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September 26, 2016

The failed Jewish plot to kill Nazis

Filed under: Germany, World War II — furtherglory @ 10:29 am

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Sinwell tower in Nuremberg is shown in my photo above

A Jewish plot to kill Nazis is back in the news. You can read about it at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/31/jewish-holocaust-survivor-kill-nazis-poison-arsenic-nuremburg

This quote is from the news article:

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Seventy years after the most daring attempt of Jewish Holocaust survivors to seek revenge, the leader of the plot has only one simple regret – that to his knowledge he didn’t actually kill any Nazis.

Joseph Harmatz is one of the few remaining Jewish “Avengers” who carried out a mass poisoning of former SS men in an American-run prisoner-of-war camp in 1946 that sickened more than 2,200 Germans but ultimately caused no known deaths. A recently declassified US military report obtained by the Associated Press has only added to the mystery of why the brazen operation did not kill Nazis, because it shows the amount of arsenic used should have been fatal to tens of thousands.

[…]

The mission was simple.

“Kill Germans,” Harmatz said flatly.

How many?

“As many as possible,” he quickly replied.

The first idea described by Harmatz was initiated by the resistance fighter and poet Abba Kovner: to poison the water supply of Nuremberg. But there were deep reservations even among the Avengers that such an operation would bring mass death to innocent Germans and undermine international support for the eventual creation of the state of Israel. Either way, when Kovner sailed for Europe with the poison, he drew suspicion from British authorities and was forced to toss it overboard.

So attention shifted toward Plan B, a more limited operation that specifically targeted the worst Nazi perpetrators.

[…]

Undercover members of the group found work at a bakery that supplied the Stalag 13 POW camp at Langwasser, near Nuremberg. On 13 April 1946, using poison procured from one of Kovner’s associates, three members spent two hours coating some 3,000 loaves of bread with arsenic. The goal was to kill 12,000 SS personnel, and Harmatz oversaw the operation from outside the bakery.

“The terrible tragedy was about to be forgotten, and if you don’t punish for one crime, you will get another,” explained Dina Porat, the chief historian at Israel’s Yad Vashem memorial, who is about to publish a book on the Avengers. “This is what was driving them, not only justice but a warning, a warning to the world that you cannot hurt Jews in such a manner and get away with it.”

Under German regulations, authorities in Nuremberg later investigated Harmatz and Leipke Distal, who worked undercover in the bakery for months, after they revealed details of the operation in a 1999 television documentary. The prosecutors eventually concluded that even though there was an attempted murder they would not file charges because of the “extraordinary circumstances”.

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Nuremberg church that was bombed in World War II

Nuremberg church that was bombed in World War II

I was very interested in this story because, when I lived in Germany for 20 months after World War II, the house where I lived was 9 miles from Nuremberg. I used to walk the 9 miles, and back, very frequently.

I took photos of Nuremberg and put them on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Nurnberg/Nurnberg09.html

While I was living in Germany, I learned how to pronounce the word Nürnberg correctly, but don’t worry: if you mispronounce the word, the Germans are too polite to correct you.

 

 

123 Comments »

  1. You wrote: “request what you want me to cover”

    Could you tell us exactly what happened from the time that the Jews were put into boxcars and taken to Auschwitz?

    Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 5:33 pm

    • You are talking about the March 1942 train? Correct?

      This was the first major arrival at Auschwitz Birkinau.

      What details about it specifically?until March 1942 the main body of prisoners was Polish. This slowly transferred over to Jews though especially in Auschwitz 2.

      On a rough guess they most likely were put to work, and possibly a small portion of them were gassed in the Bunkers. Krema 2 was not operational yet.

      Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 7:23 pm

      • ” On a rough guess they most likely were put to work, and possibly a small portion… ”

        There! you are using “damned speculation” – something you accused me of doing not even 24 hours ago. But I’m not complaining, because often when it comes to this “holocaust”, the lack of any real evidence means that all of us often have to work in the realm of conjecture, deduction, and informed speculation.

        Comment by Talbot — September 28, 2016 @ 3:40 am

        • Lol Tal think about how broad this request is. The first shipment of Jews. To which Auschwits? There were 3! Does she mean before the major deportations or not?

          Comment by Denying-History — September 28, 2016 @ 3:52 am

        • Like Hoess said “the first transport of Silesian Jews gassed”. This was the 1942 transport… I think it’s logical to assume ether the whole were gassed in the bunkers or some were sent to work. Most workers during this period were Polish so I guess they were still working.

          It’s more so the vagueness of her question.

          Comment by Denying-History — September 28, 2016 @ 4:02 am

  2. “Denying-Reality wrote: “He will most likely be back. I believe he took the day off to read a bit about the doctors plot.”

    “Is it too much asked the Hasbara trolls on this blog to try at least to make as if they have no weekly meetings for planning & briefing purposes?”

    Oops, you caught us. Our last couple of meetings have been about you. We are trying to figure out the best way to effectively ruin your life.

    Be on the lookout. The Mossad will be there any day………I’d stock up on some industrial sized lube if I was you.

    Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 3:07 pm

    • lol This is what we call someone who is full of shit. Otherwise known a Hermie Impersonating Jeff.

      Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:03 pm

      • 😂

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 4:10 pm

    • Just kidding, anyway good to see you back Jeff.

      Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:05 pm

      • “Just kidding, anyway good to see you back Jeff.”

        I knew that Hermie would miss me, that’s why I came back.

        BTW, I missed you at our Hasbara meeting today. Try not to miss too often, we are at a critical stage of “Operation Hermie.”

        😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 4:16 pm

  3. Hermie:
    “I know that. He even spread Furtherglory’s private emails on that forum some time ago. But Jeff K emphatically denies on this blog that he’s the Jeff 1970 of Skeptic. Thanks for ruining his so ingenious cover (which never deceived me; don’t worry).”

    Now I’m fucking pissed.

    Let’s resolve this right now.

    I have e-mail alerts set up when I receive REPLIES from FG and others from this blog. There is a fucking radial button at the bottom of the comments that even says “Notify me of new comments via email.”
    I have the same thing set up through Skeptics Forum, this allows me to keep track of comments and topics.

    Any and all comments on this blog are a matter of public record. I shared a comment that FG made to me. That comment is a matter of public record. I misspoke when I said “e-mail” and subsequently corrected this at the urging of the moderator. This was an error on my part.

    So, in other words, fuck you, Hermie. Comments on blogs and forums are public and are frequently shared on blogs and forums. This happens a great deal. Any insinuation that I shared a private communication between FG and myself are incorrect, my wording was incorrect and corrected by me in good faith.

    Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 2:57 pm

    • “But Jeff K emphatically denies on this blog that he’s the Jeff 1970 of Skeptic. Thanks for ruining his so ingenious cover (which never deceived me; don’t worry).”

      Show me, right now, where I have denied this. I’ve even posted links showing where I’ve posted under Jeffk 1970.

      Good grief you are a bigger fucking loon than I’ve given you credit for.

      Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 3:02 pm

    • Jeff K970 wrote: “Now I’m fucking pissed.”
      😮

      Prof. Kross Section wrote: “Let’s resolve this right now.”

      Yep. Let’s do that.

      J. Fucking Pissed wrote: “I have e-mail alerts set up when I receive REPLIES from FG and others from this blog. There is a fucking radial button at the bottom of the comments that even says “Notify me of new comments via email.” I have the same thing set up through Skeptics Forum, this allows me to keep track of comments and topics. Any and all comments on this blog are a matter of public record. I shared a comment that FG made to me. That comment is a matter of public record. I misspoke when I said “e-mail” and subsequently corrected this at the urging of the moderator. This was an error on my part. So, in other words, fuck you, Hermie. Comments on blogs and forums are public and are frequently shared on blogs and forums. This happens a great deal. Any insinuation that I shared a private communication between FG and myself are incorrect, my wording was incorrect and corrected by me in good faith.”

      I had not seen the whole editing job and follow-up yet. Nice story, J. Almost plausible. But…

      If you just posted a public comment as you claim, why did you reply “I didn’t consider that. Bad move in my part, does this need to be deleted?” when Pyrrho asked “Hmm. Do you have the person’s permission to publicly post their emails?”

      And when Pyrrho later said “Even private correspondence requires permission. Public posts can be excerpted and commented upon,” why did you just reply “Again, sorry about that. Are my changes OK? I can modify further if needed.”? Do you often apologize for things you didn’t do? Are you posting your comments from the gaols of Nuremberg or Jerusalem??? (Type 6 asterisks as a secret code for “A Nazi interrogator is forcing me to apologize for things I didn’t do.”)😉😉😉

      Or that was only because “It’s fun to trap her (furtherglory) on stuff”?

      http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27161

      Perhaps furtherglory will speak in and tell her side of this episode…

      Comment by hermie — September 27, 2016 @ 6:23 pm

      • J. Fucking Pissed wrote: “I have e-mail alerts set up when I receive REPLIES from FG and others from this blog. There is a fucking radial button at the bottom of the comments that even says “Notify me of new comments via email.” I have the same thing set up through Skeptics Forum, this allows me to keep track of comments and topics. Any and all comments on this blog are a matter of public record. I shared a comment that FG made to me. That comment is a matter of public record. I misspoke when I said “e-mail” and subsequently corrected this at the urging of the moderator. This was an error on my part. So, in other words, fuck you, Hermie. Comments on blogs and forums are public and are frequently shared on blogs and forums. This happens a great deal. Any insinuation that I shared a private communication between FG and myself are incorrect, my wording was incorrect and corrected by me in good faith.”

        “I had not seen the whole editing job and follow-up yet. Nice story, J. Almost plausible. But…

        If you just posted a public comment as you claim, why did you reply “I didn’t consider that. Bad move in my part, does this need to be deleted?” when Pyrrho asked “Hmm. Do you have the person’s permission to publicly post their emails?”

        And when Pyrrho later said “Even private correspondence requires permission. Public posts can be excerpted and commented upon,” why did you just reply “Again, sorry about that. Are my changes OK? I can modify further if needed.”? Do you often apologize for things you didn’t do? Are you posting your comments from the gaols of Nuremberg or Jerusalem??? (Type 6 asterisks as a secret code for “A Nazi interrogator is forcing me to apologize for things I didn’t do.”)😉😉 ;-)”

        As I explained, the comment was public and can be seen by anyone.

        For example, this is what I get when you reply to me:

        hermie commented on The failed Jewish plot to kill Nazis.

        in response to Jeff K.:

        That is the format. You’ll note that this is a public communication. I’m not hiding anything from anyone.

        “Or that was only because “It’s fun to trap her (furtherglory) on stuff”?

        http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27161

        Perhaps furtherglory will speak in and tell her side of this episode…”

        Sure. You’ll also note that all comments are public. I’m not hiding anything from anyone.

        As I’ve stated, I have Jim Rizoli’s e-mail address. He and I have corresponded. That’s not a state secret but his e-mail address IS private. I’ve not shared that with anyone. But, the fact is we discussed giving each other our addresses ON THIS BLOG so anyone who reads that will know.
        However, I have not and will not share his actual address because I consider that given in confidence (even though Jim is not shy about giving out his information).
        So, give it up, loon.

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 6:50 pm

        • As unconvincing and pathetic as possible…

          Comment by hermie — September 28, 2016 @ 3:28 am

          • “As unconvincing and pathetic as possible…”

            Like Holocaust denial.

            Comment by Jeff K. — September 28, 2016 @ 5:49 am

            • 6-year-old kid’s reply. Rubbish repartee. Quite sad.

              Comment by hermie — September 28, 2016 @ 2:29 pm

              • “in response to Jeff K.:

                “As unconvincing and pathetic as possible…” Like Holocaust denial.

                “6-year-old kid’s reply. Rubbish repartee. Quite sad.”

                Quite sad. Just like HD.

                Comment by Jeff K. — September 28, 2016 @ 2:38 pm

      • “Jeff K970 wrote: “Now I’m fucking pissed.”

        You messed up. I’m actually Jeffk 1970.

        Now, show me where I’ve denied using this login.

        Or, is this going to be one of those instances where you spout off with no proof?

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 6:55 pm

        • Jeff wrote: “You messed up. I’m actually Jeffk 1970. Now, show me where I’ve denied using this login.”

          It seems I did indeed messed up and I misremembered that. I mixed you up with another Jeff from skepticforum – Jeff 36 (https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/is-donald-trump-the-new-hitler/#comment-68329). Understandable. What is more like a pseudo-skeptic Jeff than another pseudo-skeptic Jeff after all?

          Comment by hermie — September 28, 2016 @ 3:25 am

          • “It seems I did indeed messed up and I misremembered that. I mixed you up with another Jeff from skepticforum – Jeff 36 (https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/is-donald-trump-the-new-hitler/#comment-68329). Understandable. What is more like a pseudo-skeptic Jeff than another pseudo-skeptic Jeff after all?”

            Ordinarily I’d let this go, after all, I’ve made mistakes as well.
            But because you are being such a whiny crybaby I’ll tell you to pay more attention next time, dumbass.

            Comment by Jeff K. — September 28, 2016 @ 5:45 am

            • Jeff wrote: “But because you are being such a whiny crybaby I’ll tell you to pay more attention next time, dumbass.”

              And FG still believes that you’re a debater while you’re patently just another cyber agent provocateur!? Amazing!!

              Still persevering, I see. Not yet understood that it doesn’t work with me?

              Comment by hermie — September 28, 2016 @ 2:35 pm

              • “And FG still believes that you’re a debater while you’re patently just another cyber agent provocateur!? Amazing!!”

                What’s amazing is that you can function in the real world. Your paranoid delusions are so developed I wouldn’t be surprised that you are hiding in your mother’s basement with a tin foil hat on.

                “Still persevering, I see. Not yet understood that it doesn’t work with me?”

                I honestly don’t care.
                I do enjoy egging you on so that you sink further and further into your delusions.

                So far you think:
                1) I’m Jewish.
                I’m not.
                2) I’m Hasbara.
                I’m not.
                3) I’m some sort of agent provocateur.
                I’m not.

                Now, that’ll be the last time I’ll address that for a bit. I’ll simply go back to mocking you over it because, frankly, I find that funny as hell.

                Comment by Jeff K. — September 28, 2016 @ 2:49 pm

      • Oh, and Hermie?

        https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/08/02/jews-still-lying-about-heinrich-himmler-after-all-these-years/#comment-68887

        Public comments, anyone can access them.

        Anything else you want to run to mommy about? Are FG’s skirts big enough for you to hide in?

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 7:01 pm

      • I dedicate this to you, Hermie:

        http://images.memes.com/meme/358920

        Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 7:09 pm

  4. Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 8:15 am

    • Compare this With your photograph Eah.

      Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 8:15 am

    • No real permanent damage compared, and one only has to see Hoess’s condition at Nuremberg.

      He was beat, but not tortured anywhere close to modern day standards of torture.

      Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 8:24 am

      • and one only has to see Hoess’s condition at Nuremberg

        What does his later condition have to do with the fact he may have been — and almost certainly was — earlier brutalized into signing whatever was put in front of him? — not to mention the likely threats to his family.

        No photograph show damage to Hoess’s face

        The foto I posted clearly shows he has a seriously bloodied nose, as well as numerous cuts and abrasions on his face — you can see the fear in his eyes.

        Did you read where numerous German prisoners had their testicles destroyed? — what normal foto would have showed that?

        Lastly, fuck off you dishonest, infantile little prick.

        Comment by eah — September 27, 2016 @ 10:02 am

        • The condition of Hoess at Nuremberg shows no serious damage was done.

          He also signed a document in German not English. That document was translated into a number of documents.

          No evidence exists for threats against his family. Just so you are aware.

          No photo shows serious damage such as cuts or brutal blows which might cause death. A bloody nose is child’s play compared to modern day torture.

          Lastly you are the fucking liar here.

          Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 10:21 am

  5. *black rabbit and Mattogno

    Anyway that aide I want to tell you something. Only 2 pieces of legitimate evidence for Hoess’s torture exist.

    1) The Hoess memoir in which he describes not being fed the same rations as everyone near him and that his neighboring cell mates were fed leftovers.

    2) And Rupert Butler, whom said that Hoess was beat.

    Other then this you only have a piece of hearsay contained in a document which is flaunted around by Robert Faurisson. (Yet he seems unwilling to release it. And even if he does this would be calling hearsay evidence… That would be a plight for the revisionist movement.)

    Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 9:37 pm

    • 2 pieces of legitimate evidence

      I assume you mean direct evidence re Höss specifically — perhaps — nonetheless, it is known that mistreatment and torture, some of it rather brutal, was widespread:

      Judge Edward L. Van Roden — American Atrocities in Germany

      Our investigators would put a black hood over the accused’s head and then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him, and beat him with rubber hose. Many of the German defendants had teeth knocked out. Some had their jaws broken.
      All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was Standard Operating Procedure with American investigators.

      Also with the British, I would add.

      Comment by eah — September 26, 2016 @ 11:07 pm

      • And people cry about water boarding. We bought a VC back one time. He really didn’t amount to much of anything. A guy from the Phoenix Program,MACV and a South Vietnamese translator interrogated him. They went a bit Conan the Barbarian on this poor slob,but not as bad as we did with the Germans . They disposed of him after that. I didn’t ask what that meant. It makes it easier to lie to myself about shit.

        If I heard about this shit with the German POWs before I went to Nam,I would’ve probably said,”good. They’re the enemy”. After a year in Nam,my view on treatment of POWs like that,is 180.

        The “other side” lost. There’s no need for shit like that. If the prosecutors at Nuremberg were so damn good,they should’ve been able to build an air tight case,if the nazis did everything,they said they did.

        I don’t give a f–k if they killed the entire world population of Jews . If they did it,the evidence would be there. Put a case on them and take them to trial. That shit don’t fly. The interrogators trying to play the hand of God.

        I’d expect that shit out of the Red Bastards Moscow sent to Nuremberg. We don’t roll like that in America . We’re supposed to be fair with the accused. It’s a military court. It wasn’t in America ,so it’s okay to pull that shit?

        Hey I love my country. I’m proud of our military,and I was proud I served. I’m not proud of the people our military retains,and turns a blind eye,when they abuse the accused . Shit even Patton didn’t want to beat the German army into submission. He wanted to put them to work rebuilding their country. He tried to help them get some self esteem back,and he wanted their ass dead in the heat of battle.

        Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 1:34 am

      • No photograph show damage to Hoess’s face… No description of using brass knuckles ether.

        Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:44 am

    • You’ve not Thomas Harding’s book clearly. No surprise there.

      You forgot Hoess mentioning in his memoirs the whip and the alcohol forced on him by the British.

      You don’t know about Karl Abrahams and Ken Jones admitting Hoess was kept awake for three days, nor do you know that R J van Pelt admitted in his report for the Irving libel trial that Hoess had been forcefully kept awake.

      You don’t know about Victor Cross’ letter about the threats made to Hoess’ wife about her sons.

      You don’t know about Leon Goldensohn mentioning the frost bite Hoess had suffered due to his treatment in British custody.

      Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — September 27, 2016 @ 2:05 pm

      • Nice to see you commenting here again.

        Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 2:09 pm

      • Hoess mentions that he was beat by the English to gain evidence. Hoess wrote such though I didn’t read anything post that.

        He was whipped and was provided liquor later but I would include this under beating.

        Rupert Butler said he saw Hoess beat. Though I do not remember him describing anything like brass knuckles.

        I don’t believe that I read Abrahams book though.

        The book I read what Legions of Death and commandant of Auschwits.

        Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 3:33 pm

        • “Rupert Butler said he saw Hoess beat.”

          ffs, Rupert Butler wrote about Sergeant Bernard Clarke’s version of Hoess’ capture. Are you telling porkies when you say you’ve read Legions of Death? And how come you don’t know of the threats to Frau Hoess mentioned in Cross’ letter if you’ve read Commandant of Auschwitz?

          I have Butler’s and Baxter’s book of course, but you need Harding’s to for the most detailed view of the mastermind of Hoess’ capture: Hanns Alexander; a man who—according to Harding—was involved in the murder of Gauleiter Gustav Simon and lied to his superiors in his written reports about how the man had died.
          https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=35485#p35485

          Abrahams never wrote a book; he wrote about the depriving Hoess of sleep immediately after they had done it.
          https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=75327#p75327

          Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — September 27, 2016 @ 4:13 pm

          • “Are you telling porkies when you say you’ve read Legions of Death?”

            Yes pages 236 through 238 talk about hoess’s torture.

            “And how come you don’t know of the threats to Frau Hoess mentioned in Cross’ letter if you’ve read Commandant of Auschwitz?”

            Its been a while since I have read it, I do remember Frau Hoss refusing to sleep in the same bed as her husband.

            I do not remember any portion of the family mentioning threats other than Hoess’s daughter.

            I will go for a bit now. I haven’t heard of these people but it seems worth reading.

            Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:20 pm

          • From BROI link, more brilliant insights about Jews from my favorite racist and yours, Fritz Berg:

            “BTW, revisionists must simplify their case if they ever expect the masses to revolt against the racist filth that the Jews, above all others, are still spreading.”

            Oh, can’t forget his jabs at his own denier colleagues:

            “More encyclopedias from Mattogno and Rudolf and others bring holocaust revisionism nowhere. They put people to sleep–they are an antidote to “sleep deprivation.” Germar Rudolf should learn how to write. The revisionist case must NOT be so complicated. Keep it simple, as Faurisson used to say, and rightly so–but get the message right to begin with. Faurisson and Leuchter have gotten it wrong, unfortunately, and wasted everyone’s time with their sheer nonsense and arrogance. They did not even read their own references.”

            Does Berg like anyone or anything?

            https://rodoh.info/forum/viewtopic.php?p=75327

            Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 4:38 pm

            • Someone wrote: “Germar Rudolf should learn how to write.”

              The problem is that Germar does not realize that everyone is not as smart as he is. He needs to work on explaining the gas chambers in more simple terms. The so-called gas chambers of the Holocaust were not really gas chambers. He should explain that more clearly.

              Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 4:49 pm

      • *The books I read where Legions of Death and commandant of Auschwits.

        Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:07 pm

  6. Don’t most courts refer to that as a conspiracy. Well the piece of shit admits it,in front of God,and everybody as his witness.

    So when are the nazis gonna sue the piss out of these Jew pigs,that think they’re above the law?

    Comment by Tim — September 26, 2016 @ 7:02 pm

    • Sort of. It mostly depends on the context. I haven’t read much past FG’s writing, but based on what she wrote it could be ruled a conspiracy.

      Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 9:09 pm

  7. This attempted poisoning is outrageous, even for Jews and they’ve done some despicable things. Pushing Jews into chambers? Believing the spinmeisters.

    Comment by Diane King — September 26, 2016 @ 2:24 pm

    • “Message from Heydrich to all State Police Main Offices and Field Offices – November 10 1938

      Regards: Measures against Jews tonight.

      ….

      a) Only such measures may be taken which do not jeopardize German life or property (for instance, burning of synagogues only if there is no danger of fires for the neighbourhoods).

      b) Business establishments and homes of Jews may be destroyed but not looted. The police have been instructed to supervise the execution of these directives and to arrest looters.

      c) In Business streets special care is to be taken that non-Jewish establishments will be safeguarded at all cost against damage.

      ….

      As soon as the events of this night permit the use of the desi’gnated officers, as many Jews, particularly wealthy ones, as the local jails will hold, are to be arrested in all districts. Initially only healthy male Jews, not too old, are to be arrested. After the arrests have been carried out the appropriate concentration camp is to be contacted immediately with a view to a quick transfer of the Jews to the camps. Special care is to be taken that Jews arrested on the basis of this directive will not be mistreated…”

      Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 5:58 pm

      • Where’s Jeff K? He usually posts more than FG here.

        https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/09/25/treblinka-memorial-site-is-in-todays-news/#comment-70876

        Comment by The Black Rabbit of Inlé — September 26, 2016 @ 8:30 pm

        • He will most likely be back. I believe he took the day off to read a bit about the doctors plot.

          (Speaking of which I am currently reading the book “Stalins last crime”. It contains a few sources and a document on Stalins plan to deport Russia’s Jews to Siberia. It’s quite an interesting read.)

          Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 9:07 pm

          • Denying-Reality wrote: “He will most likely be back. I believe he took the day off to read a bit about the doctors plot.”

            Is it too much asked the Hasbara trolls on this blog to try at least to make as if they have no weekly meetings for planning & briefing purposes?

            DB, is that you?

            Comment by hermie — September 27, 2016 @ 6:40 am

            • Hermie that has to be the funniest thing I have ever heard. Jeff is active in multiple places. Sad to think you believe he only posts here.

              I talk with him often on Skeptic.

              Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 7:11 am

              • I know that. He even spread Furtherglory’s private emails on that forum some time ago. But Jeff K emphatically denies on this blog that he’s the Jeff 1970 of Skeptic. Thanks for ruining his so ingenious cover (which never deceived me; don’t worry).😉

                Comment by hermie — September 27, 2016 @ 7:55 am

                • He posted it. It was removed and the problem was solved in a short period of time. I see no reason to hold it against him.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 8:00 am

                • No reason ? How about invading privacy,not to mention trust factor just went to shit. He ain’t much of a man,if he pulled that shit. That sounds like shit a scorned school girl would pull.

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 8:30 am

                • I doubt it was intentional.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 8:33 am

                • Exposing someone’s privacy is not intentional? Come on. Shit like that is planned out. It’s not a mistake . What next ? That’s how he is. He’s a practical joker. Here in my neck of the woods,he’d be on someone’s shit list for pulling a stunt like that on a lady. He’d live to regret it. I don’t think,”wasn’t intentional”,would wash in a court of law either.

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 2:43 pm

                • He was trying to post an email from her and he probably copied her email by accident. It was removed within a short period of time.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:10 pm

                • Did he clear it with her? If not. I almost expect Erkel to pop up and say,”did I do that ?”

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 6:03 pm

                • Jeff is well aware of the mistake…

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 6:06 pm

                • “Did he clear it with her? If not. I almost expect Erkel to pop up and say,”did I do that ?”

                  There was no e-mail address attached, Tim. It was a public comment.

                  Tim, I’ve had Jim’s e-mail address for months. I’ve never given it to anyone.
                  I had Joe Rizoli (Jim’s brother) e-mail me very sensitive documents once. I immediately contacted him, told him I received them in error and immediately deleted them.
                  Hermie is full of shit on this issue.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 6:14 pm

                • He has honestly admitted to posting here on skeptic so meany times that you were bound to find out. I also am doubtful to him denying it though.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 8:13 am

                • Yes, he posted it. Like a vile spy unworthy of any trust. That’s what I will remember about him.

                  Comment by hermie — September 27, 2016 @ 8:18 am

                • How did he get FGs private email? Maybe he’s taken tips from that douchebag Clinton . He’s a douchebag himself if he did that. That shits just wrong. People like that,need to be “educated”.

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 8:27 am

        • Rabbit would you happen to know a good png/jpg to PDF converter? Been trying to convert over a chapter for Jeff K from Eisenhower and the german POWs and I haven’t had much luck with online programs.

          Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 10:25 pm

        • “Where’s Jeff K? He usually posts more than FG here.”

          Aaaaawwwww, did you miss me?

          D-H is right, I did some research yesterday on the “Doctor’s Trial” in the USSR, it never occurred. It looks like Stalin was gearing towards another purge before he died, more properly this should be called the “Doctor’s Plot” (which is how it is known to history).
          Stalin did arrest and torture certain Jewish doctors, including his personal physician, but they were released after Stalin shuffled off the mortal coil.

          It’s all nonsense, simply Stalin’s last gasp paranoia before he croaked. There were show trials in other parts in Eastern Europe where prominent Jewish Communists were put on trial but this was Stalin’s anti-Semitism going into overdrive trying to purge “Cosmopolitan Jews” (more of a temper tantrum over the state of Isreal turning to the West instead of the USSR).

          Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 2:39 pm

          • Well he did ether plan to build or did build 4 new camps out in Kazakhstan and Siberia for Jews alone. Though no order was created to deport the Jews.

            Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 5:12 pm

            • I don’t doubt it was coming, Stalin’s death saved many innocents.
              One of the problems Stalin had towards the end of his life was the lack of blind compliance like he had in the 1930’s. Snyder mentions the general reluctance to gearing up for another mass purge, those around him learned that no one was safe when mass purges happened. There was also general acknowledgement that Stalin’s health was not good so there was less urgency to blindly obey.

              Comment by Jeff K. — September 27, 2016 @ 5:19 pm

              • Don’t forget. He damn near gave away the whole circus,by bumping off a lot of his military leaders.

                Can’t expect too much out of a person who said,”death is the solution to all mans problems. No man,no problem”.

                Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 5:41 pm

          • Papa Joe was more than a few fries short of a happy meal. His death is no great loss. How come no one brings up this shit? Tantrum or not,he was still killing Jews. Where do I find material on this stunt of Stalin’s ?

            Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 5:36 pm

  8. I find it interesting that these Jews thought nothing of the illegality of what they were doing….But I guess the law applies to everyone else.
    They bitch and moan about their so called bad treatment in the camps ( oh yes they had to work) but it’s OK for them to poison people, even when the war was over. Despicable people we’re dealing with here.
    Scroll down to poisons.
    https://www.opcw.org/chemical-weapons-convention/related-international-agreements/chemical-warfare-and-chemical-weapons/hague-convention-of-1907/

    JR

    Comment by Jim Rizoli — September 26, 2016 @ 11:37 am

    • Its not like the Germans also had the right to push them into chambers at Auschwitz ether Jim.

      Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 1:01 pm

      • You wrote: “Its not like the Germans also had the right to push them into chambers at Auschwitz ether Jim.”

        The chamber at Auschwitz, the main camp, was a morgue where bodies were kept before they could be burned in the ovens next door. No one was pushed into this morgue room, which could not have been used as a gas chamber because it was not air tight.

        Comment by furtherglory — September 26, 2016 @ 4:25 pm

        • The Gas chamber in auschwitz was originally a Morgue which was converted over to a gas chamber by bashing holes in the roof then later it was converted to a Air Raid Shelter.

          As Hoess put the conversion.

          “The killing of the above-mentioned Russian POWs using Cyclon B was continued, but no longer in Block II because it took at least two days to air out the building. We therefore used the morgue of the crematory as the gassing facility. The doors were made airtight and we knocked some holes in the ceiling through which we could throw in the gas crystals. But I remember only one transport of nine hundred Russian POWs who were gassed there. It took several days to burn their bodies.”

          The Doors were made air tight… They might not have been at first but they can always be altered.

          Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 5:32 pm

          • Ah I see. If Hoess allegedly wrote it in his so-called memoirs, that must be true. No physical or documentary evidence needed…

            What’s next? I saw a bigfoot and nobody believes me?

            Comment by hermie — September 26, 2016 @ 6:07 pm

            • Hermie, perhaps you should recognize that Hoess is an important witness. And the vast amount of testimony for Krema 1 only proves it was true.

              If you want to check for yourself if it was written then read the memoir yourself. Its called Commandant of Auschwitz and is $13.38.

              Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 6:21 pm

              • I recognize that Hoess was an important witness but I have no respect for testimonial ‘evidence’ in general (hence my reference to a bigfoot).

                As far as his ‘memoirs’ is concerned, I find it odd that a book written by a German guy in Poland was published for the very first time in English.

                From the oldest to the newest editions:

                1. Commandant of Auschwitz; autobiography by Rudolf Hoess: English, 1951 ([Place of publication not identified] : [publisher not identified])

                2. Wspomnienia Rudolfa Hoessa, Komendanta Obozu Oświec̨imskiego By Rudolf Franz Ferdinand Hoess [Wstep̨ napisał Jan Sehn. Przekład z jez̨yka niemieckiego Jana Sehna i Eugenii Kocwy]: Polish, 1956 (Publication: Warszawa : Wydawnictwo prawnicze)

                5. Kommandant in Auschwitz, autobiographische Aufzeichnungen By Rudolf Höß: German, 1958 (Publication: Stuttgart Dt. Verl.-Anst)

                http://www.worldcat.org/title/kommandant-in-auschwitz-autobiographische-aufzeichnungen/oclc/2766879/editions?start_edition=1&sd=asc&referer=di&se=yr&qt=sort_yr_asc&editionsView=true&fq=

                I bet the real author of ‘Kommandant in Auschwitz’ was rather to be found somewhere in New York city than in any Polish gaols.

                No surprise Holohoaxers hide this oddity and claim the book was published for the first time in German (sometimes they say that it was in Polish).

                Wikipedia states: “Höss wrote his autobiography while awaiting execution; it was published in 1956 as Kommandant in Auschwitz; autobiographische Aufzeichnungen and later as Death Dealer: the Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at Auschwitz (among other editions).” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_H%C3%B6ss#Capture.2C_trial.2C_and_execution)

                Denying Reality wrote: “And the vast amount of testimony for Krema 1 only proves it was true.”

                Hahahaha. And what does the vast amount of testimonies for alien abductions, ghosts, and the Loch Ness monster, prove, according to you? Except that testimonies are mere series of words devoid of any intrinsic probative value, of course…

                Comment by hermie — September 27, 2016 @ 6:28 am

                • Then you are a waste of time. Witness evidence is used in every modern day court, which shows you are not worth arguing with especially when the convergence of testimonies exists.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 7:09 am

                • Denying-Reality wrote: “Witness evidence is used in every modern day court”

                  … and assessed through proper counter-interrogations. So far from the Nuremberg parody of justice and similar Holo mock trials, isn’t it?

                  Denying-Reality wrote: “especially when the convergence of testimonies exists.”

                  Are you referring to the Holo-fraud or to the anal probe of alien abductees?😉

                  There was such a great convergence of testimonies about the Holohoax that some German camp guards even ‘confessed’ the existence and use of homicidal gas chambers at Buchenwald. Waw ! Amazing convergent BS !! Stop treating us like gullible kids who believe in Santa Claus ! Offensive for us and embarrassing for you…

                  Comment by hermie — September 27, 2016 @ 8:09 am

          • I don’t think we can we can give much credence to any of the statements uttered by Rudolf Hoess to his captors. The man was brutally beaten-up; plied with alcohol; deprived of sleep; and had sharp, narrow instruments poked into his lower face. And God-knows what kinds of verbal threats, intimidation and inducements were shouted at point-blank range to get him to agree to the most outrageous nonsense imaginable.

            Having stood inside Krema 1 myself, I couldn’t believe that the Auschwitz Memorial Museum was seriously trying to bamboozle their visitors by claiming such a shoddily-designed facility could ever have functioned as a homicidal gas chamber. There is no door – let alone a door-frame – between the chamber and the furnace room. So I thought to myself, well some of the victims might not want to be gassed, and decide to toddle out calmly past the sondercommandos who were busily eating cake while feeding bodies into the furnaces, and saying to them ” Sorry guys, but we are dissidents who politely decline to take part in the final solution, but you carry on as you think best, and with any luck the SS will allow you to leave Auschwitz alive on a “Death March”.

            Comment by Talbot — September 26, 2016 @ 6:49 pm

            • They are not Statements Tal…. Its what he wrote after he was convicted to death. He had nothing to gain from writing it.

              Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 6:50 pm

            • “Here is where I learned the power of the prison caretakers. They had absolute rule. They confirmed to me again, clearly enough, my contention about the tremendous and often disastrous power which prisoner trusties can exert over their fellow prisoners. Here is where I also came to fully understand the three categories of guards. If the prosecutor’s office had not intervened, they would have finished me off, most of all mentally and emotionally. They almost had me at the breaking point. This was not feeble hysteria. I was almost totally finished at that time, and I can stand quite a bit. Life had often enough been hard for me, but the psychological torture of these three satans was too much. I was not the only one who was mistreated like this. They also badly mistreated a few of the Polish prisoners. They have long since left this position and it is gratifyingly quiet. I have to openly confess I never would have expected to be treated so decently and so kindly in a Polish prison as I have been since the intervention of the prosecutor’s office.”

              -Rudolf Hoess

              Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 6:55 pm

            • Hoess Final Letters to His Wife and Children

              “It is tragic that, although I was by nature gentle, good-natured, and very helpful, I became the greatest destroyer of human beings who carried out every order to exterminate people no matter what. The goal of the many years of rigid SS training was to make each SS soldier a tool without its own will who would carry out blindly all of Himmler’s plans. That is the reason why I also became a blind, obedient robot who carried out every order.”

              Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 6:59 pm

              • Even if Hoess did write these statements and letters after he had been sentenced to death, the man was still under duress, because he didn’t know what additional suffering his Polish captors might dish out to him if he didn’t co’operate. I suspect by that stage, he had accepted his fate, and was thinking more about the welfare of his wife and children and not jeopardising their future.

                In the circumstance, I personally reject any statements issued by Rudolf Hoess while in custody, and leave others to make up their own minds whether or not they accept his words as genuine testimony.

                Comment by Talbot — September 26, 2016 @ 7:19 pm

                • You’re argument is that he was not in the best mental state? This argument makes hardly any sense against the writing as the writing by Hoess his heavily corroborated with other perpetrators. Whom were not tortured. Your point is easily dismissed.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 7:24 pm

                • I would also ask to a medical record of Hoess under his polish “captors” (even though they didn’t capture him and he was captured by the English. I guess this shows how historically informed you are.). I see no reason to see how the torture inflicted on him would cause him to write his memoir the way that he did.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 7:27 pm

                • ” I see no reason to see how the torture inflicted on him would cause him to write his memoir the way that he did ”

                  But the truth of the matter is – that neither you, nor I, know the conditions that Hoess was held in while in Polish custody. And neither do we know his psychological state of mind. Nor do we do know for certain that he wrote these statements and letters of his own free will. In fact, they read and smell like something concocted by his jailors, and he was obliged ( even forced ) to copy them out in his own handwriting. But we just don’t know for sure – we are totally in the hands of the Polish authorities, who were the bitter enemies of the Germans at that time, and were not just out for revenge, but were busily constructing this phony genocide myth against both Jews and Poles.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 26, 2016 @ 7:48 pm

                • The truth of the matter is you obviously know less then I did when I started off looking at the holocaust. I would recommend that if you want some strong arguments then try and take off from black rabbit it Mattogno. Your skepticism is poor and the reasoning behind it is vague at best.

                  Provide a document about Hoess’s mental health under the polish authorities or just stop with your damn speculation.

                  Do you even know what torture methods were used against him Tal? Do you?

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 26, 2016 @ 9:22 pm

                • Unfortunately, if the Polish authorities are in possession of a report detailing the mental health of Rudolf Hoess while in their custody, then they haven’t released it to the public. So what can anyone do about that situation. In the circumstance, it would seem that ALL of us in the realm of “damned speculation” in this matter – even you, with your superior knowledge and research into the “holocaust”.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 27, 2016 @ 4:50 am

                • You have proven my point that you do not know his mental state. According to Hoess’s memoir he hadn’t reached a breaking point but that he was on his way there.

                  But let’s again mention that Hoess’s memoir is in convergence with others confessions, something which you cannot avoid. The only descriptions of torture we have is that Hoess was beat and they underfed him. It’s arguably idiotic to think he had physiological problems that caused him to write his memoir.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 8:08 am

                • ” in convergence with others confessions “.

                  You might consider that as conclusive proof that a “holocaust” took place, DH – but I certainly don’t. Just because all those SS men held in custody parroted out the same basic story in their confessions, doesn’t mean they are confirming that the events actually took place. It could well be the case that the Polish investigators and interrogators were issued with a script, or schedule, prepared in advance by their superiors, instructing them to use whatever means they chose in order to wring confessions out of their captives, which matched one another, and thus dove-tailed with the requirements of the prepared script.

                  You seem to forget that these SS men were not held in custody under a normal judicial system, whereby the arresting officers, investigators, jailors, lawyers and judges had some degree of independence from one another, and the defendants rights were protected via means of defence council and legal statute. The defendants confessions were never subjected to rigorous scrutiny in open court, and no cross-examinations ever took place.

                  What was taking place in Poland was purely “victors justice” whereby the newly established Polish authorities ordered their subordinate personnel to obtain the required confessions to “mass murder”.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 27, 2016 @ 8:51 am

                • Tal I never said it was conclusive proof of the holocaust. You are creating a strawman. The holocaust is not a single event.

                  Not all these men were tortured. And example is Perry Broad, author of the Broad document.

                  Arguing further that you are dismissing a form of evidence used in every modern court.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 10:27 am

                • You wrote: “And example is Perry Broad, author of the Broad document.”

                  I wrote about Pery Broad on this page of my website: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08A.html

                  Begin quote from my website:

                  Pery Broad, an SS man who worked in the Gestapo office next door to the [Auschwitz] gas chamber, corroborates Müller’s description of six holes [on the roof]. Broad wrote a report, after he was captured by the British, in which he described how the gas pellets were poured into the Krema I gas chamber: “… the covers had been removed from the six holes in the ceiling…”

                  There were only four holes on the ceiling of the Auschwitz gas chamber, not six holes.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 11:36 am

                • There were 3 holes in total. Broad exaggerated, that happens with testimony.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 11:37 am

                • You wrote: “There were 3 holes [on the roof of the gas chamber] in total. Broad exaggerated, that happens with testimony.”

                  I have a photo of the roof of the Auschwitz gas chamber on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08A.html

                  I climbed up on the roof of the gas chamber in 1998 and took a photo of the roof, which you can see at the top of the website page, cited above.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 11:42 am

                • Thanks for sharing your photograph Further Glory but I am more interested in what the roof looked like during its period as a gas chamber.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 12:35 pm

                • You wrote: “I am more interested in what the roof looked like during its period as a gas chamber.”

                  The alleged gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp was NEVER a gas chamber. It was built as a bomb shelter for the SS men. There was an SS hospital across the street and an SS administration building behind the building. In case of a bomb threat, the SS men could easily get to this bomb shelter. You can read about the alleged gas chamber on my website at

                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08.html

                  You can read more about the holes in the ceiling of the alleged Auschwitz gas chamber on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08D.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 1:29 pm

                • As already supplied from Hoess’s memoir FG.

                  “The killing of the above-mentioned Russian POWs using Cyclon B was continued, but no longer in Block II because it took at least two days to air out the building. We therefore used the morgue of the crematory as the gassing facility. The doors were made airtight and we knocked some holes in the ceiling through which we could throw in the gas crystals. But I remember only one transport of nine hundred Russian POWs who were gassed there. It took several days to burn their bodies.”

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:13 pm

                • You wrote: “As already supplied from Hoess’s memoir”

                  As we all know, the memoir of Hoess is the gospel truth, as written by him with no help from anyone else.

                  Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 5:12 pm

                • Never said it was Gospel truth, I am just saying that its more credible then your opinion.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 5:15 pm

                • FG. I know you’ve told this fellas story before. Can you post the link please.

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 5:29 pm

                • By the way. Has Jeff mentioned anything about Wolfman yet. You said that wasn’t him on FB. I’d like to know if he’s okay.

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 5:31 pm

                • Two days to vent the place? That’s what I’ve been looking for. How long it takes to vent the gas hut. Two days? That’s gonna shoot production all to hell. Maybe that’s why the Jews keep changing the number from 6 to 4 to 1.5 mill,and last I heard it was 800,000 and some change.

                  Like I said,”the way that number keeps changing,they can trade the number of dead Jews on The Chicago Board of Trade,like they do any other commodity”.

                  Why not. You get some hedge fund managers,that deal in weather futures. I don’t know how that shit works. I’m only in it when my broker sells contracts on my feeders that go into the feedlot.

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 5:26 pm

                • “Two days to vent the place?”

                  Who said this? Rudolf claims it would take 20 hours to ventilate the chambers… Well Krema 2 & 3 would take 15 minutes to air out, though Pelt says that it would take 20 minutes.

                  I found this in Pressac’s book and it place ventilation or Crematorium 1 at between 15 to 20 minutes.

                  http://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/pressac/technique-and-operation/pressac0125.shtml

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 5:45 pm

                • Thats what was written about the gassing of Ruskie POWs. Unless I read it wrong. You said they moved everything to another building because of that

                  Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 5:57 pm

                • The First gassing’s were in Block 11… It was a cell in the lower floor that was used. It book something like 2 to 3 days to air out the entire building so they moved it to Crematorium 1 which according to that witness took 20 minutes to Air out.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 6:04 pm

                • So it was not at ground level? Now I see why it took a couiple days to vent. I didn’t know that part . Thanks

                  Comment by Tim — September 28, 2016 @ 12:46 pm

                • I went to the link that you provided regarding Pressac and his book, DH.

                  And in it, he produces a statement written in French ( but with a translation into English ), by someone who appears to have two names, and claims to have worked in one of these “sondercommandos” inside the Kremas at Auschwitz. But I’m afraid that it is nowhere near good enough evidence to be accepted as the truth. In fact, it’s totally woeful – because it is not the original statement that was made to the Polish investigators back just after the war. What Pressac has produced is some sort of “Declaration” that was submitted by this mysterious man in Paris in the year 1980 !!. Thus, his declaration is 35 years late, and has not been verified by any authority, or even been tested in a court, let alone undergone a rigorous cross-examination.

                  Quote;- “ I certify that that I was deported to Auschwitz under the name of ‘Stanislas Jankowski’. In April 1945, I made a declaration under this name before a Cracow magistrate, a member of the Central Commission for the Investigation of Hitlerite Crimes in Poland, a declaration that was published in the Auschwitz Notebooks

                  “I indicated to him that my true identity was Alter Fajnzylberg My registration number in the Auschwitz Birkenau camp, tatooed on my left arm and my chest, is 27,675.

                  “Such is my declaration.”

                  “(Declaration signed before a notary on 29th September 1980 and officially deposited in Paris on 3rd October 1980)”
                  ……..

                  So dear old Mr. “Two Names” seems to have two tattoos as well – I suppose that’s just in case he got lost in the Auschwitz-Birkenau complex, and could be found much easier by the depraved SS killers.

                  But its a new one on me – that the inmates were given tattoos on their chests. I wonder what other nonsense these holohoaxers are going to come up with next.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 28, 2016 @ 4:34 am

                • Tal, revisit the page.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 28, 2016 @ 7:19 pm

                • There is no need to re-visit the Pressac website: the quote above tells us all we need to know that this “Declaration” was nothing more than a holohoax concoction. I don’t even believe Mr “Two Names” was ever in Auschwitz, but was just a Jewish guy, whose family originated in Eastern Europe and had moved to live in France sometime over the previous 50 years-or-so.

                  I’m surprised he didn’t say in his Declaration that he had a third tattoo engraved on one of the cheeks of his arse, so that everyone could identify him in the showers. But apparently, I’m informed that naked prisoners learn very early in their incarceration not to bend over when in the communal showers. Thus, any foolhardy, short-sighted Jew stooping down to inspect the number on Mr “Two Names” rear end might have received a very unusual Auschwitz experience himself.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 29, 2016 @ 5:03 am

                • Tal again Revisit to page and you might notice something

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 29, 2016 @ 5:39 am

                • No DH – its beneath my dignity to re-read this piece of twaddle. But you are quite free to provide us with the quote that you consider to be of interest.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 29, 2016 @ 6:48 am

                • Lol again re-read the page you might realize something

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 29, 2016 @ 10:50 am

                • The quote is from the “Declaration by Mr. Alter Fajnzylberg” the person above that is a different person.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 29, 2016 @ 10:53 am

                • Talbot, still have a spot for you over at Skeptics Forum.

                  You have questions you want answered. Apparently D-H and I are not making the grade.

                  I also think it would be good for you to share your various insights and opinions, it would provide a fresh perspective.

                  Comment by Jeff K. — September 29, 2016 @ 11:10 am

                • I repeat – there is no way on this earth that I will spend a moment of my time re-reading this rubbish. But if you want to quote something of interest that you find within the document, then please go ahead.

                  Comment by Talbot — September 29, 2016 @ 10:58 am

      • to push them into chambers

        Actually, they didn’t “push” them — the gas chambers (I assume you mean gas chambers) were disguised as shower rooms, and the Jews walked in by themselves — you ought to be familiar with that part of the story — if not, go read up on it, and then come back.

        Comment by eah — September 27, 2016 @ 12:35 am

        • The Jews around the end of the line were pushed in and the door was quickly slammed behind them. Since you want to be completed literal.

          Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:56 am

          • You are commenting under the name “Denying-History”. Are you a person or a website? You seem to be completely uneducated about the Holocaust. You seem to think that the Jews formed a line and marched into a gas chamber; then the door was slammed shut behind them.

            Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 1:54 pm

            • Well he did say,”gas chambers going incognito as showers”. You said that’s what they tried to say the gas huts were

              Besides they couldn’t just close the door shut. They were too busy throwing babies on top the adults. At least the ones that didn’t get their heads slammed on the ground,when they came off the rail cars.

              Those stories are better than anything,Hollywood could write. Maybe those people that come up with those stories,could go to work for Hollywood .

              Comment by Tim — September 27, 2016 @ 2:14 pm

            • This is sort of what happened. Its a drastically simplified version but that is what happened. If you want detailed I can go into detail.

              Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 4:12 pm

              • You wrote: “If you want detailed I can go into detail.”

                Yes, please do give us the details.

                Comment by furtherglory — September 27, 2016 @ 5:17 pm

                • Alright request what you want me to cover.

                  Comment by Denying-History — September 27, 2016 @ 5:27 pm


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