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March 20, 2017

The late Elie Wiesel is back in the news as a Holocaust victim

Filed under: Holocaust, Uncategorized — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 9:57 am

I wrote about Elie Wiesel on my website, before I became a Holocaust denier: https://www.scrapbookpages.com/Buchenwald/Liberation2.html

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According to this news article, Elie Wiesel is back in the news as a Holocaust victim, in spite of the fact that he finally admitted, on his death bed, that he was never in any concentration camp. http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/15167923.Sharing_the_lessons_from_Auschwitz___a_great_responsibility_on_young_shoulders/

The news article begins with the following quote:

Begin quote

“HAND in hand we followed the crowd. An SS non-commissioned officer came to meet us, a truncheon in his hand.

“He gave the order: ‘Men to the left. Women to the right.’

“Eight words spoken quietly, indifferently, without emotion. Eight short, simple words.

“Yet that was the moment when I parted from my mother.

“I had not time to think, but already I felt the pressure of my father’s hand: we were alone.”

Those are the haunting words of Elie Wiesel, a survivor of the Holocaust who, as a young boy, was taken to the notorious Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and death camp.

End quote

The news article continues with this quote:

Begin quote

One million Jews, 64,000 Poles, 21,000 Sinti and Roma, 15,000 Soviet prisoners of war and around 12,000 victims of other groups – murdered.

Who were these people? How did such a crime against humanity happen? How many others had to turn their heads or willingly collaborate in the process? And how do we ensure that in the future, the mantra ‘never again’ becomes more than just words?

These were just some of the questions going through the minds of 200 students from across the South West last month as they stood on the same spot where Elie Wiesel had been so cruelly parted from his mother more than 70 years ago.

End quote

Are there no fact checkers on newspapers any more? My first job on a newspaper, after I had graduated from Journalism school, was to check the facts in every news story before the paper went to press.

It was my job to yell “Stop the press” if I spotted a serious error. This is a serious error because Elie Wiesel finally admitted, just before he died, that he was never in any camp. He was hiding out in his home town, when the Jews were sent to camps.

I wrote this blog post about Elie Wiesel and his lack of a tattoo: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2017/02/07/did-the-late-elie-wiesel-have-a-concentration-camp-tattoo-or-not/

Elie always refused to show his non-existent  tattoo. The lack of a tattoo is proof that he was never in a camp.

112 Comments »

  1. Let me start with the so called death bed confession. Elie was too sick to speak at the end. The cancer had robbed him of all energy and he had no energy left to speak. Anymore questions?

    Comment by Kathleen Stiver — March 21, 2017 @ 11:19 pm

  2. your little stunt may have been entertaining. But let’s not lose perspective hmm. You’ve got nothing to support your claim. I’m waiting in the wings and no one disrespects Elie and gets away with it. I hope you’re ready denier. Because the show starts now and you’ll be on your knees begging for mercy when I’m through with you.

    Comment by Kathleen Stiver — March 21, 2017 @ 11:18 pm

    • Kikes’ ludicrous bullying attempt. Already succeeded in scaring anybody this way?

      Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 12:45 am

    • You’ve got nothing to support your claim.

      Presumably your “claim” is that Wiesel had a tattoo — if so, please provide clear, unmistakable evidence of that — eg a foto, where the tattoo is clearly visible and identifiable as such — it would be nice if the number could be read — best would be if it could be clearly seen to be an Auschwitz tattoo.

      Then perhaps you can answer this question: Why didn’t Wiesel end the controversy when he was alive by simply showing his tattoo? — I mean, other ‘survivors’ proudly do that, I’m sure many every time they speak — so why not Wiesel?

      See the problem for rational people — as opposed to those who reflexively believe — is that there is no clear evidence that Wiesel had a tattoo — he never really showed it — which as I said leads to the suspicion that he did not have one, and he was hiding that fact — this would be an obvious explanation for his refusal to simply show his tattoo.

      Comment by eah — March 22, 2017 @ 5:04 am

    • Kathleen Stiver wrote: “Because the show starts now”

      And now is visibly also when the show ends, Kat. 😉

      Comment by hermie — March 23, 2017 @ 6:55 am

  3. Authentic pics of Elie Wiesel’s left arm unambiguously show that he had no tattoo. Period.

    But don’t worry. His 2-cent childish moral lessons remain valid nevertheless. At least they do if you have a room-temperature IQ…

    Comment by hermie — March 21, 2017 @ 6:08 am

    • “Authentic pics of Elie Wiesel’s left arm unambiguously show that he had no tattoo. Period.”

      Um, Captain Dumbass, that’s the wrong spot on the arm.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 6:37 am

      • The wrong spot? Or the biased blind eye of the fanatic worshiper, Sergeant Moron…

        Comment by hermie — March 21, 2017 @ 6:46 am

        • “The wrong spot? Or the biased blind eye of the fanatic worshiper, Sergeant Moron…”

          No, Captain Dumbass. Your picture focuses on his elbow. The tattoo is on his left forearm.

          Hhhhhmmmm, I wonder why deniers focus on the elbow….

          Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 6:55 am

          • I wonder why deniers focus on the elbow

            Actually, intellectually honest “deniers”, those with some intelligence (you possess neither quality), focus on the facts that 1) fotos of Wiesel do not demonstrate clearly and umistakably that he has a tattoo (let alone an Auschwitz tattoo, assuming it could be distinguished), and 2) when he was alive, he could have easily put the controversy to rest by showing his tattoo, as other ‘survivors’ proudly do — but he chose not to do that.

            The latter point — his refusal to do something so simple — naturally gives rise in the rational mind (“) to the strong suspicion that he had something to hide — eg the fact that he had no tattoo.

            Comment by eah — March 21, 2017 @ 7:14 am

            • “Actually, intellectually honest “deniers”,”

              There are no “intellectually honest deniers,” you are living proof.

              “those with some intelligence”

              Again, doesn’t exist.

              “(you possess neither quality)”

              Bite me, fucktard.

              focus on the facts that 1) fotos of Wiesel do not demonstrate clearly and umistakably that he has a tattoo (let alone an Auschwitz tattoo, assuming it could be distinguished),”

              I just posted two “fotos” that show a tattoo. It’s small and faded but it is there.

              “and 2) when he was alive, he could have easily put the controversy to rest by showing his tattoo, as other ‘survivors’ proudly do — but he chose not to do that.”

              He was under no obligation to do so.

              “The latter point — his refusal to do something so simple — naturally gives rise in the rational mind (“)”

              Rational deniers don’t exist. Their refusal to believe in historical facts proves it.

              “to the strong suspicion that he had something to hide — eg the fact that he had no tattoo.”

              Except that I just posted two photos showing that he had a tattoo. If you can’t believe your own eyes then you prove you are not rational.

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 7:32 am

              • You wrote: “Rational deniers don’t exist. Their refusal to believe in historical facts proves it.”

                I believe that I am a “rational denier”. I was not born a denier; I became a denier after visiting Auschwitz 3 times and reading many books about the Holocaust, including the book entitled “Night” by Elie Wiesel.

                I wrote the following on my website before I became a denier, although I was in the process of becoming a denier when I started my website in 1998. Read this page of my website and see if you can figure out what started me on the road to denial.
                http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/HungarianJews4.html

                Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 7:51 am

                • I am replying to my own comment in order to add a link on my kosher website, which tells the story of Irene Zisblatt: http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/History/Articles/IreneZisblatt.html

                  Irene is another famous Holocaust liar, comparable to Elie Wiesel. My point is that these two famous liars Elie and Irene are believed by True Believer, although their stories are lies.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 8:11 am

                • “Irene is another famous Holocaust liar, comparable to Elie Wiesel. My point is that these two famous liars Elie and Irene are believed by True Believer, although their stories are lies.”

                  I’m a “True Believer.” Are you saying that all “True Believers” believe everything that Elie and Irene say?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 8:20 am

                • You wrote: “I’m a “True Believer.” Are you saying that all “True Believers” believe everything that Elie and Irene say?”

                  Yes, I am saying that ALL True Believers believe what Elie and Irene say. If a True Believer does not believe what Elie and Irene say, that means that they are a skeptic, not a True Believer. Skeptics frequently become deniers.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 9:48 am

                • “Yes, I am saying that ALL True Believers believe what Elie and Irene say. If a True Believer does not believe what Elie and Irene say, that means that they are a skeptic, not a True Believer. Skeptics frequently become deniers.”

                  Not really. I don’t just look at what survivors say. I look at the history involved. I don’t have to believe every survivor.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 10:00 am

                • You wrote: “I don’t just look at what survivors say. I look at the history involved.”

                  There are two versions of the history of World War II: the Jewish version which you must believe in 20 countries now, if you don’t want to go to prison for 5 years or more, and the Holocaust denier version.

                  I started out as a True Believer of the Jewish version of history, but then I started reading the Denier version of history and I became a denier myself.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 10:15 am

                • You wrote: “You wrote: “I don’t just look at what survivors say. I look at the history involved.”
                  You need to look at both sides of history: the Jewish version and the non-Jewish version. Start by reading the non-Jewish side of History, as written by these two heretics.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Mattogno

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germar_Rudolf

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 10:27 am

                • “You need to look at both sides of history: the Jewish version and the non-Jewish version. Start by reading the non-Jewish side of History, as written by these two heretics.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Mattogno

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germar_Rudolf

                  I have.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 10:34 am

                • “There are two versions of the history of World War II: the Jewish version which you must believe in 20 countries now, if you don’t want to go to prison for 5 years or more, and the Holocaust denier version.”

                  No, there is simply history. There is what actually happened and what deniers are trying to distort.

                  “I started out as a True Believer of the Jewish version of history, but then I started reading the Denier version of history and I became a denier myself.”

                  OK.
                  I read what denier’s call “history” as well. Too many holes that did not look at the actual history involved.

                  Deniers believe that all of this happened in some sort of vacuum, the destruction of the Jews. It does not take into account what was happening militarily at the time, it does not take into account which Jews died and which ones lived, it does not look at how labor and food supplies led to the destruction of the Jews and, most importantly, it cannot prove where the Jews went if they did not die.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 10:29 am

                • You wrote: “No, there is simply history. There is what actually happened and what deniers are trying to distort.”

                  You win. I am through answering you. Your mind is made up and you are not going to change. I guess I’ll just go out and eat worms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRzhflMkGLg

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 10:36 am

                • I am replying to my own comment to add some information about Elie Wiesel. I believe that Elie and his family went into hiding in his home town, during World War II, and were never sent to any camp. The house where Elie and his family hid during the war is shown at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/07/05/the-childhood-home-of-elie-the-wiesel/ Note that the basement of the house was converted into a hiding place.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 12:48 pm

          • BD wrote: “No, Captain Dumbass. Your picture focuses on his elbow.”

            Follow up a guy’s arm from his elbow to his hand and you’ll very probably find something called a forearm somewhere in the middle, Professor Cross-Section. And if you don’t, it means that you’re looking at a guy whose mother swallowed Thalidomide pills like mint pastilles during her pregnancy.

            Comment by hermie — March 21, 2017 @ 9:06 am

            • Tattoos fade over time, especially crude tattoos:

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 5:55 pm

              • Oh wow look an arm — which is not even identifiable as belonging to Wiesel — with some grayish/brownish blotches on it — blotches/discolorations which clearly look nothing like a tattoo — no numbers visible/readable at all — just blotches that look like the sunspots most older people have — which come in different colors, textures, sizes, shapes, etc.

                Go away you absurd idiotic troll.

                Comment by eah — March 22, 2017 @ 5:23 am

                • I didn’t say it was Eli Wiesel, fucktard. It’s an example of a faded tattoo.
                  Yeah, sunspots look like faded tattoos. Christ, how do function in your everyday life?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 7:12 am

            • I watched the video. I then went to YouTube to see if I can see more than just a six minute edited version.
              I couldn’t find the special, YouTube removed it.

              I then got distracted by an 81-year-old guy shredding on a guitar.

              😂

              I don’t trust a video edited by deniers. I’ve seen enough “Eric Hunt Productions” to know better (ironically, Eric’s no longer a denier). Want to prove your point? Get me a copy of the whole special and let me see it in it’s entirety. You can just post it here.

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 7:10 pm

              • BD wrote: “Get me a copy of the whole special and let me see it in it’s entirety. ”

                Would be a waste of time. 60 or 600 minutes of video would make no difference. Fanatical believers are the most blind creatures in this world. Only their own delusions are visible to them. Already wasted enough time with various Holo-cranks…

                Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 12:21 am

                • “Would be a waste of time. 60 or 600 minutes of video would make no difference. Fanatical believers are the most blind creatures in this world. Only their own delusions are visible to them. Already wasted enough time with various Holo-cranks…”

                  In other words, all you have is this heavily edited video. Got it.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 7:25 am

                • BD wrote: “In other words, all you have is this heavily edited video.”

                  That’s still 6 minutes more than your 2 or 3 dubious pics of Wiesel’s alleged tattoo. 😉

                  I didn’t look for the full video. Don’t even know if it’s available online. I have other things to do than waste my time with people who don’t want to see anyway.

                  Honestly, your “heavily edited video” evasion is one of your most pathetic excuses ever. Stop ridiculing yourself.

                  Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 9:12 am

                • “this heavily edited video.”

                  “That’s still 6 minutes more than your 2 or 3 dubious pics of Wiesel’s alleged tattoo. ;-)”

                  Heavily edited by deniers, therefore, useless. My pictures show a tattoo.

                  “I didn’t look for the full video.”

                  Of course not. You are quite happy with edited version because it proves your warped version. I looked for it because I wanted to see the whole special to determine if Wiesel actually has a tattoo.

                  “Don’t even know if it’s available online.”

                  Not surprised.

                  “I have other things to do than waste my time with people who don’t want to see anyway.”

                  Maybe you should come to Skeptics and prove to us where we are wrong. But you won’t because you are a chickenshit. Just like every denier I meet.

                  “Honestly, your ”heavily edited video” evasion is one of your most pathetic excuses ever. Stop ridiculing yourself”

                  Come and show me where I’m wrong. But you won’t.
                  I, at least, post on denier blogs and forums. You don’t have the guts to leave your echo chamber.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 9:42 am

                • BD wrote: “Heavily edited by deniers, therefore, useless.”

                  Heavily unsourced and edited by believers, therefore, laughable.

                  BD wrote: “My pictures show a tattoo”

                  Don’t make me laugh. 2 pics don’t even make one second of a video. 2 photos will never beat thousands of pics in a 7-minute video. Of course.

                  BD wrote: “Of course not. You are quite happy with edited version because it proves your warped version.”

                  Haven’t I already wasted enough time with you in the past?!?

                  BD wrote: “I looked for it because I wanted to see the whole special to determine if Wiesel actually has a tattoo.”

                  And you found nothing. Nice waste of time. See now? 😉

                  BD wrote: “Maybe you should come to Skeptics and prove to us where we are wrong.”

                  Finally. I thought you would never invite me on skeptics.

                  BD wrote: “But you won’t because you are a chickenshit. Just like every denier I meet.”

                  No, I won’t because I’ve already debated enough with self-proclaimed skeptics and the like. I can’t believe that I’ve wasted so many hours of my life in such fruitless discussions. I kind of moved to other stuff now.

                  BD wrote: “Come and show me where I’m wrong. But you won’t. I, at least, post on denier blogs and forums. You don’t have the guts to leave your echo chamber.”

                  Haven’t I argued with you and other exterminationists for months and even years??? I didn’t hear much echo.

                  Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 4:00 pm

                • “BD wrote: ”Heavily edited by deniers, therefore, useless.”

                  “Heavily unsourced and edited by believers, therefore, laughable.”

                  What’s laughable is that you think your heavily edited video proves anything.

                  BD wrote: ”My pictures show a tattoo”

                  “Don’t make me laugh. 2 pics don’t even make one second of a video. 2 photos will never beat thousands of pics in a 7-minute video. Of course.”

                  7 minutes out of a program that is an hour and half. Why only those 7 minutes?

                  BD wrote: “Of course not. You are quite happy with edited version because it proves your warped version.”

                  “Haven’t I already wasted enough time with you in the past?!?”

                  Yet you still keep engaging me.

                  BD wrote: ”I looked for it because I wanted to see the whole special to determine if Wiesel actually has a tattoo.”

                  “And you found nothing. Nice waste of time. See now? ;-)”

                  No, I couldn’t find the hour and half program. What wasted my time was your silly video.

                  BD wrote: ”Maybe you should come to Skeptics and prove to us where we are wrong.”

                  “Finally. I thought you would never invite me on skeptics.”

                  Now I have. Come show us Believers where we are wrong.

                  BD wrote: ”But you won’t because you are a chickenshit. Just like every denier I meet.”

                  “No, I won’t because I’ve already debated enough with self-proclaimed skeptics and the like.”

                  In other words you can’t defend your cult.

                  “I can’t believe that I’ve wasted so many hours of my life in such fruitless discussions. I kind of moved to other stuff now.”

                  So, again, you can’t defend your cult.

                  BD wrote: ”Come and show me where I’m wrong. But you won’t. I, at least, post on denier blogs and forums. You don’t have the guts to leave your echo chamber.”

                  “Haven’t I argued with you and other exterminationists for months and even years??? I didn’t hear much echo.”

                  What, on a denier blog? That’s easy.

                  But, you won’t come. Just like every denier I encounter. Why is that? Not enough belief in your denier religion?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 4:48 pm

                • BD wrote: “What’s laughable is that you think your heavily edited video proves anything.”

                  Not as laughable as yourself thinking a couple of dubious pics could do the job.

                  BD wrote: ”7 minutes out of a program that is an hour and half. Why only those 7 minutes?”

                  Because that’s still 7 minutes more than your zero minute. 😉

                  BD wrote: “Yet you still keep engaging me.”

                  Most of time, you engage me, not the other way round. Do you want me to stop answering your objections???

                  BD wrote: ”No, I couldn’t find the hour and half program. What wasted my time was your silly video.”

                  I fail to see what is silly in an extract giving ample opportunity to see Wiesel had no Auschwitz tattoo. Do you never use extracts of anything? Do you post 400 pages of text every time you post a quote from a book?

                  BD wrote: ”Now I have. Come show us Believers where we are wrong.”

                  Haven’t I already done that with you countless times on this blog? Would you feel more secure with your friends on your side?

                  BD wrote: ”In other words you can’t defend your cult.”

                  Yeah, that’s why I spent a considerable time doing it with you and others on this blog and in other places…

                  BD wrote: “So, again, you can’t defend your cult.”

                  You’re 46 or 47 years old now. Grow up. It’s time !!

                  BD wrote: ”What, on a denier blog? That’s easy.”

                  On a denier blog or on a believer forum, what’s the difference? Except the different & unbalanced ratio. 15 or 20 people attacking me together would of course consume a much larger part of my time. What do you dislike one-on-one discussions so much? Don’t you find such discussions more balanced and fair than 15 or 20 guys attacking a single guy together? Or perhaps that’s precisely balance and fair play you don’t like.

                  BD wrote: “But, you won’t come. Just like every denier I encounter. Why is that? Not enough belief in your denier religion?”

                  Pathetic silly childishness. Nothing prevents you from fully developing your arguments on this blog. Not my problem that you feel too insecure to debate with me all by yourself and that I kicked your fellow ‘skeptics’ so easily out of here.

                  Comment by hermie — March 23, 2017 @ 6:50 am

                • “BD wrote: ”What’s laughable is that you think your heavily edited video proves anything.”

                  “Not as laughable as yourself thinking a couple of dubious pics could do the job.”

                  Better than the hackjob of a video you provided as “proof.”

                  BD wrote: ”7 minutes out of a program that is an hour and half. Why only those 7 minutes?”

                  “Because that’s still 7 minutes more than your zero minute. ;-)”

                  Let’s see, denier edited video or still photographs.
                  I’ll take photos every time.

                  BD wrote: “Yet you still keep engaging me.”

                  “Most of time, you engage me, not the other way round. Do you want me to stop answering your objections???”

                  No, hermie. You generally start. I answer you, not the other way around.

                  BD wrote: ”No, I couldn’t find the hour and half program. What wasted my time was your silly video.”

                  “I fail to see”

                  Story of your whole life.

                  “what is silly in an extract giving ample opportunity to see Wiesel had no Auschwitz tattoo.”

                  Because I’ve dealt with denier hack jobs before. I don’t trust them so I want the whole video, not some heavily edited version put out by a cult.

                  “Do you never use extracts of anything? Do you post 400 pages of text every time you post a quote from a book?”

                  No, that would be Jim Rizoli. 😂

                  No, but I will copy and paste large relevant tracts, give the name and author and the page. If possible I provide links to relevant sources so that people can see for themselves and not take my word for it.
                  This is why I would expect the video, not a hack job.

                  BD wrote: ”Now I have. Come show us Believers where we are wrong.”

                  “Haven’t I already done that with you countless times on this blog?”

                  What, you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
                  Wow, what an ego. No, you have not, hermie.

                  “Would you feel more secure with your friends on your side?”

                  Do I seem like someone who needs security? I’m really the only non-denier that posts here. I have no problem posting on denier blogs and forums. I’d post on CODOH but for some reason they won’t let me on. I think it’s because I tried to logon as Benjamin Israel.
                  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

                  BD wrote: ”In other words you can’t defend your cult.”

                  “Yeah, that’s why I spent a considerable time doing it with you and others on this blog and in other places…”

                  What other places?

                  BD wrote: ”So, again, you can’t defend your cult.”

                  “You’re 46 or 47 years old now. Grow up. It’s time !!”

                  Nah, never grow up. It’s what keeps me young.

                  BD wrote: ”What, on a denier blog? That’s easy.”

                  “On a denier blog or on a believer forum, what’s the difference? Except the different & unbalanced ratio. 15 or 20 people attacking me together would of course consume a much larger part of my time. What do you dislike one-on-one discussions so much? Don’t you find such discussions more balanced and fair than 15 or 20 guys attacking a single guy together? Or perhaps that’s precisely balance and fair play you don’t like.”

                  That’s funny. So, what do you think happens to me here or when I post on RODOH? I’m willing to defend history against you and whoever else wants to take a shot. I base my reactions on how I’m treated.

                  BD wrote: ”But, you won’t come. Just like every denier I encounter. Why is that? Not enough belief in your denier religion?”

                  “Pathetic silly childishness.”

                  I notice that this a denier reaction when I ask others to join me at Skeptics.

                  ” Nothing prevents you from fully developing your arguments on this blog. Not my problem that you feel too insecure to debate with me all by yourself and that I kicked your fellow ‘skeptics’ so easily out of here.”

                  😂

                  There’s that ego again.

                  No, I prefer forums. We can debate individual topics without cluttering up FG’s comment sections. We go off on tangents that I don’t think she appreciates.

                  As for the others, they got bored and drifted off.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 23, 2017 @ 7:51 am

                • BD wrote: “Better than the hackjob of a video you provided as “proof.””

                  How is that better? Altering a couple of pics is harder than altering 7 minutes of video????

                  BD wrote: ”Let’s see, denier edited video or still photographs. I’ll take photos every time.”

                  So take this pic.

                  For info, techically, videos are just series of photos scrolling at high speed.

                  BD wrote: “No, hermie. You generally start. I answer you, not the other way around.”

                  Not interested in your pissing contests. too old for this shit.

                  BD wrote: ”Story of your whole life.”

                  What a kid !!

                  BD wrote: Because I’ve dealt with denier hack jobs before. I don’t trust them so I want the whole video, not some heavily edited version put out by a cult.”

                  Hilarious when connected with the ridiculous graphic ‘evidence’ for the exterminationist case.

                  BD wrote: “No, that would be Jim Rizoli. ”

                  Of course, you don’t. That’s what extracts are.

                  BD wrote: “No, but I will copy and paste large relevant tracts, give the name and author and the page. If possible I provide links to relevant sources so that people can see for themselves and not take my word for it. This is why I would expect the video, not a hack job.”

                  You don’t know how to get rid of this video, do you? Frankly, a pathetic sight. It’s turning from funny to embarrassing.

                  BD wrote: ”What, you? Wow, what an ego. No, you have not, hermie.”

                  You don’t risk to be proven wrong as long as you keep refusing to try to be proven right. Obviously, the reason why you spent so much time and energy fleeing your due burden of proof and hiding behind the conclusions of the patently-politically-biased Nuremberg mock trials.

                  BD wrote: “Do I seem like someone who needs security?”

                  Yes, you do. Honestly.

                  BD wrote: “I’m really the only non-denier that posts here.”

                  I’d already call your trolling activities on this blog “posting.”

                  BD wrote: “I have no problem posting on denier blogs and forums. I’d post on CODOH but for some reason they won’t let me on. I think it’s because I tried to logon as Benjamin Israel.”

                  Perhaps that’s because they considered your right is in a comedy club.

                  BD wrote: ”What other places?”

                  I don’t plan to make my own tracking even easier that it is.

                  BD wrote: ”Nah, never grow up. It’s what keeps me young.”

                  And ridiculous…

                  BD wrote: ”That’s funny. So, what do you think happens to me here or when I post on RODOH? I’m willing to defend history against you and whoever else wants to take a shot. I base my reactions on how I’m treated.”

                  Isn’t RODOH a forum for both Holocaust believers and Holocaust deniers? You’d better stop conceding you post things on so many blogs and forums if you plan to make people believe you’re not a paid Hasbara troll with a full-time job on the internet. 😉

                  BD wrote: ”No, I prefer forums. We can debate individual topics without cluttering up FG’s comment sections. We go off on tangents that I don’t think she appreciates.”

                  As if a fear spoiling FG’s blog had already prevented you from doing it. C’mon. Not credible for a second.

                  Comment by hermie — March 23, 2017 @ 8:29 am

              • BD wrote: “ironically, Eric’s no longer a denier”

                You look very proud of your war trophy. Seeing you shake it again and again is a very funny sight. The parading braggarts always made me laugh. Failing to be impressive, at least amusing. Better than nothing, I guess. Intimidation and bribery are magic, aren’t they?

                Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 12:38 am

                • “You look very proud of your war trophy.”

                  Well, it was amazing to see Eric’s change of heart. After all, he was the denier video maker, I think only Jim Rizoli can match him.

                  “Seeing you shake it again and again is a very funny sight. The parading braggarts always made me laugh. Failing to be impressive, at least amusing. Better than nothing, I guess. Intimidation and bribery are magic, aren’t they?”

                  You keep telling yourself that.

                  BTW, Eric is very vocal about his change. He’s debated Fritz Berg and is blowing up denier forums like CODOH and RODOH.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 7:31 am

                • BD wrote: “Well, it was amazing to see Eric’s change of heart.”

                  Would be even more amazing if he was able to refute one tenth of one percent of his past revisionist arguments. The reasons supposedly explaining his “change of heart” are ridiculous beyond anything. Everything in his bogus reasons & childish arguments screams ‘intimidation.’ Another great achievement of brutal force. Congrats, Holofraudsters !! Beautiful victory !

                  Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 9:21 am

                • “Would be even more amazing if he was able to refute one tenth of one percent of his past revisionist arguments. The reasons supposedly explaining his ”change of heart” are ridiculous beyond anything. Everything in his bogus reasons & childish arguments screams ‘intimidation.’ Another great achievement of brutal force. Congrats, Holofraudsters !! Beautiful victory !”

                  Hey, you can’t blame Eric for growing a brain.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 9:44 am

                • You wrote: “you can’t blame Eric for growing a brain.”

                  It is my understanding that Eric grew a brain out of fear for his life. He was on the verge of exposing Elie the liar, and that’s why he went into hiding.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 9:52 am

                • Nope, not what happened.

                  http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27829

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 9:57 am

                • You gave a link to the “skepticforum”. I have tried to read the skeptic forum but it is too complicated for me, as I have said before.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 11:07 am

                • In fact, it’s not the first time that intimidation & bribery make Eric Hunt “change his heart”. In 2008, he said that “he had been sucked into anti-Semitic conspiracy theories on the Internet but that he does not deny the Holocaust.” Result of this statement? Hunt was out of jail 6 months earlier than expected. But from 2011 to 2016, he changed his heart again and made a number of revisionist videos completely debunking the Holohoax and its smoke & mirrors. No doubt a threat to go back to jail or a large sum of money (he was still asking for donations in late 2016) could easily make such a guy change his heart again. Don’t pretend you really believe that Hunt’s new stand is sincere and not influenced by external factors. The theory of Hunt’s alleged sudden awakening to the exterminationist ‘truth’ can’t hold water for 2 minutes. Laughable…

                  Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 9:38 am

                • “In fact, it’s not the first time that intimidation & bribery make Eric Hunt ”change his heart”. In 2008, he said that ”he had been sucked into anti-Semitic conspiracy theories on the Internet but that he does not deny the Holocaust.” Result of this statement? Hunt was out of jail 6 months earlier than expected.”

                  Well, he was gutless. But, hey, didn’t matter as long as he was churning out videos, right? Didn’t hear any complaints from the denier community when he became the staunch defender of denier bullshit.

                  “But from 2011 to 2016, he changed his heart again and made a number of revisionist videos completely debunking the Holohoax and its smoke & mirrors.”

                  That he now repudiates. Poor fellow figured out all that “evacuation to the east” bullshit was exactly that….bullshit. Well, I also personally think he started taking medication again.

                  “No doubt a threat to go back to jail”

                  No doubt.
                  😂
                  Prove it.

                  “or a large sum of money (he was still asking for donations in late 2016) could easily make such a guy change his heart again.”

                  All denier sites ask for donations. Frankly, everyone asks for donations.

                  “Don’t pretend you really believe that Hunt’s new stand is sincere and not influenced by external factors.”

                  Pretend? No pretending about it. The fact that he is defending himself proves that.

                  “The theory of Hunt’s alleged sudden awakening to the exterminationist ‘truth’ can’t hold water for 2 minutes. Laughable…”

                  No, what Eric went through (just like BROI, David Irving, David Cole, Chris Webber and maybe Blake121666) is that enough actual research convinced them that denier “theories” don’t hold water.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 9:55 am

                • You wrote: “The theory of Hunt’s alleged sudden awakening to the exterminationist ‘truth’ can’t hold water for 2 minutes. Laughable…”

                  Hunt changed his story because his life was threatened.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 9:56 am

                • If it makes you feel better to believe that, feel free.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 9:58 am

                • Eric Hunt went to prison for 4 years for “accosting” Elie Wiesel.

                  I wrote about this on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/if-you-insist-on-answers-to-your-questions-you-could-be-morally-ill/

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 10:46 am

                • No.
                  http://abc7news.com/archive/6336183/

                  Don’t you often complain about fact checking?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 11:08 am

                • You gave a link to a news article, and then wrote: “Don’t you often complain about fact checking?”

                  Yes, I do often complain about “fact checking”. This news article is not the gospel truth.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 1:52 pm

                • “Yes, I do often complain about ”fact checking”. This news article is not the gospel truth.”

                  In what way? Do you have something showing something different?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 1:54 pm

                • You wrote: “Do you have something showing something different?”

                  Try this news article: http://abc7news.com/archive/6336183/

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 2:05 pm

                • FG, it’s the same article I gave you. Eric served less than two years and then was ordered to receive counseling.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 2:10 pm

                • The following quote is from a news article: http://abc7news.com/archive/6336183/

                  “A couple of weeks ago Hunt wrote a long screed professing his new-found faith in the homicidal gas chambers and presumably something close to six million Jewish victims, citing principally a number of ambiguous photographs that don’t prove much, let alone that gas chambers were utilized to extinguish millions of people.”

                  In other words, in America, which is a country that has free speech, a person can go to prison for not believing in the Holocaust story.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 2:13 pm

                • “”A couple of weeks ago Hunt wrote a long screed professing his new-found faith in the homicidal gas chambers and presumably something close to six million Jewish victims, citing principally a number of ambiguous photographs that don’t prove much, let alone that gas chambers were utilized to extinguish millions of people.”

                  In other words, in America, which is a country that has free speech, a person can go to prison for not believing in the Holocaust story.”

                  No, Hunt went to jail for assaulting Eli Wiesel.

                  If HD was a crime then Hunt would have been convicted because of his videos.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 2:16 pm

                • The following quote is from a news article: “San Francisco jury found a troubled New Jersey man guilty of a felony hate crime charge of false imprisonment on Monday while clearing him of five other felonies stemming from a bizarre encounter in which he pulled Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel out of a hotel elevator last year.”

                  You wrote: “Hunt went to jail for assaulting Eli Wiesel.”

                  You are correct that Hunt went to jail for assault.

                  Here is a quote from the news article:
                  Begin quote

                  Eric Hunt, 24, had been charged with six felonies related to the Feb. 1, 2007, incident at the Argent Hotel that prosecutors had said was a hate-based attempt to persuade the peace activist to renounce the Holocaust.
                  End quote

                  Since America has free speech, Eric Hunt could not have been sent to jail for denying the Holocaust, so he was sentenced, instead, for the crime of assault because he shoved Eli into a room where he could talk to him. Eli should have talked with Eric and provided some proof that Jews were gassed.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 2:24 pm

                • You wrote: “If it makes you feel better to believe that, feel free.”

                  I wrote about Eric Hunt on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/if-you-insist-on-answers-to-your-questions-you-could-be-morally-ill/

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 11:03 am

                • BD wrote: “Hey, you can’t blame Eric for growing a brain.”

                  There was much more intelligence in his videos than there is in his miserable recantation. Believing Hunt joined the other team for such reasons amounts to believing a prominent biologist could become a creationist after seeing a giraffe in a zoo. Nonsensical and unbelievable. Don’t make me laugh…

                  Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 2:42 pm

                • “There was much more intelligence in his videos than there is in his miserable recantation.”

                  Really?
                  😂
                  I never saw it.
                  Hunt figured out that denier “theories” are indefensible. That’s why he stopped being a denier.

                  “Believing Hunt joined the other team for such reasons amounts to believing a prominent biologist could become a creationist after seeing a giraffe in a zoo.”

                  No, it’s actually the other way around. You can prove the existence of a giraffe. You can’t prove denier bullshit.

                  “Nonsensical and unbelievable.”

                  Yes, I know denier “theories” are nonsensical and unbelievable. That’s what Eric figured out.

                  “Don’t make me laugh…”

                  I’m already laughing. I know deniers are crying over losing their favorite video maker.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 2:49 pm

                • You wrote: “There was much more intelligence in his videos than there is in his miserable recantation.”

                  Correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t Eric Hunt noted for being a genius. His problem is that he finds it hard to deal with people who are less intelligent.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 22, 2017 @ 2:51 pm

                • BD wrote: “Well, he was gutless. But, hey, didn’t matter as long as he was churning out videos, right? Didn’t hear any complaints from the denier community when he became the staunch defender of denier bullshit.”

                  He wasn’t gutless. He made a false withdrawal in 2008 in order to get out of jail, just as he has done a few months ago. Understandable. Who wouldn’t say anything in his position?

                  BD wrote: “That he now repudiates.”

                  But can’t refute…

                  BD wrote: “Poor fellow figured out all that “evacuation to the east” bullshit was exactly that….bullshit.

                  And suddenly he stopped being bothered by the lack of physical evidence for the exterminationist theory?!? Suddenly Sturdy Colls’ passing trick became convincing??? Yeah, very credible…

                  BD wrote: “Well, I also personally think he started taking medication again.”

                  Groundless conspiracy theory. Prove it…

                  BD wrote: “No doubt. Prove it.”

                  He proved it himself in 2008. Or are you saying that a guy who said he believed in the ‘Holocaust’ in 2008 to get out of jail and who made dozens of revisionist videos from 2011 to 2016, couldn’t say he believes in the ‘Holocaust’ in 2017 not to go back to jail??? C’moooon…

                  BD wrote: “All denier sites ask for donations. Frankly, everyone asks for donations.”

                  He wasn’t just asking for donations when he “saw the light.” He had stopped the making of his documentary because he had ran out of money.

                  BD wrote: “Pretend? No pretending about it. The fact that he is defending himself proves that.”

                  The fact that he’s defending himself only proves he now works for the other team while he could just have dropped the topic in order to live a quiet life.

                  BD wrote: “No, what Eric went through (just like BROI, David Irving, David Cole, Chris Webber and maybe Blake121666) is that enough actual research convinced them that denier “theories” don’t hold water.”

                  Impressive.

                  Only jail and death threats were needed to turn Irving and Cole into defenders of the state-sponsored mandatory ‘truth.’ Magical ! And none of them even really recanted and dismissed their former statements and views. They merely and unconvincingly moved to topics they hadn’t touched in their revisionist years, before meeting the iron fist of Zion. BROI’s deletion of his own blog makes his recantation very suspect if I’m asked. Who’s Chris Webber? Your favorite baker? I’m only aware of a Mark Weber and of his lousy about-face (https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=13960329&postcount=24). And I don’t know who blake121666 is. How many Galileo Galeleis need to bullied or bribed before the sun revolves around the earth? More than 5, I’m sure of that. 😉

                  And what about all the revisonists who are still revisonists? They’re essentially former believers who changed their minds after realizing that the ‘Holocaust’ is nothing but a hollow hoax, that it was considered proven without any reliable evidence, or in other words that it was just a politically-motivated war lie. Doesn’t their eye-opening to the revisionist truth tell you something???

                  Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 3:36 pm

                • “BD wrote: ”Well, he was gutless. But, hey, didn’t matter as long as he was churning out videos, right? Didn’t hear any complaints from the denier community when he became the staunch defender of denier bullshit.”

                  “He wasn’t gutless. He made a false withdrawal in 2008 in order to get out of jail, just as he has done a few months ago. Understandable. Who wouldn’t say anything in his position?”

                  Oh, but brave martyrs that you all are I’d expect you take a few lumps for the “team.”
                  😂

                  It’s not like it was a death sentence.

                  BD wrote: ”That he now repudiates.”

                  “But can’t refute…”

                  He did so in his coming out party.

                  BD wrote: ”Poor fellow figured out all that “evacuation to the east” bullshit was exactly that….bullshit.

                  “And suddenly he stopped being bothered by the lack of physical evidence for the exterminationist theory?!? Suddenly Sturdy Colls’ passing trick became convincing??? Yeah, very credible…”

                  No more so than Krege. When’s he going to put out that report he’s been promising?

                  BD wrote: ”Well, I also personally think he started taking medication again.”

                  “Groundless conspiracy theory. Prove it…”

                  Just a hunch. He became lucid again.

                  BD wrote: ”No doubt. Prove it.”

                  “He proved it himself in 2008. Or are you saying that a guy who said he believed in the ‘Holocaust’ in 2008 to get out of jail and who made dozens of revisionist videos from 2011 to 2016, couldn’t say he believes in the ‘Holocaust’ in 2017 not to go back to jail??? C’moooon…”

                  What jail time? For what?

                  BD wrote: ”All denier sites ask for donations. Frankly, everyone asks for donations.”

                  “He wasn’t just asking for donations when he ”saw the light.” He had stopped the making of his documentary because he had ran out of money.”

                  Well then, guess you guys shoulda kept priming the pump. You gave him too much time to figure out where he was wrong.

                  BD wrote: ”Pretend? No pretending about it. The fact that he is defending himself proves that.”

                  “The fact that he’s defending himself only proves he now works for the other team while he could just have dropped the topic in order to live a quiet life.”

                  Oh, but if he’d dropped out of sight you would have all claimed Jews ate him.

                  BD wrote: ”No, what Eric went through (just like BROI, David Irving, David Cole, Chris Webber and maybe Blake121666) is that enough actual research convinced them that denier “theories” don’t hold water.”

                  “Impressive.”

                  IKR?

                  “Only jail and death threats were needed to turn Irving and Cole into defenders of the state-sponsored mandatory ‘truth.’ Magical ”

                  Well, jail and death threats don’t stop other deniers. What’s the difference? Well, Irving, for all of his faults, is a historian. I think Cole did the whole thing for attention. I don’t think his heart was in it.

                  “And none of them even really recanted and dismissed their former statements and views. They merely and unconvincingly moved to topics they hadn’t touched in their revisionist years,”

                  Cole still actively writes and bashes other deniers over the subject. I don’t know what Irving is doing.

                  “before meeting the iron fist of Zion.”

                  😂

                  “BROI’s deletion of his own blog makes his recantation very suspect if I’m asked.”

                  😂

                  BROI is alive and well and posting in lots of different places.
                  The rabbit is also an excellent researcher. See how that works? Research sets you free.

                  “Who’s Chris Webber? Your favorite baker?”

                  Sorry, meant Mark Weber. Shit happens.

                  “I’m only aware of a Mark Weber and of his lousy about-face (https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=13960329&postcount=24). And I don’t know who blake121666 is. How many Galileo Galeleis need to bullied or bribed before the sun revolves around the earth? More than 5, I’m sure of that. ;-)”

                  Aaaawwww, I do bet that stung when Mark deserted you all. Blake posts here. He’s even replied to you. I think Eric’s turning shook him up.

                  “And what about all the revisonists who are still revisonists? They’re essentially former believers who changed their minds after realizing that the ‘Holocaust’ is nothing but a hollow hoax, that it was considered proven without any reliable evidence, or in other words that it was just a politically-motivated war lie. Doesn’t their eye-opening to the revisionist truth tell you something???”

                  Nope, just means there will always be dumbasses in this world.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 3:59 pm

                • BD wrote: “Really? I never saw it.”

                  Probably because you’ve never watched his videos. Obvious.

                  BD wrote: “Hunt figured out that denier “theories” are indefensible. That’s why he stopped being a denier.”

                  Keep repeating it. Perhaps some people will finally believe it.

                  BD wrote: “No, it’s actually the other way around. You can prove the existence of a giraffe. You can’t prove denier bullshit.”

                  If some cranks claimed that there exists a 20-foot-tall ruminant with a huge neck somewhere without being able to provide physical evidence for their claim, they would be rightly classified as cryptozoologists. Exterminationist historians are cryptohistorians. State-sponsored crytohistorians, but cryptohistorians nevertheless.

                  BD wrote: “I’m already laughing. I know deniers are crying over losing their favorite video maker.”

                  I’ve seen no “denier” cry so far, but I’ve seen a number of believers ridiculously boast about their useless trophy. Frankly, the main benefit of Hunt’s about-face for the believers is that he stopped making revisionist videos. As an exterminationist, his contribution is zero.

                  Comment by hermie — March 22, 2017 @ 4:20 pm

                • “BD wrote: ”Really? I never saw it.”

                  “Probably because you’ve never watched his videos. Obvious.”

                  Actually I have. They were good for a laugh.

                  BD wrote: ”Hunt figured out that denier “theories” are indefensible. That’s why he stopped being a denier.”

                  “Keep repeating it. Perhaps some people will finally believe it.”

                  Apparently some already have.

                  BD wrote: ”No, it’s actually the other way around. You can prove the existence of a giraffe. You can’t prove denier bullshit.”

                  “If some cranks claimed that there exists a 20-foot-tall ruminant with a huge neck somewhere without being able to provide physical evidence for their claim, they would be rightly classified as cryptozoologists.”

                  Except that giraffes can be seen, they’ve been studied and no one doubts their existence.

                  “Exterminationist historians are cryptohistorians. State-sponsored crytohistorians, but cryptohistorians nevertheless.”

                  Really? Why so much disagreement between them? Why so much different research that is ongoing?
                  Pretty words. No real meaning. That’s you to a T, hermie.

                  BD wrote: ”I’m already laughing. I know deniers are crying over losing their favorite video maker.”

                  “I’ve seen no ”denier” cry so far, but I’ve seen a number of believers ridiculously boast about their useless trophy. Frankly, the main benefit of Hunt’s about-face for the believers is that he stopped making revisionist videos. As an exterminationist, his contribution is zero.”

                  Oh, he’s debated ol’ Fritzy Berg, he posts on CODOH and RODOH, he’s kept himself out there. I don’t know if he’s really discovered anything different but he’s posted pictures that I’ve never seen.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 22, 2017 @ 4:55 pm

                • DB wrote: “Oh, but brave martyrs that you all are I’d expect you take a few lumps for the “team.” It’s not like it was a death sentence.”

                  No death sentence was needed to make him tell a patently-insincere-and-false recantation in 2008. Everybody has his own limits.

                  BD wrote: ”He did so in his coming out party.”

                  No, he didn’t. He didn’t even mention his videos. He just wrote a short paper at best worth a C in a mid-school and NOT dealing with the arguments he formulated in his videos.

                  BD wrote: ”No more so than Krege. When’s he going to put out that report he’s been promising?”

                  Don’t know. Perhaps you’d better ask him. But since the burden of proof still lies on the accuser(s), that doesn’t matter and exterminationist historians still have to prove the materiality of their accusations.

                  BD wrote: ”Just a hunch.”

                  Yes, I know. The Holohoaxers’ traditional way…

                  BD wrote: “He became lucid again.”

                  And visibly lost a number of brain cells in the process. Still within your ludicrous theory of a spontaneous change, of course.

                  BD wrote: ”What jail time? For what?”

                  For Holocaust ‘denial.’ Wasn’t he travelling in Europe (where Holocaust revisionism is illegal) for his next documentary when he suddenly “saw the exterminationist light?” That’s what happened to David Irving in Austria a few years ago.

                  BD wrote: ”Well then, guess you guys shoulda kept priming the pump.”

                  Perhaps. That can be concluded afterwards.

                  BD wrote: “You gave him too much time to figure out where he was wrong.”

                  Or to figure out poverty is not fun.

                  BD wrote: ”Oh, but if he’d dropped out of sight you would have all claimed Jews ate him.”

                  Perhaps you’d better stop claiming you’re able to read in people’s minds if you plan to keep an ounce of credibility.

                  BD wrote: ”Well, jail and death threats don’t stop other deniers. What’s the difference?”

                  Every individual’s intrinsic strength.

                  BD wrote: “Well, Irving, for all of his faults, is a historian.”

                  Now he came back on the good side of twHistory….

                  BD wrote: “I think Cole did the whole thing for attention. I don’t think his heart was in it.”

                  Laughable. David Cole was a young naive guy unaware of the forces he was facing. On the other hand, David Stein, or Cole 2.0, is a cynical fully-grown man who knows it’s always better to be on the good side of the gun than on the wrong side of it.

                  BD wrote: “Cole still actively writes and bashes other deniers over the subject. I don’t know what Irving is doing.”

                  Yes, Cole actively bashes some revisionists over the ‘Holocaust.’ But he didn’t address his own revisionists arguments and he will never do it.

                  BD wrote: “BROI is alive and well and posting in lots of different places. The rabbit is also an excellent researcher. See how that works? Research sets you free.”

                  All he needed to do in order to move from the status of a devil incarnate to the status of “an excellent researcher” in the state-sponsored storytellers’ regard was a complete turnabout. Submission is magical !!

                  Still doesn’t explain why he felt the need to erase his own blog.

                  BD wrote: “Sorry, meant Mark Weber. Shit happens.”

                  I know. Just teasing you.

                  BD wrote: “Aaaawwww, I do bet that stung when Mark deserted you all.”

                  No stung. Just a rational refutation of his ridiculous excuse for joining the rulers’ team. All I ask from him is that he deserts the leadership of the IHR.

                  BD wrote: “Blake posts here. He’s even replied to you.”

                  Haw? He probably post comments only very rarely. In any case, he visibly didn’t make a strong impression on me.

                  BD wrote: “Nope, just means there will always be dumbasses in this world.”

                  Thus a denier who becomes a believer proves that Holocaust revisionism is BS. But a believer who becomes a denier only means “there will always be dumbasses in this world.” Hilarious inconsistent double standard. Again !!

                  Comment by hermie — March 23, 2017 @ 5:59 am

                • “DB wrote: ”Oh, but brave martyrs that you all are I’d expect you take a few lumps for the “team.” It’s not like it was a death sentence.”

                  “No death sentence was needed to make him tell a patently-insincere-and-false recantation in 2008. Everybody has his own limits.”

                  So, he was insincere back then and not now?

                  BD wrote: ”He did so in his coming out party.”

                  “No, he didn’t. He didn’t even mention his videos. He just wrote a short paper at best worth a C in a mid-school and NOT dealing with the arguments he formulated in his videos.”

                  Basically his arguments match with known history, not a denier fantasy world.

                  BD wrote: ”No more so than Krege. When’s he going to put out that report he’s been promising?”

                  “Don’t know. Perhaps you’d better ask him. But since the burden of proof still lies on the accuser(s),”

                  Same old hermie, falling back on your old bullshit. If deniers have an alternate version of history then the burden of proof lies on them. So, if deniers can’t back their ludicrous “theories” then it is all based on the denier faith. You know, like a cult.

                  “that doesn’t matter and exterminationist historians still have to prove the materiality of their accusations.”

                  Proved over and over again. Want to prove them wrong? Have deniers provide their own proof.
                  Krege made a huge fucking deal out of his alleged “scans”……in 1999. He was still pedaling his “scans” in 2006….but so far released only one scan with no report. Sounds like denier proof of something, why not give the denier cult a thrill and release what he has?

                  BD wrote: ”Just a hunch.”

                  “Yes, I know. The Holohoaxers’ traditional way…”

                  Well, based on observation. In my experience when people actually go back on their meds they become lucid. Like Eric.

                  BD wrote: ”He became lucid again.”

                  “And visibly lost a number of brain cells in the process.”

                  Did you look inside his skull to prove this?

                  “Still within your ludicrous theory of a spontaneous change, of course.”

                  Hardly spontaneous. Eric kept digging and found out the truth.

                  BD wrote: ”What jail time? For what?”

                  “For Holocaust ‘denial.’ Wasn’t he travelling in Europe (where Holocaust revisionism is illegal)”

                  Depends on the country.

                  How the hell should I know where he was when he had his epiphany?

                  “for his next documentary when he suddenly ”saw the exterminationist light?”

                  Do you have his itinerary? I don’t.

                  “That’s what happened to David Irving in Austria a few years ago.”

                  Aaaawwww, poor martyrs to the truth.

                  BD wrote: ”Well then, guess you guys shoulda kept priming the pump.”

                  “Perhaps. That can be concluded afterwards.”

                  Next time you find someone willing to make videos for you keep giving them money. Jim Rizoli is always looking for handouts.

                  BD wrote: ”You gave him too much time to figure out where he was wrong.”

                  “Or to figure out poverty is not fun.”

                  What, is the assumption that Eric is going to start making real money for “exterminationalist?” 😂

                  BD wrote: ”Oh, but if he’d dropped out of sight you would have all claimed Jews ate him.”

                  “Perhaps you’d better stop claiming you’re able to read in people’s minds if you plan to keep an ounce of credibility.”

                  I’m mocking deniers. But, isn’t that always the case? When one of your fellow cult members deserts you the claim is that the Jews threatened him (or her).

                  BD wrote: ”Well, jail and death threats don’t stop other deniers. What’s the difference?”

                  “Every individual’s intrinsic strength.”

                  Substitute “strength” for “lunacy.”

                  BD wrote: ”Well, Irving, for all of his faults, is a historian.”

                  “Now he came back on the good side of twHistory….”

                  Well, he dropped the cult thing. Bully for him.

                  BD wrote: ”I think Cole did the whole thing for attention. I don’t think his heart was in it.”

                  “Laughable. David Cole was a young naive guy unaware of the forces he was facing.”

                  😂
                  “Forces.”

                  Even as a young man Cole prided himself on being a pain in the ass. He once took a black woman as a date to a white pride meeting.

                  “On the other hand, David Stein, or Cole 2.0, is a cynical fully-grown man who knows it’s always better to be on the good side of the gun than on the wrong side of it.”

                  He’s simply an older version of his younger self. Only in a more deteriorated state. Seriously, the man needs to lay off the booze.

                  BD wrote: ”Cole still actively writes and bashes other deniers over the subject. I don’t know what Irving is doing.”

                  “Yes, Cole actively bashes some revisionists over the ‘Holocaust.’ But he didn’t address his own revisionists arguments and he will never do it.”

                  Well, it’s hard admitting you are wrong. But, the way to recovery is to admit you are wrong.

                  BD wrote: ”BROI is alive and well and posting in lots of different places. The rabbit is also an excellent researcher. See how that works? Research sets you free.”

                  “All he needed to do in order to move from the status of a devil incarnate to the status of ”an excellent researcher” in the state-sponsored storytellers’ regard was a complete turnabout. Submission is magical !!”

                  I’ve always said the rabbit was an excellent researcher. I’ve actually used some of the stuff he’s posted to make points and this is before he dropped the denier bit.

                  “Still doesn’t explain why he felt the need to erase his own blog.”

                  Well, it embarrassed him. I can see why.

                  BD wrote: ”Sorry, meant Mark Weber. Shit happens.”

                  I know. Just teasing you.

                  BD wrote: ”Aaaawwww, I do bet that stung when Mark deserted you all.”

                  “No stung. Just a rational refutation of his ridiculous excuse for joining the rulers’ team. All I ask from him is that he deserts the leadership of the IHR.”

                  But he’s still an antisemite. You would think he would drop that bit after he joined the ruling team.

                  BD wrote: ”Blake posts here. He’s even replied to you.”

                  “Haw? He probably post comments only very rarely. In any case, he visibly didn’t make a strong impression on me.”

                  Of course, he doesn’t follow your lunacy.

                  BD wrote: ”Nope, just means there will always be dumbasses in this world.”

                  “Thus a denier who becomes a believer proves that Holocaust revisionism is BS.”

                  Nope, Holocaust DENIAL is always BS.

                  “But a believer who becomes a denier only means ”there will always be dumbasses in this world.” Hilarious inconsistent double standard. Again !!”

                  Well, when someone turns to denial it means they were already inclined in that direction or didn’t know enough about history and was taken in by denier BS. You know, like anyone who joins a cult.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 23, 2017 @ 6:47 am

                • BD wrote: “Actually I have. They were good for a laugh.”

                  Another obvious lie on your part…

                  BD wrote: ”Except that giraffes can be seen, they’ve been studied and no one doubts their existence.”

                  Unlike a significant portion of the Holocaust mass graves, dead bodies and cremains. QED.

                  BD wrote: “Really? Why so much disagreement between them? Why so much different research that is ongoing?”

                  Disagreement on minor details. Same consensus as that in a gang of Geocentrists. They’re just running like rats in the wheel of their false paradigm. Find something better.

                  BD wrote: “Pretty words. No real meaning. That’s you to a T, hermie.”

                  For the sake of your own credibility, you’d better stop saying that the things you don’t & can’t understand have no real meaning.

                  BD wrote: ”Oh, he’s debated ol’ Fritzy Berg,”

                  I think the stormy Fritz Berg could even defeat himself if left alone to debate. Can’t comment on this because I haven’t yet listened to the Berg-Hunt debate.

                  BD wrote: “he posts on CODOH and RODOH, he’s kept himself out there.”

                  So what? How does that prove he wasn’t compelled or bribed to do it???

                  BD wrote: “I don’t know if he’s really discovered anything different but he’s posted pictures that I’ve never seen.”

                  Never read Pressac’s book? From what I’ve seen so far, he has just recycled some stuff from Pressac’s multi-debunked old material.

                  Comment by hermie — March 23, 2017 @ 6:16 am

                • BD wrote: “So, he was insincere back then and not now?”

                  No, he was insincere back then (in 2008) AND now. Got it now?

                  BD wrote: ”Basically his arguments match with known history, not a denier fantasy world.”

                  Known history is a just a code word for the narrative supported by the rulers of this world. Don’t pretend you haven’t realized that history writing & telling has always been a mere narrative supposed to legitimate the position and interests of the rulers of the day.

                  BD wrote: ”Same old hermie, falling back on your old bullshit. If deniers have an alternate version of history then the burden of proof lies on them. So, if deniers can’t back their ludicrous “theories” then it is all based on the denier faith. You know, like a cult.”

                  Funny to see you flee your due burden of proof like plague. Surprising from people who claim they have mountains of evidence to prove their narrative.

                  BD wrote: “Proved over and over again.”

                  Yes, testimonies and more testimonies, like the presence of an Elasmosaurus in the Loch Ness. So compelling… 😉

                  BD wrote: “Want to prove them wrong? Have deniers provide their own proof.”

                  Any accuser failing to prove his allegations automatically disproves the latter de facto. We’re not in Stalin’s Moscow mock trials. Sorry for you. I realize that it gives a very hard time. But that’s how things work (or should world) in the real world.

                  BD wrote: “Krege made a huge fucking deal out of his alleged “scans”……in 1999. He was still pedaling his “scans” in 2006….but so far released only one scan with no report. Sounds like denier proof of something, why not give the denier cult a thrill and release what he has?”

                  From what I know, Krege’s silence came as another great achievement of intimidation. Note that nothing prevented some exterminationists from scanning the ground of alleged extermination camps with a GPR and from showing at last pics of their allegedly-missing Jews. Their reluctance to do it should tell you something.

                  BD wrote: ”Well, based on observation. In my experience when people actually go back on their meds they become lucid. Like Eric.”

                  Ridiculous. Another proof that you didn’t watch his videos. Hunt’s videos were patently not the work of an irrational guy.

                  BD wrote: ”Did you look inside his skull to prove this?”

                  No, I read his pathetic recantation.

                  BD wrote: “Hardly spontaneous. Eric kept digging and found out the truth.”

                  Yeah, he found out the truth about the brutality of the exterminationist side.

                  BD wrote: ”Do you have his itinerary? I don’t.”

                  I don’t either. That’s why I asked.

                  BD wrote: “Aaaawwww, poor martyrs to the truth.”

                  Always amazed by your unidirectional compassion. You would of course never say such a thing about a gay propagandists imprisoned in a country where homosexual propaganda is forbidden.

                  In any event, I didn’t say Irving was a martyr. I only said it’s dangerous to travel in Europe when you’re a Holocaust revisionist.

                  BD wrote: ”Next time you find someone willing to make videos for you keep giving them money. Jim Rizoli is always looking for handouts.”

                  Revisionists don’t have the unlimited resources of exterminationists.

                  BD wrote: ”What, is the assumption that Eric is going to start making real money for “exterminationalist?” ”

                  Just a guess. As far as I’m concerned, I find the theory of a threatened/bullied Eric Hunt more likely and plausible than the theory of a bribed Eric hunt.

                  BD wrote: ”I’m mocking deniers. But, isn’t that always the case? When one of your fellow cult members deserts you the claim is that the Jews threatened him (or her).”

                  I’m afraid you’re only mocking yourself when you concede (or rather, pretend) that some simple things are beyond your understanding.

                  BD wrote: ”Substitute “strength” for “lunacy.””

                  Yeah, all the people who break down in prison are just lunatics. Very smart, doctor.

                  BD wrote: ”Well, he dropped the cult thing. Bully for him.”

                  We would be living in a beautiful world if “only” a stay in prison was enough to make everybody endorse the politically-correct version of the ‘Holocaust’ narrative, wouldn’t we? What kind of cults needs such things to be worshipped by everybody? BS cults such as the Holo-cult, for sure…

                  BD wrote: ”“Forces.””

                  Yeah, no group of people ever gathered to defend their own interests and put pressure on any people or government. Just crazy conspiracy stuff.

                  BD wrote: ”I’ve always said the rabbit was an excellent researcher. I’ve actually used some of the stuff he’s posted to make points and this is before he dropped the denier bit.”

                  So bad everybody failed to hear it before he was on the side of manufactured history.

                  BD wrote: “Well, it embarrassed him. I can see why.”

                  He used to source each of his statements and let the way open for discussion and other interpretations. Nothing embarrassing in his blog.

                  BD wrote: ”But he’s still an antisemite. You would think he would drop that bit after he joined the ruling team.”

                  He’s not anti-Semite. Talking against the Zionist lobby in America and elsewhere is not anti-Semitic. But you’ll probably pretend you fail to see any difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.

                  BD wrote: ”Of course, he doesn’t follow your lunacy.”

                  He follows what he wants to follow. I don’t know who he is.

                  BD wrote: ”Nope, Holocaust DENIAL is always BS.”

                  Thanks for this very smart and substantiated ‘argument.’ I’m really lucky to have the opportunity to rub shoulders with such a powerful intellect.

                  BD wrote: “Well, when someone turns to denial it means they were already inclined in that direction or didn’t know enough about history and was taken in by denier BS. You know, like anyone who joins a cult.”

                  Great pop-psychoanalysis, Doc. Positively funny…

                  Comment by hermie — March 23, 2017 @ 7:59 am

                • “BD wrote: ”So, he was insincere back then and not now?”

                  “No, he was insincere back then (in 2008) AND now. Got it now?”

                  So, he’s just a liar.

                  BD wrote: ”Basically his arguments match with known history, not a denier fantasy world.”

                  “Known history is a just a code word for the narrative supported by the rulers of this world.”

                  That’s really weak. That’s the argument of someone who can’t support his belief system.

                  “Don’t pretend you haven’t realized that history writing & telling has always been a mere narrative supposed to legitimate the position and interests of the rulers of the day.”

                  😂

                  No, what I realize is that history is written by people and is therefore not infallible. You can see this today with how many different views on the Holocaust there are and disagreements over interpretation exist. If this was all written on the orders of the “masters” then everyone would be in lockstep with each other. They are not. You would realize this if you didn’t belong to a cult.

                  BD wrote: ”Same old hermie, falling back on your old bullshit. If deniers have an alternate version of history then the burden of proof lies on them. So, if deniers can’t back their ludicrous “theories” then it is all based on the denier faith. You know, like a cult.”

                  “Funny to see you flee your due burden of proof like plague. Surprising from people who claim they have mountains of evidence to prove their narrative.”

                  No, I want to see the evidence that deniers have. Are you saying that none exists?

                  BD wrote: ”Proved over and over again.”

                  “Yes, testimonies and more testimonies, like the presence of an Elasmosaurus in the Loch Ness. So compelling… ;-)”

                  I don’t rely on testimonies. For the millionth time. To be honest I could care less if Irene Zisblatt ate and crapped her diamonds six times or if Eli had a tattoo. They are only two people. Victims and bystanders only saw and experienced what the SS allowed. The key is what documents exist and what the SS said. Another key is understanding the military/political/resource situation as it existed. Only then does witness and bystander testimony come in.

                  BD wrote: ”Want to prove them wrong? Have deniers provide their own proof.”

                  “Any accuser failing to prove his allegations automatically disproves the latter de facto.”

                  Translation:
                  We don’t have shit. Stop asking for it.

                  “We’re not in Stalin’s Moscow mock trials.”

                  Continuation of the above, we don’t have shit, stopping asking for it.

                  “Sorry for you.”

                  No, I feel sorry for you. Anyone who lives their life in a delusion deserves my pity.

                  “I realize that it gives a very hard time.”

                  Not really. It simply proves that deniers don’t have shit and don’t want to talk about it.

                  “But that’s how things work (or should world) in the real world.”

                  In the real world someone stating they have an alternative view on history is required to prove it. If they can’t then it is not valid.

                  BD wrote: ”Krege made a huge fucking deal out of his alleged “scans”……in 1999. He was still pedaling his “scans” in 2006….but so far released only one scan with no report. Sounds like denier proof of something, why not give the denier cult a thrill and release what he has?”

                  “From what I know, Krege’s silence came as another great achievement of intimidation.”

                  Of course it did.
                  😂

                  “Note that nothing prevented some exterminationists from scanning the ground of alleged extermination camps with a GPR and from showing at last pics of their allegedly-missing Jews.”

                  But, why bother if Krege already did it?

                  “Their reluctance to do it should tell you something.”

                  Krege’s reluctance to release his report tells me a lot.

                  BD wrote: ”Well, based on observation. In my experience when people actually go back on their meds they become lucid. Like Eric.”

                  “Ridiculous. Another proof that you didn’t watch his videos. Hunt’s videos were patently not the work of an irrational guy.”

                  But, he is a liar, right? He lied back in 2008 and he’s lying now. So, which is it? If he is lying, why should I believe his videos?

                  Yes, I’ve watched some of Hunt’s videos. Probably not all of them.

                  BD wrote: ”Did you look inside his skull to prove this?”

                  “No, I read his pathetic recantation.”

                  Pathetic to you. All cult believers feel anger and disgust at the apostate.

                  BD wrote: ”Hardly spontaneous. Eric kept digging and found out the truth.”

                  “Yeah, he found out the truth about the brutality of the exterminationist side.”

                  No, he just found that denial doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

                  BD wrote: ”Do you have his itinerary? I don’t.”

                  “I don’t either. That’s why I asked.”

                  That makes two of us, I have no idea what Eric was doing when he decided to drop denial.

                  BD wrote: ”Aaaawwww, poor martyrs to the truth.”

                  “Always amazed by your unidirectional compassion. You would of course never say such a thing about a gay propagandists imprisoned in a country where homosexual propaganda is forbidden.”

                  Got me there. I really don’t have any compassion for deniers. I will say that locking them away is wrong. Better just to let loonies howl at the moon.

                  “In any event, I didn’t say Irving was a martyr. I only said it’s dangerous to travel in Europe when you’re a Holocaust revisionist.”

                  I really do agree that criminalizing denial is a really bad idea.

                  BD wrote: ”Next time you find someone willing to make videos for you keep giving them money. Jim Rizoli is always looking for handouts.”

                  “Revisionists don’t have the unlimited resources of exterminationists.”

                  😂

                  I wish someone would pay me for what I’m doing. That would be pretty cool.

                  BD wrote: ”What, is the assumption that Eric is going to start making real money for “exterminationalist?” ”

                  “Just a guess. As far as I’m concerned, I find the theory of a threatened/bullied Eric Hunt more likely and plausible than the theory of a bribed Eric hunt.”

                  Then why bother to keep posting? Eric could quietly disappear and no one would care.

                  BD wrote: ”I’m mocking deniers. But, isn’t that always the case? When one of your fellow cult members deserts you the claim is that the Jews threatened him (or her).”

                  “I’m afraid you’re only mocking yourself when you concede (or rather, pretend) that some simple things are beyond your understanding.”

                  There’s that ego again. It really is funny, that towering superiority complex you have.

                  BD wrote: ”I’ve always said the rabbit was an excellent researcher. I’ve actually used some of the stuff he’s posted to make points and this is before he dropped the denier bit.”

                  “So bad everybody failed to hear it before he was on the side of manufactured history.”

                  Rabbit’s a smart guy. Eventually he was going to see the truth.

                  BD wrote: ”Well, it embarrassed him. I can see why.”

                  “He used to source each of his statements and let the way open for discussion and other interpretations. Nothing embarrassing in his blog.”

                  Why cling to an outmoded belief?

                  BD wrote: ”But he’s still an antisemite. You would think he would drop that bit after he joined the ruling team.”

                  “He’s not anti-Semite. Talking against the Zionist lobby in America and elsewhere is not anti-Semitic. But you’ll probably pretend you fail to see any difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism.”

                  He said “Long live antisemitism!” Can’t see the ambiguity there.

                  The rest is just dull BS.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 23, 2017 @ 9:10 am

                • You wrote an entire book, which included these words: “Eric [Hunt] could quietly disappear and no one would care.”

                  I think that people would care. Eric is young and super smart. He has been treated badly, and he is probably still having a hard time coping with what happened to him.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 23, 2017 @ 9:39 am

                • BD wrote: “So, he’s just a liar.”

                  No, he ‘s just a human, thus a living being capable of lying to improve his lot or for other reasons. Everybody lies. Only the frequency of it changes, depending on individuals and circumstances. Don’t pretend you don’t understand that someone is capable of lying to avoid jail without being a liar.

                  BD wrote: ”That’s really weak. That’s the argument of someone who can’t support his belief system.”

                  No, that’s the argument of someone who knows past history writings and tellings.

                  BD wrote: “No, what I realize is that history is written by people and is therefore not infallible.”

                  It’s naive to believe that history is a neutral thing written independently of the structures power in specific times and places. I guess a sum of extraordinary coincidences just made all historical lessons validate the power structures of their days, as well as their respective propaganda needs, moral standards, and agendas.

                  BD wrote: “You can see this today with how many different views on the Holocaust there are and disagreements over interpretation exist. If this was all written on the orders of the “masters” then everyone would be in lockstep with each other. They are not.”

                  The exterminationist-exterminationist debate on the ‘Holocaust’ is a farce. A pitiful sight.

                  BD wrote: “You would realize this if you didn’t belong to a cult.”

                  Think about the ridiculousness of your assertion next time you see Holo-worshipers light candles and pray as the fanatics of a sect. Holocaustianity has all the stigmata of a cult and you know it.

                  BD wrote: ”No, I want to see the evidence that deniers have. Are you saying that none exists?”

                  Didn’t you supposedly read all the revisionist literature available? Again stuck in another of your lies?

                  BD wrote: ”I don’t rely on testimonies. For the millionth time. To be honest I could care less if Irene Zisblatt ate and crapped her diamonds six times or if Eli had a tattoo. They are only two people. Victims and bystanders only saw and experienced what the SS allowed. The key is what documents exist and what the SS said. Another key is understanding the military/political/resource situation as it existed. Only then does witness and bystander testimony come in.”

                  What the SS said are mere testimonies too.

                  Documents readable only after a proper (i.e. politically-motivated) decoding, of course.

                  BD wrote: ”Translation: We don’t have shit. Stop asking for it.”

                  Translation: We’ll never take our due burden of proof because we know that we wouldn’t win.

                  BD wrote: “In the real world someone stating they have an alternative view on history is required to prove it. If they can’t then it is not valid.”

                  Stop posturing with your alternative view BS. An alternative view to an unproven thing is not even needed to legitimately regard that thing as a myth.

                  BD wrote: ”But, why bother if Krege already did it?”

                  Because exterminationist historians are accusers and accusers need to prove their assertions with reliable evidence.

                  BD wrote: ”But, he is a liar, right? He lied back in 2008 and he’s lying now. So, which is it? If he is lying, why should I believe his videos?”

                  Yes, he lied in order to avoid jail. As far as I know, no revisionist threatened to send Hunt to jail when he made his videos. And nobody is asked to believe his videos. Hunt exposed verifiable facts and rational arguments in his videos. Belief is for Holo-believers and similar mystics.

                  BD wrote: ”Pathetic to you. All cult believers feel anger and disgust at the apostate.”

                  Anybody feeling disgust at an apostate would not even have read his reasons for apostasy.

                  BD wrote: ”No, he just found that denial doesn’t have a leg to stand on.”

                  As his ridiculous recantation showed…

                  BD wrote: ”Got me there. I really don’t have any compassion for deniers. I will say that locking them away is wrong. Better just to let loonies howl at the moon.”

                  Wrong because it shows the impotency of the guardians of the Holo-myth and the emptiness of the Holocaust case.

                  BD wrote: “I really do agree that criminalizing denial is a really bad idea.”

                  Yes, it might arouse the suspicion of the masses about the fraudulent nature of the ‘Holocaust.’ Too dangerous. Safer to feign an obfuscation over incarcerating the dissidents. Good job, Jeff. 😉

                  BD wrote: ”Next time you find someone willing to make videos for you keep giving them money. Jim Rizoli is always looking for handouts.”

                  BD wrote: “Then why bother to keep posting? Eric could quietly disappear and no one would care.”

                  He was probably not left with the choice to drop. Only collaboration was part of the deal.

                  BD wrote: ”Rabbit’s a smart guy. Eventually he was going to see the truth.”

                  I would call 6 years (he started his blog in 2010 if memory serves me right) before seeing the ‘truth’ the mark of a smart guy. Or perhaps that ‘truth’ is just not as obvious as often claimed…

                  BD wrote: ”Why cling to an outmoded belief?”

                  There is a big difference between clinging to something and erasing it from the internet.

                  BD wrote: ”He said “Long live antisemitism!” Can’t see the ambiguity there.”

                  Where? When? In what circumstances? What proves it?

                  BD wrote: “The rest is just dull BS.”

                  Do mean that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism???

                  Comment by hermie — March 23, 2017 @ 7:25 pm

  4. The most important contribution of the Zionist propagandist E-Lie Wiesel to the historical truth was his ‘omission’ of homicidal gas chambers in Auschwitz-Birkenau in the first edition of his famous testimonial book. An expert on bogus excuses for the exterminationist debate dodgers such as Deborah Lipstadt should coin a name for that. I suggest the label “Holocaust omitter.”

    Comment by hermie — March 21, 2017 @ 5:30 am

  5. The unofficial biography of Elie Wiesel “Holocaust High Priest: Elie Wiesel, “Night,” the Memory Cult, and the Rise of Revisionism,” published by Castle Hill’s Holocaust Handbooks Series, Volume 30, is a scholarly expose of the rise of Elie Wiesel and his preeminence as a sanctimonious old saddle bag with sad eyes for the billion dollar Holocaust Industry. The Yad Vashem World Holocaust Memorial Center in Jerusalem just succeeded in getting the biggest on-line bookseller in America to purge the revisionist titles previously available from them for 20 years. This biography started out as doctoral thesis for a degree in literature given by a Catholic university. It’s author was removed from the faculty under pressure from various Jewish self-interest groups tasked to torpedo all countervailing narratives to the preposterous claim that 6,000,000 of them were mass murdered during WWII. Unless ‘furtherglory” can provide some proof that professional prevaricator and propagandist Elie Wiesel actually recanted on his deathbed it would be best not to make the claim that he did because this sort of inference is Jewish and we goyim shouldn’t stoop to tricks the new unhappy lords of the global consumer slave plantation we all live on use to protect their dark and lucrative international cult of death from being examined too closely.

    Comment by who dares wings — March 20, 2017 @ 11:44 am

    • Statistical Mechanic says hello, WDW.

      Naturally I extend an invitation for you to join us at Skeptics.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:48 am

    • http://www.skepticforum.com/viewforum.php?f=39

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:51 am

    • with sad eyes for the billion dollar Holocaust Industry

      Yes but karma caught up with him — he lost nearly all of his money, which some (not necessarily me — I am mostly agnostic about it) would call ill-gotten gains, in the Madoff scam.

      Comment by eah — March 20, 2017 @ 11:52 am

  6. None of the fotos here can be regarded as proof Wiesel had a tattoo — they show nothing more than some discoloration in the area where others have a tattoo, but it is too indistinct to verify whether or not it is actually a tattoo, let alone an Auschwitz tattoo — while in some aged ‘survivors’ the tattoo no longer has crisp outlines, in a close-up it can still be identified as a tattoo — but for his own reasons, Wiesel never did this simple thing, ie allow such a close-up foto of his tattoo, which would have answered all questions and shut all the doubters up — you can decide for yourself why he never did that.

    Comment by eah — March 20, 2017 @ 11:40 am

    • Naturally you would feel that way. I wouldn’t expect anything else.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:42 am

  7. So, because he never showed his tattoo this proves he was never in a camp?

    That’s not very logical.

    Also, your word choice is deceptive.

    “According to this news article, Elie Wiesel is back in the news as a Holocaust victim, in spite of the fact that he finally admitted, on his death bed, that he was never in any concentration camp.”

    He did nothing of the sort. You are basing this on Carolyn Yeager’s delusions.

    Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 10:31 am

    • I would agree that I don’t think he actually admitted he was never in a camp, perhaps Furtherglory can expand on this point as it is very important. However I don’t think there is much doubt he never had a tattoo. He was very very cagey about showing his arm and never talked about the lack of a tattoo. In the few pics that showed his arm it’s fairly clear there was none.

      Comment by MrB — March 20, 2017 @ 10:43 am

      • Here is an entire thread devoted to this, including pictures of his tattoo:

        http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=26975&hilit=Eli+Wiesel

        Naturally I invite you to join us.

        Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 10:57 am

        • You wrote: “Here is an entire thread devoted to this, including pictures of his tattoo”

          I followed the link that you gave and looked at the photos. I think that these photos show that Elie did not have a tattoo. Besides that, the Skeptic forum is a forum where anyone can write whatever they want, as long as they agree with the owner of the forum. If anyone does not stick to one side of the story, they will be banned from the forum.

          Comment by furtherglory — March 20, 2017 @ 11:23 am

          • “I followed the link that you gave and looked at the photos. I think that these photos show that Elie did not have a tattoo.”

            You can see it on his left forearm. The tattoo is faded but it is still there.

            “Besides that, the Skeptic forum is a forum where anyone can write whatever they want, as long as they agree with the owner of the forum. If anyone did not stick to one side of the story, they will be banned from the forum.”

            Simply not the case. We’ve had deniers on the forum before, some still post but not as often as they used to. Jim couldn’t follow a few simple rules, that’s why he can’t post there anymore.

            Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:37 am

      • During the Hunt trial in San Francisco, Wiesel testified under oath that he had tattoo A7713 — he was not asked to prove this by showing it in court, and he did not volunteer — during his life he must have known there was some controversy re whether or not he had a tattoo, which he could have easily resolved by showing it, as other ‘survivors’ proudly do — but he chose not to do that — in the Hunt trial, he also claimed under oath that everything depicted in his book ‘Night’ was the truth.

        Comment by eah — March 20, 2017 @ 11:24 am

    • You wrote: “So, because he never showed his tattoo, this proves he was never in a camp?”

      There is a photo of Elie on a tour of a concentration camp, taken a few years before he died. The photo shows that he had no tattoo on his arm and no scar where a tattoo had been removed.

      The prisoners had to show their tattoo before they could get their food. The tattoo number was written down so that if this prisoner tried to go through the food line twice, he would be caught and punished.

      You wrote: “He did nothing of the sort. You are basing this on Carolyn Yeager’s delusions.”

      I did my own research on this before Carolyn Yeager got involved and before she put up her website. She contacted me frequently to get information for her blog, when she first started.

      Shortly before he died, Wiesel said that he and his family members hid in Hungary and none of them were ever in a camp. He claimed that his writing was fiction. Elie made many mistakes in his writing, which shows that he was never in a camp.

      Comment by furtherglory — March 20, 2017 @ 10:58 am

      • Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:02 am

        • Yep, here is proof of Elied Weasels tattoo, you can definitely make out the Popeye anchor
          https://wordpress.com/page/disjecta.wordpress.com/869

          Comment by Giordano Bruno — March 20, 2017 @ 6:19 pm

          • Do deniers have selective eyesight?

            Must be.

            Still have a place at Skeptics waiting for you.

            Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 7:17 pm

          • Since Holohoaxers are not the only people able to forge pictures, here is my own version of Wiesel’s tattoo:

            I used an advanced technology to clarify Wiesel’s tattoo and make the word “Holo-fraud” appear on his arm. No, I’m joking. I just altered a photo like any desperate Holocaust believer looking for evidence corroborating his politically-motivated delusions… 😉

            Comment by hermie — March 21, 2017 @ 5:52 am

            • “I used an advanced technology to clarify Wiesel’s tattoo and make the word “Holo-fraud” appear on his arm. No, I’m joking. I just altered a photo like any desperate Holocaust believer looking for evidence corroborating his politically-motivated delusions… ;-)”

              Is that an accusation that I altered the photo?

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 6:08 am

              • No, that French Hasbara Cyber-Warrior Loupi Smith did…

                Comment by hermie — March 21, 2017 @ 6:48 am

                • “No, that French Hasbara Cyber-Warrior Loupi Smith did…”

                  Prove it. You say it’s altered? The burden of proof is on you.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 21, 2017 @ 6:56 am

                • BD wrote: “Prove it.”

                  Are 6 minutes of E-Lie’s immaculate arms from all angles probative enough for you?

                  Comment by hermie — March 21, 2017 @ 8:55 am

                • The video is pretty convincing — his bare left arm is seen many times, and from different angles, nonetheless in adequate light — and never is a tattoo clearly visible — skip ahead to about 4:05, then let the video play — he lifts his arm up, and you get a pretty good close-up view of his left forearm, where the tattoo should be — there is no sign of it — no real sign of it anywhere in the video.

                  Note: for those wondering, the video has no sound.

                  Comment by eah — March 21, 2017 @ 1:15 pm

            • Hey guys. I need some technical help here. How do I post an image in the comments section of someones WordPress post?
              Thanks in advance

              Comment by Giordano Bruno — March 21, 2017 @ 3:57 pm

              • I think that you can just drag and drop the image. That’s how I put photos into my blog posts. Put the photo on the desktop and just drag it into the comment and drop it in.

                Comment by furtherglory — March 21, 2017 @ 5:11 pm

                • Thank you FG I’ll give it a try. I tried copy n paste last night but that didn’t work.

                  Comment by Giordano Bruno — March 21, 2017 @ 5:14 pm

                • Hmmm nope, it doesn’t work.

                  Comment by Giordano Bruno — March 21, 2017 @ 5:20 pm

              • You upload the image to a webserver and then post a link to that image on the webserver. There are plenty of webservers that’ll do this for you. I use postimage:

                https://postimage.io/

                Comment by blake121666 — March 21, 2017 @ 6:19 pm

      • Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:03 am

      • “Shortly before he died, Wiesel said that he and his family members hid in Hungary and none of them were ever in a camp.”

        No, sorry, I don’t see where he actually ever said that.

        Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:04 am

      • I am replying to my own comment to add something:

        https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/elie-wiesel-holocaust-survivor-a7713/

        Note that this blog post was written in 2010. I have been on the case for over 7 years. I have been to Auschwitz and Auschwitz-Birkenau several times. You are a “Johnny-come-lately” who is trying to tell your mother how to milk ducks.

        Comment by furtherglory — March 20, 2017 @ 11:11 am

        • “You are a “Johnny-come-lately” who is trying to tell your mother how to milk ducks.”

          That’s an interesting saying but it has nothing to do with anything.

          You said Eli Wiesel didn’t have a tattoo. I’ve posted two pictures that show he did, indeed, have a tattoo.

          You said that Eli Wiesel admitted he hid out in Hungary or admitted he was never in a camp. This is not the case, he never said either.

          I don’t know if Wiesel lied about any of the details he gave. I’ve never read any of his stuff, nor do I intend to.

          But you cannot say he didn’t have a tattoo because he clearly did. You also cannot say he admitted he was never in a camp because this is not the case.

          Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:33 am

          • You wrote: “But you cannot say he [Elie Wiesel] didn’t have a tattoo because he clearly did. You also cannot say he admitted he was never in a camp because this is not the case.”

            I wrote a blog post about Elie saying, late in life, that he was never in a camp, and that his family hid during the Holocaust. There is a famous photo of him that shows his arm with no tattoo. I am too lazy to search for these old blog posts myself, so you will have to do it yourself.

            Comment by furtherglory — March 20, 2017 @ 11:42 am

            • “I wrote a blog post about Elie saying, late in life, that he was never in a camp, and that his family hid during the Holocaust. There is a famous photo of him that shows his arm with no tattoo. I am too lazy to search for these old blog posts myself, so you will have to do it yourself.”

              But, you did not. I’ve already explained this and posted two photos of his tattoo. Much of what you posted is based on some delusion of Carolyn Yeager.

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 11:53 am

              • You wrote: “Much of what you posted is based on some delusion of Carolyn Yeager.”

                I was studying the Holocaust and writing about it while Carolyn Yeager was painting photos of her cat in a doorway. She got her start in Holocaust writing by reading my website and my blog. She e-mailed me many times, asking for information.

                I spent a lot of time answering her questions in e-mail. She has now been banned from posting comments on my blog, and I don’t want to hear anything about her any more.

                Elie Wiesel is dead and gone and I don’t want to deal with the question of whether or not he has a tattoo on his arm. I don’t believe that Elie was ever in any camp. I believe that he was the world’s greatest liar.

                Comment by furtherglory — March 20, 2017 @ 1:22 pm

                • “Elie Wiesel is dead and gone and I don’t want to deal with the question of whether or not he has a tattoo on his arm. I don’t believe that Elie was ever in any camp. I believe that he was the world’s greatest liar.”

                  Well, you did just post something new on him.

                  You can certainly believe whatever you like. However, your beliefs don’t seem to be based on anything substantial.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 1:28 pm

                • You wrote: “your beliefs don’t seem to be based on anything substantial.”

                  What do you mean by “substantial”? I have been to Auschwitz 3 times, during which I stayed there for several days or for as long as a week.

                  I have been to Dachau around 4 or 5 times. I have lost count. I have been to many other camps, starting in 1970 when I began to travel and study the Holocaust. I have been to the Holocaust museum in Washington, DC.

                  I have many books about the Holocaust, and I have been to several Holocaust conventions. I don’t know what more I can do to study the Holocaust. Before I started studying the Holocaust, I was a “True Believer”. Now, I am no longer a True Believer.

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 20, 2017 @ 1:47 pm

                • “What do you mean by “substantial”? I have been to Auschwitz 3 times, during which I stayed there for several days or for as long as a week.”

                  I’m talking about what you say about Eli Wiesel.

                  The rest, well, you are again entitled to whatever beliefs you want.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — March 20, 2017 @ 1:52 pm

                • You wrote: “I’m talking about what you say about Eli Wiesel.”

                  I have written extensively about Elie Wiesel:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/elie-wiesel/

                  As you can see, my blog posts about Elie Wiesel would fill a book.

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/elie-wiesel/page/2/

                  Comment by furtherglory — March 20, 2017 @ 6:43 pm


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