Scrapbookpages Blog

December 8, 2016

Remembering the day when the Jews declared war on Germany

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, Uncategorized — furtherglory @ 6:44 am

WarOnGermany.jpg

BoycottGermanGoods.jpg

Who started the war between Germany and the Jews, and when did it start?  Good question! Most people think that Germany was to blame — the Jews were innocent victims who never did anything wrong.

An article which you can read here explains how it got started: http://altrighthistoryoftheus.weebly.com/world-war-ii.html

Begin quote

In 1933, shortly after Hitler first came to power in Germany, Jews around the globe declared economic warfare on Germany. Launching a global boycott of German made goods, Jews worldwide refused to sell any merchandise made in or imported from Germany in their stores. This retaliatory measure was adopted by Jews around the world as an attack against the Third Reich.

Hitler’s government was determined to wrest control of the German banking system, the media, and other professions out of the hands of Jewish Communists who hoped to lead a second Bolshevik Revolution, imposing Communism not only on Germany but on all of Western Europe, just as they had done less than two decades earlier in Czarist Russia.

Once Hitler came to power, he set about to remove Jews and other subversives from positions of influence, ordering the Jews to leave Germany, or else they would be rounded up and placed in labor camps and detention facilities to await deportation out of Germany.

While some Jews did choose to leave Germany, most refused and were placed in concentration camps. The camps built and run by the Germans were much like the camps operated by the United States in which Japanese Americans were confined following the bombing of Pearl Harbor. They were monitored by the International Red Cross and were operated in compliance with the terms of the 1929 Geneva Convention.

End quote

199 Comments »

  1. For anyone interested — I did eventually find an email address for the person who put up the web page cited in this blog post (http://altrighthistoryoftheus.weebly.com/world-war-ii.html) — the foto caption about using Zyklon B to disinfect people (!) has been changed to say DDT (which is probably correct) — the foto on the left, where it says Zyklon B canisters are being unloaded, is also found on the English language Wikipedia page on Zyklon B, where it says it was taken in 1939, in New Orleans (fwiw) — apparently Zyklon B was also used in the US.

    Comment by eah — December 12, 2016 @ 8:39 am

    • At least we got that straightened out or you did anyway.
      How did you find his email address I might want to email him about some things.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — December 13, 2016 @ 11:12 am

      • How did you find his email address

        It’s on this page — I am not sure how responsive he will be — he seems mostly interested in other things, eg genealogy — the pages on The Clan Akins are quite impressive — he put in a lot of work on them.

        Comment by eah — December 13, 2016 @ 12:18 pm

        • Thanks for the link to his email…
          I sent him a line or two.

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — December 13, 2016 @ 1:59 pm

    • Aaaawww, that’s too bad. It was funny.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 31, 2016 @ 2:57 pm

  2. Exposing the HoloHoax lie brings consequences.
    http://www.rudemacedon.ca/kaminski/05/1118-speech.html

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 11:53 am

    • Sure, blaming the victims after you killed them is a well known antisemitic tactic that not even one serious person buys it anymore. Interesting this hatemonger racist is supportive to Milosevic and Saddam, but no surprise, they killed too for nothing whole populations just because it happen to be born in the ‘wrong’ communities.

      Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 12:13 pm

      • Like the testimonies of all the big bad Nazis can be trusted…Don’t think so!
        https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=8107

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 12:17 pm

      • One thing I learned from the Jew run media is this….. whatever they say happened if the opposite of what happened.
        Anyone who is the US’s bad guy is actually the good guy and the US is the bad guy.
        So for you to have faith in ANYTHING the Jew run media says shows me your out to lunch.
        You are the typical brain dead Jew led lemming waiting for the next person you can call Anti-Semitic or a hater.
        Because as you know….IT’S ALL ABOUT THE JEWS!

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 12:27 pm

        • Yes – its all about the poor suffering Jews, yet again – who are now collecting life-long pensions, and have a state of their own in Palestine which is generously supported and subsidized by German and American taxpayers.

          But I note that Mr Ouzo from Thessaloniki in northern Greece hasn’t told us anything yet about the very real massacres that took place in his neck of the woods during the Greek-Turkish War between 1919 and 1922. ( But of course, the victims here weren’t Jews, so they probably don’t matter very much. )

          I would have thought that this tragic episode of history would have occupied his time, though, rather than asking us to shed bucket-loads of tears on behalf of Greek Jews, who are probably living very comfortably, thank you very much, in the Americas, Australia and Israel.

          Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 1:29 pm

          • “I would have thought that this tragic episode of history would have occupied his time, though, rather than asking us to shed bucket-loads of tears on behalf of Greek Jews, who are probably living very comfortably, thank you very much, in the Americas, Australia and Israel.”

            Numbers, Talbot and proof.

            Approximately how many of these Greek Jews are currently living in the Americas, Australia and Israel? How many of them are receiving reparations and how much are they receiving?

            Or, is this just more Talbot guessing?

            Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 10, 2016 @ 2:11 pm

            • Yawn! – Mr Brycesdaddy.

              You had better ask Yad Vashem for the answers you seek, because they publicly state that most surviving Greek Jews who were liberated from the camps chose to emigrate to North and South America, Australia, as well as Israel. You can ask them what the actual numbers were, and then you can contact the holocaust compensation organisations to find out how much bounty is distributed amongst the worthy survivors.

              Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 2:35 pm

              • “You had better ask Yad Vashem for the answers you seek, because they publicly state that most surviving Greek Jews who were liberated from the camps chose to emigrate to North and South America, Australia, as well as Israel. You can ask them what the actual numbers were, and then you can contact the holocaust compensation organisations to find out how much bounty is distributed amongst the worthy survivors.”

                I’m asking you. You made the statement. Now back it up.

                Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 10, 2016 @ 2:50 pm

                • Get lost, Brycesdaddy – I’m not doing your research for you. Yad Vashem and the organisations who promote this holocaust fairy tale will provide you with all the answers that could possibly meet your heart’s desire.

                  Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 3:04 pm

                • “Get lost, Brycesdaddy – I’m not doing your research for you. Yad Vashem and the organisations who promote this holocaust fairy tale will provide you with all the answers that could possibly meet your heart’s desire.”

                  No, Talbot.

                  You said:
                  “I would have thought that this tragic episode of history would have occupied his time, though, rather than asking us to shed bucket-loads of tears on behalf of Greek Jews, who are probably living very comfortably, thank you very much, in the Americas, Australia and Israel.”

                  I didn’t say that, you did. On what basis did you make the above statement? What statistics or other research did you use to make the above statement?

                  Surely you didn’t say that without basis….did you?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 10, 2016 @ 3:31 pm

                • This is just another Talbot guess that he likes pass as fact. What a pity.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 10, 2016 @ 3:43 pm

                • Now listen here Mr Brycesdaddy – we are still waiting to find out where the alleged human remains of one million, one hundred thousand victims lie buried in around the Auschwitz complex. Please will you kindly show us any official report that details the search, and all the archaeological and forensic work carried out over the last 70 years, that proves convincingly that this number of human beings were murdered there.

                  Can you point us in the direction of any technical or scientific report that details how the alleged mass-murder process was undertaken at Auschwitz/Birkenau?

                  These are the more important questions that need answering on this blog.

                  But your queries about how many Greek Jews survived WW2, and then emigrated to other far-flung countries in the world can only be answered by the International Red Cross (probably); the governments who accepted these migrants; or various Jewish organisations. I don’t know the actual figures, but I’m guided by Yad Vashem who state quite clearly that MOST of the Greek Jews who were in European displacement camps emigrated to the three vast continents previously stated, or Israel.

                  If you want to find out more information, then please go ahead and contact Yad Vashem. Thank you, and Good Night.

                  Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 4:24 pm

                • No, I’m asking you. On what basis did you base your above statement about where the Greek Jews went?

                  Or, typical for you, did you just guess?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 10, 2016 @ 5:10 pm

                • Oh No! Now it’s where did the Greek Jews go!
                  Honestly…that’s your problem to prove.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 5:24 pm

                • “Oh No! Now it’s where did the Greek Jews go!
                  Honestly…that’s your problem to prove.”

                  No, it’s a denier problem to prove. Talbot is the one who brought it up.

                  History records most of those Jews died. Deniers say they didn’t.
                  Fine. What happened to them?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 10, 2016 @ 5:26 pm

                • It’s pretty simple they must have teamed up with the other Jews in Treblinka and Auschwitz and all the other camps and went off into the wilderness.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 5:50 pm

                • You did see Mr Talbot’s distortion. He’s an absolutely unreliable person and probably an idiot who doesn’t know he’s an idiot.

                  Yad Vashm states ‘most of THE SURVIVORS went to …’ (that is most of the 2.000 survivors of the 55.000 or so Salonica Jews)

                  Mr Talbot, stated ‘MOST of the Greek Jews who were in European displacement camps emigrated …’, (that is most of the whole Greek Jewish population), a clear distortion.

                  Thank you for the great laugh, Mr Talbot.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 1:01 am

                • No, Mr Talbot, stop embarrassing yourself.
                  Yad Vashem states that from almost 78.000 Greek Jews before the war only 8-10.000 or so survived.
                  And for Salonica, from about 55.000 Jews before the war, only a couple of thousands survived.

                  You make these ugly statements, you should back them up.

                  As for the rest of your comment, well, try Robert Jan van Pelt 770-pages report.

                  An excerpt:

                  Part Two, entitled “Concerning Evidence,” presents and reviews the blinding evidence of the use of the camp as a site for mass extermination as it became slowly available during the war as the result of reports by escaped inmates, as it was narrated in the eye-witness accounts by former Auschwitz inmates immediately after their liberation in other concentration camps, as it was confirmed in forensic investigations undertaken in 1945 and 1946, and as it was corroborated by confessions of leading German personnel employed at the camp during its years of operation. In this section of the report it will become clear that it is highly implausible that knowledge about Auschwitz was a war-time fabrication by British propagandists, as Irving has claimed. Instead it will be shown how our knowledge about Auschwitz emerged from a convergence of independent accounts, how it emerged cumulatively, in geometrical progression, acquiring an epistemological status located somewhere in the realm framed on the one hand by a judgement that knows a fact “beyond reasonable doubt,” and on the other hand by the always receding horizon that promises unqualified certainty. It will be shown that, in the words of John Wilkins, we may assert as “moral certainty” the statement that Auschwitz was an extermination camp where the Germans killed around one million people with the help of gas chambers, and where they incinerated their remains in crematoria ovens.24

                  Part Three, entitled “Concerning Documents,” discusses the few surviving German documents, produced during the war, that confirm the use of Auschwitz as an extermination camp, and allow us to gain an insight into the course of development that changed an “ordinary” concentration camp designed to incarcerate (political)opponents into an extermination camp for a whole ethnic group. Only a few documents survived the general systematic destruction of evidence which took place as the Final Solution unfolded in Auschwitz, and which was completed with the burning of the archives of the Auschwitz Kommandantur in January 1945. Together, the first three parts will amply establish beyond reasonable doubt that Auschwitz was an extermination camp that claimed by means of purposefully designed crematoria equipped with gas chambers the deaths of at least a million people, most of whom were Jews.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 12:44 am

                • Bravo! Hahahaha, oh my God, he’s stupid.

                  The whole world can see now how ridiculous you are, Mr Talbot.

                  Yad Vashm states ‘most of THE SURVIVORS emigrated to …’ (that is most of the 2.000)

                  You, Mr Talbot, stated ‘MOST of the Greek Jews who were in European displacement camps emigrated …’, a clear distortion

                  Aren’t you ashamed a little?

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 12:56 am

                • http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/education/learning_environments/salonika

                  Quote;- ” Some survivors were struggling to regain some of their family property and rebuild their lives in Salonika, but most chose to start their lives anew in Israel, the United States, Canada, Australia, or South America. Like Holocaust survivors from other countries, survivors from Salonika struggled to gather fragments of their previous lives in order to build new lives and establish families. Survivors who immigrated to Israel took an active part in building their own country and society. ”

                  Now it really is good night from me this time.

                  Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 5:43 pm

                • How many immigrated? You didn’t say, Talbot. All of them? Some of them? The link doesn’t work for me, Talbot. So, how many?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 10, 2016 @ 5:53 pm

                • So I see you are still crying your heart out on behalf of the missing Jews from Salonika, Mr Ouzo. No one is doubting that large numbers of Greek Jews and non-Jews perished during WW2. After all, the country was invaded by Italy, Germany, and Great Britain (twice) during the conflict, and many innocent people lost their lives, or were displaced by the necessities and cruelties of such a terrible war.

                  But the trouble with people like you is that you neglect all the non-Jewish victims and concentrate entirely on a tiny minority group – who we all know had it tough during that period in history. But so what – other people suffered just as badly as well.

                  As I mentioned previously, you make no attempt to write about – or express any kind of sympathy or sorrow – for the Greek and Armenian Christians, or the Turkish Moslems who were massacre victims of the Greco-Turkish war of 1919-1922, which I would have thought would have had equal resonance with you personally, seeing that you claim that you are from Thessaloniki.

                  And in future, please refrain from quoting Robert Jan Van Pelt at me. I regard him as a utterly discredited gentleman when it come to these matters. He has stated publicly that only 1% of the Holocaust can be physically proved to have occurred, which means than 99% of it is totally based on dubious testimonies and pure hearsay. To me, that is not a satisfactory state of affairs at all – but still….

                  Comment by Talbot — December 11, 2016 @ 9:30 am

                • I do talk for the Greek and the Armenian genocides by the Turks in other occasions. My half family comes from Asia Minor and was a victim of the Turks. I am also participating in organizing memorials and other events on the subject.
                  Bulgaria was the third country that was invaded Greece during WWII. Great Britain was first in the beginning of the war an ally and in the end an ally-invader.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 10:16 am

                • You wrote: “My half family comes from Asia Minor and was a victim of the Turks.”

                  What is a “half family”?

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 11, 2016 @ 10:19 am

                • Keep in mind that English is not my mother language, and that it’s normal for me to make often mistakes, one after another, since I do not think in English. I think i Greek and then I translate in English. I mean my family from my mother’s side, not both my parents’ families.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 10:41 am

  3. Klingon…..You said
    “Why should all Jewish babies in a lot of countries had to be killed?”
    Now you sound like the the WW! nutsos that spread the lies that the Germans were bayoneting babies….Nice try!
    That rumor was exposed many years ago.
    Are you really that stupid or too young too know about that.
    You show me ANYWHERE where the Germans were killing Jew babies in any way shape or form……..a picture would be nice…oh, thats right, they didn’t take pictures of those things happening, pictures of everything else but, the photographer was off that day…..LOL No picture NO proof….
    You just another rabble rowser that has come here to spew you HoloHuxster crap. You make statement with NO PROOF….but you think we’re going to let you off the hook to make it look like you know what your talking about…LOL
    Travel back to your HoloHoax hole at the Skeptics site and keep dreaming about how the Germans gassed 6 million Jews with bug spray.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — December 9, 2016 @ 1:24 pm

    • I didn’t say anything about bayonets. I’m talking for the extermination of babies and kids as soon as they arrived in the camps along with anyone else that wasn’t fir for labor. For example, where are the kids and babies of (my city) Salonica, Greece Jews? There were thousands of them before the war. Where are they now? Each family has a story to tell along with pictures from the killed kids prior to 1941. These are facts, no matter what you my poor hatemonger say. I know many families, I’ve talked to them, I simply know it because this is the truth for thousand innocent people that the hate like yours drove them to death for no reason other than the one that tells us that people like you are still living in the Middle Ages.

      Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 4:07 am

      • You wrote: ” where are the kids and babies of (my city) Salonica,”

        The “kids and babies” of your city, Salonica, are all grown up now and they are demanding more money from Germany. I wrote about the Greek Jews on this blog post:
        https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/greek-jews/

        Comment by furtherglory — December 10, 2016 @ 8:13 am

        • No, you’re wrong. All of them are dead, and I have seen a lot of pictures of them by crying relatives who had no reason to lie. Perhaps if you come to Salonica, you should pay a visit to the Museum to check for yourself.

          As for your piece on Greek reparations, it’s total crap from an ignorant. You don’t know nothing. The 25 millions is something the Jewish community asks for.
          The Greek demands are for the loans that the Germans took from National Bank of Greece during the war (and which they started to pay it back in 1944) and for other damages and these demands that have nothing to do with the 25 millions.

          Please, make a try to distinct them. You seem like you are unable to make a very simple thought:
          If it was only 25 millions it would be resolved by now.

          Unless you have mixed these two separate cases on purpose which is the most possible.

          Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 8:41 am

      • Klingon….Really now! Many children survived in the camps and there are plenty of pictures showing just that.
        There were also thousands of children that were born in the camps and if your theory is right they would of been killed right away but guess what, they weren’t, they survived to tell their stories. Just because the children from your country didn’t come back does not mean they were killed. They most likely ended up somewhere where they assimilated in the new area and there was no way of communicating with the outside, or they could of died by natural causes.
        If they did survive I’m sure they have their hands out to collect their reparation blood money.
        You really should start educating yourself on what really happened but you seem to be like all the others that believe the HoloHoax lie, you can’t be shown anything that will go against your HoloHoax Cult thinking. You have a story that is based on lies and are not man or woman?? enough to change your thinking or admit you are wrong.
        The information is in the links below start reading them and clear you mind of the Holohoax trash you’ve been brainwashed with for all your past years.

        JR
        HOLOCAUSTHANDBOOKS.COM
        CODOH.COM
        IHR.ORG
        VHO.ORG
        CCFIILE.COM

        Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 10:09 am

        • I had read them in an extent where I can say that I know all the deniers’ tricks and lies. The fact that I am not wasting my time to deal with the logistics and the pseudo-scientific literature of the deniers, (and therefore to concentrate more on your tactics) is because all these doubts of yours and all this bizarre and silly questioning of bricks and gas and human remains and tattoos’ shapes and ink quantity in survivors’ arms etc have been answered by many scholars and experts.

          In fact, you should start reading what the nazis had themselves said on the matter. No need to prove them wrong, they will be mad at you watching from above the hell their grandchildren like you denying what their real plan was.

          For anyone studying the nazi literature from the 20s to the very end of the war, it’s obvious that whatever their partial plans for the Jews were until 1939, by the beginning of the war the aim was to annihilate the Jews no matter what.
          We have plenty of proof nowadays:

          – The end of the battle against the Bolshevist army in the East is German victory and therefore the victory of Gentile humanity over the most dangerous instrument of the Jewish world destroyers. The cause of the world’s misfortune, however, will be forever eliminated only when Jewry in its entirety is destroyed (vernichtet).
          (Bolshevism and Synagogue by Julius Streicher)

          This September 1941 editorial from the Sturmer was written about two months after the beginning of the invasion of the Soviet Union, which looked to be going well. Streicher makes a clear call to annihilate the Jews at the end, one of numerous such calls in the Sturmer during the war.

          http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/ds10.htm

          Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 10:42 am

          • Klingon…
            Funny you mention about the Nazis and what they had to say…. you do know that most of their Testimony was tortured out of them and they would say anything to protect themselves and their families so there’s nothing that comes from the Nazis that I would think that I could trust from them especially if the Soviets were the middlemen in between all this…. so sure you can quote all your things and say the Nazi said this in the Nazi said that but we’re still dealing with the logistics of how this all went down and you’re the one thar has to explain to me how six million Jews were killed in fake gas Chambers set up after the war with bug spray.
            I find it interesting that you don’t comment on that topic because you know how ridiculous the holohoax story is and I don’t blame you because it really is ridiculous and hard to believe.
            So if anything I can say positive about you I would hope that you’re smart enough to know that you don’t quote lies and misinformation.
            And if you do then you’re stupider than you come off to be.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 10:53 am

            • If you had paid attention, you should have noticed that I’m not talking about their testimonies in the hands of the Allies.

              I was talking about their own publications, newspapers, magazines, journals etc.
              Try to read a little Streicher or a little Robert Ley and you’ll see.

              But since you mentioned it, are you any familiar with the trials that took place in the 60s and 70s (mostly) for the middle-class or middle-to-high-class officers in Germany?
              Then you should know that a lot of evidence was presented there, along with these officers’ testimonies towards their country, and a lot of reports were presented about, for example, the mass killings of the Jews even in summer and autumn of 1941, in the East.
              Of course, you will deny it too, but the picture comes clear for any objective person. Under the leadership of Himmler, there was a genocide in Ukraine, the Baltic countries and around. Whole villages and towns were exterminated. Hitler was informed for everything and these reports were circulated on 45 or even 55 copies, for everyone in the leadership of the State and the Party to see.

              Lots of reports and evidence, you should search for them, there are in a very special and strange kind of item, called ‘books’.

              Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 11:57 am

            • An another crucial observation:

              Not even a serious person ever said what you’re repeating over and over again, that ‘in WWII 6.000.000 Jews died by spraying’.
              This is the deniers’ narrative.

              Real historians say ‘in WWII 6.000.000 Jews died’, period.
              How many died in the gas chambers is another matter and we can discuss it later.

              But since you mentioned it, I will agree with you in one thing:

              Holocaust was not six millions.
              It was one, plus one, plus one, plus one, plus one, plus one, plus one … until we can reach the 6.000.000th victim.
              One David, and one Sam, and one Sarah, and one Yakov, and one Rachel, and one Yomtov, all were people with families, with relatives, with friends, with their own story and their own life which has to be stopped because of some paranoid conspiracy theories and pure hatred, that you spread around even today.

              Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 12:06 pm

            • Here’s the logistics.
              Robert Jan van Pelt (Professor of Architecture in the School of Architecture, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Canada) 770-pages report on Irving’s trial, for start.

              An excerpt:

              Part Two, entitled “Concerning Evidence,” presents and reviews the blinding evidence of the use of the camp as a site for mass extermination as it became slowly available during the war as the result of reports by escaped inmates, as it was narrated in the eye-witness accounts by former Auschwitz inmates immediately after their liberation in other concentration camps, as it was confirmed in forensic investigations undertaken in 1945 and 1946, and as it was corroborated by confessions of leading German personnel employed at the camp during its years of operation. In this section of the report it will become clear that it is highly implausible that knowledge about Auschwitz was a war-time fabrication by British propagandists, as Irving has claimed. Instead it will be shown how our knowledge about Auschwitz emerged from a convergence of independent accounts, how it emerged cumulatively, in geometrical progression, acquiring an epistemological status located somewhere in the realm framed on the one hand by a judgement that knows a fact “beyond reasonable doubt,” and on the other hand by the always receding horizon that promises unqualified certainty. It will be shown that, in the words of John Wilkins, we may assert as “moral certainty” the statement that Auschwitz was an extermination camp where the Germans killed around one million people with the help of gas chambers, and where they incinerated their remains in crematoria ovens.24

              Part Three, entitled “Concerning Documents,” discusses the few surviving German documents, produced during the war, that confirm the use of Auschwitz as an extermination camp, and allow us to gain an insight into the course of development that changed an “ordinary” concentration camp designed to incarcerate (political)opponents into an extermination camp for a whole ethnic group. Only a few documents survived the general systematic destruction of evidence which took place as the Final Solution unfolded in Auschwitz, and which was completed with the burning of the archives of the Auschwitz Kommandantur in January 1945. Together, the first three parts will amply establish beyond reasonable doubt that Auschwitz was an extermination camp that claimed by means of purposefully designed crematoria equipped with gas chambers the deaths of at least a million people, most of whom were Jews.

              https://www.hdot.org/vanPelt/

              Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 1:07 am

              • (Professor of Architecture in the School of Architecture, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Canada)

                FYI (was discussed here before) — van Pelt is not an architect — he does not have a technical background/education — he is not really a “Professor of Architecture” — he is a “University Professor” at the University of Waterloo, attached to the school of architecture — a list of University Professors at Waterloo — if you click on a few of the names, you will see van Pelt is the only one who has no real educational/research background relevant to the school/department where he is employed — so it appears he is more or less a political appointee — his personal CV/bio at WaterlooCultural historian and author, Robert Jan earned a D.Litt. from Leiden University — he has a liberal arts education — Research interests include: History and philosophy of architecture and urbanism;… — so he has sold himself as a kind of historian of architectural aesthetics — as I recall, he teaches only one class each term, and it is related to this — in it he probably shows slides of buildings to demonstrate how architectural tastes/aesthetics have changed over time — lastly, a Wikipedia list of Dutch architects — van Pelt is not listed because he is not an architect.

                You can push van Pelt’s ‘Holocaust’ work if you want — but he is not an architect.

                In this thread someone wrote: He has stated publicly that only 1% of the Holocaust can be physically proved to have occurred, which means than 99% of it is totally based on dubious testimonies and pure hearsay — this is basically correct — you can read what van Pelt himself says on this if you want — here is what van Pelt’s work on the ‘Holocaust’ amounts to: 0 + 0 + 0 +…+ 0 = 1 — ie he presents a lot of info that no rational person can really take as convincing proof of anything — then at the end he wants you to add up all of those zeroes and get 1 = the ‘Holocaust’ is proved — sorry, but that does not work for any serious revisionist.

                Comment by eah — December 11, 2016 @ 12:52 pm

                • You mentioned Robert Jan van Pelt in your comment.
                  I have written several blog posts about him:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/robert-jan-van-pelt/

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 11, 2016 @ 1:23 pm

                • Thanks — but the correct link is https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/robert-jan-van-pelt/ — yours has an extra ‘Y’ on the end.

                  Comment by eah — December 11, 2016 @ 1:31 pm

                • @eah

                  When you say ‘liberal arts education’, what does it mean, ‘liberal arts’?
                  Also, I think you’ve missed a link. You said ‘you can read what van Pelt himself says on this if you want’, but where exactly?

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 1:37 pm

                • what does it mean, ‘liberal arts’? — it means something not technical — architecture is primarily a technical discipline, related to engineering (of course no one wants an architect who designs ugly buildings, so aesthetics are also important) — I believe his undergraduate degree is in Art History — later he studied the history of architecture — but where exactly? — above you posted a link yourself: https://www.hdot.org/vanPelt/ — here is what he says in PART THREE CONCERNING DOCUMENTS: …any historian who seeks to reconstruct the development and operation of Auschwitz as an extermination camp had to rely in perhaps a greater measure than he or she would feel comfortable with on what Marc Bloch identified as “intentional evidence”–narrative sources such as testimonies, confessions, memoirs and so on…the single-most important Auschwitz archive that did survive the war–that of the Central Construction Office–offers important if not always straightforward evidence that has at least the virtue of freeing us from a complete reliance on the words of witnesses — etc etc — that is pretty clear, isn’t it? — like I said: read it for yourself — if you want to believe 0 + 0 + 0 +…+ 0 = 1, then go ahead — but don’t expect anyone else to — btw, in the Preface to his report, van Pelt describes himself as a “Professor of Architecture”, which I consider slightly dishonest — one would expect a “Professor of Architecture” to teach (some part of) the technical discipline of architecture — but van Pelt does not do that (look up what he teaches), and he would not be allowed to do that — because he is not technically educated — he is not an architect — see the section “My qualifications and expertise”.

                  Comment by eah — December 11, 2016 @ 2:16 pm

                • Good article about Van Pelt
                  http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v21/v21n1p39_vanpelt.html

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 11, 2016 @ 2:22 pm

                • Very interesting that all you think of Leuchter as a credible source, although he is in fact a … historian, he was not an engineer and he was in trouble with the law for posing as one.
                  At least, Jan van Pelt was not a criminal as Leuchter. Leuchter admits that he has no degree or a license even in … Rizoli’s Television Channel (wow, Rizoli has a television of his own, in which frequency can I watch it in Greece, please?)

                  And Leuchter is a liar with a court’s seal, but you still believe him as he was the writer of the Holy Bible. You can criticize and judge Jan van Pelt for his findings but he’s not a fraud like Leuchter. He stole the bricks from the museum without asking!

                  A complete forgery:

                  In 1988, Leuchter traveled to several sites of structures identified as gas chambers, where, although he did not have permission to do so, he collected samples from walls, ceilings and floors, using a chisel and hammer to chip and scrape off pieces of the masonry. He took copious notes about the floor plans and layout, and all of his actions were videotaped by a cameraman. (Leuchter, who had been married for about one month before the trip, told his wife that the trip to Auschwitz-Birkenau was their honeymoon.[14]) Leuchter then brought the samples back to Boston, where he presented them to Alpha Analytical Laboratories, a chemical laboratory, for testing. Leuchter told Alpha only that he would use the samples as evidence in a court case about an industrial accident. The lab tested them for exposure to cyanide and found trace amounts in the crematoria, which Leuchter dismissed in his report:

                  And a liar:

                  Before Leuchter could do this, he was examined by the court. It soon became apparent that Leuchter’s credentials were seriously lacking. He admitted that he was not a toxicologist and dismissed the need for having a degree in engineering, to which the judge responded abruptly:

                  THE COURT: How do you function as an engineer if you don’t have an engineering degree?
                  THE WITNESS: Well, I would question, Your Honour, what an engineering degree is. I have a Bachelor of Arts degree and I have the required background training both on the college level and in the field to perform my function as an engineer.
                  THE COURT: Who determines that? You?
                  —?Exchange between Leuchter and Judge Thomas, Her Majesty the Queen vs. Ernst Zundel, District Court of Ontario 1988, p. 8973.[2]:164

                  Leuchter admitted under oath that he only had a bachelor of arts degree and implicitly suggested that an engineering degree was unavailable to him by saying that his college did not offer an engineering degree during his studies. Boston University actually offered three different kinds of such qualification when he was a student there.[2]:165 The defence continued to obfuscate Leuchter’s credentials. When asked by the court if the B.A. he obtained was in a field that entitled him to operate as an engineer, he confirmed that this was so, even though his degree was in history.[2]:165 Similarly, Leuchter claimed that he obtained most of his research material on the camps (including original crematoria blueprints) from the Auschwitz and Majdanek camps’ archives, and testified that these documents had a far more important role in shaping his conclusions than the physical samples he collected did, yet after the trial the director of the Auschwitz museum categorically denied that Leuchter had received any plans or blueprints.[2]:165

                  Judge Ronald Thomas began to label Leuchter’s methodology as “ridiculous” and “preposterous”, dismissing many of the report’s conclusions on the basis that they were based on “second-hand information”, and refused to allow him to testify on the effect of Zyklon B on humans because he had never worked with the substance, and was neither a toxicologist nor a chemist.[2]:166 Judge Thomas dismissed Leuchter’s opinion because it was of “no greater value than that of an ordinary tourist”, and in regards to Leuchter’s opinion said:

                  His opinion on this report is that there were never any gassings or there was never any exterminations carried on in this facility. As far as I am concerned, from what I’ve heard, he is not capable of giving that opinion….He is not in a position to say, as he said so sweepingly in this report, what could not have been carried on in these facilities.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 1:41 am

                • Very interesting that all you think of Leuchter as a credible source

                  Actually, the only person in this comment thread who has mentioned Leuchter is … you — why am I not surprised that you seek to insult/defame him? — you even call him a “criminal” — question: what crime has Leuchter been convicted of? — why am I not surprised that you have nothing to say re van Pelt’s apparent lack of technical qualification? — btw, Germar Rudolf, who has the equivalent of a PhD in physical chemistry, replicated Leuchter’s basic and most important finding that the amount of ‘prussian blue’ (one of the most stable compounds known) found in samples taken from the alleged ‘gas chambers’ at A-B is basically the same as that found in control samples taken elsewhere in the camp where no gassings with HCN are alleged to have happened.

                  Lastly, Fred Leuchter has two patents — Leuchter’s Patents Described — getting a patent shows some technical ability/expertise, wouldn’t you say? — question: how many patents does van Pelt have?

                  As I said: “You can push van Pelt’s ‘Holocaust’ work if you want — but he is not an architect” — ie don’t imply he has some technical qualification that lends authority to his opinion about ‘gas chambers’ at A-B.

                  Now after your recent remarks, I will add: go away you miserable little hack.

                  Comment by eah — December 12, 2016 @ 2:36 am

                • I mentioned Jan van Pelt once, and I mentioned him for a second time along with Leuchter, knowing that your possible reaction would be ‘he is not qualified’ etc, just to see if you are honest enough to admit that neither Leuchter was qualified or either that he had to make a deal with the law to get rid of his charges against him.
                  A simple test of honesty.
                  Well, you are not.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 3:59 am

                • You wrote: “…just to see if you are honest enough to admit that neither Leuchter was qualified or either that he had to make a deal with the law to get rid of his charges against him.”

                  What were the charges against Fred Leuchter?

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 12, 2016 @ 4:41 am

                • He was practicing engineering without a license.

                  – Fred Leuchter Jr. charged with misrepresentation for calling himself an engineer has avoided trial by reaching a settlement with state prosecutors.
                  Under the agreement, which was struck Tuesday, the defendant, Fred Leuchter Jr., will serve two years’ probation for practicing engineering without a license. The charge, which was filed late last year, could have resulted in a $500 fine and three months in jail had he gone to trial.

                  http://www.nytimes.com/1991/06/13/us/execution-engineer-settles-criminal-case.html

                  – Leuchter, 48, of suburban Malden, was to face trial later this month on charges of practicing engineering without a license, a violation of Massachusetts law. But on June 11, he signed a consent agreement with the board that licenses engineers.
                  In it, Leuchter acknowledged that, “I am not and have never been registered as a professional engineer” and that he nevertheless had represented himself as an engineer in dealings with various states that use the death penalty and to which he supplied equipment or advice.
                  The agreement also requires Leuchter to stop disseminating reports in which he purports to be an engineer, most significantly a document known as the “Leuchter Report.”
                  […]
                  Deborah Lipstadt, a Los Angeles author who is writing a book on the Holocaust revision movement in the United States, said Leuchter was being cited increasingly in revisionist circles as a scientific authority whose report “proved” that Nazi death camps never operated as survivors have said.
                  “The fact that he claimed to be an engineer was central to the whole issue,” Lipstadt said. “He’s not just your local kook. He was their scientific cover. In that sense, he is a substantial figure.”

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/06/18/holocaust-revisionist-admits-he-is-not-engineer/b208816c-6c3c-481e-9d66-545a815f8f36/

                  – HOLOCAUST REVISIONIST ADMITS LYING OF EXPERTISE
                  http://x2t.com/leuchter-deal

                  Your great star was a hoax and he admitted he was lying.

                  Well, you have to live with the truth, you like it or not. And the truth is that a respectable court accepted Dr. Robert Jan van Pelt’s reports (as it accepted Peter Longerich’s reports on the killing intentions of Hitler and the Nazis, he even got awards for his books afterwards) but rejected in a very embarrassing for Leuchter way all his alleged findings.

                  The Judge labeled Leuchter’s methodology as “ridiculous” and “preposterous” and dismissed Leuchter’s opinion because it was of “no greater value than that of an ordinary tourist”. And so, Leuchter is a VIP only in the deniers’ circles, in the fringe. He can give interviews to Rizoli’s television channel, of course, and have even a whole 1.900 views in 15 months. On the contrary, Dr. Robert Jan van Pelt’s work has been awarded and the whole world considers him a very reliable and respectable person. Until another Hitler shows up, you can’t help it. Live with it.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 4:59 am

                • I personally know Fred and I’ll interview him in my home in fact I asked him over for Christmas dinner he can’t make it but in regards to the engineering post…… in Massachusetts you don’t need a license to say you’re an engineer you only needed it if you sign blueprints.
                  There are times you have to admit things in court that you’re really not guilty of because the court system in Massachusetts anyway is pretty corrupt so you have to deal with these things and actually agree to things that weren’t 100% true just to get them off your back. The Leuchter report might have some failings but the Rudolph report takes care of that. Of course what’s your excuse for the Holohuxsters who is saying Krem 1 was a gas chamber when it wasn’t or actually any of the buildings…..none of them had homicidal gas Chambers but you don’t seem too concerned about those lies.
                  I guess lying is ok as long as it’s coming from your side, the revisionist might make mistakes but they’re not outright lying big difference.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 12, 2016 @ 5:14 am

                • You wrote: “I personally know Fred and I’ll interview him in my home…”

                  I recall a video that you made, while you were interviewing Fred not long ago. I thought that Fred had improved a great deal, as he got older. Years ago, he was not very sophisticated, and he was not able to defend himself, as he does now.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 12, 2016 @ 5:26 am

                • Please, be sure to remember to post a comment here, after you’ll upload the video, in order to alert us to watch it.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 5:54 am

                • You wrote: “[Fred Leuchter] was practicing engineering without a license.”

                  I wrote about Fred Leuchter and his criminal activity on this blog post:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/05/26/listen-to-what-a-gas-chamber-expert-had-to-say-about-the-holocaust-gas-chambers/

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 12, 2016 @ 5:16 am

                • Here is my interview with Fred

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 12, 2016 @ 5:22 am

                • You wrote: “He [Fred Leuchter] was practicing engineering without a license.”

                  You are correct. Fred should have gotten a “gas chamber engineering license” after getting a degree in Gas Chamber Engineering. All other gas chamber engineers, who were working in gas chambers at that time, had a degree in gas chamber engineering.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 12, 2016 @ 5:33 am

                • Good article about Fred
                  http://www.revisionists.com/leuchter/whois_leuchter/

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 12, 2016 @ 5:37 am

                • This is your best video ever. Fred comes across as a very nice person, who has a sense of humor.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 12, 2016 @ 5:51 am

                • Fred is a very nice man that has been through a lot. The Jews tried their best to destroy him, but he survived.
                  Funny thing is, he lived only 20 miles away from me and I didn’t know it. Diane who posts here was the one who tracked him down and made it all happen. She has been my right hand “Gal” for getting most all of the Revisionist interviews done. Without her none of this would of happened.
                  I was the last one to interview Bradley Smith before he died last year, and I’m very happy about that.
                  Diane now produces 4 cable shows in my town that play all the HoloHoax programming that I was doing until the Jews succeed in getting me banned for life from producing anything on my local cable channel. Believe it or not She’s producing the same shows I was producing a few years ago, and hasn’t been sanctioned, they haven’t come after her yet.
                  I would think it will be a matter of time.

                  This is why I am so adamant against the Jews and their coverup of the Holohoax…..If what we revisionist were saying was not truthful then why come after us so strongly.. Why make laws that try to prevent us from giving our side of the story….Reason is we are telling the truth and they can’t have that….so they conspire against us in unison all over the world. HoloHoax Deniers as we are called are the most evil people in the Jews mind, and now you can see why.
                  The HoloHuxsters that are posting here don’t get it…this isn’t about the HoloHoax topic per se as much as it is about free speech and the right to say what we want. Of course the HoloHoax topic is the only topic that the Jews defend so vehemently.
                  That can’t allow the cat out of the bag so to speak because it will destroy all credibility of them and people will see how evil and conspiring they really are. Imagine what people would say if they knew this HoloHoax was knowingly planned and then promulgated for the last 70 years. There is NO other topic that has had all this public attention.
                  The Jews know when their goose is cooked thats why they come after us like they do.
                  The HoloHuxsters are just pawns on the Jewish chess board doing the bidding for the Jews and they don’t see it.
                  No surrender!
                  Here is the link Diane put up that has all my Revisionist interviews.

                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk8n9U5z9-ER4_YjU6vHEaQ

                  The truth is out there for all to see if people just remove the blinders that have been put on them
                  by the Jewish propagandist.

                  JR
                  Holocausthandbooks.com
                  IHR.ORG
                  VHO.ORG
                  CODOH.COM
                  CCFIILE.COM

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 12, 2016 @ 11:32 am

                • You wrote: “Fred is a very nice man that has been through a lot. The Jews tried their best to destroy him, but he survived.”

                  I believe you. Fred does seem to be a very nice man. That comes across in your interview with him. He also comes across as very intelligent, but also very modest about his accomplishments.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 13, 2016 @ 4:59 am

                • Here is the most direct link to My Revisionist interviews….hopefully it works don’t know until I put it up.
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk8n9U5z9-ER4_YjU6vHEaQ/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 12, 2016 @ 11:37 am

  4. Not on topic but important for us here….Jeff and fellow HoloHuxsters…..Why would they need to do this?
    Don’t we have a right to criticize anyone we want? Why are the Jews so protective of themselves?
    Why are they so special?
    Laws are made to protect certain people from those who are out to expose them.

    Lawmakers Promote Bill To ‘Combat’ Anti-Semitism and ‘Stereotyping’ of Jews

    US House of Representatives

    https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr6208/text

    A bill submitted by eight members of the House of Representatives will, if enacted, put the US Congress on record as condemning any “stereotypical allegations” about Jews, including remarks that Jews are “controlling the media, economy, government, or other societal institutions.” Titled the “Combatting European Anti-Semitism Act of 2016,” the bill declares that “It is in the national interest of the United States to combat anti-Semitism at home and abroad.” It also condemns any statements “Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.”

    Comment by jrizoli — December 8, 2016 @ 1:57 pm

    • What does this have to do with me, Jim? Contact your Congressperson and complain to them.

      How many times do I have to say that I oppose measures to limit free speech? My only caveat is that if the person is threatening violence to any group then that is hate speech.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 8, 2016 @ 2:08 pm

      • Jeff…..You support these knuckleheads by believing all their garbage….
        I mean think about it, you say you are for free speech bla, bla, bla, and all that good stuff yet the things that we disagree on are the things that your cohorts want to put us in jail for. So at some point in time you either are going to have to put up or shut up…..You either have to defend us when the time comes or be there holding the jail key with a smile on your face. You can’t have it both ways. And in your doing so you will be deciding what side of the free speech issue you are on. The Jews are all encompassing in their worship of themselves. They don’t take kindly to fence sitters, and you definitely don’t defend “Holohoax deniers”…..No matter how much you are for free speech the Deniers are not one to support if you want to get along with the Jews. So for you to say they have a right to say this or that …..to a Jew they say NO THEY DON’T. We have no right to even exist in their minds.

        Honestly I really don’t think you have the balls to stand up and do the right thing….you will fall right in step with these
        violators of history and be happy doing it along with all your buddies at the Skeptic site.
        Sadly, you all are cowards, YOU don’t have the mind set and determination to stand up for anyone rights except your own because you know in the end, the hell you will have to endure from the Jews if you do so.
        Whereas we Revisionist have already been through much prosecution and tough times for speaking against this HoloHoax sacred cow. The good news is I and hopefully many more have no plans to give in and if anything comes out of this that is positive our numbers are climbing everyday. People see what power the Jews have and how they abuse such power. I will not allow the Jew bullies to get away with what they are getting away with and will oppose them with my last dying breath.

        No Surrender!

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — December 8, 2016 @ 2:45 pm

        • “Jeff…..You support these knuckleheads by believing all their garbage….”

          What garbage?

          “I mean think about it, you say you are for free speech bla, bla, bla, and all that good stuff yet the things that we disagree on are the things that your cohorts want to put us in jail for. So at some point in time you either are going to have to put up or shut up…..You either have to defend us when the time comes or be there holding the jail key with a smile on your face.”

          Or I could just act like the Germans while the Nazis were exterminating the Jews……ignore it.

          “You can’t have it both ways. And in your doing so you will be deciding what side of the free speech issue you are on.”

          I’ve explained where I stand on it a million times.

          “The Jews are all encompassing in their worship of themselves. They don’t take kindly to fence sitters, and you definitely don’t defend “Holohoax deniers”…..No matter how much you are for free speech the Deniers are not one to support if you want to get along with the Jews. So for you to say they have a right to say this or that …..to a Jew they say NO THEY DON’T. We have no right to even exist in their minds.”

          I don’t give a fuck what a Jew likes or doesn’t like. I stand for free speech….period.

          “Honestly I really don’t think you have the balls to stand up and do the right thing….you will fall right in step with these
          violators of history and be happy doing it along with all your buddies at the Skeptic site.”

          That’s different, Jim. You violated the rules, after being repeatedly warned not to. You were banned from a forum, not tossed into jail.

          “Sadly, you all are cowards, YOU don’t have the mind set and determination to stand up for anyone rights except your own because you know in the end, the hell you will have to endure from the Jews if you do so.”

          I don’t know any Jews, Jim.

          “Whereas we Revisionist have already been through much prosecution and tough times for speaking against this HoloHoax sacred cow.”

          😂

          Fight the power, Jim.
          How many days have you spent in jail or prison for your belief system, Jim? I’m guessing…..none.

          “The good news is I and hopefully many more have no plans to give in and if anything comes out of this that is positive our numbers are climbing everyday. People see what power the Jews have and how they abuse such power. I will not allow the Jew bullies to get away with what they are getting away with and will oppose them with my last dying breath.”

          OK. You have fun with that.

          Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 8, 2016 @ 3:02 pm

    • You wrote: “Titled the “Combatting European Anti-Semitism Act of 2016,” the bill declares that “It is in the national interest of the United States to combat anti-Semitism at home and abroad.” It also condemns any statements “Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.”

      If this bill is passed, I will be on my way to prison.

      Comment by furtherglory — December 8, 2016 @ 2:10 pm

  5. “Mexican migrant workers being de-loused with Zyklon-B by U.S. Department of Agriculture during the 1930’s”

    Uh, I guess the dumbasses that captioned that photo don’t realize that ZB is deadly to humans.

    The alt right shows again what a collection of dumbasses they truly are.

    So, to sum up, the article is complete crap.

    Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 8, 2016 @ 1:40 pm

    • I figured some idiot would confuse the pictures Berg and Eric Hunt toss around of workers sprayed with DDT (or whatever that is) with Zyklon-B. I was even going to mention this to them. They (Berg and Hunt) don’t make it clear that those pictures are of course NOT Zyklon-B (acutely toxic HCN evaporating of a wood substrate).

      So it looks like we have 2 streams of lazy-minded Revisionists out there now:

      1. Those like Faurisson who speak as if opening a can of Zyklon will kill everyone within a mile radius and blow up the world.
      2. Those like above who think you can spray Zyklon on people harmlessly.

      LOL!

      Comment by blake121666 — December 8, 2016 @ 3:04 pm

      • some idiot

        It’s a ludicrous mistake, to be sure — and while this “WORLD WAR II” page is not novel or interesting (it’s also not “complete crap”), if you click on any of the other topics on top, or on “LINKS”, you see the same person (apparently) has put up a good deal of content — enough to conclude he is not an “idiot” — but I cannot find any contact info, ie to tell/ask about the absurd foto caption.

        Comment by eah — December 8, 2016 @ 6:28 pm

    • a collection of dumbasses

      The so-called ‘alternative right’ is not an organized political movement, eg it’s not a party with its own web site — despite its title, the page linked here has absolutely nothing to do with the ‘alt-right’ — make a note of it — and very many people sympathetic to political views identified with the ‘alt-right’ are not “dumbasses” — make a note of that too.

      Comment by eah — December 8, 2016 @ 6:37 pm

    • I would say it was DDT used in that picture. The Germans used the trade name Zyclon B that was dispersed in pellet form.
      The US used DDT two different products. Some people confuse them and think they are the same.
      Hopefully this pic works.

      Comment by jrizoli — December 8, 2016 @ 7:02 pm

      • This website has the Alt-Right website’s picture:

        https://zinnedproject.org/materials/ringside-seat-to-a-revolution/

        with the caption:

        “Contract Mexican laborers being fumigated with the pesticide DDT in Hidalgo, Texas, in 1956. Photo: National Museum of American History.”

        This caption makes more sense than the website’s claim of 1930s Zyklon. It doesn’t look like a 1930s picture, and DDT wasn’t discovered to have pesticidal properties until 1939. I’m inclined to think that the picture is as captioned here: DDT in 1956. You might want to show them your picture, it is more pertinent – being what looks to be a DP in postwar Europe being sprayed with DDT by a GI.

        Comment by blake121666 — December 9, 2016 @ 1:50 am

  6. “In 1933, shortly after Hitler first came to power in Germany, Jews around the globe declared economic warfare on Germany.”

    😂

    No, they were reacting to grass roots level harassment of German Jews by the SA and local Nazi officials.
    I guess the author forgot that bit.

    “Launching a global boycott of German made goods, Jews worldwide refused to sell any merchandise made in or imported from Germany in their stores.”

    See above.

    “This retaliatory measure was adopted by Jews around the world as an attack against the Third Reich.”

    See above.

    “Hitler’s government was determined to wrest control of the German banking system, the media, and other professions out of the hands of Jewish Communists”

    😂

    I guess the author doesn’t see the inherent contradiction of Communists in the banking system.

    German Jews historically voted for German Centrist Parties.

    I’d like to know the following:

    What percentage of German Jews voted Communist?
    Exactly how many of the Communist Party leadership in Germany were Jewish?
    How many of the heads of the German banking system at that time were Jewish? How many of them were members of the Communist Party? Ditto for the other “industries” this “author” was talking about.

    “who hoped to lead a second Bolshevik Revolution, imposing Communism not only on Germany but on all of Western Europe, just as they had done less than two decades earlier in Czarist Russia.”

    Apparently this author doesn’t know his history. German Communists attempted this in 1919. They were brutally suppressed. I’ll give him/her that the leaders were Jews:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising

    Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 8, 2016 @ 10:39 am

  7. When you ‘re referring to the 1933 front-page ‘Judea declares war on Germany’, all you people are becoming very funny (if not the laugh of the world), saying paranoid things like:

    «The Jews were the aggressors in Germany, and Hitler was operating defensively when he initiated the Holocaust, except that he didn’t initiate the Holocaust, because the Holocaust is a lie perpetrated by the Jews, who deserve to die in a Holocaust»

    OK, let’s say German Jews had to be rounded up and put in camps because Hitler wanted ‘the parasites’ out of his country.
    But what about the Jews from Greece, Yugoslavia, France or Hungary?
    Why did he order to round them up and sent to Germany, too?

    You see, your lies do not make sense. Hitler wanted to exterminate them all, once and for all.

    So, why do you bother? Just say ‘The Holocaust never happened, it is a hoax, but it was awesome’ and we will all understand. And it would be more decent.
    Just free yourself.
    No need to deny the Holocaust just because you can’t praise it.
    This is a little truth that you can’t pronounce. You love the Holocaust and you’re working to repeat it.
    Praise it freely and loud, this is what you really want.

    Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 8, 2016 @ 10:11 am

    • Quote;- “…Hitler wanted to exterminate them all, once and for all.”

      No – I’m quite convinced that this is not the case at all. The “Final Solution of the Jewish Question” was always planned to be a territorial one right from the get-go.

      Before 1939, German Jews were encouraged to emigrate, either to Palestine, or anywhere else in the world. This was only partially successful however, as many countries closed their borders to incoming Jews.

      Then, in the early years of WW2, there were tentative plans to deport European Jews “en-masse” to Madagascar, but the war itself precluded such an ambitious project.

      But early in 1942; what had previously been just a European conflict had turned into a major World War, and Nazi Germany’s policy towards the Jews had to change drastically to reflect this new reality. The evidence suggests that Hitler informed his subordinates that the Jewish question could now only be solved once the war was over ( when Germany had presumably won, and vast amounts of lands inside the former Soviet Union would be available in the East for re-settlement of the Jews ). But until that moment arrived, then firstly;- many Jews would be temporarily held inside concentration camps inside German-occupied Poland and Russia until conditions permitted for them to travel on eastwards.

      But due to the necessities of a hard, protracted war, Germany had to formulate additional policies towards the Jews. So, secondly;- they needed Jews who were able to perform productive work to join the huge labour force required to produce all the war materials, goods, supplies and munitions in which to the fight the enemy. Thirdly;- because the Jews were regarded – rightly or wrongly – as potential “fifth columnists” and Allied or Communists supporters who might stab Germany in the back ( or willingly collaborate with enemy forces before or during any invasion of the European continent ) then it would be prudent to inter the Jews in camps where they could cause no threat to German military operations.

      It therefore became expedient to round up all the Jews in potential conflict zones ( ie;- Greece, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Belgium and the Netherlands, and transport them to concentration and labour camps where they could be securely held until the end of the war. Thus, by carrying out a policy of “Evacuations to the East” the Germans were able to establish three vital stepping stones in their endeavours to achieve the desired “Final Solution”.

      Comment by Talbot — December 8, 2016 @ 12:30 pm

    • You wrote: “Hitler wanted to exterminate them all, once and for all.”
      So why didn’t Hitler exterminate all the Jews? He had plenty of time to do it.
      BTW, are you related to Ms. Click?

      Comment by furtherglory — December 8, 2016 @ 1:28 pm

    • Κλέων Ι wrote:”OK, let’s say German Jews had to be rounded up and put in camps because Hitler wanted ‘the parasites’ out of his country.But what about the Jews from Greece, Yugoslavia, France or Hungary? Why did he order to round them up and sent to Germany, too?”

      Because Hitler had warned that European Jewry would suffer the same fate as German Jewry in the event of another world war against Germany. When Hitler said that, he was referring to the crushing of Jewish power and influence through anti-Semitic laws and propaganda, as well as to the planned complete territorial eviction of that community as soon as possible. According to Hitler’s opinion, no lasting peace could be reached in Europe as long as some Jews were able to agitate against Germany at will in any European country. Hence his proclaimed policy of Jewish eviction on a continental scale.

      Back to your question. Because some forced laborers were needed for the German war effort, and above all because European Jewries were being uprooted, gathered and held in Eastern camps and ghettos at that time, pending their final departure from the European continent.

      Comment by hermie — December 8, 2016 @ 8:58 pm

      • No, I don’t know any Ms Click and it’s the first time I hear this name. Can’t you check on IPs? I’m from Greece and my screen name leads to my blog. Go ahead and check it.

        Once again, your poor theories can’t be supported by the facts.
        All three (Talbot, Hermis and furtherglory) of you have the same fake ‘argument’

        «Because some forced laborers were needed for the German war effort, and above all because European Jewries were being uprooted, gathered and held in Eastern camps and ghettos at that time, pending their final departure from the European continent».

        If so, then why did the Nazis killed Jews in other countries so early, for example Estonia (‘Judenfrei’ at the end of 1941), the other Baltic countries, Ukraine and Serbia (‘Judenfrei’ in 1941, too) which on purpose I’ve included in my countries list (as Yugoslavia), just to see if you know what are you talking about.
        Hitler killed them on spot, long before he’d started losing the war and long before ‘forced laborers were needed for the German war effort’.

        Of course, there was a plan for the extermination of all the Jews, see also ‘group B’ countries in Eichmann’s list during the Wannsee Conference. Spain, Portugal, Turkey etc, why did the Nazis care?
        Peter Longerich’s book says it all.

        Your lies don’t add up with the truth. This what liars have to deal with all the time. You just want to cover-up the crimes.

        These are the 10 stages of a genocide. What you’re doing here is the 10th and last but necessary stage. You deny the genocide because you want to praise the genocide.

        Classification Symbolization Discrimination Dehumanization Organization Polarization Preparation Persecution Extermination Denial
        http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/tenstagesofgenocide.html

        If someone puts together all the deniers’ claims and their partial ‘versions’ of the facts, then the overall narrative is completely irrational and has no logic. But they don’t care about that. They focus on small parts of the evidence, just to produce doubts, no matter if they’re reasonable or not. They just want to use one of the many possible distortions of the truth for their own cover-up and denial purposes, and in order to achieve that, they do not hesitate to ashame themselves».

        You can observe denial at any single moment a denier is talking (or muddying the waters) about crimes of fascists.
        Along with his genocidal fascism, along with the practices of ethnic cleansing and the war crimes that the denier wants to praise, it’s always there:

        «10. DENIAL is the tenth stage that always follows a genocide. It is among the surest indicators of further genocidal massacres. The perpetrators of genocide dig up the mass graves, burn the bodies, try to cover up the evidence and intimidate the witnesses. They deny that they committed any crimes, and often blame what happened on the victims. They block investigations of the crimes, and continue to deny the facts. Not all of them, but partially anything that can use to produce a doubt in people’s minds. It’s the same tactic we know from the Srebrenica deniers»

        In fact, denial is part -and actually a very important part- of the crimes themselves. Denial is the crime of the wannabe perpetrator who blames himself because he missed the genocide. The denier regrets himself because he was born years after the genocide, so it wasn’t possible for him to do his part of the crimes and he wishes with all his heart for a second new genocide to fulfill his dream: Extermination in mass numbers of innocent people just because of their origin, race, religion or even name.

        And all these, just because you still live in the Middle Ages, still hating and blaming the Jews for everything from your failures.

        Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 1:21 am

        • You wrote: “you still live in the Middle Ages, still hating and blaming the Jews for everything from your failures.”

          I don’t have “failures.” I have been successful in life. I started being successful when I made a vow, never to do business with a Jew, ever again. Every single Jew, that I ever did business with, lied to me, cheated me, and/or stole from me. I recall, very vividly, the day that I vowed “Never again” to ever work with a Jew.

          Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 6:18 am

          • I am replying to my own comment, in order to tell you, that a friend of mine, who just read this, called me and said “That is correct. I remember that. You became successful after you vowed never to work with a Jew ever again.”

            Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 6:31 am

          • I didn’t mean personally you, of course, or any of your failures. How should I know things like that, since I don’t know a thing about you?
            I’m talking generally. Why people hate and blame the Jews for everything.
            Although, the last comment of yours could not stand for an argument. Your personal experience with one or two or ten Jews is not some absolute criterion to judge all Jews of the world. It’s just your case (although the way of your thinking, discrimination, racism and generalization, shows a lot about you and explains almost everything for your hatred).
            But I’m talking for the whole antisemitic pattern here.
            Let me make it clear:

            When bad things happen to a certain group of people, its members can react asking only one of these two questions: ‘What did we do wrong in the past?’ or ‘Who did this to us?’ The entire future of this group will depend on which question it chooses.

            If it asks, ‘What did we do wrong?’ it’s OK. The self-criticism, which is essential to its progress, has begun.
            If it asks, ‘Who did this to us?’ it defines itself as a victim. Then, they will seek the scapegoat to blame for all its trouble. Classically, Number 1 potential suspect it’s the Jews.

            Anti-Semitism is a form of cognitive failure, and it happens when people feel that their world is getting out of control.

            From the Middle Ages to David Duke, this is the case. And this is what happened to the 1930s Germany.

            Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 6:37 am

            • You wrote: “When bad things happen to a certain group of people, its members can react asking only one of these two questions: ‘What did we do wrong in the past?’ or ‘Who did this to us?’ The entire future of this group will depend on which question it chooses.”

              Very well written. In my humble opinion, I don’t believe that the Jews ever ask “What did we do wrong in the past?” No, the Jews ask “Who did this to us?” Followed by “How can we get REVENGE, REVENGE, REVENGE?”

              Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 7:11 am

              • Oh, no! This is fiction. This is wishful thinking. Go to all Jewish religious literature, go even to all antisemitic literature like Goebbels, Streicher, Robert Ley etc, and you’ll find only how pathetic and miserable are the Jews and stuck to their religious commands not to revenge. I’m sure you don’t know what REALLY ‘an eye for an eye’ means and why Jews made it a dogma. You don’t know what REALLY ‘the chosen people’ means. You have to study a lot. You got it all wrong.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 7:23 am

        • Κλέων Ι wrote;-

          “In fact, denial is part – and actually a very important part – of the crimes themselves. Denial is the crime of the wannabe perpetrator who blames himself because he missed the genocide. The denier regrets himself because he was born years after the genocide, so it wasn’t possible for him to do his part of the crimes and he wishes with all his heart for a second new genocide to fulfill his dream: Extermination in mass numbers of innocent people just because of their origin, race, religion or even name.

          Oh lor! – where on earth did you pick up this piece of cod-psychology from ? The reason why more and more people are questioning and doubting the holocaust, is not because they unfortunately missed out on the alleged event itself, but because there is no credible or verifiable evidence that any genocide against the Jews actually took place.

          It is claimed that up to 3 million Jews were killed in purpose-built homicidal gas chambers. But no one over the last 75 years has carried out any practical tests to ascertain if such facilities existed; or whether they could function in reality; or even whether they were viable as agents of systematic mass murder.

          In addition, it is claimed that the human remains of nearly two million of these gassed victims lie buried in the vicinity of Birkenau and Treblinka. But apart from a couple of pathetic – half-baked – searches carried out unscientifically at the latter site, no official archaeological investigations have ever taken place. So in the circumstances, it is perfectly reasonable for normal people to question the holocaust event.

          And the following interesting article appears on the Yad Vashem website:-

          ” Shlomo Cohen was born in Greece in 1920. He was deported to Auschwitz – Birkenau, and the British army liberated him from the concentration camp Bergen-Belsen. He immigrated to Israel [Palestine] in 1946. Shlomo tells part of his story:

          “… They told us that we could register – or return to Greece, or travel to Israel or to the United States. I signed up for two places: Greece and Israel, but I wanted to return to Greece and wait several months to see if anyone from my family survived …”

          “After the war ended in 1945 there were 2,000 Jews in Salonika out of some 10,000 Greek Jews who survived the Holocaust. The few survivors of this magnificent community, returned to Salonika in the hope of finding family members, relatives, and friends, who also survived. Most survivors did not find relatives who were still alive and the harsh realization began to set in that they were the few survivors from their families and communities. It was another step in mourning after the Holocaust. Some survivors were struggling to regain some of their family property and rebuild their lives in Salonika, but most chose to start their lives anew in Israel, the United States, Canada, Australia, or South America.”

          So, if what Mr Cohen says is correct, then it would appear that Jews who were liberated from the camps were given the option of either returning to their former homes, or be given a chance to begin new lives in other countries elsewhere in the world. In fact, Yad Vashem states that “MOST chose to start their lives anew in Israel, the United States, Canada, Australia, or South America”.

          Comment by Talbot — December 9, 2016 @ 6:19 am

          • Wwhat Mr Cohen says is indeed correct. I live in Salonica and I know a lot. From about 55.000 Jews in 1940, only less than 2.000 make it alive after the war (not all of them survived the camps, half of them through hiding or joining the partisans). But what’s your point with the Cohen story? Families were destroyed completely. Usually either one or zero survived from each family. Their homes and businesses were stolen, so they had nothing and they decided to start new lives wherever they find something, a relative or something. What’s your argument here?

            Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 6:47 am

            • No one is disputing that many families were split apart by the events of WW2 – be they Jewish or Gentile. Alas, so many families lost loved ones, as well their homes, during that terrible conflict ( including members of my own family living in Britain ).

              But my point about Shlomo Cohen is not that he personally survived, but he tell us that Jews liberated from the camps in Germany were given the option of either returning to their country of origin, or be given a chance to begin new lives elsewhere in the world. Yad Vashem confirms this, by saying that most of the surviving Greek Jews chose the latter option – and that is the principal reason why the numbers who returned to Greece after the war was so low.

              The Jewish survivors from Greece obviously decided that passage to the Americas, Australia or Palestine was a much better option than returning home, because they thought they would enjoy a more secure, fruitful, and prosperous life there.

              Comment by Talbot — December 9, 2016 @ 7:09 am

              • You wrote:
                – Greek Jews chose the latter option – and that is the principal reason why the numbers who returned to Greece after the war was so low.

                No, it’s not the case. There are a lot of studies in Greece and in Israel, city by city, and we know the numbers ‘before and after’ with a very detailed accuracy. No other community in Greece (and I guess in Britain and in many other places) was reduced by 90% as it happened with the Greek Jews. Can you imagine it? Only 10 out of a 100 people make it. In Salonica it was even smaller. Out of 55.000 only less than 2.000 survived, including those who chose to fly to other countries. There are lists and researches and special studies on these matters nowadays. The fact is, only these communities (plus Roma and Tziganes in Europe) were exterminated in such numbers.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 7:33 am

                • You wrote: “No other community in Greece (and I guess in Britain and in many other places) was reduced by 90% as it happened with the Greek Jews.”

                  I blogged about the Greek Jews on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/greek-jews/

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 7:44 am

                • FG wrote the following in the Blog about the Greek Jews;-

                  “According to Eberhard Kolb, a transport of 441 Jews from Salonika arrived in August 1943, including 367 “Spagnioles” or Sephardic Jews, who had been living in Greece for a long time, but were nevertheless Spanish nationals. This group was sent to Spain in early February 1944, and from there they were sent to an internment camp in North Africa, from which they were finally sent to Palestine. ”

                  But if the official holocaust narrative is correct, then these Sephardic Jews would never have been allowed to leave German-held territory, because we have been told time-and-time again – ad nauseam – that the Nazis wanted to exterminate every Jew they could get their hands on. But here, we have a situation where Jews are actually being facilitated by Nazi officialdom to leave by train and travel to a neutral country.

                  So how do the holocausters explain this extraordinary episode ?

                  Well…..they don’t!

                  Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 6:01 am

                • It’s very simple. It’s not a great mystery.
                  The Germans made certain agreements with countries like Spain, Italy and I think Portugal for their Jews.
                  Read a little History, you won’t get hurt.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 7:25 am

                • So, you are admitting that the Nazis did not want to exterminate all the Jews of Europe, but were quite prepared to allow those Jews who originated from other European nations – but were held under German jurisdiction – to return to their former countries.

                  Thank you.

                  Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 7:52 am

                • Oh, My God!
                  Is it so difficult to understand it?

                  The Germans didn’t want to break up their relationships with the neutral countries like Spain. The Spanish Jews weren’t *their* Jews to do whatever they wanted with. They were citizens of neutral or neutral *in favor* countries. They expected help or goods or other benefits for return.
                  Then, at the end of the war, the Germans were facing difficulties and they kept some Jews to exchange them with their POWs or with money and gold, even making deals overseas.

                  Perhaps you should read one or two books to find out. There are the discussions with Himmler and Goebbels about these matters.
                  Please, don’t waste my time with such simple things.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 8:29 am

            • The official holocaust account states that over 48,000 Jews were deported from Salonika in Greece to Auschwitz, in 19 transports, that took place between March and August 1943. It also claims that several thousand other Jews from Thrace and Macedonia were taken to Treblinka to be “exterminated”.

              Well, the distance from Salonika to Auschwitz is over 1,400 kilometres, and no one has adequately explained why the Germans would use valuable trains, in the middle of wartime, to convey tens of thousands of people to a place where the bulk of them were going to be immediately put to death!

              If such a project of mass extermination was underway, then would it not make more practical sense to select only those who you want for forced labour in Poland, in Salonika itself, and only transport these people to Auschwitz. All the others – the overwhelming majority – could then be marched to the large port of Salonika, and loaded on to a pair of obsolete vessels rusting away in the harbour; towed out into the Aegean Sea, and scuttled out of sight of land. The Nazis could then issue a public statement saying the vessels were deporting Jews through the Black Sea to Russian ports, but alas they were sunk by enemy submarines.

              And the distance from Salonika to Treblinka is even further than Auschwitz – 1,800 kilometres. And we are told, that at Treblinka – unlike Auschwitz – everyone was exterminated immediately upon arrival. So why would the Nazis convey these thousands of Greek Jews over such a huge distance? Was it simply for Abraham Bomba and his diligent team of barbers to cut off the hair of the Jewish females inside the gas chamber so that it could be saved for the Nazi war effort !

              Comment by Talbot — December 9, 2016 @ 7:48 am

              • You wrote: “…Abraham Bomba and his diligent team of barbers to cut off the hair of the Jewish females inside the gas chamber”

                I blogged about Abraham Bomba at

                https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/abraham-bomba-one-of-the-barbers-at-treblinka/

                Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 8:12 am

              • Exactly – rather than transport them 1400 miles, just do what the CHEKA (Soviet Secret Police) did – going town to town and execute as they went – the cleanup was the town’s problem or the next town’s problem. The Germans are supposed to be ultra-efficient, would certainly NOT have expended valuable resources (during a 2-front war) on the declared vermin. The logical position would have been (and they did) set them aside, put them to work (jewish 4-letter word) and deal with them after the war when there was more time for resettlement (also a synonym for jews for extermination). The whole hoax narrative falls apart when you understand the National Socialist mindset – AND THEY DON’T. Kinda hard to believe I guess that SOOO many people despised the jews and rightly so. As I said 109 countries over 1000 years couldn’t be wrong.

                Comment by Diane King — December 9, 2016 @ 10:44 am

              • In fact, these are very serious questions. But it isn’t easy to answer them in a blog forum because each case in each country (even multiple cases in each country, as in Greece) is a different one, and one researcher has to look into lots of reasons and characteristics of the cases to put them all in line, in order to see the greater picture and to explain the dynamics of each decision. I should suggest a very essential reading, Peter Longerich’s book ‘The Unwritten Order: Hitler’s Role in the Final Solution’. Longerich was on of the experts who testified in the Irving trial. He wrote two reports for the court, along with other experts for other subjects, architectural, scientific, law etc You can read there all the details for the ups and downs of the Final Solution and all the separate decisions, why some communities were killed in spot while other had to be transported first.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 10:45 am

                • Its all very well asking us to purchase an expensive book by someone called Peter Longerich, and ploughing through its contents. One assumes that you have read it yourself, so couldn’t you give us a brief summary of how he explains why the Jews from Greece were deported all the way to Auschwitz and Treblinka to be killed, while other Jews were allegedly murdered where they resided.

                  I note that Mr Longerich’s book is entitled “The Unwritten Order: Hitler’s Role in the Final Solution”. This obviously means that Hitler gave a verbal directive – or some kind of hand signal, or telepathic communication – to his subordinates instead. So can you tell us on what date he passed on this order, and to whom, and where exactly, was it given ?

                  Comment by Talbot — December 9, 2016 @ 11:59 am

                • You wrote: “Its all very well asking us to purchase an expensive book by someone called Peter Longerich, and ploughing through its contents.”

                  I wrote about Peter Longerich on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/01/02/let-himmler-speak-stop-cutting-him-off-in-mid-sentence/

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 2:24 pm

              • The website – http://www.academia.edu/1826205/The_History_of_the_Jews_of_Thessaloniki_and_the_Holocaust – publishes an official list showing the 19 transports that left Salonika in Greece for Auschwitz in 1943.

                But when one reads through the list, it becomes clear that the Kremas at Birkenau could not have dealt with the numbers that were arriving from Greece.

                For example, on the following dates there were transports (or convoys) arriving at Birkenau with the stated number of people on board ;-

                17 April 1943 (9th convoy) 3,000 Jews
                18 April 1943 (10th ” ) 2,501 Jews

                Inside Birkenau at this time there were alleged to be just 3 crematoriums in operation ( Kremas II, IV, and V – because Krema III wasn’t built until June 25th of that year ). This means that only 31 furnace retorts were available for cremation of the bodies.

                Now the holocausters claim that about 85% of the arrivals at Birkenau were sent straight to the gas chambers, and only 10 or 15% entered the camp and were duly registered. So, if a total of 5,501 people arrived on the 17th and 18th of April, then just 15% of them (or 825) were selected for work. This means that 4,676 were doomed to the “gas chambers”.

                Well, let us assume all 31 furnace retorts were operational, and each body could be fully cremated in three quarters of an hour (which is extremely doubtful – but still…), then a total of 64 bodies could be consumed in each retort during the 48 hour period.

                This means that (64 x 31) = 1,984 cremated bodies.

                But, oh dear, the poor, rushed-off-their-feet, sondercommandos were still left after two days of frenetic activity with 2,692 bodies remaining to be cremated.

                I think the holocausters are telling us porky-pies about these exterminations !

                Comment by Talbot — December 9, 2016 @ 4:31 pm

                • Mr Talbot, here’s your answer:

                  – How do we know that the holes in the roofs of the gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau, through which the Zyklon-B was poured, existed?
                  The holes in the roofs of the gas chambers in the Auschwitz-Birkenau, through which the Zyklon-B was poured, did exist. Perpetrator and survivor eyewitness testimony as well as contemporary images taken in 1944 by the Allies and by the Germans themselves show the chimneys over the holes in the roofs of Cremas/Gas Chambers 2 and 3 in Birkenau. Finally, a rigorous and authorized forensic study conducted in 2000 on the roofs of Crema/Gas Chamber 1 in the Main Camp and Crema/Gas Chamber 2 in Birkenau have located and proved beyond doubt that these holes existed. The Holocaust deniers’ claim of “No Holes, No Holocaust” does not stand up to scrutiny.
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab8-holes-roofs/

                  – How do we know that the wire-mesh introduction columns used to pour the Zyklon-B into the gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau existed?
                  The wire-mesh introduction columns cannot be found today because they were dismantled and discarded before the cremas/gas chamber buildings were blown up by the Germans in their attempt to erase the evidence of their genocidal crimes. However, the existence and function of the wire-mesh introduction columns used to introduce the Zyklon-B into the gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau is corroborated by multiple survivor and perpetrator eyewitness accounts as well as by a surviving German document that lists them in an inventory.
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab9-wire-mesh-columns/

                  – How do we know that the gas chamber in Auschwitz I (the Main Camp) is authentic and not a fake created for tourists?
                  There is physical evidence that Crema 1 was used as a gas chamber.
                  A rigorously conducted and authorized forensic study of the gas chambers done in 2000 found physical and photographic evidence of five holes that had been in the roof of Crema/Gas Chamber 1 and had since been sealed up. In the restoration four of the holes were re-opened and capped with wooden chimneys as they had been when Crema 1 was a gas chamber. Adam Zlobnicki recalled the restoration of the holes in the roof: “Those who reconstructed them had an easy task because the erstwhile introduction holes had distinct traces . . . Thus, they constructed in the same places again the openings for the little chimneys.” The fifth hole was not reopened
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab10-gas-chamber-fake/

                  – How do we know what the capacities of the cremation ovens at Auschwitz-Birkenau were?
                  There is an authentic German document about the capacity of the crematoria ovens at Auschwitz-Birkenau: the Bischoff letter (June 28, 1943). The letter details the Germans’ own calculations that the cremation ovens had the ability to burn as at least 4,756 bodies in a 24-hour period.
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab3-german-documents-ovens/

                  – How we know that some 900,000 Jews were murdered in the gas chambers without their number being listed in German records?
                  The Holocaust deniers’ assertion that the Death Books reflect the total number of deaths in Auschwitz-Birkenau is false. The Death Books do not reflect the nearly 900,000 Jews who were murdered upon arrival at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Sometimes these people were not even properly counted, much less registered or phony death certificates created. Only those people who were inducted into the slave labor pool (including some 230,000 Jews) were given numbers and only these prisoners were listed in the death certificates in the Death Books.
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab2-death-books/

                  – How do we know that open-air burning pits for cremating the bodies of the Jews were used in Auschwitz-Birkenau?
                  There is German perpetrator and survivor eyewitness testimony about the existence of burning pits at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Further, aerial and ground photographs document the use of the burning pits beyond any doubt.
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab6-open-air-burning/

                  – How do we know that the cremas/gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau were not air raid shelters for the German guards?
                  Holocaust deniers claim:
                  The cremas/gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau were air-raid shelters. They were equipped with gas-tight doors to protect the people sheltering inside from poison gas.
                  The facts are:
                  Only Crema/Gas Chamber 1 in the Main Camp (Auschwitz I), which was used as a gas chamber for part of 1942, was modified in November 1944 to become an air-raid shelter. There is “not a shred of evidence” that the cremas/gas chambers in the Birkenau camp were ever used as air-raid shelters as they were too far away or completely unsuitable. Instead, smaller shelters were installed all around the perimeter of Birkenau. The issue of the gas-tight doors is a red herring because they were all ordered 22 months before the issue of air-raid shelters ever arose in Auschwitz-Birkenau.
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab11-air-raid-shelters/

                  – How do we know the eyewitnesses to the use of gas vans to murder Jews in Chelmno and the East are reliable?
                  Holocaust deniers claim:
                  The eyewitness testimony about the use of gas vans in the death camp of Chelmno and by the Einsatzgruppen units in the East is a “wild conglomeration of conflicting claims” that is of “no evidentiary value.” Therefore, the gas vans never existed.[1]
                  The facts are:
                  There was a large body of eyewitnesses to the design, construction and use of the gas vans include the drivers of the gas vans, the heads of the Einsatzgruppen units that employed the gas vans, survivors of their use in the East and at the Chelmno death camp, and bystanders. While, as is always the case with eyewitnesses, there are slight variations in their testimony all agree in the major points. Further, their testimony is corroborated by primary German documents.
                  The perpetrator, survivor and bystander eyewitness testimony corroborates each other on all major points. The gas vans existed and were used to murder Jews and others in the death camp at Chelmno and in the East.
                  https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/gv4-witnesses/

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 2:24 am

          • You said:
            – The reason why more and more people are questioning and doubting the holocaust, is not because they unfortunately missed out on the alleged event itself, but because there is no credible or verifiable evidence that any genocide against the Jews actually took place.

            No, it’s not that, and I’ll prove it. This is only secondary.

            Why don’t you show the same efforts and zeal for other genocides like the Armenians, or Pol Pot’s in Cambodia, or in Srebrenica or in Rwanda?
            Why you don’t study these genocides with the same passion?
            In fact, it’s possible you don’t know a single thing about these other genocides.
            Because you don’t hate those victims.
            You hate only the Jews, it’s simple.

            It’s because you want to vindicate the Nazis and Hitler for the slaughter of the Jews who you don’t like and hate and think they deserve to die in an Holocaust which was never existed, of course, because Hitler never initiated it, irrelevant if Hitler initiated the war against the Jews because ‘Judea declares war to Germany’.
            This is as paranoid as it can get but this is actually your statements, not mine.

            All antisemites must be very miserable persons.
            Knowing that you’re almost alone in this world in this bizarre and silly questioning of bricks and gas and human remains and tattoos’ shapes and ink quantity in survivors’ arms.

            Fortunately, all decent people in this universe care WHY other people tattooed and rounded up and put in gas chambers 70 years ago, only because it happened for them to be born in a race or religion that only by chance you weren’t born the same. They care about the classification, the dehumanization and the extermination that were associated with these tattoos. Your family is just lucky enough not to be born in a Jewish community. If so, you wouldn’t have been today to deny the slaughter of the innocent.

            And there are a very few miserable pathetic people like you, who are dealing with these nonsense details of bricks and Zyklon-B, in fact denying all these well-documented and proven facts because they want to see them happen again. As one writer said once, ‘The Holocaust never happened, but it was awesome!’

            I’m leaving you in your loneliness. You and your co-nazis are disappearing along with your nasty ‘ideas’. The world conscience goes to a direction where killing someone because of his origin and his random birth as of this or that race and religion will not be acceptable.

            You can dive in your misery. You’re the past and not even a 1% of this world likes you.

            Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 7:16 am

            • You wrote [in answer to a comment made by Talbot]:
              Begin quote
              Why don’t you show the same efforts and zeal for other genocides like the Armenians, or Pol Pot’s in Cambodia, or in Srebrenica or in Rwanda?
              Why you don’t study these genocides with the same passion?
              In fact, it’s possible you don’t know a single thing about these other genocides.
              Because you don’t hate those victims.
              You hate only the Jews, it’s simple.
              End quote

              I wrote about other genocides in this blog post:
              https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/rwanda/

              Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 7:31 am

              • Thank you, I’ll check it.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 7:34 am

                • The victims of polpot, and the other genocides aren’t being forced down our throats nor are we jailed, fined, prosecuted for talking about THOSE – AND additionally, THEY ACTUALLY HAPPENED. Unlike this bogus extortion racket aka, the holohoax!

                  Comment by Diane King — December 9, 2016 @ 10:46 am

                • So, you’re coming to my words. It is the hate for the Jews that drives you to deny the Holocaust and not the other way around. It’s simple and I’ve said it for the very beginning (although you’re wrong in general because in many countries you can be jailed, fined, prosecuted if you deny certain genocides, you should know that).

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 10:53 am

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “It is the hate for the Jews that drives you to deny the Holocaust and not the other way around.”

                  Following this reasoning, no Jew or Jew-loving guy or pro-Zionist historian should be allowed to speak or write a single word about the ‘Holocaust’ because he/she is necessarily biased on that topic. But I guess the bias thing doesn’t apply in that direction. I suppose that for you there are good biases (not invalidating the conclusions of some researchers) and bad biases (invalidating immediately and automatically the conclusions of other researchers). Anti-Semitism leads to erroneous conclusions while philo-Semitism leads to impartial & valid conclusions, is this your opinion???

                  Comment by hermie — December 10, 2016 @ 7:22 am

                • History is a science with very strictly rules, and has nothing to do with one’s feelings or opinions for the Jews. A good historian can reconstruct the facts for a given period of time, based on proof and evidence, and beyond any opinions or ideological standing.
                  Real historians had told the WWII facts. You (and people like you who omit everything it doesn’t fit your theories) are talking fiction and wishful thinking.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 12:29 pm

                • Klingon…nice try again! It’s actually you HoloHoaxers that mold history to the story you want to push.
                  I’m still waiting for your scientific explanations on how the so called homicidal gas chambers worked…..Of all the HoloHuxsters I’ve asked NONE have explained it completely to me….they just say in essence The Holocaust happened because it happened? LOL Thats comforting to know!
                  Please show me with details how the ZB worked in a room not designed for exterminating anything.
                  No fans, no heaters, no nothing, no holes in the roof even.
                  When someone can put it all together with facts pictures diagrams, etc…and not should, of could of, would of, nonsense then I will be a true believer….until now your just farting into the wind. Maybe thats the gas that you are talking about.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 12:38 pm

                • OK, have you read Robert Jan van Pelt (Professor of Architecture in the School of Architecture, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Canada) 770-pages report?
                  If you’ll do so, you’ll see that the Leuchter’s report is a piece of trash, only for making people laugh.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 12:24 am

                • Van pelt’s work is actually a bunch of trash….

                  Long….but good
                  Inside the Gas Chambers Conclusion
                  17. Conclusion
                  The anthology Neue Studien zu nationalsozialistischen Massentötungen
                  durch Giftgas claims to refute revisionism. In doing so, it repeats the orthodox Holocaust dogmas about the Holocaust as handed down by their
                  predecessors and at once attempts to reinforce these dogmas by claiming to
                  refute revisionism. Both aspects are present in some of the articles, where-
                  as towards its end the book specifically aims at confronting revisionism.
                  Let us first consider the second aspect, i.e. the evidence that the authors
                  of the book present to support the officially sanctioned version of history.
                  In spite of the fact that in a number of cases they were able to use sources
                  which were made available only recently, they have not succeeded in presenting a scientifically sound demonstration of their theses. Instead of such
                  a demonstration, they offer the credo of a new and dogmatic historiography
                  which no longer has to be proved because, according to the unfathomable
                  mysteries of this creed, everything has already been shown to be true. Questions which are absolutely fundamental remain unanswered, for ex-
                  ample the manner in which the alleged gas chambers using engine exhaust
                  gases or Zyklon B evolved from the alleged carbon monoxide chambers in
                  the euthanasia centers, or the genesis and the evolution of the “gas vans” of
                  the first and the second generation. Instead, the authors arbitrarily link fic-
                  titious events created by the congress participants, which are based exclu-
                  sively on contradictory witness statements that have been cleaned of their
                  most blatant absurdities.
                  Another fundamental problem which the participants of the Oranienburg meeting have not even touched upon is the mythical “Führer order” to
                  eradicate the Jews. The existence of such an order is tacitly – or shall we
                  say, dogmatically – assumed. The gas chambers, whose existence remains
                  to be demonstrated, are said to have been used in order to carry out an industrialized genocide, but nobody can say who ordered it at what time and
                  for what reason.
                  Just as unexplored is a third question of equal importance: the choice of
                  the various killing methods allegedly employed when implementing such a
                  policy. In the euthanasia centers, carbon monoxide in steel cylinders is
                  claimed to have been used; in some of the “Aktion Reinhardt” camps it was
                  exhaust gas from gasoline and/or diesel engines; in Auschwitz and a few
                  other camps it was Zyklon B, as against gas vans in Chełmno, in Serbia
                  and behind the Russian front; and a hodge-podge of means is claimed for
                  Majdanek. In spite of all the frantic efforts of the authors of the anthology
                  to come up with a virtual relationship between all these widely diverging
                  killing methods, recurring to the German Institute of Forensic Investigation
                  as a kind of deus ex machina, or by conjuring up a fictitious meeting of
                  concentration camp commanders at Sachsenhausen, the critical reader ends
                  up having the impression that the implementation of the alleged genocide
                  had been left to the discretion of the local SS staff who, though acting
                  without overall coordination, were still linked by means of three different
                  chains of command, which were all independent of one another.
                  These orthodox historians attempt to demonstrate a horrifying mass
                  murder carried out in chemical slaughterhouses in spite of the total lack of
                  documentary proof and, for many camps, even the lack of any circumstan-
                  tial evidence. This clearly demonstrates both their credulity and ideological
                  blindness as well as their resounding disregard for elementary scientific
                  principles. Exemplary in this regard is the way in which they rely exclusively on witness statements which they have selected and cleaned of the
                  most nonsensical passages.
                  Even those chapters which at least merit discussion are superficially and
                  hastily written; sources are often not indicated, with many cross-references
                  among the author, leading to a sterile vicious circle.
                  I have summarized the situation regarding the source material for the
                  existence of the alleged homicidal gas chambers and “gas van” in Table 8.
                  If we are to believe Achim Trunk, the mythical gas vans caused no few-
                  er than 500,000 victims altogether, 250,000 in the Soviet Union, 152,477 at
                  Chełmno, and consequently 97,500 at all the other sites where they were
                  reportedly used. However, not a single such vehicle has ever been found or
                  photographed. I have already expressed myself clearly on the subject of the
                  sparse documents relating to this matter.
                  Between 1,385,000 and 1,785,000 persons are reported to have perished
                  in the alleged gas chambers of “Aktion Reinhardt,” without any documen-
                  tary or material evidence for such a claim. These are the fragile foundation
                  of the Holocaust religion! The same is true for the alleged gas chambers at
                  Ravensbrück and Neuengamme.
                  At Majdanek and Stutthof, buildings which obviously were delousing
                  chambers are presented as homicidal gas chambers, even though any evi-
                  dence to support such assertions is lacking. The same goes for the corre-
                  sponding localities at Mauthausen and Sachsenhausen.
                  In the case of Auschwitz, the situation is rather complex and somewhat
                  different. I will therefore discuss it separately below. Here, too, there is a
                  complete absence of documentary evidence for the existence of homicidal
                  gas chambers, though, but at least we have more than a dozen alleged
                  “criminal traces” (an expression coined by J.-C. Pressac), although if in-
                  vestigated in their context, they have no probative value either.
                  Again, in the case of Auschwitz the orthodox Holocaust historians are
                  unable to tell us who ordered the construction of these gas chambers, at
                  what point in time and under what circumstances. Table 9 summarizes the
                  data regarding the alleged murders with Zyklon B at the Auschwitz main
                  camp and the two “Bunkers” of Birkenau.
                  For the Birkenau crematoria II to V there are alleged “criminal traces,”
                  but their number reflects in no way the alleged duration of the operation or
                  the number of victims who allegedly perished in the gas chambers installed
                  there. (We must remember that van Pelt affirms that at least 550,000 per-
                  sons were gassed in the crematoria II and III alone, p. 216). Each one out
                  of the 15 so-called “criminal traces” can be explained in a completely innocuous way. All of them concern only the period of planning and erection
                  of these crematoria. Not a single one of these “traces” dates from the time
                  these facilities were in operation (whatever operation this might have
                  been). Moreover, van Pelt’s contribution is of an even poorer quality than
                  the others and has little more to offer than unproven apodictic assertions
                  and fanciful hypotheses.
                  Still, the last part of the anthology is its absolute nadir. It is pompously
                  titled “The “gas chamber lie” in international revisionist propaganda”
                  (“Die ‘Gaskammer-Lüge’ in der internationalen revisionistischen Propa-
                  ganda”), and its objective is to refute revisionism. Yet the authors have not
                  a single argument to offer. One cannot but feel that it was written to fulfill
                  an unpleasant duty – after all, one of the stated aims of the Oranienburg
                  meeting was the refutation of revisionism, even though not a single one of
                  the participants was in a position to do so, and if only in a rudimentary
                  way. The editors may have felt the need to publish these latter contributions in an attempt to make the book more voluminous and thus give it a
                  more impressive appearance. The same goes for those articles which are so
                  devoid of significance or that are unrelated to the meeting’s topic that I
                  have felt no urge to discuss them.
                  When compared to the preceding work, Nazi mass Murder, the present
                  volume offers hardly any new ideas. Although many of the “at least 60 per-
                  tinent articles and monographs […] published since 1983” have been con-
                  sidered (p. XVII), the quality has in no way been improved, because the
                  sources are mentioned haphazardly in footnotes and merely serve to hide
                  the lack of watertight documentary or material evidence.
                  On balance, the results of the Oranienburg meeting are devastating for
                  orthodox Holocaust historiography. The meeting has not succeeded in presenting a documented and coherent analysis of the genesis of the alleged
                  industrial homicidal gas chambers and has failed spectacularly in its at-
                  tempt to refute revisionism. This kind of pseudo-scientific historiography
                  can only survive thanks to propaganda and government repression.
                  * * *
                  In conclusion I wish to point out the most important revisionist studies
                  that have been published over the last two decades and which deal with
                  various aspects of the “National Socialist mass killings by poison gas.” The
                  better part of these studies is available in two or more languages. To the ex-
                  tent that they exist in German or English, I shall merely refer to them and
                  omit any other language editions.
                  If the participants of the Oranienburg meeting had sincerely wished to
                  fulfill their duty as historians, they would have had to take these studies in-
                  to account and refute them, but, except for one or two instances, they have
                  not even mentioned them.

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 11, 2016 @ 7:19 am

                • Hahahaha, this stupid denier writes:

                  – «the critical reader ends up having the impression that the implementation of the alleged genocide had been left to the discretion of the local SS staff who, though acting without overall coordination, were still linked by means of three different chains of command, which were all independent of one another».

                  Of course this is the case with the Holocaust, and if you and this useless junk ‘researcher’ weren’t totally literally illiterate, ignorant, benighted, uncultivated, uninformed, uneducated and witless to all these subjects, both of you you should know that:

                  It’s called ‘Auftragstaktik‘ and it’s the basic German command philosophy.

                  But you’re ignorant, since you’re unable to put together such simple things, so I don’t have so much expectations of you and your junk ‘researcher’.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 8:16 am

                • So I guess I’m a bad researcher but you’re a complete idiot for believing six million Jews died in fake gas chambers with bug spray.
                  Interesting you still haven’t taken up my challenge to show me how one of these fake homicidal gas chambers actually worked. I wonder why that is.
                  I told you if you can prove to me that you can make one of these things work I will be a True Believer but apparently you can’t do any hocus-pocus here and that’s why you don’t respond.
                  It’s pretty simple Kream1 Auschwitz 1 show me how it worked that so-called homicidal gas chamber with zyklon B being put ithrown into 4 holes in the roof that weren’t there before the war and that several eyewitnesses claim there was 1,2,3,….6 whatever holes it really doesn’t matter they never work to do the job anyway.
                  Come on Klingon get off your ass and give me an answer.
                  You’re just a typical Holohuckster who comes here spouting all these lies that you have no proof to prove anything you say and you make us look like the bad guys when you are the one that has no proof of anything. But that is to be expected that is how the Holohuxsters work all talk no action and then you want us to prove it didn’t happen interesting… how do you prove something that didn’t happen didn’t happen. Oh I know because it didn’t happen!
                  And how do you prove it did happen oh that’s easy you have a collection of Dreams and Nightmares From the Jews who survived the camps that later gave these far out testimonies that didn’t make any sense but you thought sounds good to me.
                  This stuff would make good fiction and it sure has done so we have the movie Schindler’s List and all the other movies that have come down the pike that are so ridiculous you have to be an idiot to believe these things happened of course there is no fact-checking that goes along with making movies or writing books but that’s okay that’s how you Holohucksters like it. The Holohuxster motto is don’t confuse us with the facts.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 11, 2016 @ 9:31 am

                • You wrote: “I told you [ Κλέων Ι].. if you can prove to me that you can make one of these things work I will be a True Believer but apparently you can’t do any hocus-pocus here and that’s why you don’t respond.”

                  I have a section on my website, in which I have explained how the Auschwitz I gas chamber worked.
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz08.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 11, 2016 @ 9:53 am

                • This is for a new Holohuckster Klingon but he probably won’t read it because he has all the answers.
                  This is from someone who wasn’t sleeping on the job.

                  AUSCHWITZ: AN EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNT
                  Some new facts about Auschwitz are at last beginning to make a tentative appearance. They are contained in a recent work called Die Auschwitz-Lüge: Ein Erlebnisbericht von Theis Christopherson (The Auschwitz Legends: An Account of his Experiences by Thies Christopherson, Kritik Verlag/Mohrkirch, 1973). Published by the German lawyer Dr. Manfred Roeder in the periodical Deutsche Bürger-Iniative, it is an eye-witness account of Auschwitz by Thies Christopherson, who was sent to the Bunawerk plant laboratories at Auschwitz to research into the production of synthetic rubber for the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute. In May 1973, not long after the appearance of this account, the veteran Jewish “Nazi-hunter” Simon Wiesenthal wrote to the Frankfurt Chamber of Lawyers, demanding that the publisher and author of the Forward, Dr. Roeder, a member of the Chamber, should be brought before its disciplinary commission. Sure enough, proceedings began in July, but not without harsh criticism even from the Press, who asked “Is Simon Wiesenthal the new Gauleiter of Germany?” (Deutsche Wochenzeitung, July 27th, 1973). Christopherson’s account is certainly one of the most important documents for a re-appraisal of Auschwitz. He spent the whole of 1944 there, during which time he visited all of the separate camps comprising the large Auschwitz complex, including Auschwitz-Birkenau where it is alleged that wholesale massacres of Jews took place. Christopherson, however, is in no doubt that this is totally untrue. He writes: “I was in Auschwitz from January 1944 until December 1944. After the war I heard about the mass murders which were supposedly perpetrated by the S.S. against the Jewish prisoners, and I was perfectly astonished. Despite all the evidence of witnesses, all the newspaper reports and radio broadcasts I still do not believe today in these horrible deeds. I have said this many times and in many places, but to no purpose. One is never believed” (p. 16). Space forbids a detailed summary here of the author’s experiences at Auschwitz, which include facts about camp routine and the daily life of prisoners totally at variance with the allegations of propaganda (pp. 22-7). More important are his revelations about the supposed existence of an extermination camp. “During the whole of my time at Auschwitz, l never observed the slightest evidence of mass gassings. Moreover, the odour of burning flesh that is often said to have hung over the camp is a downright falsehood. In the vicinity of the main camp (Auschwitz I) was a large farrier’s works, from which the smell of molten iron was naturally not pleasant” (p. 33-4). Reitlinger confirms that there were five blast furnaces and five collieries at Auschwitz, which together with the Bunawerk factories comprised Auschwitz III (ibid. p. 452). The author agrees that a crematorium would certainly have existed at Auschwitz, “since 200,000 people lived there, and in every city with 200,000 inhabitants there would be a crematorium. Naturally people died there — but not only prisoners. In fact the wife of Obersturmbannführer A. (Christopherson’s superior) also died there” (p. 33). The author explains: “There were no secrets at Auschwitz. In September 1944 a commission of the International Red Cross came to the camp for an inspection. They were particularly interested in the camp at Birkenau, though we also had many inspections at Raisko” (Bunawerk section, p. 35). Christopherson points out that the constant visits to Auschwitz by outsiders cannot be reconciled with allegations of mass extermination. When describing the visit of his wife to the camp in May, he observes: “The fact that it was possible to receive visits from our relatives at any time demonstrates the openness of the camp administration. Had Auschwitz been a great extermination camp, we would certainly not have been able to receive such visits” (p. 27). After the war, Christopherson came to hear of the alleged existence of a building with gigantic chimneys in the vicinity of the main camp. “This was supposed to be the crematorium. However, I must record the fact that when I left the camp at Auschwitz in December 1944, I had not seen this building there” (p. 37). Does this mysterious building exist today? Apparently not; Reitlinger claims it was demolished and “completely burnt out in full view of the camp” in October, though Christopherson never saw this public demolition. Although it is said to have taken place “in full view of the camp”, it was allegedly seen by only one Jewish witness, a certain Dr. Bendel, and his is the only testimony to the occurrence (Reitlinger, ibid, p. 457). This situation is generally typical. When it comes down to hard evidence, it is strangely elusive; the building was “demolished”, the document is “lost”, the order was “verbal”. At Auschwitz today, visitors are shown a small furnace and here they are told that millions of people were exterminated. The Soviet State Commission which “investigated” the camp announced on May 12th, 1945, that “Using rectified coefficients . . . the technical expert commission has ascertained that during the time that the Auschwitz camp existed, the German butchers exterminated in this camp not less than four million citizens …” Reitlinger’s surprisingly frank comment on this is perfectly adequate: “The world has grown mistrustful of ‘rectified coefficients’ and the figure of four millions has become ridiculous” (ibid, p. 460). Finally, the account of Mr. Christopherson draws attention to a very curious circumstance. The only defendant who did not appear at the Frankfurt Auschwitz Trial in 1963 was Richard Baer, the successor of Rudolf Höss as commandant of Auschwitz. Though in perfect health, he died suddenly in prison before the trial had begun, “in a highly mysterious way” according to the newspaper; Deutsche Wochenzeitung (July 27th, 1973). Baer’s sudden demise before giving evidence is especially strange, since the Paris newspaper Rivarol recorded his insistence that “during the whole time in which he governed Auschwitz, he never saw any gas chambers nor believed that such things existed,” and from this statement nothing would dissuade him. In short, the Christopherson account adds to a mounting collection of evidence demonstrating that the giant industrial complex of Auschwitz (comprising thirty separate installations and divided by the main Vienna-Cracow railway line) was nothing but a vast war production centre, which, while admittedly employing the compulsory labour of detainees, was certainly not a place of “mass extermination”.

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 11, 2016 @ 10:48 am

                • Not even a serious person ever said what you’re repeating over and over again, that ‘in WWII 6.000.000 Jews died by spraying’.
                  This is the deniers’ narrative.

                  Real historians say ‘in WWII 6.000.000 Jews died’, period.

                  The rest is deniers’ useless blah-blah-blah and Michael Shermer had written a lot about your denial.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 10:23 am

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “History is a science with very strictly rules, and has nothing to do with one’s feelings or opinions for the Jews. A good historian can reconstruct the facts for a given period of time, based on proof and evidence, and beyond any opinions or ideological standing. Real historians had told the WWII facts. You (and people like you who omit everything it doesn’t fit your theories) are talking fiction and wishful thinking.”

                  Come on, Clown. Would ‘real historians’ have come with their fictional Sonderaktion 1005 and alleged genocidal code words & euphemisms in Nazi documents if they really had physical and documentary evidence of their allegations or even of a significant fraction of their allegations???

                  It seems that you and yours are those who can’t go beyond their own biased opinions and ideological standing after all…

                  Comment by hermie — December 12, 2016 @ 6:16 am

                • For real historians, this one works fine:

                  http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/content/5/2/157.abstract

                  And this one:

                  http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/3/468.full.pdf

                  These are signed by the word ‘Oxford’. Your claims and Carlo Mattogno’s theories fit only in fringe internet corners.
                  People can decide.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 6:56 am

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “For real historians, this one works fine: http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/content/5/2/157.abstract

                  You’re of course free to call storytellers building up horror tales on testimonial ‘evidence’ (such as any good bigfoot hunter or investigator on alien abductions) “real historians” if you wish. But I’m also free to laugh at their extravagant stories, farcical ‘evidence’ and ludicrous methodology…

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “And this one: http://hgs.oxfordjournals.org/content/15/3/468.full.pdf

                  You’re free to read the word ‘evacuation’ as mass murder too. It’s just a business between yourself and your groundless faith.

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “These are signed by the word ‘Oxford’. Your claims and Carlo Mattogno’s theories fit only in fringe internet corners. People can decide.”

                  Is there any difference between academic and leashed? What academic/mainstream scientists living under the strong influence of the Vatican in the 16th and 17th centuries, were able and allowed to crush the geocentric hoax openly without ruining their careers? None. Very telling…

                  Comment by hermie — December 12, 2016 @ 7:19 am

                • Oh, it’s the Jews threat, of course. They ruin careers if you don’t agree with them, or they put you in jail. The difference is that today any ordinary citizen can reach the truth by his own and still deniers’ theories are on the fringe. And they will always be. Even in the most free public space, which is academia. You have to learn to live with that. But you can’t.
                  Once you got stuck in all these conspiracy theories, you ‘d stopped thinking clearly and you got paranoid, searching more and more for everything that can confirm your insane thoughts.
                  You ‘ve lived all your life in all these crazy ideas from the well-known forgery of the Protocols of Elder of Zion, Jews want to take over the world, Jews are behind everything, Jews make plots all day and all night to exterminate all the others and all this crap.
                  You seek, day in, day out, more and more reasons to hate the Jews.
                  After, the years of Enlightenment, one should hope to see this hate would go away.
                  But the Middle-Ages are still around us.
                  You’re the proof.
                  Not the historians I’ve mentioned.
                  You are in the fringe. They are not.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 1:06 pm

                • Klingon….

                  Really now! “you ‘ve lived all your life in all these crazy ideas from the well-known forgery of the Protocols of Elder of Zion, Jews want to take over the world, Jews are behind everything, Jews make plots all day and all night to exterminate all the others and all this crap.”

                  If the protocols are a forgery then that would mean there is an original copy somewhere right?
                  If it’s original than that must be the real Mcoy…So it must be telling the truth.
                  You do know if something is a forgery it was made to look like the original….LOL
                  Maybe you Greek translation isn’t up to par with us English language speakers. Forgery of original get it….
                  You wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the original or the forged one right?
                  Seem to me they both say the same thing….

                  Yes, the Jews are behind everything…Why do you think they come after the revisionist like they do?
                  Are we that threatening to them….I would think so.
                  Do you know of any other group the Jews come after so vehemently? Please name on.
                  Do you know any other laws to make it an arrestable or fineable offense written against any other group than revisionist?
                  So I guess you answered you own question..LOL

                  Oh, by the way still waiting for you to show me a real live workable homicidal gas chamber, and the name of someone who was killed in it. Out of the millions of pictures and documents out there there has to be at least one picture and one person said to be killed in one. Oh, thats right, that information was lost in the shuffle of all that paperwork.

                  An Anti-semite is not one who hates Jews, its Jews who hate everyone else. You are truly Anti-Semitic…
                  True Semitic people wouldn’t behave like you, or your fellow HoloHuxsters.

                  JR
                  Holocausthandbooks.com
                  IHR.ORG
                  VHO.ORG
                  CODOH.COM
                  CCFIILE.COM

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 12, 2016 @ 3:08 pm

                • I see you don’t know a single thing about these fake Protocols.
                  ‘The Jews’ aren’t persecuting anyone. And how that it would be possible since ‘the Jews’ isn’t ‘one thing’, isn’t one entity, i.e. a single one world-wide organization with one board etc.
                  What do they have in common, i.e. a poor Jew from Yemen with a Jew in Argentina and a Jew in Israel or NYC?
                  Nothing at all, they do not even know each other.
                  But you want to think of ‘the Jews’ as a separate evil entity because this is what you have been told when you were a stupid ignorant young person (now you are a stupid ignorant grown-up person). Some tricky bastard fooled you and filled your brain vacuum with all these nonsense of the Protocols of Elder of Zion, Jews want to take over the world, Jews are behind everything, Jews make plots all day and all night to exterminate all the others and all this crap. If someone indoctrinated you about for example ‘the evil Greeks’, now you would be thinking of Greeks as an evil entity.
                  This is racists’ perception of the world, people like you who believe the Protocols are real, even though it was a copy/paste from some other junk literature targeting other groups of people (not Jews), long before ‘Zionism’ exists.
                  But the hate for the most persecuted people of the world in all human history, the Jews, is not going away because people like you still live in the Middle Ages.
                  So, none is after you.
                  What is ‘after’ you and your kind of people is the civil society, the whole human civilization who can’t stand anymore hate speech and racism. Not only you antisemites are under the microscope for spreading hate. All racists are.
                  Did you get it a little now?
                  I doubt.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 13, 2016 @ 12:53 am

                • Klingon…..Really now! I have personally experience the wrath of the Jews. They are more connected than you will ever know or admit.
                  I had a business that most of my clientele were Jews…..guess what happened to them? When I came out of the closet with my HoloHoax stuff….goodby Jews…..and they were from different towns yet they all knew who I was because the Jews are a tribe that sticks together. I got all my business from Jews who referred me and lost all my business from Jews who conspired not to use me, news sure traveled fast from one Temple to another…. Incredible how they can conspire to put people out of business when people don’t agree with their Cultic HoloHoax views. So don’t you dare tell me that the Jews aren’t connected, they are more connected than what you want to admit.

                  The Jews only care about Jews, they are the most racist people on the planet. Even the ones who are not the top echelon Jews with a lot of money passively go along with those at the top so as not to offend the leaders of their CULT. They go along to get along, because for them, to take a stand for the truth, would mean their lives would be ruined either financially or religiously from being ostracized from their Temples where they meet regularly.. Good example of Jews being ostracized is Jew Norman Finklestein who wrote the book The Holocaust Industry which eventually got him kicked out of a tenured teaching position from DePaul University, thanks to HoloHuxster Alan Dershowitz who was the leader of the pack on this one. I guess he’s the one the trolls around looking for Jew dissenters in the colleges.
                  He’s a real scum bag someone that you apparently would get along well with.

                  Sad to say Klingon…you defend the worse group of people in the world, and the ones doing the most harm to everyone else that don’t agree with them, and for some reason you don’t see a conspiracy among them…..ya right.

                  JR
                  Holocausthandbooks.com
                  IHR.ORG
                  VHO.ORG
                  CODOH.COM
                  CCFIILE.COM

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 13, 2016 @ 10:31 am

                • I think losing all your Jews clients from your business, my dear Rizoto, was a natural thing to happen, after you came out of the closet with your Holocaust denial stuff. It’s no conspiracy. It’s a rational reaction. Imagine you, having lost all of your family or your whole village or the entire community you used to live, and someone comes to your face and calls you ‘Liar, you didn’t lose anyone, you say these things only for the money, no Jew ever died because of Nazism’ etc.
                  You would do the same thing.
                  I would do the same thing, if for example there was a denial among some of my fellow Greeks that the Genocide by the Turks in Asia Minor and in Pontos didn’t happen in 1919-1922. I would inform all my friends and relatives never to step again their foot in the denier’s shop. Fortunately, there isn’t such a thing in Greece, but during the first years, after the Greek refugees from Turkey came to Greece, let’s say during 1922 to 1940, when some indigenous Greeks made racist comments for my grandmother and her family and the other refugees, they talked to each other and decided to avoid going in the racists’ shops.
                  This trauma is a very heavy burden for everyone ever experienced it. Memory defines you in mysterious ways. Unjust deaths of your beloved ones for no reason defines your memory even more. My grandmother used to cry for hours everyday for all the relatives she lost in 1922. You can’t play with a wound like that. Just open your mouth and say whatever stupid thing you read somewhere, not knowing the pain you cause. It’s not humane, believe me. I don’t know if you are from Italian origins, but as far as I know, Italy never suffered a genocide or an ethnic cleansing.
                  You should expect it, it’s a natural reaction, my dear Ravioli.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 13, 2016 @ 11:06 am

                • Klingon. I feel like I’m back in 6th grade when people used to call me ravioli thanks for bringing me back in time. LOL

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 13, 2016 @ 11:09 am

                • You didn’t really read these two articles. Especially the first one. They are about actual documents. But you don’t know what they are talking about. It proves your beloved Mattogno was obviously unaware of it, because it rejects completely his ‘findings’.
                  Also, I see that you don’t know a thing about the dynamics of the nazi terminology and how it was evolved during time.
                  The second describes the method Blobel’s crew used to locate the graves.
                  But you still don’t know what I’m talking about.
                  Don’t worry, I’m used to this, too. All you deniers reject real evidence because of your ignorance.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 1:26 pm

        • Κλέων Ι wrote: “If so, then why did the Nazis killed Jews in other countries so early, for example Estonia (‘Judenfrei’ at the end of 1941), the other Baltic countries, Ukraine and Serbia (‘Judenfrei’ in 1941, too) which on purpose I’ve included in my countries list (as Yugoslavia), just to see if you know what are you talking about.”

          Feel free to prove those people were indeed killed. No “Paul Blobel & Co. obliterated all physical evidence of that slaughter” evasion, please. And a given area can be made Judenfrei (or anything else -frei) without killing its Jewish inhabitants. You just need to kick all the Jews out of a given area to make it Judenfrei.

          Κλέων Ι wrote: “Hitler killed them on spot, long before he’d started losing the war and long before ‘forced laborers were needed for the German war effort’.”

          The Germans needed forced laborers long before they started losing the war. With so many young able-bodied Germans engaged in kosher WW2, no surprise forced labor was needed without delay.

          Κλέων Ι wrote: “see also ‘group B’ countries in Eichmann’s list during the Wannsee Conference. Spain, Portugal, Turkey etc, why did the Nazis care?”

          What part of the word ‘Europe’ do you fail to understand? The countries of group A (occupied by Germany) were to be cleared of their Jews before the countries of group B (not occupied by Germany) suffered the same fate. The whole of Europe was to be completely Judenfrei a couple of years after WW2. That was the real Nazi Final Solution to the Jewish problem in Europe.

          Why did the Nazis care? See my above comment about Jewish anti-German agitation abroad. No lasting peace in Europe as long as Jewish agitators were allowed to stay anywhere in Europe. That was the Nazi opinion at that time.

          Κλέων Ι wrote: “Peter Longerich’s book says it all.”

          If that helps you to sleep at night, good for you.

          Κλέων Ι wrote: “Your lies don’t add up with the truth. This what liars have to deal with all the time. You just want to cover-up the crimes. Blah blah blah…”

          Very funny low-level psychoanalysis. I liked the 10th stage of a genocide thing. Downright hilarious. Thanks for sharing that great piece of comedy with us… 😉

          Comment by hermie — December 9, 2016 @ 7:41 am

          • Sure, but you don’t say anything essential or with some substance here. As for the killings and the numbers in 1941, which proves you wrong, check Wikipedia, what else can I say? Simply, you don’t have an argument and you try to make fun of me, how mature.

            Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 8:00 am

            • You wrote: “..check Wikipedia, what else can I say?”

              Wikipedia is kosher, meaning that it includes only information that is approved by Jews. Many years ago, when Wikipedia was new, I wrote something which was quickly removed and I was banned — because what I wrote did not agree with what the Jews believe. The same thing happened when my son wrote something on Wikipedia; what he wrote was removed and he was banned.

              Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 8:06 am

              • There are a lot of books and studies and researches on these matters, as well. There are Historical Institutes and Museums and Universities in these countries and there’s a lot of literature. I’m not saying anything new here. So now you deny not only the Holocaust itself but also the early killings in these countries?
                That’s interesting and it shows a lot for your credibility. If you’re honest, you can just say ‘I’m not familiar with these subjects’ and it will be OK.
                But denying it only because it doesn’t fit your theories doesn’t sound well, believe me.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 8:11 am

                • You wrote: “If you’re honest, you can just say ‘I’m not familiar with these subjects’ and it will be OK.
                  But denying it only because it doesn’t fit your theories doesn’t sound well, believe me.”

                  It would be wrong for me to say that I am not familiar with these subjects. I have a whole library of books about the Holocaust, which I have read, and in which I have written comments in the margins. I have been to many of the former camps; I have been to many of the camps two or more times. I have talked personally to many of the former inmates of the camps. I lived in Germany for 20 months after World War II, so I have talked to many Germany people who were alive during World War II. Some of these people had been prisoners in the camps. When I lived in Germany, I learned to speak the Bavarian dialect so that I could talk to the people.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 9, 2016 @ 8:28 am

                • @furtherglory
                  You wrote:
                  – I have been to many of the camps two or more times etc

                  I didn’t doubt this and your knowledge on Germany. Before this comment of yours, I was talking to user hermie about the early killings in countries outside Germany, I mean Serbia, Estonia and other Baltic countries, Ukraine, Poland, and also a little later for Greece, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Hungary, Slovakia, Denmark, Italy, North France etc. He questioned the evidence for all these countries in which Jews killings took place (for the first group of countries on spot in 1941-1942) for other reasons in each case comparing to the reasons regarding the German Jews.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 10:01 am

                • If the Jews were killed in other countries outside of Germany you can be assured they deserved to be killed for their partisan activities….
                  There was a lot of Sabotaging going on to disrupt the German war machine so what would you expect?
                  This is what happens with wars….those that fight against you get killed.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 9, 2016 @ 10:54 am

                • Simply, you’re wrong here. You don’t know the facts. There were other orders from the very top nazi leadership regarding the partisans and there were totally different orders regarding the civilians, children, elderly, women etc, especially in the first years of the war and prior to the partisans’ activity. Why should all Jewish babies in a lot of countries had to be killed?
                  But the main thing here is something else. OK, you hate the Jews so much and you vindicate SS actions against them and you want to see them in gas chambers again. I get that. Why do you take the side of the nazis in cases of the patriot partisans who just defended their homeland? Is it decent? Because you’re a nazi, too. Because you adore SS and Gestapo and the Final Solution. That’s why.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 11:04 am

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “the patriot partisans who just defended their homeland”

                  Hilarious. The partisans of WW2 were not patriots (Patriotism has never been the forte of Communists, despite their use of deceptive propaganda names such as “The Great Patriotic War”) and they didn’t just defend their homeland as you claim. Their job was to force German retaliatory actions in order to prevent any fraternization between the German soldiers and the locals (most of whom hated Stalin and his regime beyond anything) in Eastern Europe. Partisan activities always involve civilians in wars (the essence of guerilla warfare) and so make their lot much worse. That’s why partisan activities were forbidden and illegal according to international laws. And that’s also why Stalin sent his partisans spread the mess in Eastern Europe and elsewhere. The rest is just victors’ laughable storytelling for political purposes…

                  Comment by hermie — December 10, 2016 @ 7:05 am

                • All your knowledge in only about Russia and around it?
                  You don’t have other examples?
                  Try Greece, try Yugoslavia, try even France, Denmark or the Netherlands. There were a lot of patriots (not communists) fighting for their homeland as any decent person would do. Why do you refuse to give them credit for that? Will you be one of these guerillas if a foreign country invaded your homeland? I doubt it. You’re a quisling. You will be going in bed with your occupiers the moment they stepped in your country, especially if there were Nazis with theories for ‘subhumans’. All nazis have secret desires to get in bed by Aryans with SS uniforms.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 7:19 am

                • What part of the word ‘elsewhere’ (“the mess in Eastern Europe and elsewhere”) do you fail to understand?

                  The partisans of WW2 were Communists. The other illegal fighters of WW2 were called resistants, not partisans. At least, you have learnt something today. Still better than yesterday and all the previous days of your pathetic life.

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “Will you be one of these guerillas if a foreign country invaded your homeland? I doubt it. You’re a quisling. You will be going in bed with your occupiers the moment they stepped in your country”

                  The only quislings I can see today are the guys working for the hegemonic domination of the Jewish occupiers like you do…

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “All nazis have secret desires to get in bed by Aryans with SS uniforms.”

                  You didn’t stay above the bell for a very long time, I see. Why am I not surprised?

                  Comment by hermie — December 10, 2016 @ 7:48 am

                • Stupid British nazi, of course I will make mistakes. English is not my mother language and it is perfectly normal to make mistakes and to say the resistants partisans or even guerillas. In my language is the same.
                  But what about you?

                  You tell me that YOU DIDN’T understand that I was talking about resistants IN GENERAL?
                  Are you SO STUPID?

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 8:51 am

                • No answers on this too, when I said the word ‘patriots’:

                  – Try Greece, try Yugoslavia, try even France, Denmark or the Netherlands.

                  So, I was right when I said ‘illiterate, ignorant, benighted, uncultivated, uninformed, uneducated and witless to all these subjects and it is obvious that your education comes only from the internet’.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 8:57 am

                • edit above the belt

                  Comment by hermie — December 10, 2016 @ 8:18 am

                • Nice try to avoid my question but you didn’t answer it.
                  If Nazi Germany invaded your country would you be in the Resistance?

                  Of course not. You would be a traitor for the nazi ’cause’, that’s for sure.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 8:54 am

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “Stupid British nazi, of course I will make mistakes. English is not my mother language and it is perfectly normal to make mistakes and to say the resistants partisans or even guerillas. In my language is the same. But what about you?”

                  English isn’t my mother language either. It’s not even my 2nd language. The 3rd language I learnt.

                  Language is no excuse for your crass ignorance…

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “You tell me that YOU DIDN’T understand that I was talking about resistants IN GENERAL?”

                  No, I hadn’t understood what you were talking about. Because the meaning of words matters.

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “No answers on this too, when I said the word ‘patriots’: – Try Greece, try Yugoslavia, try even France, Denmark or the Netherlands.”

                  The only difference between a patriot and a terrorist is the identity of the winner at the end of a war.

                  I had answered your comment with my “What part of the word ‘elsewhere’ did you fail to understand?”

                  In France for instance, the terrorist/patriotic mess really began when the war between the Axis and the Soviet Union broke out. Due to the Communist tendencies of most terrorists…

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “So, I was right when I said ‘illiterate, ignorant, benighted, uncultivated, uninformed, uneducated and witless to all these subjects and it is obvious that your education comes only from the internet’.”

                  What a kid ! Now I remember why I first thought that you were in a sorority or fraternity because of your Greek name… 😉

                  Comment by hermie — December 11, 2016 @ 5:29 pm

                • So, a quisling and a traitor. And a fan of mass killings of your co-patriots, what you call ‘terrorists’ for ‘the cause’. As it happens in 1941 in Ukraine, the Baltic countries, Serbia etc.
                  And you didn’t understand although I wrote ‘patriots (not communists) fighting for their homeland’. Not even the brackets helped you. A wannabe nazi of the 21st century, coming from the Middle Ages.
                  Clear.

                  This is an insane thought of yours, it doesn’t make sense:

                  – I first thought that you were in a sorority or fraternity because of your Greek name.

                  You understood this BS with fraternities etc, judging from the name? (we haven’t fraternities and stuff like that in Greece, you should know. We see it only in the western movies and we laugh, it’s not our customs, it’s something very strange for us Greeks. But for you it seems very important everyday stuff, as it is the case with all kids. Otherwise, why it was your first thought and why did you mention it out of the blue in this completely irrelevant manner?).
                  Anyway, this is totally stupid.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 12:25 am

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “Nice try to avoid my question but you didn’t answer it. If Nazi Germany invaded your country would you be in the Resistance? Of course not. You would be a traitor for the nazi ’cause’, that’s for sure.”

                  Of course, I wouldn’t be in the so-called ‘resistance’ and I would be “a traitor for the nazi cause” (unless the regime ruling my country is in fact a traitor against my people, and so I should rather be called a savior, a rescuer, or just a hero) in the minute ! What else?! So obvious I didn’t even consider it necessary to mention it.

                  Comment by hermie — December 11, 2016 @ 5:42 pm

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “So, a quisling and a traitor. And a fan of mass killings of your co-patriots, what you call ‘terrorists’ for ‘the cause’. As it happens in 1941 in Ukraine, the Baltic countries, Serbia etc. And you didn’t understand although I wrote ‘patriots (not communists) fighting for their homeland’. Not even the brackets helped you. A wannabe nazi of the 21st century, coming from the Middle Ages. Clear. This is an insane thought of yours, it doesn’t make sense”

                  Betraying traitors is not treason. And loyalty to traitors is not patriotism. Perhaps a concept too sophisticated for your small brain…

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “You understood this BS with fraternities etc, judging from the name?”

                  From your name, from the puerility of your comments, and from your teenage hysterical excitability. From all those things together.

                  Κλέων Ι wrote: “(we haven’t fraternities and stuff like that in Greece, you should know. We see it only in the western movies and we laugh, it’s not our customs, it’s something very strange for us Greeks. But for you it seems very important everyday stuff, as it is the case with all kids. Otherwise, why it was your first thought and why did you mention it out of the blue in this completely irrelevant manner?).Anyway, this is totally stupid.”

                  Anachronism. That was before you said you’re a Greek guy.

                  No fraternities and sororities either where I live.

                  Comment by hermie — December 12, 2016 @ 6:31 am

                • That’s funny.
                  I see you didn’t include in your quoting the only sentence which proves that you actually conclude all these BS for fraternities etc from my Greek name.

                  But after all, it’s there for anyone to see. You said:

                  – I first thought that you were in a sorority or fraternity because of your Greek name.

                  Now, once again, you’re changing your story. How mature.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 12, 2016 @ 6:44 am

                • “That’s funny. I see you didn’t include in your quoting the only sentence which proves that you actually conclude all these BS for fraternities etc from my Greek name.”

                  Less funny than you ‘omitting’ the previous sentence (i.e. “What a kid !!”) showing that I had in fact based my assumption on your Greek name AND on your childish/teenage comments. Dishonesty? Or just poor intellectual abilities? I don’t care. Stop wasting my time with this boring game (at least if you plan to be regarded as anything other than another troll whose job is to make me waste my time).

                  Comment by hermie — December 12, 2016 @ 7:30 am

                • Nice desperate try, but it doesn’t change anything, even if I had included the phrase ‘What a kid’ or not. It is your so-called ‘argument’ I’m after, not your adjectives. With or without the phrase ‘What a kid’, your assumption was based on my Greek name, no matter what you say now. You can’t save it, pal. It’s exactly what you’ve said.
                  Where did you learn to debate? On stormfront forum?
                  Stop wasting my time.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 13, 2016 @ 1:01 am

            • Kleon….Or Klingon is a better name for you….I guess you will just have to get in line with the other HoloHuxsters here that believe that 6 million Jews were killed in fake gas chambers using a bug spray or whatever other silly apparatus/thing they invented to make their case.
              But on a serious side, it really is a shame that Hitler didn’t exterminate the vermin that was working to destroy all of Europe. We now have to deal with the consequences.
              Hitler was too nice to them thinking that he could put these people to work and keep out of his way. The pissed and moaned all the way not really appreciating the fact that they were sheltered from the real affects of the war. Then they conspire after the war and make up all these “believe it or not” stories to get the gullible Goyim to believe them and they are off to the races as the most abused people that ever walked this earth.
              You got to hand it to them they did a great job getting the lies out and now they are doing a better job trying to pass laws that make it a crime to criticize their lies.
              So Kleon/Klingon whatever the hell your name is here, welcome to the only forum that tells the truth about these events, lets see how long you stay making ridiculous comments that only a Jewish mother could love. Or you can hang out with people that think just like you on the Skeptics forums, the only site on the internet that questions every event in history but believe thes HoloHoax 100% bug spray and all.

              JR
              Holocausthandbooks.com
              Codoh.com
              IHR.COM
              VHO.COM
              CCFIILE.COM

              Comment by jrizoli — December 9, 2016 @ 8:57 am

              • What is this ‘Klingon’ thing you mentioned twice?
                Hmmm, I think you’re cursing me. Very rational, not all Jew-haters (or paranoids) can make a decent conversation.
                The other gentleman asked me if I was someone Ms Click.
                Something strange happens here, maybe is these evil Jews haunting you.

                As for the rest of your comment, well, I said it from the very beginning. You are all in a schizophrenic type of dichotomy. Why do you deny the Holocaust since you want in fact so desperately to praise it?

                You ‘ve lived all your life in all these crazy ideas from the well-known forgery of the Protocols of Elder of Zion, Jews want to take over the world, Jews are behind everything, Jews make plots all day and all night to exterminate all the others and all this crap.
                You seek, day in, day out, more and more reasons to hate the Jews.

                You got more and more obsessed, and you see Jews (or should I say Klingons?) everywhere.

                I really want to to help you. If you let me, I will.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 10:26 am

            • Κλέων wrote: “Sure, but you don’t say anything essential or with some substance here.”

              Hey, not everybody is able to formulate great arguments such as “check wikipedia.” 😉

              Comment by hermie — December 9, 2016 @ 9:11 pm

              • You shouldn’t deserve any more sophisticated answer, when you’re denying the early killings of the non-German Jews in 1941, although my answer to you was this one:

                There are a lot of books and studies and researches on these matters, as well. There are Historical Institutes and Museums and Universities in these countries and there’s a lot of literature. I’m not saying anything new here. So now you deny not only the Holocaust itself but also the early killings in these countries?
                That’s interesting and it shows a lot for your credibility. If you’re honest, you can just say ‘I’m not familiar with these subjects’ and it will be OK.
                But denying it only because it doesn’t fit your theories doesn’t sound well, believe me.

                The funniest thing about you is that you can’t even tell what’s psychology and what’s not. You wrote

                – Very funny low-level psychoanalysis. I liked the 10th stage of a genocide thing etc

                This tells me that you have hallucinations and that you’re seeing visions. How a serious person could ever name the ‘genocide stages’ literature as ‘low-level psychoanalysis’?
                It’s beyond common people’s understanding abilities.

                http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

                It’s a very simple description of what you’re doing,
                It’s because you want to vindicate the Nazis and Hitler for the slaughter of the Jews and it’s you the person who says insane things like that:

                – «The Jews were the aggressors in Germany, and that Hitler was operating defensively when he initiated the Holocaust, except that he didn’t initiate the Holocaust, because the Holocaust is a lie perpetrated by the Jews, who deserve to die in a Holocaust:»

                This is as paranoid as it can get but this is actually your statements, not mine.

                You’ re simply illiterate, ignorant, benighted, uncultivated, uninformed, uneducated and witless to all these subjects and it is obvious that your Holocaust education comes only from the internet, so it will be total waste of time to try to explain to you more.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 1:25 am

                • Classifying skepticism and critical review (what you call ‘denial’ for better sleep) as the 10th stage of a genocide, is ridiculous groundless psychology, whether you like it or not. Sounds like the deviant wanderings of Freud, when the famous wacko really believed that every male wanted to f*ck his own mother. Nothing but psychotic delirium disguised as science…

                  In any case, very funny to see you go to such great lengths only to explain why I don’t deserve your enlightened teachings. 😉

                  Comment by hermie — December 10, 2016 @ 6:40 am

                • No, it’s simply scientific study of the genocides. There’s a whole field for these subjects in academia, in universities and in scholars’ communities. They have their own journals, conventions etc.

                  This next IS psychology. Very clever and serious people playing with your mind and with the minds and attitudes of all people who still live in the Middle Agesa and thinking like savages, conspiracies, blood libels, calling vermins other human beings like all the commentators in this page etc.

                  Enjoy, this one was made for you and keep in mind that the 99,5% of our planet’s population is mocking and is making fun of you and your medieval beliefs:

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 7:05 am

                • You wrote: “Very clever and serious people playing with your mind and with the minds and attitudes of all people who still live in the Middle Agesa and thinking like savages, conspiracies, blood libels, calling vermins other human beings like all the commentators in this page etc.”

                  On this blog post, I wrote about the Jews being oppressed for centuries.

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/wilhelm-marr/

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 10, 2016 @ 7:57 am

                • If anything is not testable and produces no repeatable results, that’s not science. Your imaginary 10th stage of a genocide is of course part of non-science. Mere groundless claims in a pseudo-scientific jargon.

                  Κλέων Ι. wrote: “keep in mind that the 99,5% of our planet’s population is mocking and is making fun of you and your medieval beliefs:”

                  This planet didn’t start revolving around the sun when 99.5% of our planet’s population realized it was/is. The only medieval thing I can see here is the medieval laws intended to prevent Holo-heretics from spreading the truth…

                  Comment by hermie — December 10, 2016 @ 7:35 am

                • Klingon is one of those psychological babble guys that likes to think he one step ahead of you….but in reality he’s just a troll trying to bait us.
                  Notice he has no good answer for the logistics of the Holohoax happening…just psycho babble about why we believe what we believe.
                  That is typical Jew Psychops. When he can show me how throwing ZB in a room worked under the conditions back then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation…..as of now we have to believe that 6 millions Jews were killed in fake gas chambers using bug spray.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 10, 2016 @ 9:00 am

                • Κλέων Ι wrote: “No, it’s simply scientific study of the genocides.”

                  The scientific study of genocides involves exhuming mass graves, studying contemporary documents, etc. Trying to explain, through non-scientific methods, why some people don’t believe without seeing is not science. That is obscurantism. Perhaps you just need to go (back?) to the definition of the word ‘science.’

                  Comment by hermie — December 10, 2016 @ 8:15 am

              • See a great piece from the scientific field of … psychology (!) according to the genius Hermie ignorant character with his extraordinary mental capacity.:

                The Ten Stages of Genocide by Dr. Gregory H. Stanton, President, Genocide Watch

                Classification Symbolization Discrimination Dehumanization Organization Polarization Preparation Persecution Extermination Denial

                http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/tenstagesofgenocide.html

                Great … psychological (!) stuff. All shrinks use it a hundred times a day.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 10, 2016 @ 1:36 am

                • Yes, but good old Dr. Gregory’s recipe of “Ten Stages of Genocide” does not finish with an “ation”. He wasn’t able to dream up a word called “Denialization” because it would make him look stupid in front of his peers in the academic world.

                  But we can all construct big-sounding words to make up ten sacred commandments in order to appear authoritative and grand;-

                  Standardization, Monopolization, Mobilization, Liquidation, Pulverisation, Perambulation, Cohabitation, Fornication, Trainstation, and lastly – lunatic asylum!

                  Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 8:46 am

                • The website called “Genocide Watch” can’t get its numbers right. On its “Home Page” it states that the very learned Dr. Gregory Stanton lists “10 Stages of Genocide”; but on the very next page, entitled “The Mission of Genocide Watch”, he is only credited with 8 stages.

                  I do hope the good doctor can sort himself out soon.

                  And the organisation called “Genocide Watch” doesn’t seem to have any identifiable public office with a recognised address. It seems you contact them through a P.O. Box number;-

                  The International Alliance to End Genocide
                  P.O. Box 809, Washington, D.C.

                  Wow! – how mysterious. And if they are based in Washington DC then you can bet that it is merely a political front, sponsored by the US government and various Zionist lobbies.

                  Comment by Talbot — December 10, 2016 @ 2:19 pm

                • Sure, but if you weren’t the illiterate person you seem to be, you should perhaps read that the 8 stage model was Dr Stanton’s initial model and then he developed it. It’s there, and it says:

                  I am grateful to many people for improvements in my original 8 stage model … etc

                  http://www.genocidewatch.org/genocide/tenstagesofgenocide.html

                  As for the Alliance itself it includes a lot of Professors and Doctors and UN officials etc

                  Genocide Watch Board of Directors
                  – Dr. Gregory H Stanton (bio) President, Genocide Watch
                  – Mr. Charles A. Pillsbury Executive Director, Community Mediation, Inc., New Haven, CT
                  – Rev. Lonnie Turner Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, Capetown, South Africa

                  Genocide Watch Board of Advisors

                  – Prof. Alexander Alvarez
                  Professor, Department of Criminal Justice, Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, AZ

                  – Prof. Yehuda Bauer
                  Hebrew University, Jerusalem, Israel

                  – Prof. Michael Bayzler
                  Professor or Law, Chapman University School of Law, Orange, CA

                  – Prof. Frank Chalk
                  Professor of History, Concordia University, Montreal, Canada

                  – Dr. Susan Cook
                  University of Pretoria, Republic of South Africa
                  […]

                  http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutus/directorsandadvisors.html

                  And it consists from a lot of organizations:

                  The Laogai Research Foundation Washington, USA

                  The Aegis Trust – Genocide Prevention Initiative Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom

                  The Anuak Justice Council Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada; Spokane, Washington, USA

                  CALDH – centro de acción legal para los derechos humanos Guatemala City, Guatemala

                  The Cambodian Genocide Project, Inc. Washington, DC, USA

                  Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies, University of Minnesota Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

                  Center for Holocaust and Human Rights Studies at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law, Yeshiva University New York, New York, USA

                  Center for Political Beauty Berlin, Germany
                  […]

                  http://www.genocidewatch.org/alliancetoendgenocide/members.html

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 1:23 am

                • I wonder who pays the salaries of all these old doctors, professors and reverends that you name on your list, Mr Ouzo. I don’t expect they have done anything to prevent any genocides from happening anywhere at all. They are just a bunch of hand-picked toadies who pontificate to one another and submit learned documents into the public domain.

                  As I said before, such an organisation is nothing more that a political front which is used by the USA for its global strategies of dominance around the world.

                  I for one am not impressed by such a self-righteous body as “Genocide Watch” – they probably need watching very carefully themselves!

                  But the “Centre for Political Beauty Berlin” sound gorgeous. I hope all the political attendees are all wearing attractive gowns and costumes with make-up and jewellery when they gather for their meetings there.

                  Comment by Talbot — December 11, 2016 @ 8:57 am

                • And I wonder why you call me ‘Ouzo’. It is because it’s the only Greek word you know (wrong, you know a lot more although you may not be aware of this) or you try to mock me? Is it a flaw being Greek? Am I from a not superior race or something?

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 10:07 am

                • You wrote: “Is it a flaw being Greek? Am I from a not superior race or something?”

                  The only people who claim to be “superior”, to all others, are the Jews, who are not a race, but rather a religion.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 11, 2016 @ 10:23 am

                • I wouldn’t actually say it’s a flaw in your race I would say that you disgrace your race because your a knucklehead and you’re really don’t know what you’re talking about and you just parrot the same old Holohoax bullshit that everybody else says. You don’t seem to have a mind of your own because you don’t answer my questions about Krema 1 in Auschwitz 1. But that’s to be expected none of you have. Hard to believe you can believe that a building that was recreated after the war was used as a homicidal gas chamber yet when you look inside it, it definitely couldn’t do what they say it could do.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 11, 2016 @ 10:40 am

                • Κλέων 1

                  If you gained the impression that I was insulting your Greek heritage, please forgive me. I regard the Greeks as a noble people.
                  But the Greek pen-name you employ is difficult to type out, plus the fact that you insulted me, so in response, I felt free to respond in a satirical fashion.

                  In future I will address you as K1.

                  Comment by Talbot — December 11, 2016 @ 10:58 am

                • If my Greek is right the name is Κλέων is Cleon in English….I prefer to use Klingon because I see he or she most likely he will be klinging on for a while here trying to cause trouble.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 11, 2016 @ 11:23 am

                • Hmmm, I’m not sure that ‘PhD’ was the correct term for the kind of degree I have. I mean, in US and UK a PhD makes you a ‘Doctor’, right? Just to be clear on this, my second degree is in the next lower level, not of a ‘Doctor’s level’. Perhaps is equal (or more like) to ‘Master’s Degree’, I guess. In Greece we don’t have colleges and next Universities in a superior level. They are all Universities, and because of this the degrees’ hierarchy is different comparing to the hierarchy in US and UK. So, I should say probably ‘Master’s Degree’, I guess.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 12:07 pm

                • I don’t think it was ‘trouble’. Just a powerful and perhaps passionate good discussion, I guess, with a lot of arguments from both sides. Any future random visitor will judge who was closer to the truth.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 12:11 pm

                • Don’t bother. I was not offended by Ouzo (that’s why I asked ‘is it the only Greek word you know’). And you’re right, my language with all these non-Latin characters (which I do not know how they look in non-Greek computers, I guess they look like screen junk) is making non-Greeks life difficult when they want to address me. My name is Kleon (or Cleon, ancient Greek name), my surname is Ioannidis (means ‘Johnson’, ‘Johanssen’, son of John), I’m 49 from Salonica (Thessaloniki), Greece, male, I’ve studied Informatics & Computer Science in University, then I got a PhD in History, I have published a couple of books along with my research team, called ‘XYZ Contagion’ which is a Greek investigative journalistic research team on political and historical issues, and occasionally I contribute to newspapers and magazines.
                  https://xyzcontagion.wordpress.com/about/#English

                  You can call me Kleon, it’s OK.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 11:45 am

              • For the ignorant person ‘Hermie’ who used to try to mock me in this conversation, when I told him ‘read a book, or take a look at a lot of literature in Historical Institutes and Museums and Universities (in the countries in the East where the early 1941-1942 killings took place), or even check Wikipedia’

                Here’s the page 498 from your beloved fascist David Irving book ‘Hitler’s war’, 2002 edition.

                Can you see what does he say?

                – Upon arrival at their destinations further east, thousands were evidently simply being murdered

                Not just from the cities of Germany, either: the Jews were being rounded up in France, Holland, Belgium, and the Nazi satellite Slovakia. From Hans Frank’s Generalgouvernement too -beginning with the ghettos of Lublin- the Jews were being shipped eastward under Globocnik’s direction.

                – Upon arrival at their destinations further east, thousands were evidently simply being murdered.

                You see. Next time, be serious.

                Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 31, 2016 @ 6:45 am

                • You wrote: “– Upon arrival at their destinations further east, thousands were evidently simply being murdered.” You were evidently quoting David Irving.

                  How does one “simply” be murdered? How does one “evidently” be murdered?

                  I interpreted this as Irving saying that he didn’t know what had happened to the Jews, but evidently something happened to them and it could be that the Jews were “simply” murdered, for lack of a better explanation.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 31, 2016 @ 9:43 am

                • Oh, really?
                  Once again, you can’t understand what Irving says, right?
                  Of course, it would be too difficult I guess.
                  Every case that doesn’t fit your hoaxes, every single case, you all suddenly become too unable to understand, I know, I know well.
                  Let me help you then:

                  From a speech he gave in your beloved CODOH.

                  See the marked excerpt:

                  – Eichmann then says, “I went out to Minsk, and I saw myself the mass shootings going on.”

                  Now you probably know that I’m a Revisionist to a degree, but I’m not a Revisionist to the extent that I say that there were no murders of Jews. I think we have to accept that there were My Lai-type massacres where SS officers — the Einsatzkommandos — did machine-gun hundreds if not thousand of Jews into pits. On the Eastern Front, at Riga, at Minsk, and at other locations, this kind of thing did happen.
                  https://archive.is/GxfoQ#selection-725.265-731.410

                  And just because I guess, once again, you will not get all these very obvious evidently, check this one also:

                  – Eichmann […] describes how in July 1941 (if you piece together the actual months and the dates) he is summoned to Berlin to visit Reinhard Heydrich, the chief of the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA). Heydrich utters to him the fateful words, “Ich komme vom Reichsführer SS. Der Führer hat den Befehl zur physischen Vernichtung der Juden gegeben.” (“I’ve come from the Reichsführer SS [Himmler]. The Führer has given the order for the physical destruction of the Jews.“)
                  https://archive.is/GxfoQ#selection-665.80-665.600

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 31, 2016 @ 12:41 pm

                • You wrote: ” the Einsatzkommandos — did machine-gun hundreds if not thousand of Jews into pits.”

                  This information about the Einsatzkommandos came from the confession of Rudolf Hoess after he was tortured by the British.

                  I wrote about his confession on this page of my website:
                  https://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/RudolfHoess.html

                  Hoess made obvious mistakes in his testimony, after he was tortured. This indicates that his confession was dictated to him by the British.

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 31, 2016 @ 1:26 pm

                • What ‘information’ are you talking about? As it is only just a meaningless detail somewhere out there, with no connection to anything else?

                  It is what Irving admits and what he stands for, mass killings were a reality and the fact has been verified by millions of proof. Physical evidence, testimonies, documents, even reports for the numbers of the murdered that were circulated in the offices of the state, the party, the army and Hitler himself, who he signed them and marked them to show his approval. These reports were secret, of course, but many of them existed and have been found in dozens of copies. If Hitler didn’t want these things to happen, why he didn’t punish the killers, then?

                  Oh yes, i know, I know. Here’s goes the story ‘he didn’t know’.

                  Well, it is something I can’t understand about all you nazi deniers, and nobody ever gave me an answer:

                  You are Holocaust deniers, OK. You don’t believe in the Holocaust, you call it ‘hoax’, ‘Jewish lie’ etc.
                  But you love and you admire Hitler for going after the Jews, right?
                  You believe it was the right thing to do. He stood up against the alleged Jewish ‘domination’ and Jewish ‘power’ and tried to destroy them.
                  And he did it. He destroyed a lot of Jewish communities, not only in Germany but in every occupied country.

                  So, why do you have to deny it?
                  If I were a proud Hitler-lover and/or National Socialist like you, I would stand up and say it clear and proud: ‘Hitler was great, Hitler was right for chasing Jews, I am admiring the man for what he did, going after these parasite rats, and I’m praising, both the nazis and the Holocaust’.

                  This is the logical thing for a nazi to do, I mean, for someone who denies the Holocaust because in fact wants to praise it and blame the victims and make it happen again and finish the job.

                  But you are pussies. You can’t be such straight. You’re hiding behind the denial and you say things like ‘no, it never happened, well, the Jews deserved it but it is a Jewish lie for profit’.
                  And in every single difficulty, you are changing your story.

                  In the end, what you say, in other words, is exactly this:

                  – ‘The Holocaust never happened, it is a hoax, but it was awesome and the Jews deserved it’

                  I think there is an answer to this bizarre situation:

                  You hate the Jews so much, that even in their cruel death, they have to be wrong.
                  I think this is the answer and it fits all you cowards/chickens/pussies who deny … your denial!
                  This is the truth.

                  Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 31, 2016 @ 1:47 pm

                • Klingon from Greece says…
                  So, why do you have to deny it? (Holohoax)
                  If I were a proud Hitler-lover and/or National Socialist like you, I would stand up and say it clear and proud: ‘Hitler was great, Hitler was right for chasing Jews, I am admiring the man for what he did, going after these parasite rats, and I’m praising, both the nazis and the Holocaust’. end quote…

                  Good question….my answer….
                  Thats what I believe! So whats the problem?

                  By the way….
                  Your figures of how many Jews were killed or died by natural causes is way over inflated….
                  I say that under 500,000 were killed in all the camps and half of them might of been Jews.
                  In regards to Executing of Jews by the Einsatzgruppen ….You bet, especially if they deserved it for being involved in Espionage, partisan killings, revolutionary activities, etc…which were by the way, not acceptable by the Hague convention in their rules of war, etc….These Jews and all rebellious folk did have to answer to the Reich for whatever laws they had set up good or bad.

                  No different than what happens here to those who behave in the same manner.
                  The HoloHoax is just that…..no proof, lots of babble with no facts….Many great stories for the movies and fiction writers later on though. Just 6 million liars who were said to be killed in homicidal “gas” chambers with ZB gas pellets, that go poof, and kill with in minutes….ya right…LOL

                  Think about this….they say in Auschwitz…less ZB was needed to kill people and more with lice, yet they claim people exposed to ZB were killed in minutes….So that would mean the time would have to be between 1-3 hrs at least for the ZB to do it’s dastardly deed. It’s a very slow acting gas…
                  Yet again, that would way too long of a wait for the next killings to happen to meet the ridiculous 3000 people per day for 4 years that they say happened to meet the miraculous 6 million figure.
                  So what we have here is this, either a LOT of ZB was used per killing cycle to kill people or less was used and the time allotted for the killing was longer, way longer, actually hrs.
                  Which is it? Would appreciate an answer. For some reasons the simple questions I ask are never answered.
                  Lets not forget they have the ZB orders on file and it doesn’t match the mass killings orders needed for the product but does the fumigation use of the product.
                  I guess the ZB was miraculously made to never run out by the miracles of the Chief rabbis….just like their Menorah candles would never burn out for Hanukkah. Ya right! LOL

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 31, 2016 @ 2:21 pm

                • “Think about this….they say in Auschwitz…less ZB was needed to kill people and more with lice, yet they claim people exposed to ZB were killed in minutes….So that would mean the time would have to be between 1-3 hrs at least for the ZB to do it’s dastardly deed. It’s a very slow acting gas…”

                  What?
                  Jim, it’s about concentration levels.
                  150 ppm is lethal to humans in about an hour, 300 ppm is lethal in about 1/2 an hour….but the Germans were not exact in what they measured out so undoubtedly what the Jews were exposed to higher concentrations of ZB. This caused some issues with timing. Also, you are dealing with large groups of people who displace the oxygen quicker.
                  Contrast that with what you need to fumigate clothing or a building. You need higher concentration levels of ZB to eradicate insects, especially lice. I believe the recommended level for insects is 6,000 ppm over 17 hours…not only to eradicate the bugs but the eggs.
                  Why?
                  Lice have primitive respiratory systems and are cold blooded. They have a slower metabolism which makes them less susceptible to airborne toxins.
                  So, yes, you need more ZB to kill bugs.

                  “Yet again, that would way too long of a wait for the next killings to happen to meet the ridiculous 3000 people per day for 4 years that they say happened to meet the miraculous 6 million figure.”

                  Jim again shows his piss poor understanding of the history he is trying to debunk.
                  Are you claiming that 6 million people died at Auschwitz-Birkenau, genius? That they all died from cyanide poisoning? God, I hope not.
                  About a million people died at Auschwitz, about 900,000 in the gas chambers.

                  “So what we have here is this, either a LOT of ZB was used per killing cycle to kill people or less was used and the time allotted for the killing was longer, way longer, actually hrs.”

                  No.
                  Please stop posting about things you know nothing about.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 31, 2016 @ 2:47 pm

                • “Klingon from Greece says…
                  So, why do you have to deny it? (Holohoax)
                  If I were a proud Hitler-lover and/or National Socialist like you, I would stand up and say it clear and proud: ‘Hitler was great, Hitler was right for chasing Jews, I am admiring the man for what he did, going after these parasite rats, and I’m praising, both the nazis and the Holocaust’. end quote…

                  Good question….my answer….
                  Thats what I believe! So whats the problem?”

                  You believe Hitler was right for killing about 5.5 million Jews? Well, I’m glad you are being honest about it.
                  Why do you call yourself a denier?

                  By the way….
                  Your figures of how many Jews were killed or died by natural causes is way over inflated….
                  I say that under 500,000 were killed in all the camps and half of them might of been Jews.
                  In regards to Executing of Jews by the Einsatzgruppen ….You bet, especially if they deserved it for being involved in Espionage, partisan killings, revolutionary activities, etc…which were by the way, not acceptable by the Hague convention in their rules of war, etc….These Jews and all rebellious folk did have to answer to the Reich for whatever laws they had set up good or bad.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 31, 2016 @ 2:52 pm

                • “Klingon from Greece says…
                  So, why do you have to deny it? (Holohoax)
                  If I were a proud Hitler-lover and/or National Socialist like you, I would stand up and say it clear and proud: ‘Hitler was great, Hitler was right for chasing Jews, I am admiring the man for what he did, going after these parasite rats, and I’m praising, both the nazis and the Holocaust’. end quote…

                  Good question….my answer….
                  Thats what I believe! So whats the problem?”

                  You believe Hitler was right for killing about 5.5 million Jews? Well, I’m glad you are being honest about it.
                  Why do you call yourself a denier?

                  “By the way….
                  Your figures of how many Jews were killed or died by natural causes is way over inflated….
                  I say that under 500,000 were killed in all the camps and half of them might of been Jews.”

                  Why do you embarrass yourself?

                  “In regards to Executing of Jews by the Einsatzgruppen ….You bet, especially if they deserved it for being involved in Espionage, partisan killings, revolutionary activities, etc…which were by the way, not acceptable by the Hague convention in their rules of war, etc….These Jews and all rebellious folk did have to answer to the Reich for whatever laws they had set up good or bad.”

                  So, it was OK for the SS and their proxies to shoot unarmed men, women and children?

                  Jim, they made their victims strip. The Jews had no weapons and were not fighting back. What indication was there that these were partisans? Or revolutionaries?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 31, 2016 @ 2:55 pm

                • How about this “eyewitness below? I guess the only eyewitnesses that you use are the ones that were crosseyed.

                  Eyewitness account of Auschwitz….

                  April 22 2008

                  Unfortunately I belong to those – according to your definition- unreasonable human beings who do not go so far as to deny the Holocaust, but nevertheless dispute it.

                  I was, that is to say, in Soviet captivity at Auschwitz in the summer of 1945 and know therefore that at that time there did not exist any gas chambers to gas human beings. I also know that it was not an extermination camp as you would call it. Have you ever been to Auschwitz?

                  In my search for the gas chambers I came across a tiled 20 meter swimming pool in the prisoner area complete with diving board and chromed ladders for entering and leaving the pool. I asked myself whether the prisoners were allowed to go swimming prior to being gassed.

                  One day I met two Polish Kapos( head overseers) who were living at the camp since the time of the war. During the course of our conversation I asked them what the living conditions were like in the camp and about the gas chambers. To get right to the point they knew nothing about any gas chambers. The living conditions were bearable. Those who worked received camp scrip (camp money). For that they could buy additional nourishment or tobbaco products or pay for a visit to the camp brothel. Prisoners who served their time were released.

                  It should also provide food for thought that Eli Wiesel prefered to evacuate with the Germans to the West instead of letting himself be liberated by the Red Army.

                  Incidentally, in numismatic circles Auschwitz scrip is still traded today.

                  Friedrich Stelzel

                  Packenreiter Str. 25

                  81247 Munchen

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 31, 2016 @ 9:50 am

                • I have blogged about David Irving on several blog posts: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/david-irving/

                  Comment by furtherglory — December 31, 2016 @ 9:50 am

                • Eyewitness account of Auschwitz….So who are you going to believe?
                  A homicidal “gas” chamber either existed or it didn’t.

                  April 22 2008

                  Unfortunately I belong to those – according to your definition- unreasonable human beings who do not go so far as to deny the Holocaust, but nevertheless dispute it.

                  I was, that is to say, in Soviet captivity at Auschwitz in the summer of 1945 and know therefore that at that time there did not exist any gas chambers to gas human beings. I also know that it was not an extermination camp as you would call it. Have you ever been to Auschwitz?

                  In my search for the gas chambers I came across a tiled 20 meter swimming pool in the prisoner area complete with diving board and chromed ladders for entering and leaving the pool. I asked myself whether the prisoners were allowed to go swimming prior to being gassed.

                  One day I met two Polish Kapos( head overseers) who were living at the camp since the time of the war. During the course of our conversation I asked them what the living conditions were like in the camp and about the gas chambers. To get right to the point they knew nothing about any gas chambers. The living conditions were bearable. Those who worked received camp scrip (camp money). For that they could buy additional nourishment or tobbaco products or pay for a visit to the camp brothel. Prisoners who served their time were released.

                  It should also provide food for thought that Eli Wiesel prefered to evacuate with the Germans to the West instead of letting himself be liberated by the Red Army.

                  Incidentally, in numismatic circles Auschwitz scrip is still traded today.

                  Friedrich Stelzel

                  Packenreiter Str. 25

                  81247 Munchen

                  Comment by jrizoli — December 31, 2016 @ 9:52 am

    • Well, Chlole, it appears your comments are mere ramblings of someone who has taken “one toke over the line” too many. (Shouldn’t get high and write.) The hoax didn’t happen. There was no mandate to exterminate. Had there been, with the ultra-efficiency of the Germans, there truly would NOT have been a jew left in the occupied Reich. But just look at the world stats, where more jews existed AFTER the war than before and those who are collecting reparations. I don’t know, maybe they just WERE NOT MURDERED IN MASS or maybe they spontaneously spring out of pods. There may have been a motive (like the other 109 countries) for permanently dealing with the jews, but the facilities, the ‘murder weapons’ would not sustain such an action. I think it’s just morbid jewish wishful thinking.

      Comment by Diane King — December 9, 2016 @ 10:38 am

      • Another very mature commentator here. This one sees visions with ‘lines’ and drugs. The other part of your comment has no arguments, nothing at all. It is one ‘what if’, but ‘what ifs’ is not serious historical debate. If you were a decent commentator, you should first had checked and don’t say baseless things, I mean nonsense like ‘more jews existed AFTER the war than before’. Check country by country and you’ll see. First learn the facts, then check your sources, and THEN you should comment. Otherwise, there’s no value in what you say.

        Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 9, 2016 @ 11:16 am

      • Diane wrote “Well, Chlole, it appears your comments are mere ramblings of someone who has taken “one toke over the line” too many. (Shouldn’t get high and write.)”

        Diane, having read most of your ramblings, I have often wondered which hallucinogenic drug you indulge in.

        Comment by Anonymouse — December 12, 2016 @ 2:05 pm

  8. Jeff….there is true history and Jew history…you obviously like the Jew history.
    Just to sum the article up….The JEWS run everything! They have weaseled their way into all commerce and control the banking system that pays for the wars going on everywhere…..They win no matter what the outcome of the war is because the money loaned by the Jew bankers has to be paid back by the winners and losers….problem is WE the people are the ones dishing out the money in the end.
    When you can actually read a website like this Alt History one and get the whole story from the Jews beginning until now is something that we have to be very happy about.
    I’m sure the Jews are working up their “HATE” legislation to stop this information and believe it or not have actually started in California passing laws that make criticism of the Jews, Holocaust a crime….
    https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2016/12/02/anti-semitism-awareness-bill-passes-senate

    It will be interesting where that will go considering our Constitution rights to Free speech.

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — December 8, 2016 @ 9:01 am

  9. Jews who “refused” to leave Germany did so out of any or several of many reasons, including: (a) they couldn’t find another country to let them immigrate; (b) leaving Germany would entail forfeiting a great deal of their wealth; (c) they correctly anticipated that conditions for them in Germany would NOT be as bad as propagandists have since told us they were. Many thousands of them “survived,” many quite comfortably, both outside and inside concentration camps.

    Many of the casualties noted in concentration camps were not Jewish and of those that were, most were not German.

    Comment by Jett Rucker — December 8, 2016 @ 8:40 am

  10. I always love the “Judea declared war on Germany” canard that deniers toss out. It was one newspaper.

    Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 8, 2016 @ 7:24 am

    • You wrote: “It was one newspaper [that wrote “Judea declared war on Germany]

      http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

      So you think that the Jews were innocent because they only published this in ONE newspaper?

      The poor innocent Jews! They never did anything wrong in the entire history of the world. It was all the fault of the Germans because they didn’t worship Jews enough.

      Comment by furtherglory — December 8, 2016 @ 7:36 am

      • The leader of the world wide Jewish boycott on German goods Samuel Untermyer called the anti-German boycott a “holy war” against Germany. It was not an eccentric isolated title in a newspaper as Jewish supremacists now claim. The word ‘war’ was on the lips of every boycott leader agitating against Germany at that time. A world wide boycott on the goods from a country whose economy was so heavily based on exports as Germany, amounted to a policy of starvation, a war on the German people. In July 1933, Hitler even invited Untermyer to come in Berlin to talk to him but Untermyer declined the invitation because he didn’t care about German Jews. It’s crucial to understand that the boycott on German goods was initiated and led by Zionist leaders. The idea was not to improve the lot of German Jews. The real intent was the very opposite. The Zionists leading the anti-German boycott intended to ostracize the most assimilated Jewry in Europe in order to demonstrate the correctness of their theories on the Jewish problem and on the need for a Jewish national homeland in Palestine. The main foe of Zionism at that time was Assimilationism and the Nazi retaliatory actions were a great demonstration against assimilation. At the World Zionist Congress of 1933, the world leader of Zionism Nahum Sokolow stated that “the falsehood of assimilation is proven” and called the Jews who were not yet Zionists “sleepwalkers.” The leaders of some non-Zionist Jewish organizations in Germany even asked the anti-German agitators in America and Britain to stop their actions because such actions were detrimental to the well-being and status of their brethren in Germany. But the anti-German agitators abroad just refused and even did the exact opposite because the uprooting of German Jewry was their real goal at that critical time in the history of Zionism. The trick was very successful: the number of Jews living in Palestine doubled between 1933 and 1939.

        Comment by hermie — December 9, 2016 @ 9:05 pm

    • You wrote: “It was one newspaper”

      I have added two photos of the newspapers that published photos of the Jews.

      Comment by furtherglory — December 8, 2016 @ 7:48 am

    • WORLD WIDE.

      Comment by Diane King — December 9, 2016 @ 10:40 am

  11. Thank you so much for putting that link into this website that is a terrific article and I’m reading through it right now it’s taking me a day or two I hope others here will read it they’ll will soon understand how everything falls into place.
    I’m looking to print it out into a book form.

    JR
    Holocaustiansbooks.com
    IHR.ORG
    VHO.ORG
    CODOH.COM
    CCFIILE.COM

    Comment by jrizoli — December 8, 2016 @ 7:19 am

  12. That’s a fascinating bit of fiction you posted.

    Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 8, 2016 @ 7:18 am

    • You wrote: “That’s a fascinating bit of fiction you posted.”

      Could you direct me to a similar article which tells the truth about this subject?

      You have made a career out of disputing every word that I write. What is the truth about this subject?

      Comment by furtherglory — December 8, 2016 @ 7:25 am

      • “Could you direct me to a similar article which tells the truth about this subject?”

        Sure, this sums it up nicely:

        “Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:09 pm

        In a faraway time and long ago place, been-there claimed that historians have ignored the “boycott” controversies of 1933. I quoted from Saul Friedlander’s book to show him an important, recent example of why he was wrong. Now comes David Cesarani in his new book – with an extended and very interesting discussion of the topic.

        Cesarani takes the position that the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses on 1 April 1933 was indeed the regime’s reaction to mounting international outcry against the Nazi government’s Jewish policy. The Nazi – and denier – argument is that “atrocity propaganda,” fomented by Jews, proliferated in foreign countries, and Germany had every right, even a duty, to do something about it and bring their adversaries to heel. For the Nazis, the American and British campaigns against the German government’s policies and actions became proof of the existence and power of “international Jewry.” This is the same proposition to which been-there has dedicated two of the longest threads in RODOH’s history. Let’s look at this, then, from Cesarani’s point of view (an earlier discussion of the 1933 boycott is found starting here and running for half a dozen or so pages at RODOH).

        Pre-1933 background

        Cesarani explains that the so-called boycott of Jewish businesses was not a new weapon for the Nazis in spring 1933 but rather a tactic that the SA had deployed at earlier times. For example, following the September 1930 elections, “Nazi gangs vandalized the Wertheim and Teitz department stores in Berlin and attacked Jewish shops along the Kurfürstendamm, the main shopping street of central Berlin. . . . Wherever they gained a foothold, [the Nazis] incited local people to cease buying from Jewish shops or dealing with Jews. On the eve of the Jewish New Year, 12 September 1931, 1,000 storm troopers again rioted along the Kurfürstendamm, assaulting anyone who they thought looked Jewish.” (pp 23-24) Cesarani describes a Nazi riot of late January 1933 in which 15,000 SA-men smashed the KPD headquarters – shouting “We {!#%@} on the Jew republic . . . We {!#%@} on freedom.” (p 29) So, with events like there in mind, let’s dispense with the absurd denier argument that the Nazi boycott tactic was nothing more than a response to a Jewish declaration of war, supposedly made on 24 March 1933, on the Nazi government (the oft-cited “Judea Declares War on Germany” article in the London Daily Express, which in fact described campaigns in the US and Britain to boycott German goods in response to Nazi pressures on German Jews).

        That said, the events of March-April 1933 need closer examination.

        Early days after the Machtergreifung and following the election of 5 March 1933

        The March election was conducted in an extremely fraught environment, as the German government took extraordinary measures following the Reichstag fire. Already the day following the fire, Hindenburg suspended civil rights. The SA established makeshift camps (Konzentrationslager, or KLs) for opponents or suspected opponents of the Nazis and the new government; brown shirt squads raided bars and cafés where leftists and Jews hung out. The KPD was outlawed and the SPD harassed. After the election (the Nazis failed to win a majority despite their terror tactics), “party activists turned on the Jews. From early March a rash of local boycotts spread across the country. (pp 36-37). Note the timing of these assaults: from early March, immediately after the election, weeks before the so-called Jewish declaration of war against Germany so beloved by deniers.

        Cesarani explains that “These actions were not centrally planned or coordinated, but they stemmed from the well-honed Nazi practice of using intimidation to drive a wedge between Jews and non-Jews.” SA units and local governments took matters into their own hands and “began taking measures against Jews.” (p 37) Again, on 6 March, the SA attacked shoppers on the Kurfürstendamm, leaving many bloodied. The next day gangs set the synagogue in Königsberg on fire, “and two days after the, Jewish-owned stores.” Stores in other cities were defaced or vandalized, including large-scale attacks in Breslau, where Jews in court buildings (lawyers and judges) were targeted. (p 38)

        Reactions to Nazi anti-Jewish actions – US and Britain

        As the Nazi election terror unfolded, foreign observers reported home on what they were seeing. What was being seen? The British ambassador’s wife wrote in her diary, “All sorts of terrorising of Jews and socialists . . .” The British Foreign Office was informed that something like a “massacre” of the Jews was possible. Cesarani records that in the major city daily newspapers during this period “455 articles and editorials on Hitler and the Jews. . . . Two hundred local newspapers in the USA printed 2,600 pieces on events in Germany.”

        Cesarani writes that in the US and Britain, “the extensive coverage of events led to outrage in Jewish communities.” (p 40) Jewish leaders began meeting and considering what they could do – with the idea of a boycott of German goods gaining currency. But, as been-there was schooled, Cesarani stresses the divisions among Jews and their leaders. In the US, the American Jewish Committee – representing better off, more assimilated, mostly German – preferred “quiet diplomacy” in coordination with the US State Department. Representing Jewish immigrants, who were less better off, the American Jewish Congress, led by Rabbi Stephen Wise, “responded more viscerally”; both trade unions and Zionist organizations promoted a more activist agenda.

        As the bottoms up campaigning gathered headway, with rallies and demonstrations, the American Jewish Committee grew so alarmed that its leaders “condemned boycotts” and other forms of protest and tried to get American diplomats to help calm things with their German counterparts. But the activists went ahead anyway. Wise led a massive rally at Madison Square Garden on 27 March (with speakers including Senator Robert Wagner, two bishops, the mayor of NYC, and Al Smith) – and many 1000s of Jews and their supporters rallied in cites across the US (Cesarani estimates that a million people participated in the protests). It is also during March that Samuel Untermeyer began pressing for an international boycott of Germany (it was not until October, however, that the American Jewish Congress finally endorsed the boycott call).

        According to Cesarani, American Jews were in a “triple bind”: lobbying was failing, radicals saw an opening to gain support, and German Jews hoped that Americans would step back and not inflame the German authorities. (pp 40-41)

        In the Britain, Jewish leaders across the spectrum, fearful of antagonizing the Nazis and putting moderates in the government in a difficult spot, favored behind the scenes pressure and careful diplomacy. On 21 March they stated their opposition to street protests. But the bottoms up campaign surged forward in Britain as in the US – focusing on the boycott idea. The protest movement was especially active in East End of London, and on 24 March (the day the “Judea Declares” headline appeared) 1000s marched from the East End to the German embassy.

        The British ambassador to Germany raised with Neurath the “adverse impact of persistent anti-Jewish attacks” in Britain; Neurath told him that it was Germany which was the victim. (p 42)

        With the international protests continuing, the Nazis began to make plans for their response. On 26 March Göring, convinced of the fantasy of international Jewry, instructed German Jewish leaders to get their counterparts in the US and Britain to put an end to the boycott movement (misreading not only the relationship of German Jews to Jews in other countries but also, as we’ve seen, the nature of the boycott movement, which Jewish leaders had been unable to contain). Still, the Centralverein (central body of German Jews) telegram the American Jewish Committee: “We protest categorically against holding Monday meeting, radio and other demonstrations. We unequivocally demand energetic effort to obtain an end to demonstrations hostile to Germany.” (p 43) So far from stirring trouble and acting in unison with Jews in the US and Britain were German Jewish leaders that they also flew to London to try to get the protests stopped. They failed.

        The Nazi anti-Jewish boycott of a April 1933

        The international campaigns, blunted as they were, outraged the Nazis. Yet in March Hitler opted “to rein in the violence against political opponents and Jews,” prohibiting so-called “individual actions.” (The CV-Zeitung, newspaper of the German Jewish leadership, publicized Hitler’s stance.) (p 43)

        Hitler’s prohibition failed to bring local actions (e.g., regulations against Jews) to a halt. Also, during late March, starting 27 March, Nazi bands went into action, especially in the Ruhr – “in Dortmund shots were fired into the establishment of a Jewish merchant. A hundred Jews were taken into ‘protective custody’ by the SA. The local rabbi and five other Jews were forced to parade through the street in Oberhausen.” (p 38)

        Further, Hitler approved a nationwide boycott of Jewish businesses. He demanded that “international Jewry” stop the protests or the Nazis would proceed with retaliation, using their familiar boycott method. In late March, Goebbels, interpreting the situation through the lens of an international Jewish conspiracy and grossly misunderstanding the course of events, wrote in his diary, “We shall make headway against the foreign lies only if we get our hands on their originators or at least their beneficiaries, those Jews living in Germany. . . . We must, therefore, proceed to a large-scale boycott of all Jewish businesses in Germany. Perhaps the foreign Jews will think better of the matter when their racial comrades in Germany begin to get it in the neck.” (p 44)

        On 27 March, Dresden diarist Victor Klemperer – a converted Jew married to a Christian woman – wrote, “The government is in hot water. ‘Atrocity propaganda’ abroad because of its Jewish campaign.” Klemperer perceived the logic of Hitler’s boycott: “We are hostages.” (p 45)

        James McDonald, an American active in building support for the League of Nations, met with Putzi Hanfstaengl, an early confidant to Hitler, to convey to the Nazis the divisions among Jewish constituencies and that the protest campaign was not a Jewish invention but had broad support. Hanfstaengl wouldn’t have it, telling McDonald that Hitler had declared that “we are not afraid of international Jewry. The Jews must be crushed. Their fellows abroad played into our hands.” (p 45) Schacht also rebuffed an appeal from McDonald.

        In the last days of March, there was “violence against Jews” at “an unprecedented pitch.” Jews were seized from apartments, Jewish shop windows were smashed, there was a murder of a Jewish shop owner in Straubing, and in Cologne Jewish lawyers were kept from going toward.

        At the last hour, the US tried intervening officially – but it was too late. However, responding to international reactions, Hitler had tamped down the boycott plans, curtailing it to a single day and enjoining the SA to keep things orderly. The boycott met with divided response among Germans, many of them uneasy with the tactic and the brutish violence of the SA.

        Conclusion

        Cesarani understands the boycott as a Nazi response to perceived threats from world-wide Jewry – within the Nazi frame of reference (a belief in a world-wide Jewish conspiracy and an idea of a sustained Jewish threat to Germany( and employing conventional Nazi techniques: “In Nazi thinking, the boycott was a rational response to an adversarial situation, the first foreign policy crisis they faced in office. But no diplomats or politicians at the time could grasp this.” (p 44) In Nazi thinking, the overseas campaigns proved the clout of international Jewry – and the boycott call, leveraging economic power, underscored the Jewish danger. “The reality – as the Nazis saw it – was a showdown between them and international Jewry.” (p 45) However, of course, “close scrutiny of the Jewish response in February and March 1933 would have revealed only division and dissonance. There was no chorus of ‘international Jewry.’ . . . [The Nazis] misread Jewish pluralism and weakness as a sign of unity and strength.” (p 43) Finally, says Cesarani, it didn’t “matter for the moment if ordinary Germans were ambivalent: the NSDAP was still drawing the lines between ‘them’ and ‘us,’ demonstrating that ‘they were now fair game.” ( p 49)

        To sum this up, international Jewish groups reacted to local Nazi actions not sanctioned but not stopped by the Nazi Government in Berlin. This boycott arranged internationally was controversial among some Jewish groups in the US and Great Britain but they bowed to pressure from radical Jewish groups even after GERMAN Jews requested that the boycott not happen.

        But, really, only a child believes that a boycott is a declaration of war…well, deluded deniers also believe this as well.

        Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — December 8, 2016 @ 10:18 am

        • Quick summary of WW2 lets begin in 1933

          The Jewish Boycott of Germany…
          The German Jews were not happy with what their Jew counterparts in the US wanted to do in regards to these boycotts of German goods because they knew the collateral damage from it would fall upon them and it did in spades…
          I all came down to what the Zionist plan was….they wanted all the Jews to move to Palestine because that is where the Zionist believed God wanted them to be to set up their Kingdom to rule over the world and use the goyim as their slaves.
          So the Zionist fanatic Jews sold out the nominally religious Jews to Hitler, by basically saying to Hitler do what you want with them because they aren’t following our religious fanatical views to move to Palestine…in simpler words F…you German Jews and good luck in Germany snicker, snicker……..Lesson to learn…Even Jews have to answer to more powerful Jews. It all comes down to the Jewish religion and what the game plan was from the beginning with the Zionist.

          It actually started around WW1 with the Balfour Declaration….
          The Balfour Declaration was set in place during WW1 it was payment of ( Palestine) being given to the Zionist by the British for getting the US into the war. ….but it didn’t see its fulfillment until much later when Israel was actually set up as a State in 1948 as a homeland for the Zionist Jews. The Zionist got what they wanted in spite of the time it took them, using their own people as bait for Hitler. Of course Hitler was happy to go along with the Zionist because he wanted the Jews out of Germany because of their parasitic conniving ways and debauched life style. Of course things didn’t work out as planned and Hitler had to put the Jews in the camps using them as slave labor until the time came to expel them when he won the war….
          As things would work out that didn’t happen either as planned and the Jews used their time in the camps to plot the next chapter of their lives by inventing the Holohoax story to now make it look like Hitler was the bad guy killing them by the millions in fake gas chambers using bug spray or whatever other silly thing they could say was used……and really forgetting how they actually ended up in the camps in the first place…… They were sold out by their own brothers and sisters. I guess they didn’t realize with the Jews you lose…..and the Jews are definitely not man enough to admit what happened to them. Instead of blaming the Zionist for whatever ways they suffered…they blame Hitler.

          JR

          Comment by jrizoli — December 8, 2016 @ 12:56 pm

          • – How do we know that the holes in the roofs of the gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau, through which the Zyklon-B was poured, existed?
            Contemporary photographs and perpetrator and survivor eyewitness testimony document the existence of the holes in the roof. Further, a rigorous and authorized forensic study in 2000 has located and proved beyond doubt that they existed.
            https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab8-holes-roofs/

            – How do we know that the wire-mesh introduction columns used to pour the Zyklon-B into the gas chambers at Auschwitz-Birkenau existed?
            The wire-mesh introduction columns cannot be found today because they were dismantled and discarded before the cremas/gas chambers buildings were blown up by the Germans in their attempt to erase the evidence of genocide. However, their existence and use is confirmed by multiple survivor and perpetrator eyewitness accounts as well as by a surviving German document that lists them in inventory.
            https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab9-wire-mesh-columns/

            – How do we know that the gas chamber in Auschwitz I (the Main Camp) is authentic and not a fake created for tourists?
            There is physical evidence that Crema 1 was used as a gas chamber.
            A rigorously conducted and authorized forensic study of the gas chambers done in 2000 found physical and photographic evidence of five holes that had been in the roof of Crema/Gas Chamber 1 and had since been sealed up. In the restoration four of the holes were re-opened and capped with wooden chimneys as they had been when Crema 1 was a gas chamber. Adam Zlobnicki recalled the restoration of the holes in the roof: “Those who reconstructed them had an easy task because the erstwhile introduction holes had distinct traces . . . Thus, they constructed in the same places again the openings for the little chimneys.” The fifth hole was not reopened
            https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab10-gas-chamber-fake/

            – How do we know what the capacities of the cremation ovens at Auschwitz-Birkenau were?
            There is an authentic letter from Karl Bischoff, the head of the Central Building Administration in Auschwitz-Birkenau, to Hans Kammler in Berlin, which summarized the cremation capacity for the 52 muffles in Auschwitz-Birkenau for a 24-hour period.
            https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab3-german-documents-ovens/

            – How we know that some 900,000 Jews were murdered in the gas chambers without their number being listed in German records?
            The Holocaust deniers’ assertion that the Death Books reflect the total number of deaths in Auschwitz-Birkenau is false. The Death Books do not reflect the nearly 900,000 Jews who were murdered upon arrival at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Sometimes these people were not even properly counted, much less registered or phony death certificates created. Only those people who were inducted into the slave labor pool (including some 230,000 Jews) were given numbers and only these prisoners were listed in the death certificates in the Death Books.
            https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab2-death-books/

            – How do we know that open-air burning pits for cremating the bodies of the Jews were used in Auschwitz-Birkenau?
            There is German perpetrator and survivor eyewitness testimony about the existence of burning pits at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Further, aerial and ground photographs document the use of the burning pits beyond any doubt.
            https://www.hdot.org/debunking-denial/ab6-open-air-burning/

            Comment by Κλέων Ι. — December 11, 2016 @ 2:03 am


RSS feed for comments on this post.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s

Blog at WordPress.com.

%d bloggers like this: