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October 24, 2016

David Irving now claims that Jews were gassed in the little red house and the little white house

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 5:41 am
My 2005 photo of the ruins of the little white house

My 2005 photo of the ruins of the little white house at Auschwitz-Birkenau

Before the construction of four large gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau was completed in 1943, the gassing of the Jews allegedly took place in two old farmhouses, described as “the little white house” and “the little red house.”

The little red house was located north of where the fourth gas chamber, called Krema V, was built at Auschwitz-Birkenau. This house was completely destroyed by the Nazis and nothing remains of it today.

The little red house is now claimed to have been the site of the first gassing of the Jews at Birkenau, beginning in March 1942. The little white house was allegedly put into operation as a gas chamber in June 1942.

One of the readers of my blog has alerted me to the news story that David Irving is now confirming that Jews were gassed in the little red house and the little white house. You can read about this at https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=6999

In the past, I have written at length about the location of the little red house and the little white house, which David Irving confirmed several years ago.

You can read about the little white house on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/Birkenau03.html

You can read about the location of the little red house on my blog at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-location-of-the-little-red-house-the-first-gas-chamber-at-auschwitz-birkenau/

On the blog post, cited above, you can see a video of David Irving at the site of the little red house. Irving is doing his best to save his reputation so that he can sell his books.

66 Comments »

  1. The two Jews who extracted a confession out Rudolf Hoess probably by torture are named in an article here: https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t898983/

    Comment by who dares wings — October 26, 2016 @ 6:56 pm

  2. Denying-History wrote:

    “FG Hoess said 3 to 15… I have heard it takes 15 minutes, but never an exact time due to temperature.”

    I just looked at Hoess’ memoirs in which he states:

    Those who were standing next to the air shaft were killed immediately. I can state that about one-third died immediately. The remainder staggered about and began to scream and struggle for air. The screaming, however, soon changed to gasping and in a few moments everyone lay still. After twenty minutes at the most no movement could be detected. The time required for the gas to take effect varied according to weather conditions and depended on whether it was damp or dry, cold or warm. It also depended on the quality of the gas, which was never exactly the same, and on the composition of the transports, which might contain a high proportion of healthy Jews, or the old and sick, or children.

    Hoss, Rudolf. Death Dealer: The Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at Auschwitz (Kindle Locations 494-499). Prometheus Books. Kindle Edition.

    Comment by blake121666 — October 24, 2016 @ 4:36 pm

    • Later on:

      The door was opened a half an hour after the gas was thrown in and the ventilation system was turned on.

      Hoss, Rudolf. Death Dealer: The Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at Auschwitz (Kindle Locations 500-501). Prometheus Books. Kindle Edition.

      So 1/2 hour tops according to Hoess.

      Comment by blake121666 — October 24, 2016 @ 4:39 pm

      • Ventilation according to THHP took around 15 minutes, though Van Pelt says it would take 20 minutes.

        Ether way we are looking at 3 to 15 minute gassing period according to his testimonial and ventilation took 15 to 20 minutes.That is if what hoess has said is correct.

        Broad testified that 2 cans of 1kg were used per 2000 people, or one kg can per 1000 people. (pelt report)

        So going off Hoess figures were looking at a gassing period between 18 to 35 minutes. That is if what he says is correct.

        This fits the account from his memoir.

        Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 6:20 pm

        • No. I don’t have it handy; but Hoess claimed 6-8 kg was a standard dosage for an alleged gassing in the big kremas. Pressac uses this figure – I’m sure of it. I’d like to be able to refind it but Hoess also claimed that he doubled the dose on a gassing that wasn’t working somewhere – apparently it was too damp or something or other. It’s in a testimony that BRoI pointed me to a couple years ago regarding another matter. It was some obscure testimony that I wasn’t aware of until then.

          The next line in the Hoess memoir is:

          The door was opened a half an hour after the gas was thrown in and the ventilation system was turned on. Work was immediately started to remove the corpses.

          Hoss, Rudolf. Death Dealer: The Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at Auschwitz (Kindle Locations 500-501). Prometheus Books. Kindle Edition.

          This is problematical if the SK were not wearing gas masks. There are other problems with many of Hoess claims, IMO.

          Comment by blake121666 — October 24, 2016 @ 7:51 pm

          • Broad said that they used two 1kg cans for 2000 people. Not sure about this 6-8kg claim, as this is reaching Delousing levels. Mind citing the page?

            Though Pelt has said the following.

            “Pery Broad testified that the SS used two 1 kg tins to kill 2,000 people., or 1 kg per 1000 people—a ratio of 1kg per 1,000 people that was also used by Gerstein when he assumed that 8,500 kg of Zyklon B sufficed to kill eight million people. This implies that the 1,660 kg Zyklon-B could have killed 1.6 million people. Testifying in Hamburg, Dr. Bendel stated that 1 kg tin was good for the murder of 500 people, which would mean that 1,660 kg Zyklon B would have allowed for the murder of 800,000 people.”
            (Van-Pelt, Simon Wiesenthal lecture)

            Here we see 3 witnesses saying a smaller amount then Hoess. If you have any witnesses whom fit in with Hoess statement then please to provide them.

            As I have stated though, the memoir says gassing took a short period of time. He testified it took 3 to 15 minutes. Hoess says ventilation took half and hour, something I haven’t disputed. I have only stated that Pelt provides a smaller figure in his report.

            “We know the specifications of the ventilation system that made the room operable as a site for mass extermination: seven horsepower is required to extract the Zyklon-B from the gas chamber in 20 minutes.”
            (Page 29 VHO edition)

            Comment by Denying-History — October 25, 2016 @ 5:13 am

            • This is not a good place to argue these points.

              Here is a link to one claim of Pressac saying “between 5 and 7 kg” for the big krema

              http://www.historiography-project.com/books/pressac-auschwitz/16.php

              You are making many claims that are debatable, to say the least, throughout here. I’m not debating these on this board here and suggest you go to RODOH to debate me on these things. But just scanning your posts here, I have these objections off the top of my head:

              1. The claim that an empirical test is unnecessary is an anti-scientific at its base. The BASE of ANY scientific claim is empirical tests. Exactly what would be required for these alleged Auschwitz gassings is not easily calculable for any of the Revisionist objections.
              2. Diesel exhaust would not have been used in any way you are claiming. Your mention of Holtz and Elliot just shows that YOU don’t understand what that is. That paper has a diesel engine under load from a dynamometer. A diesel will not run rich (required to get a CO-rich exhaust) unless it is under an extreme load. Diesels have a fuel governor that ensures this. One could essentially ENGINEER a diesel to run like a gasoline ICE, but that is just plain ridiculous. It is not a simple tweak and requires very extensive modification. What you’d end up with is a diesel that runs very similar to a gasoline engine. Why in the hell wouldn’t you just start with a gasoline engine? If your claim is that they put this alleged diesel engine under extreme load during any alleged gassing, that is ridiculous as well.

              Comment by blake121666 — October 27, 2016 @ 12:14 am

              • Ah, so your numbers were high by 1, so its 6-7. This again seems to high. Cause they would use 8-10 grams per cubic meter for Delousing clothing. As I have said though, Broad has a bit more going for him based on what Pelt has said.

                I am actually willing to discuss this at Rodoh.

                1) It is to an extent, and testing it would call for a good amount of variables.

                2) I haven’t claimed diesel was used really… I only said that Holtz and Elliot were at least able to reach consentrations which could be considered a slow death period. They were able to reach Oxygen levels under 6 percent… This itself is deadly as well they reached over 10% CO2 which is as well deadly. This is without adjusting the engine. I haven’t argued they were able to reach CO levels without adjusting the engine… Which according to Burg would break the engine, though based on his technological advanced Germans argument it would be stupid to assume they couldn’t find someone to adjust the engine. This aside the engines used were most definitely petrol.

                “Why in the hell wouldn’t you just start with a gasoline engine?”

                Let’s see here, Jim ever since he went to skeptic was using the same Diesel issue. He has had it repeated to him multiple times.

                I also did start with saying gasoline. Twice.

                “They used Petrol gas… SO I don’t know what you expect from diesel exhaust…”

                I am also trying to find where I said:

                “One could essentially ENGINEER a diesel to run like a gasoline ICE, but that is just plain ridiculous.”

                Considering my argument was that their unaltered engine was able to reach limits under 6% Oxygen and above 10%. carbon dioxide. Yes CO2 is harmless in small quantities but when concentrated it becomes deadly. If I remember correctly Hunt points out in his Majdanek film that CO2 is used for gassing animals.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 27, 2016 @ 5:13 am

                • You wrote: “As I have said though, [Pery] Broad has a bit more going for him based on what [Robert Jan van] Pelt has said.”

                  Pery Broad was an SS man who worked in the Gestapo office next door to the gas chamber in the main Auschwitz camp. Broad wrote a report, after he was captured by the British, in which he described how the gas pellets were poured into the Krema I gas chamber: “… the covers had been removed from the six holes in the ceiling…”

                  Today, the reconstructed gas chamber in the main camp (Krema I) has four holes. In other words, the testimony of Pery Broad is worthless.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 27, 2016 @ 6:15 am

                • He said it had 6 holes… But this doesn’t make his testimony worthless, it fits well with Hoess.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 27, 2016 @ 6:22 am

        • I just re-read what you wrote. The dosage wouldn’t be based on number of people of course. It would be based on room size. The amount taken in by the actual people would be pretty small. I’m going to have to look at this Broad testimony. I think you’ve probably mistaken something.

          There were of course smaller doses alleged for smaller rooms. Isn’t it claimed that partitions or something were even used in the big krema? I’ve read that somewhere.

          Comment by blake121666 — October 24, 2016 @ 9:03 pm

          • 1) the point was just based on what Broad has said, and working off van pelts calculation. I am not arguing dosage exactly but I am arguing what Broad testified to, which is 1kg can per 1000 people. Or 2 cans for 2000 people.

            2) based on broads testimony and the only claimed chambers to hold 2000 being Krema 2 & 3 it seems rather obvious where we are talking about.

            I believe is was Rudolf (Chemist) said that Krema 1 sometimes required more then what was normally used.

            Comment by Denying-History — October 25, 2016 @ 5:29 am

    • Look at Hoess’s testimony of April 15, 1946.

      Dr. Kauffmann: And then, you told me the other day, that death by gassing set in within a period of 3 to 15 minutes. Is that correct?

      Hoess: Yes.

      Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 6:13 pm

  3. FG…. This is nothing new… Enough exists guard confession wise to this. Irving still believes Kream 2 and 3 were morgues/crematoriums and I believe he views 4 & 5 the same way. Alan Heath said that he has admitted to gassing’s in most buildings at auschwitz, but based on his latest video it seems he only thinks the bunkers were used. Irving stands that 300,000 died at auschwitz which is the *recorded* number killed according to Leon Poliakov, who wrote:

    ” to which one must add the deaths of some 300,000 registered prisoners – Jews for the most part, but not entirely – for whom the gas chamber was only one of any number of ways by which they might have perished.” (Poliakov, 202)

    Buszko in the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust stated that 405,000 registered prisoners, 65,000 survived, which still gives us a number similar to Irvings figure.

    Mind that Irvings figures aren’t correct and that the number is probably closer to the current 1.1 million number. I think Pressacs figures in his first published book (based on the essay he wrote) is a good show of this.

    Krema I …………. 10,000
    Bunkers 1 & 2 ……. 107,000
    Krema II ………… 400,000
    Krema III ……….. 350,000
    Krema IV & V …….. 70,000+
    Total …… 937,000+

    (Pressac, pp.132,162,183,390.)

    Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:14 pm

    • DH…..again show how the dirty deed was done….you and your HoloHuxster buddies are all talk not action.
      Then you have the nerve to throw out these ridiculous high numbers to make people think something actually happened.
      You would think they would do a test gassing to prove all of us Revisionist wrong but guess what ……it can’t be done the way they say it happened. Back to the drawing board.. I promise you this….if you want to shut us up…throw a couple of pigs in the room or the equivalent of test equipment in a 2000 sq ft room, drop the ZB tablets, or diesel gas fumes in and get some readings.
      Why hasn’t this been done? It’s obvious it can’t be done, or if it was done nothing would happen.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 12:29 pm

      • Not sure what I have to explain Jim. Mind expanding or did you just respond to talk shit in your unorthodox fashion.

        “ridiculous high numbers” huh? Please explain why.

        “You would think they would do a test gassing to prove all of us Revisionist wrong but guess what”

        1)No…. because you would honestly have to be the biggest fucking idiot to lock 2000 people in a room and toss two can is. Its immoral as fuck.

        2) If you are going to say they should simulate it without people, who exactly would this control work?

        3)No one denies the gas is slow release… but when enacted on by heat it releases faster. Of 1 Kg can of the gas only 1.72% of the gas would have to release in under 10 minutes to reach the limits of 300PPm. Two cans were used according to Broad.

        http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/cyanide/cyanide.001

        “it can’t be done the way they say it happened.”

        No one is that dumb Jim… Even Blake from Rodoh say it could happen, but that the requirements would be that the gas would be fast release.

        “Back to the drawing board.. I promise you this….if you want to shut us up…throw a couple of pigs in the room or the equivalent of test equipment in a 2000 sq ft room, drop the ZB tablets, or diesel gas fumes in and get some readings.”

        They used Petrol gas… SO I don’t know what you expect from diesel exhaust…

        As for Pigs, seems like a waste of resources. It as well seems like a worthless test when one can just take data can create a model from that.

        “Why hasn’t this been done?”

        Waste of time…

        “It’s obvious it can’t be done, or if it was done nothing would happen.”

        457 m^3 = 4.57 X 10^5 liters * (1 kg air/ 776 liters) = 589 kilos of air.

        (0.300 grams HCN/ kg air)*(589 kg air) = 176.7 grams HCN.

        176.7 grams HCN/10 minutes = 17.67 grams/minute

        (17.67 grams HCN/minute)/(1000 g HCN) X 100 = 1.76%

        “Only 1.76% of the HCN will have to evaporate per minute.”

        http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/auschwitz/cyanide/cyanide.001

        Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:45 pm

        • Do it or shut up… By the way where were the heaters? They are not mentioned. Where did they plug in, where were the fans? It couldn’t happen the way they say it happened. I’m sure the story will change again to accommodate the heaters…..

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 12:50 pm

          • How about no, it’s a waste of resources.

            As for the heaters? Krema 2 if the heating system worked ran off the ovens heat. 4 & 5 use ovens. If you honesty believe they had to plug in things then your stuck in the 21st century. Again proving you try to discount witness testimony.

            You argue it couldn’t happen but you don’t explain why. No reasoning exist here, only negation.

            Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:55 pm

        • 300 ppm would be about 332 mg/m^3. You multiply by a little under 1.12 for the conversion. It’s close enough though. I don’t think 300 ppm would ensure quick death to anyone. I don’t even think 10 times that much would (although the current 1-minute death dosage is said to be 2000 ppm – used to be 3500 ppm until this year). 300 ppm inhaled is said to kill a person in about 10 to 60 minutes. You should figure on the high end, 60 minutes.

          The most pertinent parameters of this scenario you describe I consider to be the dosage (how much you start with), evaporation rate (how quickly the HCN evaporates off the substrate – dependent on temperature), and dispersion rate (how quickly the gas reaches everywhere in the room – it of course diffuses as it disperses). There are a bunch of secondary considerations as well (such as humidity and such).

          That’s a very old link you have there about dosage. 6 kg and more is now said to have been the dosage used in the big kremas. It’s not a good idea to talk in percentages like you are doing here because, as I noted above, the HCN would diffuse as it disperses of course. But just keeping it simple as you’ve done here, 2000 ppm would be about 1 kg in a 457 m^3 room – or 1/6 of the alleged dosage.

          As I said, though, that’s a very simple way of speaking. What we have is a pile (or 4 actually) of pellets with HCN evaporating off of them and dispersing throughout the room (diffusing as it disperses). It’s highly debatable what the initial dosage needs to be (I’m not too sure myself what it’d take).

          Comment by blake121666 — October 24, 2016 @ 3:56 pm

          • I should add that this way that we’ve both calculated this here is the correct way that these sorts of calculations are done. One doesn’t calculate dosage on free-space but the ENTIRE space. IOW, I’ve seen someone on Skeptics Forum (which I think you post on) mention the space taken up by the persons in the room would require a lesser dosage. This is actually untrue. Sorption and other concerns has fumigators calculate the whole room space. You can read any book on this to verify. It sounds very unintuitive; but it’s true.

            Comment by blake121666 — October 24, 2016 @ 4:06 pm

          • Good info Blake….bottom line too many issues to deal with using ZB here but the HoloHuxsters just throw out figures and expect us to believe them. Two thousand people were said gassed in a 2000 sq ft room…..they died standing up…..Really now? So how did the ZB gas or diesel gas get dispersed evenly without fans or heat? Especially without fans….I’m sure their body heat would of warmed things up a bit.
            Of course DH thinks the Kremas heat was what did the trick….must of been 100 degrees in there. Check out Gersteins nonsense and all those that quoted him later…..absolute nonsense….along with the 120 ft high pile of clothes and 75 ft pile of shoes.
            More nonsense. Even Raul Hilberg said Gerstein was a little whacked out in some of his statements.
            But Hilberg didn’t let that stop him from using a lot of his ridiculous quotes in his book The Destruction Of The European Jews.
            It’s amazing that the HoloHuxsters get away with all the stupidity they are let to get away with.
            Thats why they can say whatever they want and no one except the Revisionist take them up on it.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 4:30 pm

            • Jim you are an idiot… I already explained the engines were petrol

              Comment by Denying-History — October 25, 2016 @ 8:41 am

              • Of course the engines were petrol….LOL…..the diesel lies didn’t make sense and couldn’t produce enough CO so they changed the gas type to something they think would make better sense, but still not true. It’s hard to cover up lies but they seem to do it with more lies.
                DH no offense, but you’re looking pretty stupid here to believe that BS. I definitely see a crack in your thinking ability. Being so young with damaged brain cells is a sad thing to deal with. Too many computer games and talking on your cell phone.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — October 25, 2016 @ 9:50 am

                • You wrote: “DH no offense, but you’re looking pretty stupid here to believe that BS. I definitely see a crack in your thinking ability. Being so young with damaged brain cells is a sad thing to deal with.”

                  A young friend of mine, who is in college, has suggested that I put trigger warnings on my blog posts, so as to alert young readers that what I am writing might upset them. I think that this is a good idea, since college students are now being taught a completely different version of the Holocaust than what I learned in the Dark Ages.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 25, 2016 @ 9:59 am

                • FG, please do not feed into the regressive wishes… Do not put trigger warnings on your blog.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 25, 2016 @ 10:46 am

                • Lol Jim, diesel exhaust is able to kill. The exhaust for engine B from Holtz and Elliot’s study were able to reach above 10% Carbon dioxide and below the breathable limit oxygen wise.

                  As well you again rely on witnesses who didn’t operate the engines, so it’s not as burg claims. Turn to see HC’s post on the ‘diesel issue’.

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/06/why-diesel-issue-is-irrelevant.html?m=1

                  “DH no offense, but you’re looking pretty stupid here to believe that BS.”

                  Jim, in your imagination land maybe. But as rabbit says nothing will convince an ideolog such as yourself.

                  “I definitely see a crack in your thinking ability. Being so young with damaged brain cells is a sad thing to deal with. Too many computer games and talking on your cell phone.”

                  Jim, age can also work against you… And your inexperience isn’t hard to prove. You didn’t even know about the T4 program until someone brought it up on this blog, yet you claim that you read the leuchter report… Leuchters 2nd report contains one of the chambers used for the program.

                  You attempt to refute things yet you have ignored the easy to understand points, such as teeth being prone to breaking apart and turned to ash from temperatures around 1,100 degrees fahrenheit. A camp fire burns about 400 degrees hotter and this isn’t even including the additional period of heat from the petrol gas that was poured on the wood.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 25, 2016 @ 10:45 am

          • Your 60 minute figure is a bit extreme, I would recommend reading Dudley et al.

            Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 4:38 pm

          • A quick note would be from “Synthetic Nitrogen Products: A Practical Guide to the Products and Processes” by Gary Maxwell.

            “Exposure to 20 pp, of HCN in air causes sight warning symptoms after several hours; 50 pp, causes distrubances within an hour; 100 ppm is dangerous for exposures of 30 to 60 minutes; and 300 ppm can be rapidly fatal unless prompt, effective first aid is administered.” (Gary, p 348)

            The Merck index warns, “Exposure to 150 ppm for 1/2 to 1 hr may endanger life. Death may result from a few min exposure to 300 ppm”
            (Merck 1983, p. 696)

            http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/declassdocs/navy/19960917/082696_doc1_036.html

            Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 6:53 pm

            • Yes, but one has to consider the MOST tolerant persons in this alleged gassing scenario – not the LEAST.

              For instance, the lowest oral lethal dose that killed someone was only 0.54 mg/kg body weight but people have survived oral ingestion of 10s of mg/kg body weight. Some people’s (particularly smoker’s) metabolism is able to metabolise cyanide to thiocyanate very quickly and to a high degree. After a certain amount though, even they will be essentially drowned and succumb like anyone else.

              Comment by blake121666 — October 24, 2016 @ 8:09 pm

              • I’m not really going for the lowest claimed dose. I’m going off broad considering it fits with others testimonies.

                Hans stark talks about the pouring of Zyklon though the room of two holes, then the holes being closed. Morgue 1 (based on HC’s view) had three holes, but they say that Stark could have mistaken the number of holes in use. This again fits broads model of two cans of 1kg, though we don’t have a size record from Stark.

                So I’m not really arguing that 0.54kg was used.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 25, 2016 @ 5:23 am

  4. If David Irving is now convinced Jews were gassed at Auschwitz and mass murdered in Poland in the Aktion Reinhardt camps why doesen’t he lay his case for this out in a book, or a the least in an essay? Irving came to the defense of his friend Rolf Hochhuth who was either knowingly, or unknowingly involved in a Soviet psy ops to smear pope Pious the XII. https://zenit.org/articles/the-soviet-smear-that-lingers-today/ Granted, this is a blog about concentration camps but I don’t think the regular readers of it have much of a sense of how disinformation about these camps was manufactured in the past and continues to be manufactured now.

    David Irving’s professional trajectory took a turn for the worse with his testimony at the 1985 False News trial of Ernst Zundel who was jailed for eight years and remains silent on the issues Irving now comments on in You Tube videos, but never really addresses in writing. He’s written over 30 books, none of which are about the Holocaust, which makes me wonder why he’s given the last word it by the media and by some revisionists.

    If Irving was any threat to the Holocaust Industry he would have been silenced like Zundel and before him William Dudley Pelly who emerged from a seven year prison sentence for tax fraud and never wrote another word about the Jewish power he had publicized in a vain effort to prevent America’s entry into WWII.

    Comment by who dares wings — October 24, 2016 @ 11:47 am

    • Not really worried about Irving, as there were no gasings in any of the camps.
      If David Irving so strongly believes that people were gassed in those small chicken coups let him show us how it was done.
      I will deal with Irving as I do with all the HoloHuxsters. Show me the murder weapon and how it was used to accomplish the dirty deed.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 12:19 pm

  5. David Irving was hanged years ago. But he was one of these hanging cases where his neck was NOT broken in the fall.

    So he’s thrashing around at the end of the rope, apparently TALKING, even.

    It’s gruesome beyond description.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — October 24, 2016 @ 7:44 am

  6. White house red house, does it really matter?
    No jews were gassed, and the lie continues.
    If Irving thinks he’s getting on the Jews good list forget it. They never forget and if you don’t believe in the holy 6 mill you are gone in their minds.
    Lowering numbers don’t ingratiate you to them.
    I tried to get an interview with him so no dice.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 5:53 am

    • You wrote: “White house red house, does it really matter?
      No jews were gassed, and the lie continues.”

      AFAIK, no one has ever claimed that the little red house and the little white house were used to disinfect the clothing of the prisoners. I believe that these little houses were used for that purpose. Both of these houses were near the end of the camp, where it would have been safe to use Zyklon-B, which is a deadly poison, to kill lice. Look at the background in the photo of the location of the little white house. It is way out in the middle of nowhere where no one would be accidentally killed by the poison gas fumes.

      Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 6:08 am

      • AT LEAST 6 million of the killed lice were Jewish. That’s how I always figured it. Easy …

        Comment by Jett Rucker — October 24, 2016 @ 7:46 am

        • You wrote: “AT LEAST 6 million of the killed lice were Jewish”.

          That is what is called “grasping at straws”.

          http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/grasping+at+straws

          Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 8:11 am

        • I came across this site below which has some interesting figures and explanations.
          The trouble I have with all the HoloHuxasters out there is their getting the story straight…..Too many contradictory stories.
          So please present to me the whole truth and nothing but the truth….but as you can see the straight dope can vary from person to person.
          Thats why it’s hard for us to pin them down because their information is always changing, so much that it will keep your head spinning.
          But we do know a few truthful things….there were NO homicidal gas chambers in ANY of the camps, plenty of fumigation chambers though where billions of lice were killed…So you will see some interesting statements made here.
          http://www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/Witnesses/MainWitnEng.html

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 8:12 am

          • You wrote: “there were NO homicidal gas chambers in ANY of the camps,”

            I wrote about the alleged gas chambers that are still in existence on this blog post:
            https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/08/30/how-many-of-the-nazi-gas-chambers-are-still-in-existence/

            Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 8:30 am

          • More contradictions exist in the denier community… As well, would you be able to explain these contradictions?

            Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:34 pm

            • I’m looking for the truth….so far the HoloHuxsters are the liars and falsifiers here.
              The Revisionist don’t have all the answers but they don’t kill people or put people in prison for not agreeing with them.
              That to me shows the true mindset here. What Laws have the Revisionist signed onto to come after the HoloHuxsters?

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 12:46 pm

              • No your not Jim. Otherwise you wouldn’t use selective sources. Cause you only read ‘revisionist’ works.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:50 pm

                • You only read HoloHuxster crap because you can’t debunk the Revisionist on your own.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 12:51 pm

                • “You only read HoloHuxster crap because you can’t debunk the Revisionist on your own.”

                  Lol you cannot debunk anything. Hell you argue I only use things which assess the holocaust, yet I have used more revisionist resources then you have.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:58 pm

              • Laws don’t control the past Jim. I’m not explaining this to you again.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:50 pm

                • laws cover up the past sins of the past.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 12:52 pm

                • Laws don’t effect the past.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 12:58 pm

                • Lets sum up the main HoloHuxster who lied in his book…Raul Hilberg…..

                  From JRGEN GRAF BOOK • THE GIANT WITH FEET OF CLAY

                  During the Second World War the Jews in the countries of Europe controlled by Germany suffered massive persecutions and paid a high price in blood. In a labor over forty years, Raul Hilberg has assembled an immense number of documents on these events. Based on these documents, he could have written a work entitled The Persecution of the European Jews (Die Verfolgung der europischen Juden) that would have stood the test of time and earned him a name as a historian of the first rank. Raul Hilberg has spoiled his chance. He wanted to document not only the persecution of the European Jews, but also, and mainly, the destruction of same, by which he meant mainly the industrialized mass murder in chem- ical slaughterhouses. He had an agenda. There is no tangible physical evidence of any such industrialized mass murder, and in the mountains of documents that have been saved from the war years there is not the least indication to it. In order to prove this mass murder, Hilberg has had to invert the long-standing hierarchy of evidence and make witness testimony take precedence over physical and docu- mentary evidence. Instead of the latter, we have the testimony of a Rudolf H, who confessed to having visited in June 1941 the camp Treblinka, which opened in July 1942, of a Kurt Gerstein, who maintains that in Belzec one could squeeze 32 persons into a square meter, of a Filip Mller, who tells us that when corpses were incinerated the fat ran down in channels from which one could scoop it out with dippers. In 1982, Hilberg responded to the Revisionists who had reproached him with faulty methodology with the following argument: The critics cannot explain one very simple fact: What became of the people who were deported? The deportations were not kept secret. They were announced. Many millions of people were shipped to very specific places. Where are these people? They are certainly not hiding in China!

                  Indeed, where are these people? Hilberg is right that they are not hiding in China. Where they ended up is illustrated by an article on 24th November 1978 in the State Times (Baton Rouge, Louisiana, p. 8a):
                  The Steinbergs once flourished in a small Jewish village in Poland. That was before Hitlers death camps. Now more than 200 far-flung survivors and descendants are gathered here to share a special four-day celebra- tion that began, appropriately, on Thanksgiving day. Relatives came Thursday from Canada, France, England, Argentina, Columbia, Israel and at least 13 cities across the United States. Its fabulous, said Iris Krasnow of Chicago. There are five generations herefrom 3 months old to 85. People are crying and having a wonderful time. Its almost like a World War II refugee reunion.
                  These are concrete examples of Hilbergs gassing victims! In a society which has chosen the lie as its leitmotif, Raul Hilberg is honored for his work. Yet his fame is built on sand, and he is a giant with feet of clay whose fall is only a question of time. A fair judgment of Hilbergs work was unwillingly made by himself. In a letter to Dr. Robert H. Countess, the responsible publisher of this book, Prof. Raul Hilberg wrote on June 21, 1988:

                  Superficiality is the major disease in the field of Holocaust studies.
                  When asked whether he once stated that there is no quality control in holocaust studies, he confirmed this in 2000
                  That is correct, especially at several U.S. elite universities.
                  And the University of Vermont, Hilbergs Alma Mater, is defintely one of them. Let us conclude with a passage from Robert Faurisson
                  R. Hilbergs huge work is reminiscent of the erudite undertakings of bygone eras, when Christian, Jewish and Byzantine scholars competed with each other in the production of all kinds of literary or historical forgeries. Their knowledge excited admiration, but what they lacked was conscience. There is a striking similarity between R. Hilberg with his remarkable cabbalistic mentalityto borrow a phrase from A.R. Butz and those Jews of Alexandria, who, Bernard Lazare tells us, expended an extraordinary amount of labor to forge the very texts which they used to support themselves in their fight for their cause.
                  End

                  Case closed….for the HoloHuxsters

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 1:01 pm

                • Jim, explain this to me.

                  What in the hell does this have to do with my questions? Explain it on your own and stop taking excerpts from your books.

                  Explain why Zyklon couldn’t have released at the rate described.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 1:04 pm

                • You wrote: “Explain why Zyklon couldn’t have released at the rate described.”

                  According to Holocaust believers, it took 20 minutes for the Jews to die, after they were exposed to Zyklon-B gas.
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/how-long-did-it-take-for-prisoners-to-die-in-a-nazi-gas-chamber/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 2:09 pm

                • FG Hoess said 3 to 15… I have heard it takes 15 minutes, but never an exact time due to temperature.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 2:23 pm

                • You wrote: “[Rudolf] Hoess said 3 to 15… I have heard it takes 15 minutes, but never an exact time due to temperature.”

                  On this blog post, I wrote about how the confession of Hoess was obtained:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/09/15/why-did-rudolf-hoess-confess-the-british-took-it-out-of-him-with-torture-says-his-80-year-old-daughter/

                  You said “3 to 15” minutes [for the gas to take effect].

                  Do you mean that Hoess first said it took 3 minutes to gas the prisoners, but after a little more torture, he said that it took 15 minutes for the gas to take effect?

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 2:34 pm

                • One confession was by torture another was not. Hoess said the same for both.

                  3 to 15 minutes for the people to die. This does not include ventilation.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 2:40 pm

                • You wrote: “One confession was by torture another was not. Hoess said the same for both.”

                  On my website, I wrote about the confessions made by Hoess:
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/RudolfHoess.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 2:53 pm

                • Alright… Still doesn’t change his conformation.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 3:06 pm

                • You wrote: “Still doesn’t change his conformation.”

                  I looked up the word conformation, and I still don’t know what you mean.
                  https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/conformation

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 3:11 pm

                • Alright let me explain this as simple as it can go.

                  1) Hoess admitted to the crimes to the Americans and wasn’t tortured.

                  2) The Brits tortured him and he said the same things from his Americans interview.

                  3) he admitted to the same crime on the stand at Nuremberg.

                  4) Hoess after being convicted and sentenced to death was being held by the poles. The polish allowed Hoess to write his memoir in which he corrected the death toll and retracted nothing.

                  The is the confirmation which exists with his testimony.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 3:22 pm

                • Show me how it worked.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 24, 2016 @ 3:53 pm

                • You wrote: “Laws don’t control the past”

                  In the history of the world, sometimes laws DID control the past. I wrote about this on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/how-long-did-it-take-for-prisoners-to-die-in-a-nazi-gas-chamber/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 24, 2016 @ 2:19 pm

                • “In the history of the world, sometimes laws DID control the past.”

                  This isn’t exactly the reference FG. Memory laws do not mean an event didn’t happen.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 24, 2016 @ 2:24 pm


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