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September 22, 2016

the story of Jews getting off a train near Magdeburg is back in the news

Filed under: Holocaust, World War II — furtherglory @ 3:19 pm
The cover of a book about Holocaust survivors

The cover of Matt Rozell’s book about Holocaust survivors who were rescued from a train

The photo above shows Holocaust survivors who have been rescued from certain death. These women and children are not returning from a fashion show, as one might think, judging from the clothes that they are wearing.

The following quote is from a news story about the photo shown above:

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HUDSON FALLS — Matt Rozell’s first book [not the book in this story] is ranked higher on the Kindle World War II best-sellers list than famed author Laura Hillenbrand’s “Unbroken.”

It seems, then, a good time for the release of the Hudson Falls High School history teacher’s second book, “A Train Near Magdeburg: A Teacher’s Journey into the Holocaust and the Reuniting of the Survivors and Liberators, 70 Years On.”

Rozell has dedicated much of his career to leading his students through research on World War II, interviewing veterans and recording their stories (many of which are featured in his successful book, “The Things Our Father Saw: The Untold Stories of the World War II Generation from Hometown USA”).

One afternoon in 2001, he was interviewing World War II veteran Carrol Walsh.

“It was two hours worth of horrific World War II stories, being in a tank, being in combat constantly for 10 months with a lot of close calls,” Rozell recalled. “Then his daughter chimed in, ‘Did you tell him about the train?'”

Walsh was among U.S. soldiers at the scene of the liberation of a death train in a small town outside Madgeburg, Germany, in 1945. The retired state Supreme Court justice gave Rozell the name of a veteran who had a camera that day.

Rozell reached out to George Gross and discovered a photograph that would forever change his life and, in a small way, history.

Rozell posted the photograph — a woman running uphill away from the train, holding the hand of a child, surrounded by other Holocaust survivors — with Gross’ permission, on the school’s website. It received little attention.

Four years later, an Australian grandmother called Rozell, saying she was a 7-year-old on the train when it was liberated.

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18 Comments »

  1. The woman in the head shawl coming up the embankment looks exactly my grandma when she returned home from the elderly folk’s day center after winning 10 dollars on the afternoon bingo session. She, too, had her arms fully outstretched as she came up the front garden path full of unconstrained glee and happiness.

    Comment by Talbot — September 23, 2016 @ 7:59 am

    • . This is conjecture of course,but I say she just got of the horn with Edgar Cayce.

      Edgar told her exactly how the Jews would f–k over the gentile from the end of WW2,until the end of time .

      He also told her,The Beatles will be playing at The Hollywood Bowl.

      Comment by Tim — September 24, 2016 @ 9:07 am

  2. “Being in constant combat”. Whatever. An instructor of mine at jungle warfare school told us,” in a 24 hour period,while on patrol,you’ll have 23 1/2 hours of boredom,followed by 30 minutes of sheer terror. I can’t say the 30 minutes of sheer terror is accurate,it seemed more like the “23 1/2 hour part”,to me.

    Tanks didn’t work to well in Southeast Asia. So I can’t really say
    how long a tank battle would last. I don’t think,”constantly in combat”,would be stretching it a bit.

    So one of the guys in that division just happened to have a camera. Wasn’t he the lucky bastard. Where was this train coming from? Wherever it was coming from,those 2 in the front,look like they’ve had regular meals.

    Why is it,this story is never bought up ( well,this is the only place I’ve read the story. That don’t mean that since I’ve never seen it elsewhere,doesn’t mean it’s not out there).

    I’ve always heard,the average soldier,didn’t really know shit of the prisons. If that is the case,how were the soldiers to know what was on the cattle cars? Why didn’t they just roll on past the train?

    Comment by Tim — September 22, 2016 @ 5:57 pm

    • Tim wrote: “Where was this train coming from? Wherever it was coming from, those 2 in the front,look like they’ve had regular meals.”

      I think this train was coming from Belsen, i.e. the place where a terrible typhus epidemic was pictorially/graphically turned into an alleged planned extermination by starvation and so where the Nazi gas chambers and the Holocaust in general were ‘proved’ in most people’s mind.

      Comment by hermie — September 22, 2016 @ 9:25 pm

      • Well if that was the orgin of the train,those two at the front of the pack,must’ve been immune to the shit. They look pretty healthy to me.

        Comment by Tim — September 23, 2016 @ 7:08 am

        • I wrote another blog post about the train. https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/10/29/one-of-the-40-most-powerful-photos-ever-taken-jews-liberated-from-a-train-at-farsleben/

          The prisoners were coming from Bergen-Belsen.

          Comment by furtherglory — September 23, 2016 @ 7:28 am

          • Aside from the lady and child in the front,the lady in the background is the one that really got me.

            She’s got a “cat that ate the canary,shit eating grin on her face”. She’s making these big arm movements.

            I know In the overall scheme of thing,that don’t prove anything. However considering the shithole they just came from,I’d expect her to have a bit of a bewildered look on her face,like the lady and child in the foreground of the picture.

            Comment by Tim — September 23, 2016 @ 7:37 am

        • Tim wrote: “those two at the front of the pack, must’ve been immune to the shit. They look pretty healthy to me.”

          I wouldn’t say immune but lucky. Since the Belsen ‘Black Hole’ (as the British army put it at that time) was mainly the result of depleting epidemics, there were roughly 2 kinds of inmates: the sick ones who looked like skeletons (more or less depending on the stage of the disease) and the healthy ones who looked like you and me. If the Belsen ‘Black Hole’ had been the result of a deliberate extermination by starvation, all the inmates would have looked like skeletons. But since it was not, there were the lucky healthy inmates and the unlucky sick ones. The job of Allied propagandists was to show the sick ones and hide the healthy ones for distorsion purposes, or in other words to illumine only one side of the stage for their horror show. Basic propaganda trick…

          Comment by hermie — September 23, 2016 @ 9:18 am

          • Well whose the one at the back of picture making the big arm movements? Yeah she looks likes she’s missed a few meals.

            She got a big shit eatin grin on her face. I’m not saying it’s impossible for her to be in a giddy mood,but everyone else seems to be in a state of bewilderment . She looks like she just come back from a night at the opera ( not to be confused with the album by Queen “a Night at the Opera”).

            Comment by Tim — September 23, 2016 @ 3:52 pm

            • You wrote: “she looks likes she’s missed a few meals.”

              The woman to whom you are referring is overweight because she was overweight when she arrived at the camp. I don’t think that any of the prisoners GAINED weight in the camps, unless they were under weight when they arrived.

              Comment by furtherglory — September 23, 2016 @ 6:37 pm

              • I think Tim was referring to the smiling woman on the left, FG. She rather looked quite underweight IMO.

                Comment by hermie — September 23, 2016 @ 7:22 pm

                • Bingo ! Correct sir.

                  Comment by Tim — September 23, 2016 @ 9:14 pm

      • You wrote: “I think this train was coming from Belsen”

        That is correct.

        I have a whole section about Bergen-Belsen on my website at
        http://www.scrapbookpages.com/BergenBelsen/index.html

        Comment by furtherglory — September 23, 2016 @ 7:18 am

        • Thanks for confirming my words, FG. Knowledgeable help always appreciated.

          Comment by hermie — September 23, 2016 @ 9:26 am

  3. “the liberation of a death train in a small town outside Madgeburg”

    Besides their knowledge that their claims will never be challenged in mainstream media and academic storytelling, what is their justification for calling this specific train a ‘death train?’

    Even the US Holocaust Memorial Museum calls this train an evacuation train, not a ‘death train’ (http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa1176825).

    Comment by hermie — September 22, 2016 @ 5:32 pm

    • Maybe it was called a “death train” because the Allied aircraft had shot up the railway tracks forcing the train to come to a standstill out in the middle of nowhere. And because no supplies of food, water and medical aid could get through, then the weak, elderly and sick ones on board started to die.

      But anyway – we’ve now got “Trains of Death” in our holocaust lexicon, to go with “death marches”, “death camps” “stairway of death” “gate of death”, and of course the “angel of death” – bad ol’ Doctor Mengele himself !

      Comment by Talbot — September 23, 2016 @ 4:10 am

      • With so much death occurring in this holocaust, it truly is a wonder how anyone survived at all. But maybe long after the war was over, the deceased victims discovered that there was great financial gain and oceans of sympathy and personal credit awarded to those who were fortunate enough to have survived; and consequently, they themselves – from beyond the mass graves – found sufficient spiritual strength to return from the realm of the dead, and re-join the rest of us in the land of the living, by performing a countless series of miraculous resurrections.

        Comment by Talbot — September 23, 2016 @ 7:15 am

        • This has always been the way I looked at it. If you’re fighting a war,and the only folks on your side are Japan and Italy ( the remainder of the world being against you) why would you devote so much time to killing people,that are non combatants?

          Think about it. There’s a shitload of money going into manpower and money on these prisons. If nothing else,wouldn’t you at least want to free up the manpower for the war effort?

          Comment by Tim — September 23, 2016 @ 7:43 am


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