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October 7, 2016

What is the real story on Jan Karski?

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 7:49 am
Jan Karski

Jan Karski

One of the readers of my blog put up a link to an old article about Jan Karski, which was written in the year 2000.

You can also read about Jan Karski on this website: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1383612/Jan-Karski-warned-Holocaust-1942-believed-him.html

Jan Karski is famous because he is the man who first TOLD THE WORLD ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST. No one knew that the Nazis were killing Jews, until Karski BROKE INTO AUSCHWITZ and told the world about this horror. I wrote about this on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/jan-karski-is-back-in-the-news/

One of my very first blog posts, back in the 2012, was about Jan Karski: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/bob-dylan-and-jan-karski-to-receive-the-presidential-medal-of-freedom/

I also wrote about how Jan Karski told the world about the Holocaust in another blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/jan-karski-the-man-who-first-told-the-world-about-the-holocaust/

 

 

 

42 Comments »

  1. Another HoloHoax dreamer…..How can anyone be swindled by this garbage is beyond me.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — October 7, 2016 @ 10:40 am

    • More on this charlatan….
      http://www.cwporter.com/karski.htm

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — October 7, 2016 @ 10:44 am

    • Behold, the bridge of logic that makes up Jims mind. It’s burning away.

      Comment by Denying-History — October 7, 2016 @ 11:09 am

      • I see that you no longer have a link, to your unfinished website, on your name Denying-History. I can’t figure you out. You came on my blog, commenting as a 13-year-old Jewish person living in his mother’s basement. Now you are an expert on the Holocaust.

        Comment by furtherglory — October 7, 2016 @ 11:52 am

        • “commenting as a 13-year-old Jewish person living in his mother’s basement”

          Oh really? When did I ever say I was 13 years old? When did I say I was Jewish? When did I say I lived in my mothers basement? And when did I say I was an expert on this subject?

          Comment by Denying-History — October 7, 2016 @ 12:11 pm

          • You wrote: “When did I ever say I was 13 years old? When did I say I was Jewish? When did I say I lived in my mothers basement?”

            You did not SAY, nor write these things. That was how I READ what you wrote. I did not think that you knew anything at all about the Holocaust when you first began commenting. I almost banned you from commenting, but I waited awhile.

            Comment by furtherglory — October 7, 2016 @ 12:29 pm

            • I know a bit. I admit I don’t know everything. The only area I honestly believe I excel at when it comes to the subject is being able to formulate my own opinion unlike Jim.

              Comment by Denying-History — October 7, 2016 @ 1:05 pm

              • You say Jimbo.”don’t” have his own opinion? Hes got videos up at YouTube . He don’t agree with everyone’s opinion,so his opinions are not his own ?

                Jimbo is his own man. If people don’t like his opinion,he could care less. I’m guessing this has to work both ways. So can we say the folks who are pro holo,are given their opinions?

                I listen to both sides here. I’m I the middle. The complexities of this topic,make it to where it’s gonna take me awhile to figure it out.

                Comment by Tim — October 7, 2016 @ 1:15 pm

                • Hard to say Tim, as this would mean people should be allowed to just copy and paste an opinion form a book.

                  He is his own man… Its just he obviously creates pre-made posts at his own website.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 7, 2016 @ 1:18 pm

            • I am not one to ban people from commenting but what really bothers me is the Holohuxsters have their own sites where the post until the cows come home. When people come on their sites that say contrary they kick people off can expose them in their lies then they come over to sites like this and spill their garbage here. They want to take over all the sites on the internet so nobody out there learns the truth. These people are not happy unless they run the world and the information that comes out of it. I don’t mind having a good debate but these people don’t debate…. everything that we revisionist present they day are lies, so how do you debate them you can’t. You don’t win when you deal with Holohucksters. They exist only to waste people’s time and to keep people from hearing the truth.
              That’s why I don’t spend much time with them my time is too valuable typing away or speaking with my phone here to deal with them.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — October 7, 2016 @ 1:49 pm

              • You wrote: “I am not one to ban people from commenting but what really bothers me is the Holohuxsters have their own sites where the post until the cows come home. When people come on their sites that say contrary they kick people off can expose them in their lies then they come over to sites like this and spill their garbage here.”

                Everyone is welcome to comment here — unless they insult me personally. I welcome all comments and all points of view.

                Comment by furtherglory — October 7, 2016 @ 3:33 pm

                • I think you do a great job with this site your information is great… it’s a shame we get people here they try to disrupt it.
                  These people might not insult you but they insult the revisionist on the site.
                  Typical Jew psychological warfare.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 7, 2016 @ 3:41 pm

                • You wrote: “…they insult the revisionist on the site.”
                  Some of the people who comment on my blog are against the revisionist side of the story, but I don’t consider that “insulting.”

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 7, 2016 @ 3:52 pm

                • Once again I assert that you welcome both sides. You’ve got your mind made up,but you still welcome both sides.

                  Like I said before,try to leave an opinion in favor of the holo on a site run by the White Knights or the ABs. It’ll never see the light of day.

                  Comment by Tim — October 8, 2016 @ 8:00 am

                • You wrote: “you still welcome both sides.”

                  The whole purpose of my blog is to discuss both sides.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 8, 2016 @ 8:30 am

                • I know. Some people that come on here,don’t seem to comprehend that. That’s why I tell them,”go to a Klan or AB site,they don’t wanna hear both sides.” In addition to that I can add ,the Klan and ABs,are real racist. They’d just say shit like the old joke,”what was hitlers biggest mistake? He missed a few Jews “. I didn’t make the joke up,I just passed it along. I used it to illustrate a point that the Klan and ABs want Jews dead,because they’re Jews .

                  Don’t forget the AB at the Phoenix FCI that kept bashing Earl krugels noodle until he was dead. That AB didn’t hate Earl because he tried to blow up a mosque. That AB hated Earl cause he was a Jew . That AB will never see light of day again,but I can guarantee you,that’s fine by him.

                  Guess my whole point is this. People think this is a racist site,because you and some other people here,don’t agree with history. We live in such a politically correct society,that if you disagree with the holo,you’re a racist. That’s BS. I think God should wipe us all out. Give shit back to the dinosaurs. There’d be no complexities at all.

                  Comment by Tim — October 8, 2016 @ 2:20 pm

        • 13 year old Jew,living in moms basement. Wouldn’t most law enforcement agencies refer to that as ,”child abuse”?

          I remember at 13,I wouldn’t have given something like the holo,a second thought.

          Comment by Tim — October 7, 2016 @ 1:07 pm

        • “I see that you no longer have a link, to your unfinished website”

          I took it down to start over again. I didn’t like the design I chose, and instead of hitting the start over button I hit delete. I really only plan to use it as an archive for references. I will have it reconnected with my account eventually.

          Comment by Denying-History — October 7, 2016 @ 1:07 pm

    • Jim, a lot of what you posted is cut off on the right margin.

      Comment by Jeff K. — October 7, 2016 @ 1:29 pm

      • You wrote: “Jim, a lot of what you posted is cut off on the right margin.”
        If you use a computer, instead of a hand-held device, nothing will be cut off.

        Comment by furtherglory — October 7, 2016 @ 3:36 pm

        • Just figured that out, sorry.

          Comment by Jeff K. — October 7, 2016 @ 6:26 pm

    • Actually, Jim, the problem was I was viewing this on my phone. Sorry, nothing wrong with the margins.

      Comment by Jeff K. — October 7, 2016 @ 6:25 pm

      • Actually I didn’t know what you were talking about when you were talking about those margins

        Comment by jrizoli — October 7, 2016 @ 6:46 pm

        • Where did everything start with the holo (I’m not talking about the 2 sides doing battle)? Some of what I read seems plausible. Some of what I read seems to be farce.

          Comment by Tim — October 8, 2016 @ 8:20 am

      • Thank you Jeff . I thought it was something exclusive to my phone. Same thing is happening with me.

        Comment by Tim — October 8, 2016 @ 7:11 am

        • My son has a Samsung Android phone that will show the entire screen when reading one of my blog posts.

          Comment by furtherglory — October 8, 2016 @ 7:23 am

          • Samsung is creeping up on apple real quick. I’m not overly impressed with apple or their service

            Comment by Tim — October 8, 2016 @ 8:16 am

            • You wrote: “I’m not overly impressed with apple or their service”

              A person who bought Apple stock in the beginning is now filthy rich.

              Comment by furtherglory — October 8, 2016 @ 8:32 am

              • I know the people who bought the stock are rolling. The product ain’t too impressive . I’ve had mine less than 6 months. You tap the email icon,the screen comes up white . No I didn’t damage it. It’s under full warranty . You know what apple tells me. Got 2 options. Send them the phone,they pay for the part,I pay for the labor. Option 2. I buy a new phone and send them this one back . WTF is that? I have to pay for a new phone when this one is under full warranty,I ain’t sending them dick. Those assholes dropped the ball.

                I was looking at the Samsungs in the ATT store. I knew I should’ve got it. I didn’t because I was thinking about Samsung electronics from the 70’s I bought a Samsung 8 track bookshelf player,that included 2 speakers. It was junk. Clearly they’ve come along way since then.

                I’m convinced a Jew set forth the warranty policy on Apple phones . This phone should be treated as a recall . Don’t charge me to fix it. I don’t care. I just shouldn’t have to pay for their f–k up.

                That’s what happens when you get the shit produced in a foreign country

                Comment by Tim — October 8, 2016 @ 9:59 am

  2. Comment by Denying-History — October 7, 2016 @ 10:07 am

    • Well, that was an excellent piece of fun for us all to enjoy on a Friday afternoon. There was the legendary Jan Karski himself sitting on a throne in an 18th century classical-style chamber, telling the world all his delightful fairy stories.

      Note, there is no attempt to provide us with any corroboration for what he says. He is simply allowed to sit there authoritatively and just tell it like it was ( yeah right! ).

      I listened closely to what he had to say about his journey to Izbica, but none of it can be verified because the details are so vague and no names are mentioned. He claims that both he – and somebody who “looked Jewish!” arrived by train in Lublin and then they walked several kilometres to “some shop”, which sold mechanical equipment, and there, they were given Ukrainian uniforms and boots to wear. ( Unfortunately, in Sir Martin Gilbert’s book – entitled ‘Holocaust Journey’ – the uniform Karski wore was described as an Estonian one – not Ukrainian. In addition, Gilbert, quotes Karski as saying that his companion was Estonian as well.)

      But there is no further account of how Karski and his chum actually reached Izbica – which is 66 kilometres south-east of Lublin. Maybe they legged it – or perhaps they purchased pogo-sticks from the “mechanical equipment shop” and hopped all the way there. And neither is there any explanation as to how they obtained any identity documents or authorisation permits to allow them to enter the ghetto. But still….its all true, so that’s all we need to know.

      Comment by Talbot — October 7, 2016 @ 11:02 am

      • We now have witnessed Tal and his excellent points not understanding that some revisionist actually use this man as an argument. Thanks for confirming he’s full of shit, now we know he was never transited from Belzec😄

        Comment by Denying-History — October 7, 2016 @ 11:05 am

      • What’s really funny about all the Holohucksters who tell their crazy tales …..nothing has to be proven. They just say whatever they want, everyone agrees that this seems reasonable and it’s written down as accepted. If the Holohucksters reading this could realize that they are being fooled rather badly buy these hoaxes and Liars but for some reason they enjoy being fooled and lied to go figure.
        And mentioning anything from the skeptic forums the only form in the world that looks at everything questions everything… except the HoloHoax.
        The Skeptics people are a joke to themselves. Sometimes I think they say the stupidest things just to see what they can get away with.

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — October 7, 2016 @ 12:06 pm

    • So one of the main founders of the myth of Nazi death camps, never saw a death camp? So patently mere damage control because his testimony doesn’t fit today’s orthodox narrative at all. But very funny nevertheless…

      Comment by hermie — October 7, 2016 @ 8:43 pm

  3. In one of the above articles, you wrote;- ” Karski escaped from the Germans and, posing as a Jew, wearing a yellow Star of David, he sneaked into the Warsaw Ghetto so that he could observe the horrible conditions there. He learned that the Jews were being sent from the Warsaw Ghetto to Treblinka, a death camp that was 60 miles to the East. ”

    What a great shame that the Nazis didn’t bundle Karski into a cattle-car while he was acting undercover inside the ghetto. Barry – the Treblinka camp commandant’s dog – would have enjoyed taking great chunks of flesh from out of the buttocks of this notorious character; and then maybe the world itself would have been spared from having to listen to all his made-up lies.

    Comment by Talbot — October 7, 2016 @ 8:41 am

  4. As long as we’re talking about famous people of the holo. I got an email newsletter from the holo museum yesterday. Ben Ferencz. They said he was born in the Carpathians in Transylvania. Family moved here when he was 10. He went to Harvard Law. Joined the army,and they put him in charge of the newly formed,”war crimes division”.

    This was the first,”anything”,this kid was put in charge of prosecuting. That don’t make sense. A newly formed legal division,and you put some cherry in charge of it.

    They said he put together the prosecution of the people running the gas vans.

    They said the gas vans were responsible for the deaths of a million ( I like that. “Exactly” one million. Not one million plus 10 or 20,exactly one million) Jews I thought the gas vans “were not” that effective. Sounds to me like,they were doing one bang up job to me.

    At any rate,the Jew museum is slobbering all over this fool.

    Comment by Tim — October 7, 2016 @ 8:13 am

    • I wrote about Ben Freencz on a couple of blog posts: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/benjamin-b-ferencz/

      Comment by furtherglory — October 7, 2016 @ 8:24 am

      • I read the page I was redirected to. You only mentioned Bennie in the photo at the bottom.

        You ain’t gonna die eating the innards of a dead human. It seemed to work out okay for the Dahmer party and that soccer team,who’s plane went down in the mountains.

        I saw something on tv one time. It was about some tribe in Africa or the West Indies. They still practice cannibalism. The only side effects some suffer,is dementia. Nobody ends up dead. I’m sorry,but Jews eating their dead comrades,seems like it belongs in a Rob Zombie movie. What next. Nazis struck a deal with aliens,so the aliens can take the Jews, and give them anal probes.

        That doesn’t surprise me,that the Americans wanted to boost German artwork. Remember what happened when we occupied Japan ? We told all the Japanese citizens to turn in their family samurai swords. What? We were afraid they were gonna start WW 3 with swords. These were family heirlooms the Nips were turning in. All we did was destroy the swords. There goes a shitload of Niponese history there.

        We have little respect for people’s culture and the items connected to them.

        There was one sword a family owned,that once belonged to Date Masamune. He was a warlord back in the early 1600’s. His sword never turned up. The family said they turned it over to the U S Army. They said they’ve no record of it ( no surprise there).

        I read where the price Date’s sword would bring at auction,between 700,000 to 800,000. However bottom line,we weren’t gonna be happy until the Nips lost all sight of their heritage. That’s why I find totally believable,that we’d boost all of the art work,that says where the German people and Germany came from

        Comment by Tim — October 7, 2016 @ 10:40 am

        • You mentioned the [Jeffrey] Dahmer party. I think that you mean the Donner party. It was the folks in the Donner party who ate the dead bodies of the people in their party.

          Comment by furtherglory — October 7, 2016 @ 11:13 am

          • oops. I had the wrong name. I should’ve said ,”The Donner Party”. Well they did have something in commen with Jeffery Dahmer. I know when they got back to the real world,people couldn’t accept that they did what they had to do to survive.

            I don’t think the soccer team that went down in the Andes back in ’72,had it as bad as the Donner Party. They still had a few people shy away after they told their story.

            Bottom line,you do what ya gotta do to survive. I still question the Jews that said they had to eat their dead fellow Jews . Germans are cultured. Do you really they’re gonna let Canabilism take place in their own backyard. Why didn’t those Jews break out of those prisons? I don’t know how many times I’ve heard about Jews having an uprising and having a prison break

            Comment by Tim — October 7, 2016 @ 1:03 pm


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