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December 30, 2016

Hitler’s infamous dinner on January 25, 1942

Filed under: Germany, movies, TV shows, Uncategorized, World War II — furtherglory @ 4:52 pm

I have a degree in Journalism from the University of Missouri.  While I was at the University, I learned that every story has two sides, and that both sides must be told.  While I do sometimes editorialize — in my blog post today, I want to provide an example of journalistic writing, which presents both sides of the story.

In modern times, in the context of the Holocaust, this method of covering a story is known as Holocaust denial, and you can go to jail for Holocaust denial in a rapidly growing number of countries.

In an earlier blog post I talked about a television show entitled “Hitler:The Monster”.  Among other things, in the older blog post, I talked about the dramatization of a dinner meeting, which allegedly took place on Jan 23, 1943.  On the AHC program, they make it sound like this meeting is the smoking gun, in which Hitler gave his blessing for mass murder.

David Irving recalls a meeting on Jan 25th 1942, that was attended by Himmler, Lammers, and Colonel Hans Zeitzler. The following quote is from page 496 in the 2002 version of David Irving’s book entitled “Hitler’s War” [according to Heinrich Heim’s record].

Here are the words spoken by Hitler at the infamous dinner:

Begin quote

If I extract the Jew today our citizens get uneasy: “what’s happening to him, then?” But did these same people care one hoot what happened to the Germans who had to emigrate? We’ve got to get it over fast; it’s no better to pull a tooth a bit at a time over three months — once it’s out, the agony is over. The Jew’s got to get out of Europe. Otherwise we will never reach a European consensus. He’s the worst troublemaker, every where. And really: am I not in fact terrifically humane?   During the papal tyranny in Rome the Jews were maltreated. Up to 1830 they hounded 8 Jews through the city on asses every year.  All I say “He’s got to get out”. If he goes for a Burton [kaputt geht] in the process, I can’t help it. I do see one thing however: their absolute elimination [absolute Austottung] if they won’t leave willingly.

End quote

The American Heroes Channel offers a different version, insinuating that it was at this fateful dinner that Hitler ordered the Holocaust verbally, or at least blessed it.  The show cuts to a dinner scene, while sinister violin music plays.

Begin quote from the show

The announcer says, January 23rd 1942, Hitler invites SS chief Himmler and other senior aids for a quiet meal.  According to his staffs official memos, private moments like this provided the Fuhrer with the perfect opportunity to give the Holocaust his blessing without issuing a direct order.

Robert Citino Continues, saying that

“They are having a fine meal, immaculate table cloth, everything just a so very civilized encounter in which the conversation turns as it often does with Hitler to the Jews.”

Guy Walters Continues, saying that

“The talk is chilling, its not bureaucratic, but Hitler is saying things like, if I had to say to the Jews, could you just go voluntarily and they said they didn’t want to then I would see no other option than extermination.”

Robert Citino continues, saying that

“Notice here how Hitler doesn’t tell anyone to do something specific, he allows those around the table to draw their own conclusion.”

End Quote from show.

The show then goes on to talk about the Wannsee conference, but out of chronological order.   I have blogged about the Wannsee conference several times:  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/wannsee-conference/

Could Hitler have only blessed the Holocaust, AFTER the Wannsee conference, not before it?

To quote, out of context, a famous comment from the show, “there were so many parts of it that just didn’t add up.”

3 Comments »

  1. Furtherglory wrote: “David Irving recalls a meeting on Jan 25th 1943”

    Wasn’t it rather on January 25, 1942?

    Comment by hermie — December 31, 2016 @ 1:37 am

    • hermie wrote:”Wasn’t it rather on January 25, 1942?”

      You are correct. I have updated my blog post accordingly. Note that there is still the problem that the meeting Irving writes about and the meeting on the show have dates two days apart. I still believe that they are talking about the same meeting.

      Comment by furtherglory — December 31, 2016 @ 4:52 am

  2. Netanyahu does NOT intend to exterminate every Arab in Israel/Palestine. He ONLY intends to remove/deport them.

    NAKBA DENIAL! JAIL HIM!

    Comment by Jett Rucker — December 30, 2016 @ 5:44 pm


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