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September 13, 2016

Denial is not a river in Egypt

Filed under: Holocaust, movies, World War II — furtherglory @ 8:46 am

Denial is the title of a new movie about Debra Lipstadt’s lawsuit against David Irving.

You can read about the new movie in this news article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/09/13/tiff-toronto-rachel-weisz-denial-holocaust/90296080/

The following quote is from the news article:

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In ‘Denial,’ a university professor [Debra Lipstadt] writes a book about people who deny the Holocaust ever happened. One of the deniers [David Irving] suddenly sues her for libel. They both fight to prove their version of history in this film based on a true story.

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David Irving denies that the room. shown in my 2005  photo above, is  a  homicidal gas chamber

The news article continues with this quote:

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The stakes are high: In English civil courts, the burden of proof in libel cases is on the defendant, and if Irving had won, it would have legitimized anyone who claimed the Holocaust was fabricated. Astoundingly, that means Lipstadt’s legal team had to prove the Holocaust occurred. “The film is about the fight for truth in general,” says Weisz, who flew to Toronto on her day off from rehearsing her upcoming off-Broadway play, Plenty.

Denial takes dialogue verbatim from trial records (Irving argues forcefully that there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz). Weisz, who identifies as Jewish, filmed at Auschwitz, chronicling a trip that Lipstadt and her Scottish power lawyer (Tom Wilkinson) took for research. “It’s the first time they’ve ever let anyone film there” for anything other than a documentary, says Weisz, who had never been to the death camp before.

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12 Comments »

  1. Denial is not a river in Egypt? Yet the Holohoax parted the Red Sea (OK, not the real Red Sea but still doors closed by the British; no small achievement) once again…😉

    Comment by hermie — September 13, 2016 @ 4:03 pm

    • Yeah. Science pretty much proved how the Red Sea parted. I still scratch my head over, ” wandering in the desert for 40 years”.

      I’ve heard walking around the world could take anywhere between 5 to 10 years ( part of the walking is done by boat of course). The Jews however,were lost in the dessert for 40 years? What a bunch of ignorant shits. They want us to buy that crock of shit. WTF! Can’t find H2O in the desert. People are gonna drop like flies. I know. They left out the part about the shitload of tanker trucks behind them,that were filled with water.

      No sympathy from me,if that’s the best BS story they can come up with. All the Dinks fleeing South Vietnam,when Saigon fell,is more heartbreaking than their shit sorry story . Once again though,let’s not forget,the Jews wrote that shit,not the followers of Christ.

      Comment by Tim — September 14, 2016 @ 9:23 am

      • Jews don’t found their lies and myths on their intrinsic credibility. They found them on repetition. A lie repeated often enough…

        Comment by hermie — September 15, 2016 @ 3:52 am

        • I’ve got 2 quotes about lies I’ve always liked. I don’t know who said the first one,but it goes like this.” A lie will make it half way around the world,while the truth is still putting its pants on.”

          The other comes from Napoleon.” History is a set of lies agreed upon”.

          Comment by Tim — September 15, 2016 @ 9:38 am

          • Who’s the author of the first quote? Churchill?

            Comment by hermie — September 15, 2016 @ 8:24 pm

            • I’m not sure who quoted it. That’s not verbatim. The quote was basically a lie is miles down the road,before the truth is even acknowledged. That’s what the quote meant to me.

              I do know of one quote that P M Churchill made. “History is written by the victors”. Makes sense to me. Who cares what the defeated have to say about the history of a war. Everybody loves a winner. We only get one side of the story,so how can we totally accept what history said is the truth ?

              Comment by Tim — September 15, 2016 @ 9:00 pm

              • Tim wrote: “I’m not sure who quoted it. That’s not verbatim. The quote was basically a lie is miles down the road, before the truth is even acknowledged. That’s what the quote meant to me.”

                My memory served me right. Indeed something Churchill said.

                Here is the exact quote:

                Tim wrote: “I do know of one quote that P M Churchill made. “History is written by the victors”. Makes sense to me. Who cares what the defeated have to say about the history of a war. Everybody loves a winner. We only get one side of the story, so how can we totally accept what history said is the truth ?”

                Churchill didn’t try to conceal that. He said:

                A significant amount of what has been told about WW2, comes from his memoirs, i.e. from his novelized self-revering account of that war.

                Scoundrel…

                (Ian Colvin is the guy who threw England into the bed of the Polish “Colonels’ Regime” in late March 1939 through false information about a nonexistent imminent German invasion of Poland.)

                Comment by hermie — September 16, 2016 @ 8:15 am

                • I took a stab at the quote being by Papa Joe. I should’ve known better. Joe Stalin doesn’t have a sense of humor. I mean this is the fool that give us quotes like,”death solves all problems. No man,no problem” or ” the only real power,comes from a rifle”. My favorite one is,”it takes more courage for an army to retreat,than it does for them to advance”. Damn straight! You retreat in Joe Stalins army,your ass is gonna end up being shot. And they say the German army was hardcore.

                  When juxtaposed you can see,even though Churchills comments were on the money,they still came across a bit humorous.

                  When Joe Stalin makes a comment,he’s pretty direct. Not that I’m a big fan of Hitler,everyone will chose to beat up on him and his comments,long before they consider dragging Joe Stalin through the mud. Stalin made some comments,that were a helluva lot more inflammatory,than what Hitler could ever come up with.

                  Comment by Tim — September 16, 2016 @ 8:35 am

  2. Rachel ain’t never been to the nazi prisons before? Now she’ll probably become the single authority on history.

    That’s how I’ve seen actors and actresses roll after they do a movie based on history. However she didn’t say much about Vasili Zaitsev after she did enemy at the gates. Then again you can only get so much mileage out of a dead Ruskie sniper.

    I did see something in here that falls into the ,”why don’t that surprise me” catagory.

    It said if dog face lost her trial,then all the people that say the holo is BS. Wouldn’t have to worry about being hammered by the law dogs.

    China and Nam may suck,but at least they have sense enough to know holo laws are BS. There’s no holo denial laws there.

    I did find the Fredrick Toben story interesting. It shows how nutless the Brits are. They have no holo laws in the UK,but the courts that do have them in their country,play England like a fiddle.

    That tears it. Take away England’s tea and biscuits

    Comment by Tim — September 13, 2016 @ 1:45 pm

  3. Courtroom science, courtroom history. Much the same thing.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — September 13, 2016 @ 10:47 am

    • You wrote: “Courtroom science, courtroom history. Much the same thing.”

      Nobody knows what you mean.

      Comment by furtherglory — September 13, 2016 @ 1:30 pm

      • I can say this about courtroom science. They want judges to have a working knowledge of like,DNA for example.

        Decomposition of a body. Just a basic knowledge. Everyone can pretty much tell a person basic shit about those 2 topics . So what’s the point in the judge knowing anything about the shit?

        They said a lot of that came about after OJs trial. At any rate,that’s what I’ve heard.

        Comment by Tim — September 13, 2016 @ 1:52 pm


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