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November 26, 2016

The Jew who was sent to a labor camp called Theresienstadt

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , — furtherglory @ 11:56 am

Was Theresienstadt really a labor camp?

According to this news article, it was.

Strictly’s Judge Rinder opens up about his Jewish grandfather’s horrifying experience during the Holocaust

The prison camp at Theresienstadt

The caption of this photo says “Moishe [a Jewish prisoner] was sent to a series of labour camps, including Theresienstadt in what was then Czechoslovakia”

Excuse me! I don’t think that Theresienstadt was classified as a “labor camp.” The photo above appears to have been taken in “the small camp” which was a prison at Theresienstadt.

I have a similar photo on my website, which you can see below:

The prison camp at Theresienstadt

My photo of the prison camp at Theresienstadt

My photo above seems to show the same prison camp that is shown in the photo in the news article.

I have written at length about Theresienstadt on my web site. I have a whole section devoted to Theresienstadt, which you can read at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/TheresienstadtGhetto/History/index.html

Start by reading my web page about the history of Theresienstadt at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/CzechRepublic/Theresienstadt/TheresienstadtGhetto/History/GhettoHistory.html

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  1. The following article appeared in the Denmark English-speaking news – dated 5 November 2016;-

    ” A 91-year-old Danish man who allegedly worked as a guard in a Belarus concentration camp during World War II will not face any charges, a Danish prosecutor said on Friday.

    A top Nazi hunter from the US-based Simon Wiesenthal Centre, Efraim Zuroff, travelled to Denmark in July last year to file a police complaint against Helmuth Leif Rasmussen, over war crimes alleged to have taken place between 1942 and 1943.

    Information has not emerged during the investigation to support the complaint we received from the Simon Wiesenthal Centre,” chief prosecutor Steen Bechmann Jacobsen told AFP.

    A Danish book released in 2014 claimed Rasmussen worked as a guard in the Bobruisk camp in Nazi-occupied Belarus, citing a police report from 1945.

    “We have worked closely with two historians, one of whom is the author of the book,” Jacobsen said, adding that the book itself did not prove that Rasmussen had “committed concrete crimes or that he was complicit in any.”

    Rasmussen, who has since changed his name and now lives in the Copenhagen area, has admitted to being part of a volunteer unit created by the Danish Nazi Party, but has claimed that he only went to Bobruisk as a 17-year-old to undergo military training.

    Around 6,000 Danish Nazis volunteered for the Free Corps Denmark during the German occupation between April 1940 and May 1945. Up to 1,000 Danes served in Bobruisk, where at least 1,400 Jews were killed, according to the book released in 2014 by Danish historians Dennis Larsen and Therkel Straede. ”
    …………….

    After “The Auschwitz Bookeepers Trial” of Oskar Groening two years ago, the crazed Nazi Hunter – Efraim Zuroff announced to the world’s media that he was on the hunt for at least another ten elderly Nazis – one of which was a Danish citizen.

    Well, it turns out that this wicked Danish Nazi turns out to be someone who was merely a young lad at the time, who just happened to be a cadet sent by his officers for military training in Belarus. So – is this the level that “Nazi Hunting” has descended to ? There are no senior SS leaders, camp commandants, or any personnel involved in the deportation, or killing of Jews left alive, so they go after people who were – at most – only indirectly connected to the alleged crimes.

    But, of course, Mr Zuroff and his associates from the Simon Wiesenthal Center are more than happy with this situation, because it gives them a spurious righteousness and something to do with their empty lives; but more importantly, it keeps the holocaust scam – which would otherwise be on life-support – well and truly alive and flourishing.

    They don’t care if any Danish citizens are innocent or guilty, or even if they are charged and brought to trial. What is important to them is the fanfare of publicity that keeps the holocaust in the forefront of the world’s attention.

    And it is interesting that there is no organisation of “Bolshevik Hunters” in existence, who fly across the world in the full glare of media headlines searching for elderly Jews who carried out unspeakably barbaric crimes in the service of the Soviet Union back during those years.

    Isn’t it time that someone stood up and told me Mr Zuroff to cease persecuting elderly folk, and clear off back to New York City where he belongs?

    Comment by Talbot — November 28, 2016 @ 9:17 am

  2. Not related to topic but has some interesting facts…
    http://imageling.com/holosc/#videos

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — November 27, 2016 @ 10:57 am

  3. Once again,the shits second hand. What’s to say this person didn’t embellish the story. Wouldn’t be the first time someone pulled that stunt. Why didn’t his pa pa speak up about it. All the other survivors do.

    Comment by Tim — November 26, 2016 @ 3:45 pm

    • So what was his grandpas horrible experience if it was a labor camp?
      Oh, I know….he had to work!

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — November 26, 2016 @ 4:17 pm

  4. There was no “gas” chamber there as the article states.Typical Jew propaganda….
    I’m surprised I didn’t see Joseph Mengele’s (doctor death) name mentioned as it seems most Jews meet him in their travels.

    Interesting end note of some of the people there…
    “According to Holocaust survivor Ben Helfgott, who was one of the prisoners brought to Theresienstadt in the last days of the war, the inmates of the Theresienstadt ghetto went on a rampage as soon as they were released. They looted homes, beat to death an SS guard from the ghetto, and attacked the ethnic Germans who were now homeless refugees, fleeing to Germany, after being driven out of the Czech provinces of Bohemia and Moravia.”

    Nice to see they didn’t learn anything positive from their interment there.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — November 26, 2016 @ 1:22 pm

    • You wrote: “According to Ben Helfgott, who was one of the prisoners brought to Theresienstadt….”

      I wrote the following about Ben Helfgott on one of my blog posts:

      Begin quote
      According to Holocaust survivor Ben Helfgott, who was one of the prisoners brought to Theresienstadt in the last days of the war, the inmates of the Theresienstadt ghetto went on a rampage as soon as they were released. They looted homes, beat to death an SS guard from the ghetto, and attacked the ethnic Germans who were now homeless refugees, fleeing to Germany, after being driven out of the Czech provinces of Bohemia and Moravia.
      End quote

      Comment by furtherglory — November 26, 2016 @ 1:52 pm

    • “I’m surprised I didn’t see Joseph Mengele’s (doctor death) name mentioned as it seems most Jews meet him in their travels.”

      You do know that Mengele only experimented on Jews at Birkenau, right?

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 27, 2016 @ 6:30 pm

      • Nice try Jeff…. the Jews even in other camps said they met Mengele I’m not the one spreading the LIE they are.
        You might want to try to straighten them up on this.

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — November 27, 2016 @ 7:22 pm

        • “Nice try Jeff…. the Jews even in other camps said they met Mengele I’m not the one spreading the LIE they are.
          You might want to try to straighten them up on this.”

          What other Jews?

          Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 27, 2016 @ 7:27 pm

          • You wrote: “What other Jews?” [who were in other camps, where Dr. Mengele did not work]

            I have written about this, but I can’t find the page on my website, nor the comment on my blog where I wrote it. There are many Holocaust survivors who claim to have met Dr. Mengele.

            Comment by furtherglory — November 28, 2016 @ 8:08 am

      • Mengele most lied about man other than Hitler…
        http://jewwatch.com/jew-holocaust-lies-hoax-frauds-blackflagops-auschwitz.html

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — November 27, 2016 @ 7:34 pm

      • OT (but it was mentioned here)

        You do know that Mengele only experimented on Jews at Birkenau, right?

        There is not a single piece of documentary or forensic evidence that Mengele experimented on Jews or anyone else — not even the smallest scrap of real evidence.

        Here is a link to the section on experiments in the German language Wikipedia page on Mengele: Medizinische Experimente und Untersuchungen — it is full of passages like this: berichtete in = reported in — Berichtet wird auch = it is also reported — nach Aussage = per testimony — wird betont = was claimed — etc etc etc — you’d think that if a program of experimentation as extensive as claimed had existed/taken place, there would some documentary evidence of it — some scrap — but there is none, absolutely none — only statements (of so-called ‘witnesses’), claims of people, etc — it’s all ridiculous.

        Mengele most lied about man

        Maybe — perhaps the “most lied about” woman of that era is Ilse Koch.

        Comment by eah — November 28, 2016 @ 2:00 am

    • “Nice to see they didn’t learn anything positive from their interment there.”

      Why would they learn anything positive being locked up against their will and starved, Jim?

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 27, 2016 @ 6:31 pm

      • You wrote: “Why would they [the Jews] learn anything positive [by] being locked up against their will and starved, Jim?”

        The Jews who were “locked up” and “starved” might have asked themselves “Why me? What did I ever do that caused the Germans to treat me like this?” It might have dawned on them that the Germans did not think kindly of them because of their lying, cheating and stealing.

        Comment by furtherglory — November 28, 2016 @ 8:21 am

        • I guess you were there to see who were locked up and starved?
          Jeff really now…The questions to ask are…
          Why were they locked up, that would indicate some criminal activity as most Jews weren’t locked up and moved freely around the camps.
          Why did they starve…was there a lack of food in the camp? Were they sick?
          There are many reasons why bad things happened to supposedly “innocent” Jews but you don’t know because you weren’t there.
          You just parrot what was already said, by whom? People that lied about the gas chambers?
          If any Jew was dealt with unjustly you can bet they deserved it.
          They all weren’t as innocent as you make them.

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 8:56 am

          • “I guess you were there to see who were locked up and starved?
            Jeff really now…The questions to ask are…
            Why were they locked up, that would indicate some criminal activity as most Jews weren’t locked up and moved freely around the camps.”

            Don’t know much about history, do you, Jim?

            “Why did they starve…was there a lack of food in the camp? Were they sick?”

            They starved because they didn’t get enough food, Jim. That’s how that works.

            “There are many reasons why bad things happened to supposedly “innocent” Jews but you don’t know because you weren’t there.
            You just parrot what was already said, by whom? People that lied about the gas chambers?
            If any Jew was dealt with unjustly you can bet they deserved it.”

            Women and children, they deserved that because they were Jews, right, Jim?

            “They all weren’t as innocent as you make them.”

            Sure. Because a nine-year-old child deserved to be locked in a concentration camp.

            Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 12:05 pm

            • Jeff…I thought all the children under 15 were killed right off the train?
              I guess not, seems like most of them survived.

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 12:15 pm

              • “Jeff…I thought all the children under 15 were killed right off the train?
                I guess not, seems like most of them survived.”

                Again, Jim shows his piss poor understanding of the history he is trying to debunk.

                Jim, those were pictures of children in ghettos. Ghettos were not death camps, children lived there with their famillies.

                As far as Drancy, it was an internment/transit camp. It was never a death camp and no one ever claimed that it was.

                Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 12:27 pm

        • I guess these soldiers deserved what they got right Jeff?
          It’s all about the Jews with you even though millions of other suffered even worse then them.
          This was below vengeful but that is not a concern of yours.

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 9:15 am

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            There were no “Rhineland Death Camps,” no “Eisenhower Death Camps,” Jim.

            I even wrote about them here:

            http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27306

            Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 12:31 pm

            • You wrote: “There were no “Rhineland Death Camps,” no “Eisenhower Death Camps,” Jim.”

              Many years ago, I met a man who had been a prisoner in Eisenhower’s Rheinland death camp. He told me that an American soldier had taken pity on him and had allowed him to escape. He eventually came to America and wrote a book about his experience in Eisewnhower’s camp. I believe his story of the abuse suffered by the German prisoners. I wrote about it on these two blog posts:
              https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/eisenhowers-death-camps/

              https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/eisenhowers-death-camps-a-stain-on-american-history/

              Comment by furtherglory — November 28, 2016 @ 1:06 pm

              • Never happened.

                The German POWs did suffer to an extent, undoubtedly some did die due to the conditions in the camps.

                But, there was no systematic plan to exterminate German POWs. Most were released except those taken into French custody.

                Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 4:41 pm

                • What I get out of the whole situation is that they were horribly treated I’m not saying that Eisenhower wanted to kill them like you believe that Hitler wanted to kill the Jews but they were treated horribly and many did die the exact number who knows I have to look into that more because there’s not much information in that.
                  Another thing that concerns me is if a million of these soldiers did die where will they buried in if they weren’t buried with a cremated that kind of concerns me because that’s a lot of people to deal with. And that’s why I don’t believe in the whole hoax with the Jews because there’s no way in hell you can bury or cremate the amount of people that they say were involved in these camps.
                  The Jews were there as a Workforce providing a service to Germany that’s it. Sure thousands were killed in the line of duty of fighting the German Reich but that’s what they deserved in the time of War in regards to the other deaths I don’t think it was more than 500,000 Jews at the most give or take who died in these camps, and Hitler didn’t have it out for them because they were Jews.
                  I will say that I think the German soldiers were treated worse than the Jews in the camps were.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 5:25 pm

            • I went to the “skeptic forum” and read the post which you cited.

              Years ago, before I became a Holocaust denier, I wrote about Eisenhower’s death camps on my website at
              http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EasternGermany/Gotha/index.html

              I didn’t know until now that there is Eisenhower death camp denial.

              Comment by furtherglory — November 28, 2016 @ 1:23 pm

              • I repeat:
                There were no Eisenhower Death Camps.

                Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 4:37 pm

                • I guess all these Germans were on vacation….

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 4:42 pm

                • Don’t blame Eisenhower.

                  Hitler put those poor souls in that mess.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 4:46 pm

                • You wrote: “Don’t blame Eisenhower. Hitler put those poor souls in that mess.”

                  I assume that you are talking about the Rhine meadow camps. I wrote about Eisenhower’s camps on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/eisenhowers-death-camps-a-stain-on-american-history/

                  As I have mentioned before, I met a man who was in Eisenhower’s camp. He told me all about the horror of Eisenhower’s camp.

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 28, 2016 @ 5:10 pm

                • You wrote: “There were no Eisenhower Death Camps.”

                  The Americans were very proud of Eisenhower’s death camps. That’s why they made a movie about it:

                  Why are you denying Eisenhower’s death camps?

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 28, 2016 @ 5:23 pm

                • Because they didn’t exist, not in the way deniers want.
                  The German POW camps in the Rhineland were bad places but there is no comparison with the Death Camps or the Soviet POW camps in 1941-1942 ran by the Wehrmacht.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 5:31 pm

                • You wrote:”The German POW camps in the Rhineland were bad places but there is no comparison with the Death Camps or the Soviet POW camps in 1941-1942 ran by the Wehrmacht.”

                  You are obviously reading only one side of history — the Jewish side. It is time for you to read the other side. I have written several blog posts under the tag “death camps”.

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/death-camps/

                  Comment by furtherglory — November 28, 2016 @ 5:41 pm

                • What other side?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 7:11 pm

                • Soviets had the death camps Germans had the work camps.
                  No comparison……

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 6:05 pm

                • So, are you saying that the Soviet POW camps that the Wehrmacht ran were not death camps?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 7:10 pm

                • Soviet camps were run by the Soviets….DUH!
                  Don’t know of any German death camps…..of course if you died in any camp it would be considered a death camp for you I would think.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 7:32 pm

                • “Soviet camps were run by the Soviets….DUH!”

                  No, Jim. I said Soviet POW camps run by the Wehrmacht.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 8:09 pm

                • If the Germans put Soviets in prisons then they deserved to be there.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 8:33 pm

          • Why are Holocaust believers always also Rhine Death camp deniers and Dresden bombing minimizers? Not enough blood geysers, electrocution death chambers and technically-absurd gas chambers for them? Oh yes, I was forgetting. That’s because they’re nothing but politically-biased storytellers. Their only evidential standard is: Is that good or bad for Israel’s alleged right to exist and for the Allies’ cartoon-style self-revering myths on WW2. Good = undeniable fact. Bad = 15 hysterical smileys and 0 argument. What a gang of bipolar wackos !!

            Comment by hermie — November 29, 2016 @ 4:25 am

            • “Why are Holocaust believers always also Rhine Death camp deniers”

              Because deniers overestimate the amount of German POWs that died in a pathetic attempt for moral equivalency.

              “and Dresden bombing minimizers?

              What’s to minimize? Probably around 25,000 German civilians died in Dresden. That’s a lot of civilians that died.

              “Not enough blood geysers, electrocution death chambers and technically-absurd gas chambers for them?”

              What is absurd is deniers that drone on and on and on and on and on and on about things that are irrelevant to the actual historical event. I call it denieritis.

              “Oh yes, I was forgetting. That’s because they’re nothing but politically-biased storytellers.”

              That’s hysterical, you mean saying that a million German POWs died in “Eisenhower Death Camps” and what? 600,000 Germans died during the bombing of Dresden? Isn’t politically motivated?

              “Their only evidential standard is: Is that good or bad for Israel’s alleged right to exist”

              It’s funny how delusional you are. I call it “Jim Rizoliitus.”

              “and for the Allies’ cartoon-style self-revering myths on WW2.”

              There’s that delusion again.

              ” Good = undeniable fact. Bad = 15 hysterical smileys and 0 argument. What a gang of bipolar wackos !!”

              Any more whacky than thinking that humans used to have an innate ability to sense Jews?

              That’s some funny shit.

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 29, 2016 @ 5:52 am

              • BD wrote: “Because deniers overestimate the amount of German POWs that died in a pathetic attempt for moral equivalency.”

                Or the Allies just supported the Zionist Holohoax in a pathetic (but successful) attempt to distract public opinion and conceal the fact that the warriors of ‘civilization’ had just murdered tens of millions of civilians in order to prevail.

                BD wrote: “What’s to minimize? Probably around 25,000 German civilians died in Dresden. That’s a lot of civilians that died.”

                Yes, that’s a lot. But that’s still around 20 times less than the real number.

                BD wrote: “What is absurd is deniers that drone on and on and on and on and on and on about things that are irrelevant to the actual historical event. I call it denieritis.”

                Funny to see you invent names to get rid of what annoys you. I used to do that too…when I was 10 years old.

                BD wrote: “That’s hysterical, you mean saying that a million German POWs died in “Eisenhower Death Camps” and what? 600,000 Germans died during the bombing of Dresden? Isn’t politically motivated?”

                The warriors of ‘civilization’ used to boast about the big number of German POWs they had just killed. And they also used to concede that they had killed ‘more than 300,000’ civilians at Dresden. But that puff of honesty, so unusual on the Allied side, didn’t last very long…

                BD wrote: “It’s funny how delusional you are. I call it “Jim Rizoliitus.””

                Nice joke. Don’t forget to take your well-deserved sticker at the teacher’s desk at the end of this lesson ,boy.

                BD wrote: “Any more whacky than thinking that humans used to have an innate ability to sense Jews? That’s some funny shit.”

                Sense Jews? You mean to be able to detect and identify Jews visually through their ethnic features? With some practice, that’s something rather easy to do.

                Comment by hermie — November 29, 2016 @ 8:49 am

        • FG wrote “The Jews who were “locked up” and “starved” might have asked themselves “Why me? What did I ever do that caused the Germans to treat me like this?” It might have dawned on them that the Germans did not think kindly of them because of their lying, cheating and stealing.”

          So according to you FG, the babies and children were liars, cheats and thieves too, or did they deserve to be punished with their parents because they were Jews too?

          Comment by Anonymouse — November 28, 2016 @ 10:20 am

          • Show us how the children suffered?
            I’ve never even seen a picture of a dead child in the camps….many children survived after the war contrary to what the HoloHuxsters say. The children were well taken care of….the German children on the other hand suffered greatly who lived outside the camps.

            The real Holocaust was with the Germans….

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 10:24 am

            • “Show us how the children suffered?”

              Just a taste, Jim:

              https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/gallery/DRAN.htm

              So, separating children from their parents…just for a start, mind you….that’s healthy for children? You have an odd view of what is healthy for children.

              “I’ve never even seen a picture of a dead child in the camps….”

              How about a starving child in a ghetto?

              https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/media_ph.php?ModuleId=10005142&MediaId=1041

              How about a dead child in the ghetto?

              https://www.google.com/search?q=dead+children+in+Warsaw+Ghetto&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=qXAf9dDw8aaW0M%3A

              How about a child getting ready to be shot?

              “many children survived after the war contrary to what the HoloHuxsters say.”

              Of course some of them did. A lot of them did not.

              “The children were well taken care of….”

              You have a weird view on “well taken care of.”

              “the German children on the other hand suffered greatly who lived outside the camps.”

              Yes, they did. Adolf Hitler is to blame for their suffering.

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 11:54 am

              • Jeff you are so out to lunch on this one…..there was a war going on people suffered and died, thats whats happens. Show me that Hitler wanted to kill all the children?
                Germans were dropping like flies too, and you blame Hitler….LOL
                Hitler didn’t bomb the bridges and rail lines that brought the food to all the people the allies did!
                So you have a warped view of history. Take a good look who made the situation in Germany bad.
                It wasn’t Hitler, but you HoloHuxsters have to blame someone so you blame Hitler the one actually who wanted to stop the pain.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — November 28, 2016 @ 12:01 pm

        • “The Jews who were “locked up” and “starved” might have asked themselves “Why me? What did I ever do that caused the Germans to treat me like this?” It might have dawned on them that the Germans did not think kindly of them because of their lying, cheating and stealing.”

          Yes, woman and children deserved to be locked up because a revolting stereotype. That’s a perfectly reasonable standpoint.

          So, a (Jewish) child deserved this?

          https://www.google.com/search?q=dead+children+in+Warsaw+Ghetto&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=qXAf9dDw8aaW0M%3A

          Or this?

          https://www.google.com/search?q=dead+children+in+Warsaw+Ghetto&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgdii=qXAf9dDw8aaW0M%3A%3BM-aOnxFy7S5AJM%3A%3BM-aOnxFy7S5AJM%3A&imgrc=M-aOnxFy7S5AJM%3A

          Or this?

          https://www.google.com/search?q=einsatzgruppen+pictures+children&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=owAQ126pzzQTSM%3A

          Does the little girl hiding behind her family before she was shot like a rabid dog….she deserved that because she was a Jew?

          Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — November 28, 2016 @ 12:00 pm

  5. ” Including Theresienstadt in what was then Czechoslovakia “…ur it was in the then Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. If they are going to publish puff pieces from the holocaust industry they should at least get the facts right.

    Comment by peter — November 26, 2016 @ 12:17 pm


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