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April 25, 2017

Did the Nazis have “transit camps” or only “death camps”?

Filed under: Uncategorized — furtherglory @ 8:01 am

One of the readers of my blog wrote in a comment that the Nazis did not have “transit camps” where Jews were sent instead of being sent to a “death camp”.

Here are the exact words in the comment:

“I will wonder why deniers keep calling camps “transit camps” when they can’t prove anyone was ever transited through them.”

This is an excellent question. I did a search of all my blog posts and found that there were many camps which the Nazis referred to as “durchgang” camps. This was their word for a transit camp.

Prisoners stayed in a “durchgang camp” for only a day or two before being sent to a permanent camp.

I have written about these “durchgang camps” on these blog posts:

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/06/26/was-chelmno-a-transit-camp-or-an-extermination-camp/

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/was-treblinka-really-a-transit-camp/

https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2015/11/07/the-story-of-treblinka-transit-camp-or-extermination-center/

44 Comments »

  1. Where did they go?
    Plenty of the Jews died by infectuous disease especially at the end of the war. Correct figures are not available. Only yesterday it was announced in Holland that one thousand jews and others were not at Westerbork (transit camp). They found out when digitallizing the existing data.

    The Germans in the Rheinwiesenlager, also died by the thousands.
    But there were some 50 of them. In honour of Genl Eisenhower it is fair to call them The Eisenhower death camps. Of some of the deathcamps it is well documented. Men over 70 and boys under 17 stood little chance. In the morning the dead were collected and in smaller towns near the existing graveyards. In some very muddy death camps men drowned in latrines or in their own dugout. If there were many the Americans would collect them and with the help of bulldozers they made them disappear under the mud.
    As said conditions varied from camp to camp.
    Some farmers have reported skulls and bones in their fields.
    If such a field is reported further research is restricted to officials so that may take years

    Comment by Dr Kim — April 30, 2017 @ 12:24 am

  2. They had death camps.

    Comment by Denying-History — April 26, 2017 @ 11:00 am

    • DH….

      What would you call the Eisenhower camps that held around a million or so German soldiers in them is squalor conditions resulting in the death of hundreds of thousands possibly a million. Seems to have been a death camp for those that died.
      Interesting point….if you died in a camp it was a death camp if you survived in a camp would you call it a life camp?

      JR

      Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 26, 2017 @ 12:02 pm

      • “What would you call the Eisenhower camps that held around a million or so German soldiers in them is squalor conditions resulting in the death of hundreds of thousands possibly a million. Seems to have been a death camp for those that died.
        Interesting point….if you died in a camp it was a death camp if you survived in a camp would you call it a life camp?”

        Never happened, Jim.

        http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=27306&hilit=Eisenhower+death+camps

        Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 26, 2017 @ 12:13 pm

        • Of course it didn’t happen…….if so …..WHERE DID THEY GO? LOL

          jr

          Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 26, 2017 @ 1:16 pm

          • “Of course it didn’t happen…….if so …..WHERE DID THEY GO? LOL”

            Home.

            Now, I’ll ask you:
            If hundreds of thousands of German POWs died (or even a million), where are the mass graves?

            Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 26, 2017 @ 1:20 pm

            • They were cremated, and the ashes were spread all over the roads, and in the rivers, and swamps….
              Just like the Jews…..LOL

              JR

              Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 26, 2017 @ 1:30 pm

              • “They were cremated, and the ashes were spread all over the roads, and in the rivers, and swamps….
                Just like the Jews…..LOL”

                That’s very amusing, Jim.

                Your humor tells me that you don’t actually believe in “Eisenhower’s Death Camps.”

                Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 26, 2017 @ 2:05 pm

                • I believe in “Eisenhower’s death camps”. I wrote about it on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/eisenhowers-death-camps-a-stain-on-american-history/

                  Comment by furtherglory — April 26, 2017 @ 2:09 pm

                • “I believe in ”Eisenhower’s death camps”. I wrote about it on this blog post:
                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2013/01/29/eisenhowers-death-camps-a-stain-on-american-history/

                  They never happened, FG. I looked into it, those camps were miserable places and are a stain on American history. But it’s utterly ridiculous to say a million German POWs or even 100,000 POWs died in those camps, There’s no evidence for it.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 26, 2017 @ 2:29 pm

                • Maybe you can show me the evidence in Auschwitz Krema one where they said 700 people were cremated and killed in that room that had wooden doors with glass panels. And all that was supposed to happen in two days. Of course we must mention the holes in the roof that weren’t there in the original building but we chipped in later, gee I wonder why that happened.
                  The Jews have made up a great horror Disneyland story and people want to believe it good for them bad for truth.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 26, 2017 @ 2:34 pm

                • “Maybe you can show me the evidence in Auschwitz Krema one where they said 700 people were cremated and killed in that room that had wooden doors with glass panels. And all that was supposed to happen in two days. Of course we must mention the holes in the roof that weren’t there in the original building but we chipped in later, gee I wonder why that happened.
                  The Jews have made up a great horror Disneyland story and people want to believe it good for them bad for truth.”

                  Jim, did the Tangent Man just come and smack you on the top of your head? What does that have to do with Transit Camps or Eisenhower Death Camps?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 26, 2017 @ 2:55 pm

                • The issue has to be debated and should be, the Holohoax on the other hand is not debatable in 21 countries and growing.
                  Why can German Deaths be debated and not Jews. Something wrong here. But the Germans are not collecting reparation extortion money the Jews are.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 26, 2017 @ 2:11 pm

            • You wrote: “If hundreds of thousands of German POWs died (or even a million), where are the mass graves?”

              The German POWs died of starvation and lack of shelter. The POWs had to dig holes for shelter and sometimes the shelters collapsed. Long ago, when I was living in Germany, I spoke to some of the survivors of Eisenhower’s camp. I also spoke to German soldiers who had been prisoners in American POW camps and they told about how badly they were treated.

              I wrote about Eisenhower’s death camps on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/EasternGermany/Gotha/

              Comment by furtherglory — April 26, 2017 @ 2:30 pm

              • “The German POWs died of starvation and lack of shelter. The POWs had to dig holes for shelter and sometimes the shelters collapsed. Long ago, when I was living in Germany, I spoke to some of the survivors of Eisenhower’s camp. I also spoke to German soldiers who had been prisoners in American POW camps and they told about how badly they were treated.”

                That doesn’t mean that a million German POWs died.

                Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 26, 2017 @ 2:53 pm

      • Rizoli… You should try and actually read about these camps. You might learn the open field photographs were temporary enclosures.

        Comment by Denying-History — April 29, 2017 @ 10:35 pm

        • You wrote: “You might learn the open field photographs were temporary enclosures.”

          How soon did the Americans build permanent enclosures where the German POWs could live in barracks, instead of living in holes in the ground?

          Comment by furtherglory — April 30, 2017 @ 7:22 am

          • “How soon did the Americans build permanent enclosures where the German POWs could live in barracks, instead of living in holes in the ground?”

            Comment by Denying-History — May 4, 2017 @ 10:00 am

          • “How soon did the Americans build permanent enclosures where the German POWs could live in barracks, instead of living in holes in the ground?”

            Took a few months. It depends on what camp you are specifically talking about.

            Comment by Denying-History — May 4, 2017 @ 10:01 am

        • You wrote: “You might learn the open field photographs were temporary enclosures.”

          Can you name these temporary enclosures so that we can know what you are talking about?

          Comment by furtherglory — April 30, 2017 @ 7:36 am

          • “Can you name these temporary enclosures so that we can know what you are talking about?”

            Do you mean major camps that transitioned or camps that acted as a temporary area?

            Comment by Denying-History — May 4, 2017 @ 10:08 am

  3. Here is what the purported station master of Treblinka Village Station said about how trains entered the alleged death camp Treblinka II:

    “Twenty wagons were uncoupled from the train, and a shunting engine began to push them along the spur-line into the camp. A short while later it returned empty. This procedure was repeated twice more, until all sixty wagons had been shunted into the camp, and out again. Empty they returned to Warsaw for more ‘settlers’.”

    This quote can be found, among other places, at:

    http://www.deathcamps.org/treblinka/zabecki.html

    Does this sound like a “transit camp”? A 60-car train comes in and they have to chop it up into 20-car trains and shunt it down a spur to T-II? That suggests that T-II is a destination.

    Eric Hunt’s testimonies are not talking about T-II – which is what we are interested in of course – the alleged “death camp”. They are referring to Treblinka Station in Treblinka Village. But even THAT wasn’t a “durchgang camp” that FG is confusing people about. Treblinka Station had 1 rail line and no sleeping accommodations for anyone. Treblinka Station was apparently a transit point for many Jews. The camp Treblinka II was never a transit station though. There is no evidence that any Jew ever transited through T-II.

    Those who claim to have stayed any more than hours at “Treblinka” must have “Treblinka” mixed up with Malkinia. Malkinia was the hub further up the rail line. Persons going TO Treblinka (Village, I, & II) would transit through Malkinia. Malkinia was the main stopover point to many places – in particular the Treblinka(s) we all know and love.

    Comment by blake121666 — April 25, 2017 @ 7:14 pm

  4. Sure there were plenty of Durchgangslager or transit camps. And that is why so many people died on the way. There was no need to kill them: transport them again and again

    Comment by Dr Kim — April 25, 2017 @ 11:33 am

  5. In Hunt’s video ‘The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax’, you can see a number of “survivors” tell how they transited thru Treblinka — stopped there for a few hours or a couple of days, then were sent on to another camp.

    Comment by eah — April 25, 2017 @ 11:29 am

  6. “All the truth about Treblinka is here…..
    holocausthandbooks.com/dl/08-t.pdf”

    Nope.

    Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 25, 2017 @ 11:20 am

    • You refuse to read the Treblinka book by Mottogno??? Why?
      Best book out there to dismantle your HoloHuxster views who think that 6 million Jews were killed in (fake) homicidal gas chambers with a bug spray or whatever silly thing they used to mass kill them. Or as they say 1 million with bug spray….2 million diesel gas, and 3 million shot and died by natural causes…..LOL None of which can be proven. Actual Total deaths maybe 500k give or take half Jews….Plenty of them alive to tell they silly and over the top stories.
      I think FG and the rest of us have debunked you and the rest of the HoloHoax exterminationist liars and fraudsters.
      Back to the Skeptics rat hole for you…..actually Jeff you seem like a likable guy bit just brainwashed.
      One of these day you will come over to the light like FG did, right now your on the Dark Side of the issue.

      JR

      Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 25, 2017 @ 11:36 am

      • “You refuse to read the Treblinka book by Mottogno??? Why?”

        Coz I read the Sobibor one and it bored me to tears while simultaneously pissing me off.

        “Best book out there to dismantle your HoloHuxster views who think that 6 million Jews were killed in (fake) homicidal gas chambers”

        Damnit, Jim, if you can’t trouble yourself to learn real history then I can’t help you.
        Nobody ever said 6 million Jews died in gas chambers. Holy shit, Lord give me strength.

        “with a bug spray or whatever silly thing they used to mass kill them.”

        Jesus, Jim, ZB is not bug spray.

        “Or as they say 1 million with bug spray….2 million diesel gas,”

        We’ve already established that the engines used at the Reinhard Camps were petrol and not diesel. Do you really want to have that discussion again?

        “and 3 million shot and died by natural causes…..LOL None of which can be proven.”

        Well, you can’t prove where the Jews went. Kinda hard to say Jews were transited somewhere if you don’t know where they went.

        “Actual Total deaths maybe 500k give or take half Jews….”

        Off by about 5 million.

        “Plenty of them alive to tell they silly and over the top stories.
        I think FG and the rest of us have debunked you and the rest of the HoloHoax exterminationist liars and fraudsters.”

        Debunked????
        😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

        “Back to the Skeptics rat hole for you…..”

        Why, I’m sorta all over the place now, Jim.

        “actually Jeff you seem like a likable guy bit just brainwashed.”

        Thank you. I think.

        “One of these day you will come over to the light like FG did, right now your on the Dark Side of the issue.”

        Does that make me the Darth Vader of the believers?

        Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 25, 2017 @ 12:31 pm

      • You wrote: “You refuse to read the Treblinka book by Mottogno???”

        Mottogno is a Holocaust expert. His writing is not hateful. He just gives the facts. His books are suitable for deniers and also for true believers.

        Comment by furtherglory — April 25, 2017 @ 12:33 pm

  7. Great song about a great people…

    Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 25, 2017 @ 9:04 am

    • I prefer this Saga:

      Though, let’s face it, the 80’s style in clothing was hideous.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 25, 2017 @ 11:23 am

  8. When will the HoloHuxsters prove to us there were homicidal gas chambers operated by the Germans when there has been NO proof of them existing or even set up in the manner the HoloHuxsters say in any of the camps that have been turned into Horror Disney Land camps.

    JR

    For the truth
    Holocausthandbooks.com
    CODOH.COM
    CCFIILE.COM
    IHR.ORG
    VHO.ORG

    Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 25, 2017 @ 8:51 am

  9. Good question and one that is very easy to answer. We know they had transit camps but we don’t know they had death camps.

    Your visitor who claims there is no proof of anyone going through death camps and thus they were only death camps is nonsense, and shows he’s either not well read or denies the facts. There is plenty of witness statements clearly stating they went through Treblinka by the trainload. Treblinka therefore, and others too, was a transit camp. It’s the current Eric Hunt escape strategy where he states that as deniers cannot show conclusively where these people went they must have been murdered. Complete tosh of course. More realistically one should state for the record that as no bodies in mass graves have ever been shown to exist in any so called death camp they were no more than work camps combined with transit camps.

    This logic stuff should be easy to follow even for the zionist brigade.

    Comment by MrB — April 25, 2017 @ 8:49 am

    • “our visitor who claims there is no proof of anyone going through death camps and thus they were only death camps is nonsense, and shows he’s either not well read or denies the facts.”

      😂

      What “facts?”

      “There is plenty of witness statements clearly stating they went through Treblinka by the trainload”

      What witnesses?
      Please provide names and their statements.
      Also, please provide actual proof where the Jews sent through the Action Reinhard Camps and Chelmno wound up.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 25, 2017 @ 10:17 am

      • check the internet films made by steven spielberg about holocaust witnesses, many sat they went through treblinka to other camps. British intercepts clearly showed mass movements in and out of auschwitz. indeed anne frank is proof.

        btw i’m still looking for those mass graves…

        Comment by MrB — April 25, 2017 @ 10:25 am

        • “check the internet films made by steven spielberg about holocaust witnesses, many sat they went through treblinka to other camps.”

          Names, please. So I can check this for myself.

          “British intercepts clearly showed mass movements in and out of auschwitz. indeed anne frank is proof.”

          Who said anything about Auschwitz?
          I wanted to know about the Action Reinhard Camps Chelmno. Where is the evidence that shows where these Jews wound up after they “transited” through the above camps?

          “btw i’m still looking for those mass graves…”

          By the way I’m still waiting for some denier to actually prove the above camps were “transit camps.”

          And MrB will vanish without answering my questions.

          Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 25, 2017 @ 10:57 am

          • Still looking for those homicidal gas chambers…..and the mass graves at Treblinka and some of the other camps.

            JR

            Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 25, 2017 @ 11:01 am

            • “Still looking for those homicidal gas chambers…..and the mass graves at Treblinka and some of the other camps”

              Still looking for deniers to provide proof that the ARC and Chelmno were transit camps.

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — April 25, 2017 @ 11:06 am

              • All the truth about Treblinka is here…..
                holocausthandbooks.com/dl/08-t.pdf

                JR

                Comment by Jim Rizoli — April 25, 2017 @ 11:15 am


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