ker that thought that one up ?

                  I don’t know how much money they spent on this operation,but it wasn’t cheap.

                  With all the money they had,nobody could afford to by “Plastiques”? They could drop money on strippers left and right ( yeah,those are the kind of assholes I’d want carrying out a real fragile operation like that),but no money for explosives? You could’ve gotten that shit on plane with no worries. Like I said,there’s too many red flags that went up on this shit. Nobody caught any of it.

                  I’d still like to know who rolled on that dipshit Osama . I saw how MI gets information outta people. We came up with a VC,that didn’t amount to much of anything. Those boys from MACV were Johnny on the spot with this one.

                  You’d be surprised how quick you can get people to talk,if you apply the proper amount of PSI. I swear this poor slob was makin shit up. Didn’t matter one way or another. They disposed of him,when they finished having fun. Thats probably how they’ve gotten a lot of these goat herders to roll.

                  I’m not saying any of what I’ve mentioned (I’ve got more questions too) proves conspiracy or not. It’s just shit,that don’t fit in here. Yeah they were some arrogant f–ks thinking they pulled the perfect crime,but arrogance at that level,you don’t go the Woolworth five and dime clearance rack with it either.

                  Well if nothing else,this proves as humans,we’re too stupid to actually figure out how to,”teach the world to sing,and buy them a f–kin Coke.

                  Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 3:06 pm

            • I did mention one of the goat f–Kees said he just wanted to learn how to get the plane airborne. That should’ve sent up a red flag there.

              Box cutters. Big damn deal. The son of a bitch should’ve followed John Dillengers example. All the money they spent on this operation,and they couldn’t a wood worker to whittle them a fake gun from a piece of wood.

              Last but not least. Has anyone ever heard of a zip gun. Improvised weapon. Yeah it’ll probably blow up on the user when he pulls the trigger,but the business end of that shell will hit something. Hell I might’ve actually been impressed with them if someone would’ve thought about hairspray and matches. They make a nifty little flame thrower.

              Comment by Tim — September 12, 2016 @ 1:47 pm

  6. ” Europhysics, the respected publication of the European physics community has published an article by scientists who conclude that “the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three [World Trade Center] buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.” Few American scientists can admit this, because their careers depend on US government and military/security complex research contracts. Independent scientists in the US are a vanishing breed, an endangered species.

    The scientists say that in view of their findings, “it is morally imperative” that “be the subject of a truly scientific and impartial investigation by responsible authorities.” http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016-47-4.pdf “.9/11.”

    Source: paulcraigroberts.org ( Sept.7,2016)

    Comment by Talbot — September 11, 2016 @ 6:30 am

    • You wrote: “the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three [World Trade Center] buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.”

      I agree with that statement.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 11, 2016 @ 6:53 am

  7. Comment by Jeff K. — September 10, 2016 @ 6:38 pm

    • I’ve never been much on conspiracy. I’ve always tried to learn the facts,and see if either side,might actually have reasons for their views on a subject.

      First off,I gotta say our relationship with this idiot Osama,is the classic,”wow! We didn’t see that shit coming at all” goof of all time. Think about it. These are the same idiots our wonderful Charlie Wilson ( House of Representatives ) helped get weapons to the afghans,so they could get the Reds out of Afghanistan. If Charlie could’ve stayed sober for more than one hour,he might have figured out,maybe we don’t wanna get to close to these people . In the end,Charlie wasn’t to concerned with the Afghans. He saw this as a way to get even with Moscow,for Nam.

      At any rate, I have to question osamas death. We never saw any pics of the goat f–kers dead body ( hey any other time,we love to show pics of dead enemy combatants). He was buried at sea. They gave him a burial off the ships fantail. They had his ass all wrapped in gauze. He looked like the mummy. I’ve read up on Islamic funerals. Nowhere did it say, they give them burials at sea.

      Since when did we actually give a shit about how the remains of the enemy are handled,after they die ? Is it possible they were actually concerned with how we handled Zippy the Pinheads remains ? I would find that hard to accept,but anything is possible. That’s the shit that’s always bugged me about that whole affair

      Comment by Tim — September 10, 2016 @ 9:23 pm

  8. Gawd, how do you people function in the real world?

    http://www.snopes.com/rumors/israel.asp

    Comment by Jeff K. — September 10, 2016 @ 5:57 pm

  9. The perpetrators who carried out the Twin Tower destructions were obviously deploying some kind of exotic technology that remains unknown to the general public, because the results that we saw in the short time frame could not possibly been achieved by conventional explosives or demolition charges.

    So we have to look elsewhere, and some researchers have suggested nuclear devices – or even mini-nukes – were used. That’s quite possible – but if “hot”, or thermo-nuclear fusion, or fission, explosions had occurred, then the results would have been catastrophic for the whole of Manhattan – not just the World Trade Centre. The area would have been left uninhabitable for years afterwards. Many people, especially those caught up in the pyroclastic dust clouds, would have suffered terrible burns and radiation scars, if not burnt to a cinder. But, instead, what we witnessed was people emerging from the dust clouds completely unharmed ( although we now know that many people, including members of the emergency services are suffering long-terms affects to their health after what they had breathed in). It looks suspiciously as if low-level radiation was being produced by the explosions – which could be the result of a “cold nuclear fusion” event.

    It was Dr. Judy Wood who first pointed out that the pyroclastic dust clouds were “cold” not scorching hot. But she has put forward theories about “Directed Energy Weapons” placed outside the WTC. I, myself, have always thought that what brought down the towers was internal to the buildings, and that is why I agree with Professor Jim Fetzer and his associates, who have suggested that it was nuclear devices placed inside the structures that atomised and vaporised all the steel, concrete, glass and fittings.

    I believe also, that the ideas put forward by Dr. Steven Jones of the 9/11 Truth Movement has deliberately led his followers down a cul-de-sac with his “nano-thermite” theories, and the reason for this, is because he himself was instrumental in the development of “cold nuclear fusion”, and wants to hide this secret process from the world!

    Wikipedia states;- “Steven E. Jones of Brigham Young University…had worked for some time on “muon-catalyzed fusion, a known method of inducing nuclear fusion without high temperatures.”

    Steven Jones in 1986, wrote a Review Article for the journal ‘NATURE’, in which he claimed;- “Muons introduced into relatively cold, dense deuterium-tritium mixtures can replace the much smaller atomic electrons and form muonic molecules which participate readily in nuclear fusion reactions. Catalysis yields of 150 fusions per muon have been achieved, renewing interest in muon-catalyzed fusion as a possible source of energy.”

    Note the date – 1986, but later that very same year, the “great and the good” of the scientific establishment pronounced that there was no future in cold fusion and declared it “Pathological Science” – basically telling everyone that the subject was out of bounds. ( is there even a veiled threat to scientists in the word “pathological” ?).

    But looky here – again from Wikipedia;- “Since 1989, US Navy researchers at the Space and Naval Warfare Center in San Diego have been studying cold fusion.”

    So, during the late-1980’s and 1990′s, when the world’s scientists were forbidden from investigating this area of research, Dear Old Uncle Sam plunged into it with gusto. We have to ask; did these military and National Security departments develop workable cold fusion devices during the decade prior to 9/11?

    It was Judy Wood who alerted us to the fact that hundreds of trucks were brought into Ground Zero, to dump tens of thousands of tons of earth over the WTC debris – was this done to smother and dampen down any residual nuclear reactions?. And a team of investigators have analysed the US Department of Energy water samples from Ground Zero, as well as the US Geological Survey of the dust samples. Both revealed isotopes from materials that could only be present after nuclear reactions – ( they don’t occur naturally after a conventional event ). Most of these isotopes could be attributed to nuclear fission, but the heavy amounts of Tritium suggest the residues of cold nuclear fusion.

    Comment by Talbot — September 10, 2016 @ 1:19 pm

    • I think the Death Star blew up the twin towers. Here’s the proof:

      Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 1:36 am

      • You wrote: “I think the Death Star blew up the twin towers.”

        You joke about this tragedy because you can’t admit that it was a Jew who did it.

        Comment by furtherglory — September 11, 2016 @ 6:56 am

        • Well,in a related story,some asshole that owns a mattress store in San Antonio did a mattress commercial for a 9/11 sale he was having. He f–led up big time with this commercial.

          In another story,the famous Life magazine picture of the Squid kissing the nurse in Times Square when they heard the Niponese surrendered ,passed on yesterday.

          Even though war is probably mans most f–ked up endeavor,there’s always a few bright spots (that moment in the photo being one) that let us know we’re still humans.

          It’s kinda bizzare when you think about it. After WW 1 the world changed,but nothing like it did after WW 2.

          The best summation I ever heard about post WW1,is that we as humans lost our innocence. Yeah when you start f–kin around with nuclear weapons,that’s pretty much gonna be the end result.

          I don’t agree with nukes,but we would’ve lost a lot of our boys if we had to invade Japan . I have the same attitude Brig. Gen. Tibbets had about using nukes.

          Gen. Tibbets said ,”it’s a terrible thing that the old people and children died,but we had to end the war”.

          I saw what a napalm strike can do when I was in Nam. That was enough for me. I sure as hell don’t want to witness first hand what a nuclear strike can do. The people that think shit like that is “cool”, don’t have the first f–kin clue

          Comment by Tim — September 11, 2016 @ 8:41 am

        • “You joke about this tragedy because you can’t admit that it was a Jew who did it.”

          I’m not joking about the tragedy. I remember that day very clearly.
          What I’m joking about the ridiculous “theories” about how this tragedy occurred.
          911 is an example of a successful conspiracy. The terrorists involved planned their attack and carried it out successfully, killing thousands of innocent people to make a political point. That’s what terrorists do. End of story.
          All of this talk about microwaves, 3,000 Jews that called in sick, insurance policies, Mossad involvement, etc., is all nonsense and frankly, disrespects the dead. Mixing in the anti-Semitism so that this tragedy fits your worldview minimizes this tragedy and excuses those actually responsible. That is also sad.

          Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 9:49 am

          • You wrote: “911 is an example of a successful conspiracy. The terrorists involved planned their attack and carried it out successfully, killing thousands of innocent people to make a political point. That’s what terrorists do. End of story.”

            I thought that Osama bin Laden planned the attack while he was sitting in a cave with 39 of his wives. Why did America kill Osama if not because he was behind the 9/11 attack?

            Comment by furtherglory — September 11, 2016 @ 10:26 am

            • “I thought that Osama bin Laden planned the attack while he was sitting in a cave with 39 of his wives. Why did America kill Osama if not because he was behind the 9/11 attack?”

              What are you talking about?
              Are you saying because he was in a cave somewhere he couldn’t plan an attack?
              Are you saying that terrorists need modern office buildings with air conditioning to plan attacks?

              It doesn’t matter where he planned it, the key is having the money and networks needed to pull something like this off. He possessed both.

              Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 11:06 am

          • You wrote: “Mixing in the anti-Semitism so that this tragedy fits your worldview minimizes this tragedy and excuses those actually responsible. That is also sad.”

            Who were “those actually responsible” for 9/11?”

            Comment by furtherglory — September 11, 2016 @ 10:33 am

            • Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda. I don’t think that’s so difficult to understand.

              Is the problem that they are Muslim and non-white? Are they not capable of such a thing?

              Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 1:43 pm

              • Timothy McVeigh should clear all that shit up.

                Comment by Tim — September 11, 2016 @ 3:23 pm

  10. Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11. Jews did.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — September 10, 2016 @ 9:46 am

    • You wrote: “Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11. Jews did.”

      What are you saying? Are you referring to the fact that the owner of the 9/11 buildings is Jewish, and that the owner and 3,000 other Jews stayed home that day, leading some people to think that they had been told that the buildings had been wired to come down.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 10, 2016 @ 9:53 am

    • Correct – Jews in America and in Israel were heavily involved in this outrage.

      https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9-11/Israel_did_it

      Comment by Talbot — September 10, 2016 @ 10:39 am

      • You wrote: “Jews in America and in Israel were heavily involved in this [9-11] outrage.”

        I think that it was only the Jewish owner of the buildings that was involved. He wanted to build a new, higher building, in that spot, which he did.

        Comment by furtherglory — September 10, 2016 @ 10:50 am

        • As long as we’re talking about dates worthy to note,don’t forget the USMC. They’ll be 241 years young this November 11.

          Comment by Tim — September 10, 2016 @ 11:02 am

        • Certainly he was heavily involved, but the conspiracy must have been much wider than him and his immediate henchmen, because the US authorities would have carried out a proper investigation of the event, and thus it would not have been very long before he would have been implicated and arrested.

          And how could this small circle of property developers have organised a conspiracy that involved American and United airline flights out of Boston, Newark and Washington DC; then carry out an attack on the Pentagon; and be involved in a fourth flight that ended mysteriously in Pennsylvania.

          It is clear, therefore, that senior personnel working in different departments of the US government were involved in allowing the attacks to take place beforehand; facilitating the event on 9/11 itself by grounding all military interceptor aircraft; and then orchestrating an immense cover-up.

          The Wikispooks website above makes it very clear that many of the key personnel in the US government at that time were dual US/Israeli citizens, who could, and did, manage the immense repercussions from the 9/11 event.

          Comment by Talbot — September 10, 2016 @ 1:45 pm

      • No. I was wrong. It was angry birds:

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 1:38 am

  11. I was watching the “Today Show”( that was before I figured out they were cut throat liberals). I saw the plane hit the tower in real time behind ol Katie Couric. The first thing I thought,”a napalm strike ain’t got shit on that. This is the coolest thing I’ve ever seen”.

    Well,whoever thought something like that could happen. I guess unless you were in one of the buildings,kissing the nose of one of those planes,the shit would be far to real to accept it for what it was.

    I still have questions about that idiot Osama . Since when have we become concerned about giving the enemy a burial at sea? Far as that goes,when did we ever give a shit about the enemy period?

    Comment by Tim — September 10, 2016 @ 8:51 am

  12. I’ve never gotten into the 911 debate because of the complexity of it.
    Too many things just don’t make sense….FG….You mention when you woke up you saw planes (plural) hinting the towers in the news footage that was [laying at the time.
    I have a problem with that because there were NO video of the first plane hitting the first building at that time. That video didn’t show up until later. The did seem to get video of the second plane second tower as it happened later. I personally think the videos have been manipulated with.
    I also have a problem with the demolition theory as the building being wired, where are the remnants of the wiring? There would be thousands of feet of wiring, which is made in bright colors, have you seen any remnants of wiring.
    I have a lot more issues but won’t waste my time with them, but will say something above ordinary happened here and thats why I feel that Dr. Judy Woods has the best explanation I’ve come across so far. She feels the buildings were by some outside source “dustified” turned to dust because if you look closely the buildings were not pancaking down but dissolving right in front of us.
    Most of the 911 movement are vehemently against her, and that is concern for me. Why would they be so against her? You would think they would welcome here research but they call her a quack.
    No lets take this a step further and relate it to us Holohoax deniers…..Who is against us and who are for us, and what are the facts?
    On all controversial topics you just have to follow the money, and you will see deeper what the real issues are.
    Why is Dr. Judy Wood opposed? Why are Holohoax Revisionist opposed? Then look at the attempts to stop the investigation or make it look like the investigators are nuts. In life nothing changes except the topic being discussed. Same resistance to the truth coming out and more demonizing of the people who are trying to bring the truth out.

    JR

    Comment by Jim Rizoli — September 10, 2016 @ 8:44 am

    • Comment by hermie — September 10, 2016 @ 8:51 am

      • I’ve already solved this, damn it.

        The Death Star attacked initially:

        Angry Birds finished it off:

        😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 11, 2016 @ 1:46 am

    • You wrote: “You mention when you woke up you saw planes (plural) hinting the towers in the news footage that was [laying at the time.
      I have a problem with that because there were NO video of the first plane hitting the first building at that time. That video didn’t show up until later.”

      You are correct. I didn’t see the first plane actually hit the tower. But I do recall seeing this footage later. I do remember being very afraid because I thought that America was under attack by a foreign country.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 10, 2016 @ 8:57 am


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