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June 28, 2017

Who blew up the buildings at Auschwitz-Birkenau — the Germans or the Russians?

Filed under: Auschwitz, Holocaust, Uncategorized — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 4:45 pm

I am writing this blog post in answer to an argument that is going on in the comment section of my blog.

This quote is from the comments:

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“….the Germans started breaking down those buildings [at AuschwitzBirkenau] before the Soviets got there.

You and FG’s “theory” that the Soviets blew up those buildings matches no reality, Jim.

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The following quote, regarding this subject, is from my website: [My website is kosher — written before I became a Holocaust denier.]

Begin quote from my website:

Old photo of Crematorium III at Auschwitz-Birkenau

In May 1944, the railroad tracks at Auschwitz-Birkenau were extended from the train station into the camp so that the trains carrying the Hungarian Jews could be brought inside the camp. The old photo above shows the tracks a few feet from the 10-foot high barbed wire fence around Krema III.

According to a book [which I purchased from the Auschwitz Museum], Crematorium III was blown up by the Nazis on Jan. 20, 1945, the same day that Crematorium II was destroyed [allegedly by the Nazis].

A book from the U.S. Holocaust Museum entitled “The World Must Know” by Michael Berenbaum says that “Soviet troops entered Birkenau on January 18, 1945.” January 18th was the same day that 60,000 prisoners were being death-marched out of Auschwitz-Birkenau by the Nazis.

Krema II and Krema III were both T-shaped brick buildings which were mirror images. Each of these buildings had an [alleged] underground gas chamber where Jews were murdered with Zyklon-B, a poison gas that was also used for delousing the clothing at Auschwitz-Birkenau. Both buildings are now nothing but ruins; they were [allegedly] blown up by the fleeing Nazis on Jan. 20, 1945, two days after the camp was abandoned [and the prisoners were marched out].

End quote from my website

Allegedly, the Nazis came back two days after they had abandoned the camp, and destroyed these buildings, so as to leave no evidence behind. Or was it the Jewish prisoners who destroyed these buildings in order prove their future Holocaust story? Or maybe the Russians destroyed the buildings! Who knows!

 

28 Comments »

  1. Underground makes no sense. How could it completely vented?

    Comment by Tim — June 30, 2017 @ 3:59 pm

    • “Underground makes no sense. How could it completely vented?”

      Tim, the gas chambers had ventilation systems. Besides, we are talking about barren rooms, no carpet or furniture. Also, there was no concern for the living Jews brought into those chambers.

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — June 30, 2017 @ 4:08 pm

      • You wrote: “the gas chambers had ventilation systems.”

        I have photos of the gas chamber in the main camp on this page of my website, written before I became a denier.
        http://www.scrapbookpages.com/AuschwitzScrapbook/Tour/Auschwitz1/Auschwitz07.html

        The web page cited above has photos of the vents on the roof of the gas chamber.

        Comment by furtherglory — June 30, 2017 @ 4:34 pm

        • FG. What was the proverbial “I saw the light” moment for you with the holo? For myself,it was my obsession with the numbers and how the Jews could never stick with any one number. That’s what lead me to dig for other stuff.

          Comment by Tim — July 1, 2017 @ 3:02 am

      • I’ve never seen one. The first thing that comes to mind with me,is a root cellar. If these things were built like one,I don’t see how the gas could be effective. These things were below the surface,so it’s gonna be a lot cooler. From what I’ve read,Z needs heat to be effective. One thing that gets me about the pics. There’s a huge ass blue stain from the Z,at the bottom of the wall. That makes no sense. The molecules in heat are spread out. That’s why the cool air can push the heat up. With it doing that,how is that much Z,gonna be able to gather that low in that area. If anything,the dark,heavily stained areas should be up high.

        Comment by Tim — July 1, 2017 @ 2:33 am

        • “I’ve never seen one. The first thing that comes to mind with me,is a root cellar. If these things were built like one,I don’t see how the gas could be effective.”

          Why would you think of a root cellar? Tim, these rooms were originally designed as morgues. Are root cellars the same thing as morgues?

          “These things were below the surface,so it’s gonna be a lot cooler. From what I’ve read,Z needs heat to be effective.”

          There were heating systems for the underground rooms. Where that fails humans produce their own heat. A room warms up rapidly when it is sealed and there are a thousand people in it, Tim.

          “One thing that gets me about the pics. There’s a huge ass blue stain from the Z,at the bottom of the wall. That makes no sense. The molecules in heat are spread out. That’s why the cool air can push the heat up. With it doing that,how is that much Z,gonna be able to gather that low in that area. If anything,the dark,heavily stained areas should be up high.”

          What room are you talking about?

          Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 1, 2017 @ 7:31 am

          • Stop acting ,so damned piss ignorant. This was a subterranean complex,correct. That’s what a root cellar is slick. I don’t give a shit if they’re storing vegetables or stiffs in the damned thing. I’m referring to the structure itself. Understand now?

            Comment by Tim — July 1, 2017 @ 3:24 pm

            • “Stop acting ,so damned piss ignorant. This was a subterranean complex,correct. That’s what a root cellar is slick. I don’t give a shit if they’re storing vegetables or stiffs in the damned thing. I’m referring to the structure itself. Understand now?”

              There are differences between morgues and root cellars, Tim. This was built as a morgue to start with. How many root cellars do you know that have heating systems installed?
              Also, like I said, the rooms were designed to be ventilated…which they were…they also had heaters installed. Now, I kinda remember that the heaters malfunctioned or never worked correctly. But, as I said, that doesn’t matter. If you seal enough people in an air tight room the room will heat on its own. Also, the boiling point, or the point at which cyanide starts to evaporate, is low. So, it didn’t need to be that warm for the cyanide to evaporate into the air.

              Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 1, 2017 @ 4:58 pm

              • You missed my point . I don’t give a shit if it was a morgue or a Texas whorehouse. Do you see my juxtaposition here. Both of these structures are subterranean . Partially or completely. I’m gonna accept that it was a morgue instead of a gas hut. Hebs are so full of shit anyway.

                Comment by Tim — July 1, 2017 @ 8:23 pm

                • “You missed my point . I don’t give a shit if it was a morgue or a Texas whorehouse. Do you see my juxtaposition here. Both of these structures are subterranean.”

                  So what? Are you saying it couldn’t be used as a gas chamber? You are wrong.

                  “Partially or completely. I’m gonna accept that it was a morgue instead of a gas hut.”

                  I’m sorry to disappoint you but it was a gas chamber.

                  “Hebs are so full of shit anyway.”

                  What a brilliant observation.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 1, 2017 @ 8:28 pm

                • You’re missing my point slick. Forget wether this may or may not have been a gas hut. You store vegetables in a root cellar. That don’t have dick to do with anything . If there’s too much obfuscation here,then focus on this. Both of these structures share one thing in common. They are subterainian. Yeah. Jews are shit. South Florida . Jew heaven . You think the Klan is racist. I ain’t never seen a more condescending,racist group of assholes in my life. Racial remarks about,Haitians,Cubans,African Americans,etc., all courtesy of the south Florida hebs. Feel sorry for the Hebs. They’ve been f–led at every turn. Check out Irv Ruben and Earl Krugel. These 2 candy ass mutha f–kers thought it would be cool,to try and blow up a mosque in Culver City,California. Irv Ruben was chairman of the Jew Defense league. So he was chairman of Jew KKK. ATF caught up with their ass. They were both sentenced to time in federal lockdown. Poor irv didn’t even get that far. He showed how big of a pussy he was. Offed himself in the L A County jail. Earl actually survived 3 day at the Phoenix FCI . Fourth day he got his head bashed in by a brick totin AB. Good. One more worthless piece of shit Jew off the face of this planet. So this place was a gas hut. Glad to see you were there. Hey if history says it,then it’s got to be the truth. People are f–kin dumb. They believe everything they’re told. History is written by the victors. They’ll say what they want. It don’t have to be accurate or truthfull. They have their own agenda. I didn’t always deny the holo,but now I’m running across to much conflicting BS. You can have your opinion on this shit,just like I do. I’m still waiting for someone to give me the reason,holo denial laws exist . Usually when someone goes that extent,they’re trying to hide something. Why else would hey breakout the thought police?

                  Comment by Tim — July 2, 2017 @ 3:29 am

                • @Tim
                  “You’re missing my point slick. Forget wether this may or may not have been a gas hut. You store vegetables in a root cellar. That don’t have dick to do with anything . If there’s too much obfuscation here,then focus on this. Both of these structures share one thing in common. They are subterainian.”

                  And, what of it?

                  “Yeah. Jews are shit. South Florida . Jew heaven . You think the Klan is racist. I ain’t never seen a more condescending,racist group of assholes in my life. Racial remarks about,Haitians,Cubans,African Americans,etc., all courtesy of the south Florida hebs. Feel sorry for the Hebs. They’ve been f–led at every turn. Check out Irv Ruben and Earl Krugel. These 2 candy ass mutha f–kers thought it would be cool,to try and blow up a mosque in Culver City,California. Irv Ruben was chairman of the Jew Defense league. So he was chairman of Jew KKK. ATF caught up with their ass. They were both sentenced to time in federal lockdown. Poor irv didn’t even get that far. He showed how big of a pussy he was. Offed himself in the L A County jail. Earl actually survived 3 day at the Phoenix FCI . Fourth day he got his head bashed in by a brick totin AB. Good. One more worthless piece of shit Jew off the face of this planet. So this place was a gas hut. Glad to see you were there. Hey if history says it,then it’s got to be the truth. People are f–kin dumb. They believe everything they’re told. History is written by the victors. They’ll say what they want. It don’t have to be accurate or truthfull.”

                  I don’t really care about this bit.

                  “They have their own agenda. I didn’t always deny the holo,but now I’m running across to much conflicting BS. You can have your opinion on this shit,just like I do.”

                  It isn’t an opinion, it’s history versus whatever horse shit deniers are trying to peddle.

                  “I’m still waiting for someone to give me the reason,holo denial laws exist . Usually when someone goes that extent,they’re trying to hide something. Why else would hey breakout the thought police?”

                  No, Tim, the countries that enact these laws are trying to stop the spread of hatred. I don’t really agree with it.
                  Besides, why don’t deniers whine about laws criminalizing Holdomor Denial or the Denial of Communist crimes?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 4, 2017 @ 12:20 pm

                • What ? Stop the spread the spread of hate. The government cares for people now . Peoples motives are rarely selfless. Stop the spread of hate. That is the most piss ignorant excuse ( it’s just that . An excuse. It don’t qualify for a logical explanation ). So you’re gonna tell me,the government is free to regulate the human condition. When’s George Orwell gonna show up?

                  Blood,Land,Honor and Faithfulness. They’re Neo Nazi. They’re a splinter group of the Skins. Yes Virginia,they’re full of hate. Let’s arrest them. They’re spreading hate. My bad. I forgot. Unless they exclusively spread andpractice hate against the Hebs,they’re organization can go on. Here’s the cool part. They’re in Belgium. Yew haw hillbilly. Belgium has Holo laws.

                  Of course you don’t want to discuss Eatl Krugel and his girlfriend Irv Ruben. You might have to admit the Hebs are not so docile. You might have to admit the douchebags at the Jew Defense League are racist assholes. They were caught commiting a crime that was based on “hate” ( there’s that word you said they’re trying to stop the spread of). Planning to send a package to U S Representative Darrell Issa of California. A mosque in Culver City,California. Guess what. Irv’s fat ass was the chairman of the Jew Defense League. So clearly the JDL condones hatred toward other groups. Yet we’re gonna come up with holo denial laws to stop the spread of hate. JDL represents Jews. Give me an intelligent answer as to why holo denial laws exist. Not some half assed,stop the spread of hate excuse.

                  Comment by Tim — July 4, 2017 @ 2:20 pm

                • “Of course you don’t want to discuss Eatl Krugel and his girlfriend Irv Ruben. You might have to admit the Hebs are not so docile. You might have to admit the douchebags at the Jew Defense League are racist assholes. They were caught commiting a crime that was based on ”hate” ( there’s that word you said they’re trying to stop the spread of). Planning to send a package to U S Representative Darrell Issa of California. A mosque in Culver City,California. Guess what. Irv’s fat ass was the chairman of the Jew Defense League. So clearly the JDL condones hatred toward other groups.”

                  What’s to discuss? You’ve already brought up the fact that they were caught. And? You might have an argument if the Feds cut them loose but they didn’t.

                  “Yet we’re gonna come up with holo denial laws to stop the spread of hate. JDL represents Jews. Give me an intelligent answer as to why holo denial laws exist. Not some half assed,stop the spread of hate excuse.”

                  What do you want me to say, Tim? The answer I gave you is my understanding. I don’t agree with such laws and I’ve said so…..many times.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 4, 2017 @ 2:29 pm

                • Please. Give me an explination other than,”stop the spread of hate”. Yeah,I know Krugel and his girlfriend weren’t cut loose. Irv bumped himself off in the L A County Jail. His ass was probably constantly passed around by the Latin Lords or Crips. Earls bitch ass was dropped in the yard at Phoenix FCI by a brick carrying AB. I bring that shit up,because why should we protect their precious holo BS,when they (the Hebs) don’t give two shits about others. F–k them and their BS holo. I’ve told people before,I actually believed in all this shit when I found this site. My views changed,because there’s too many inconsistencies. They all come from the Jews . The biggest one for me. They don’t know how many Jews died . In 70 some odd years,they can’t nail down a number? Give or take a couple thousand,okay. That’s not the case. I’ve seen it go from 6 mill to 850,000. Obfuscation is the best way to hide a lie.

                  Comment by Tim — July 4, 2017 @ 2:39 pm

                • “Please. Give me an explination other than,”stop the spread of hate”.

                  Oh, good God, Tim. Why don’t you just tell me what you think they mean?

                  “Yeah,I know Krugel and his girlfriend weren’t cut loose. Irv bumped himself off in the L A County Jail. His ass was probably constantly passed around by the Latin Lords or Crips. Earls bitch ass was dropped in the yard at Phoenix FCI by a brick carrying AB.”

                  Ok, and????

                  “I bring that shit up,because why should we protect their precious holo BS,when they (the Hebs) don’t give two shits about others.”

                  This is what happens when you don’t broaden your mind and depend on FG to teach you her exclusive world view. I’ve said it before, Tim, it would probably benefit you to do your own research.
                  Why do you judge Jewish people by the actions of the few? Good ol’ Germans and Anglo-Saxons did and do shitty things to others, Tim. Same with black people or Hispanics, Asians, whatever. There is good and bad in everyone.

                  “F–k them and their BS holo. I’ve told people before,I actually believed in all this shit when I found this site. My views changed,because there’s too many inconsistencies.”

                  There are inconsistencies in everything, Tim. Nothing is perfect. Why do you assume historians and researchers are?

                  “They all come from the Jews .”

                  ALL of them?

                  “The biggest one for me. They don’t know how many Jews died .”

                  Between 5-6 million, Tim. Sorry I can’t tie that up for you in a little bow.

                  ” In 70 some odd years,they can’t nail down a number? Give or take a couple thousand,okay. That’s not the case. I’ve seen it go from 6 mill to 850,000. Obfuscation is the best way to hide a lie.”

                  WTF are you talking about? Name any mainstream historian who says “850,000” died.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 4, 2017 @ 2:56 pm

                • You wrote: “This is what happens when you don’t broaden your mind and depend on FG to teach you her exclusive world view.”

                  I don’t think that I have an “exclusive world view”. There are billions of people who have the same world view, but they are not blogging daily, as I am.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 4, 2017 @ 3:28 pm

                • You forgot to mention you’re a journalist . That means you double check your sources

                  Comment by Tim — July 5, 2017 @ 1:06 am

                • You wrote: “Why do you judge Jewish people by the actions of the few? Good ol’ Germans and Anglo-Saxons did and do shitty things to others, Tim. Same with black people or Hispanics, Asians, whatever. There is good and bad in everyone.”

                  Jews don’t have Hell, as a Jewish character on the TV show “The Big Bang Theory” pointed out. That’s why Jews commit more crimes than people who think that they will go to hell if they commit a crime.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 4, 2017 @ 3:32 pm

                • “Jews don’t have Hell, as a Jewish character on the TV show ”The Big Bang Theory” pointed out. That’s why Jews commit more crimes than people who think that they will go to hell is they commit a crime.”

                  LOL, that’s laughable, FG. Where are the statistics that show Jews commit more crimes than anyone else?

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 4, 2017 @ 4:13 pm

                • You wrote: “Where are the statistics that show Jews commit more crimes than anyone else?”

                  I did a search to find these statistics, but could not find anything. Of course, the Jews will not allow these statistics to be published.

                  Comment by furtherglory — July 5, 2017 @ 11:24 am

                • “I did a search to find these statistics, but could not find anything. Of course, the Jews will not allow these statistics to be published.”

                  😂😂😂
                  Of course not.

                  Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — July 5, 2017 @ 11:36 am

                • I know you’re not a believer FG. As a human that is most certainly your right. The Jews however have to explain to the Ol Man when they stand before him,why they didn’t accept his son. He don’t have a sense of humor when it comes to that . They’ll find out first hand,if Dante was correct about hell.

                  Comment by Tim — July 5, 2017 @ 1:11 am

                • This is probably gonna semantics or something along that line. Talk about something where we can get somewhere. University of Alabama just gave Sabian an extension as Crimson Tides head coach,for another 3 years. He got a 4 mill dollar signing bonus in addition to his base salary of 6.7 mill. The only college coach making more than him,is Harbaugh from University of Michigan. Couple years back,Sabian was talking about leaving U of A. I live right in the middle of A&M territory. Bad place for me to be when the Tide stomps the Aggies.

                  Comment by Tim — July 5, 2017 @ 1:04 am

  2. Thanks ! Your post made me able to do this : https://twitter.com/PHDNM/status/880412180264480768

    Comment by Noel Greld — June 29, 2017 @ 2:32 pm

  3. Furtherglory wrote: ” the Nazis came back two days after they had abandoned the camp, and destroyed these buildings, so as to leave no evidence behind. ”

    Or rather, so as to leave no food for Soviet atrocity propaganda behind (https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2017/06/27/the-glass-door-into-the-auschwitz-gas-chamber/#comment-80919). But Soviet propagandists needed no food for their atrocity propaganda lies anyway. That’s why they first claimed that the alleged Auschwitz gas chambers were located in Monowitz (“[t]he stationary gas chambers in the eastern part of the camp”) and had been “restructured, even little turrets and other architectural embellishments were added so that they would look like innocent garages” (The Factory of Death at Auschwitz, by Soviet propagandist Boris Polevoï, [organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] Pravda, February 2, 1945). That’s what they ‘reported’ (among other things such as “the electric conveyor belt, on which hundreds of people were simultaneously electrocuted” and “special transportable apparatuses for killing children”) in early February 1945, i.e. before some Jews finally opted for the ruins of the Birkenau crematoria as the alleged gassing center of “the factory of death at Auschwitz.”

    Comment by hermie — June 29, 2017 @ 6:01 am

  4. https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?p=62114#p62114

    http://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/pressac/technique-and-operation/image_files/260-01.jpe

    So, again, the Germans started destroying the Kremas before the Russians got there.
    I even used Mr. B’s favorite forum, CODOH.

    Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — June 28, 2017 @ 7:30 pm


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