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August 24, 2017

“most people on this planet have no clue as to how German Nazis went about their lethal business”

Filed under: Auschwitz, Germany, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 5:04 pm

The title of this blog post is a quote from something that Bill O’Reilly said on television.

You can read the news article about Bill O’Reilly and what he said about the Nazis at http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/08/21/bill_o_reilly_thinks_trump_doesn_t_know_about_the_holocaust.html

The news article about the Nazis starts off with this quote:

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As hard as these past several days have been for people who’d prefer to have a consistently anti-Nazi president, they have been even more trying for those tasked with defending our commander in chief.

One of those defenders is Bill O’Reilly, the former Fox News host ousted from the network for the same behavior that somehow did not prevent Donald Trump’s election.

O’Reilly now hosts his own podcast, but apparently felt the need to address the controversy over Trump’s response to Charlottesville via the written word.

End quote

The news article then continues with this quote:

Begin quote

Trump’s defenders have generally taken three approaches: They have argued that of course Trump hates Nazis but the media is making a big deal over nothing; or that the real issue is Confederate heritage, which deserves real respect; or that in the 19th century many evil racists were Democrats, so there. (The last two arguments don’t really mesh, but never mind.)

O’Reilly, however, takes an entirely original and dare I say bold tack. The problem isn’t Democrats or the media. And it certainly isn’t a racist and bigoted president. No, it’s a lack of historical knowledge.

End quote

I have written about Bill O’Reilly on my scrapbookpages.com website.

The following information is from my website:

The thing that angered Bill O’Reilly and so many other Americans was that Churchill compared the 9/11 victims to Nazis, which was O’Reilly’s interpretation of Churchill’s statement that the victims were “little Eichmanns.”

Churchill did not use the full name of Adolf Eichmann. He just assumed that everyone knew who Eichmann was. The name Eichmann became a household word in 1961 when he was put on trial in Israel for Crimes Against Humanity for his part in the genocide of 6 million Jews during World War II.

What Churchill didn’t realize is that most people don’t know that Eichmann was not the Mastermind of the Holocaust, but rather a low-level technocrat whose job was to make sure that the trains to the camps ran on time.

Comparing the victims to Eichmann, Churchill wrote that the people working in the Twin Towers were the “technocratic corps at the very heart of America’s global financial empire.”

In other words, they were mere cogs in a big machine, the unimportant little guys behind the scene, just like Adolf Eichmann who had no authority in Nazi Germany and was not a decision maker.

Ernst Kaltenbrunner, who was 6 levels above Eichmann in the Reich Security Main Office, was put on trial at the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal and specifically charged with gassing the Jews. Eichmann was the head of the Jewish Department in the Reich Security Main Office, but he was not important enough to make the cut.

Eichmann got the job because he and Kaltenbrunner had been friends from their school days in Linz, Austria, the city that was also the boyhood home of Adolf Hitler.

So unimportant was Eichmann that he did not even leave Germany to escape prosecution until 1950.

So if Eichmann was such small potatoes, how did he rate a trial in Israel?

Eichmann was kidnapped in 1960 from Argentina, where he was a citizen, by the Israeli Mossad; he was sneaked out of the country on a plane, disguised as an unconscious patient on a stretcher. There were hundreds of bureaucrats and technicians who were at the same level in the Nazi hierarchy as Eichmann.

The reason that Eichmann was put on trial was because he was the man who had typed up the minutes of the Wannseee Conference, the meeting where the Final Solution was planned on January 20, 1942.

In the minutes of this meeting, a copy of which was discovered in 1947, the participants had used euphemisms such as “transportation to the East” when what the men at the Conference had allegedly meant was the extermination of the Jews in gas chambers.

It was of utmost importance to hunt down Eichmann, put him on trial, and establish that he had falsified this key document.

After 11 months in custody in Israel, Eichmann was finally put on trial and he confessed the truth, which was that the Conference was held for the purpose of planning the genocide of the Jews.

Up to that time, there had been no documentation found which showed that Hitler had ordered the killing of all the Jews.

The Eichmann trial finally provided the proof of the systematic plan to exterminate the Jews; that is why Eichmann is considered by many people to be the second most important Nazi, next to Adolf Hitler.

Ward Churchill denies that the Nazis had an official policy to kill all the Jews.

To Bill O’Reilly, this is like saying that 2 plus 2 does not equal 4. German law states that it is “manifestly obvious” that the Nazis had a systematic plan to genocide the Jews; this is a fact that does not have to be proved, thanks to the Eichmann trial.

Churchill assumed that everyone is familiar with Holocaust denial and that everyone knows that Eichmann was a low-level technocrat who never personally killed anyone and never ordered the death of anyone. This mistake on his part got him into trouble, and when he tried to explain what he meant by “little Eichmanns” his explanation fell upon deaf ears.

O’Reilly and others in the media continued to call for Churchill’s head because he had compared the 9/11 victims to Nazis.

Calling an innocent victim a Nazi is the worst thing that anyone can do. But calling someone a “little Eichmann” is not the same thing. Eichmann implemented the transportation of the Jews to the death camps, but he also arranged the transportation of German Jews to Palestine before the war.

Churchill wrote in his essay that all Americans are to blame for not stopping the policies of their government which caused the “terrorists” to “push back.”

Vincent Reynouard got into trouble because he wrote that the victims of Oradour-sur-Glane were connected to the French Resistance, and that this was the cause of the destruction of their village.

Most people believe that both the 9/11 attack and the Oradour massacre were atrocities that were perpetrated for no legitimate reason.

The German Waffen-SS Army and the “terrorists” both targeted innocent civilians, simply because both the Nazis and the “terrorists” were “evil-doers,” and anyone who says otherwise is guilty of “hate speech” in the opinion of most people.

In France, hate speech is a crime, even though French citizens technically have freedom of speech. Will the controversy about Ward Churchill and his opinions about 9/11 finally end American Freedom of Speech, as we know it? Could Ward Churhill’s essay be called “approval of a war crime” in a court of law, just like the writings of Vincent Reynouard?

Here is another news article with this headline:

CU regents fire Ward Churchill

By Berny Morson, Rocky Mountain News
July 24, 2007

Begin quote from news article:

BOULDER – The first, very long chapter of the Ward Churchill saga ended this afternoon as just about everybody – including Churchill – had predicted.

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13 Comments »

  1. This is what Mitchel Bard writes

    Why did the Nazis admire America? Yale University law professor James Whitman started out asking why Hitler in Mein Kampf, and other Nazis in the 1930s, referred to American legal precedents on numerous occasions. What he discovered in the archives surprised him, and may shock readers of his book.

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — August 28, 2017 @ 6:44 am

  2. Eichmann was fluent in speaking Hebrew, he had also made a clandestine trip in 1937 to Palestine (a British Mandate) to negotiate with Zionist representative for a homeland and deportation of Jews from Germany – which he finally found impractical.

    During his trial in Israel the presiding judge Landau asked Eichmann if he wants to hear the proceedings in Hebrew, he answered: ‘No, although my Hebrew is better than some of yours!!’

    Had it not been for an unguarded conversation between Adolf Eichmann’s son and the Argentinian girl he was dating, the chances are that the shabby “Ricardo Klement” would have lived out his days in obscurity a few miles north of Buenos Aires. Unlike Josef Mengele, the camp doctor at Auschwitz, who was feted in the more glamorous circles of Argentinian society, Klement was a failure in his adopted country. He ran a laundry business for a while but it went bankrupt. He lurched from job to job. And when he was captured by Mossad agents on 11 May 1960, shuffling home from the bus stop, they couldn’t quite believe that this was the high-ranking Nazi officer who was responsible for the deportation of millions of Jews to the death camps.

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — August 26, 2017 @ 2:59 am

    • Herbert Stolpmann wrote: “Eichmann was fluent in speaking Hebrew”

      No, he wasn’t. That’s a myth. And according to Jewish writer Bettina Stangneth, that’s a myth that was fabricated and spread by the ‘evil Nazis’ (How unsurprising from a Jewess ! Always a guilty Nazi somewhere. Only ill-treatment innocent Jews everywhere.) in order to scare ‘all those poor Jews’ with an omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent Eichmann wandering among them, listening to all their words and able to punish them severely anywhere and anytime for any minor word against the Nazis. In “Eichmann Before Jerusalem: The Unexamined Life of a Mass Murderer,” she wrote: “The story [that Eichmann was born in Palestine and spoke Hebrew] is a common thread winding through the public’s perception of Eichmann … in 1944 Eichmann used it offensively in Hungary to underpin his authority. Wisliceny used it to make the Jewish community afraid of his commander, who knew everything, could read everything, and – a masterstroke of caricature – looked so Jewish himself that he could move undetected among the Jews at any time. This terrifying scenario made such a lasting impression that after the war, people were frightened Eichmann might secretly have gone to Palestine, posing as a Jew, and could be hiding there among the survivors.”

      Herbert Stolpmann wrote: “During his trial in Israel the presiding judge Landau asked Eichmann if he wants to hear the proceedings in Hebrew, he answered: ‘No, although my Hebrew is better than some of yours!!’”

      Do you have a source for this one? I failed to find this ‘quote’ on the internet.

      Comment by hermie — August 26, 2017 @ 7:41 am

      • edit: read “only ill-treated” instead of “only ill-treatment”

        Comment by hermie — August 26, 2017 @ 7:46 am

      • There are a number of references to the fact that Eichmann was fluent in Hebrew and Yiddish, he also made the point during the trial that he hired and PAID a Rabbi to teach him: ‘I just could of used him anyway I liked’
        (I thought it had been Dr. B. Murmelstein with whom he had contact, but they spoke both German.

        http://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/30/arts/crime-and-punishment-the-trial-of-eichmann.html -is one reference-

        German, Hebrew, and Yiddish. “This was confirmed by several former Mauthauseners: They would have heard Eichmann speak” fluently “Hebrew and Yiddish. (Lost the website

        You have to find your own references – I still understand Yiddish, able to read it if written in the Latin script – but have difficulty speaking it as this was 80 years ago.

        Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — August 26, 2017 @ 10:46 am

        • Herbert Stolpmann wrote: “There are a number of references to the fact that Eichmann was fluent in Hebrew and Yiddish”

          This is the problem of testimonial ‘evidence.’ Baseless allegations on anything. Just a matter of faith.

          Herbert Stolpmann wrote: “he also made the point during the trial that he hired and PAID a Rabbi to teach him”

          No, he didn’t. He made the point that he considered the idea of doing it but that he didn’t do it.

          [begin quote]Dr. Servatius: I come to exhibit T/37(239), that is document No. 5. This deals with Eichmann’s efforts to learn Hebrew from a rabbi.

          Why was this subsidy for this instruction denied to you?

          Accused: My desire at that time was a thing which was ridiculed on the one hand, and distrusted on the other, because it was something entirely unusual that a member of the SS suddenly decides that he wants to learn Hebrew. I myself would also never have hit upon the idea, had I not continually seen in the newspaper files copies of the Haint newspaper which at that time was published in Riga.

          And so I concluded one day that it was not at all that difficult to read this newspaper. And thus it came about that I bought an instruction book for self-study by Samuel Kaleko. And when that proved insufficient I made a request to learn Hebrew from a rabbi. Permission for this was certainly refused at first because of the concern of my superiors. It would certainly have been simpler, had I not written in this request that the cost of the instruction was 3 Marks an hour.

          On the contrary, it would have been best had I proposed that a rabbi be arrested so that he could give me instruction from the prison. But I had not thought of this; at that time I enquired what the general hourly payment was for such lessons, and found out that it was 3 Marks, and on this basis I made my request to my superiors.

          Dr. Servatius: Was concern not also expressed that you might be influenced by the rabbi?

          Accused: Yes, that is what I meant, when I said that there was concern that in this matter I might have too much to do with a Jewish rabbi, since I can imagine that because of the studies, because of being together as a consequence of studying, there also could have been conversations which could have gone beyond merely learning the Hebrew language. [end quote]

          Herbert Stolpmann reported the ‘quote’ : ” ‘I just could of used him anyway I liked’ ”

          Don’t put quotation marks when you fabricate a false ‘quote.’ Very dishonest and misleading. And you could at least use correct English if your false quotations was to be credible. Write ‘I just could have used him [in] any way I liked,” not ‘I could of used him anyway I liked.” The fabrication is too obvious that way.

          Herbert Stolpmann wrote: “(I thought it had been Dr. B. Murmelstein with whom he had contact, but they spoke both German.”

          Murmelstein said that Eichmann “had no knowledge of Hebrew.”

          [begin quote]Murmelstein goes on to discount a book by Israel Harel, who arrested Eichmann, in which it was reported that he (Murmelstein) taught Eichmann Hebrew. Murmelstein says that Eichmann had no knowledge of Hebrew and only a superficial knowledge of emigration, all of which he learned from Murmelstein. [end quote]

          https://www.ushmm.org/online/film/display/detail.php?file_num=4742

          Herbert Stolpmann wrote: ““This was confirmed by several former Mauthauseners: They would have heard Eichmann speak” fluently “Hebrew and Yiddish.”

          And nothing about human-skin lampshades and human-fat soap from them?!?

          Herert Stolpmann wrote: “You have to find your own references ”

          I did it and I found nothing but ludicrous hearsay BS.

          Comment by hermie — August 26, 2017 @ 5:55 pm

          • So, Hitler would send Eichmann in 1937 to Palestine to negotiate with Zionist who according to you did not understand a word of Hebrew. Pretty stupid!

            Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — August 26, 2017 @ 7:34 pm

            • Are you claiming that there were no German-speaking Jews in Palestine in 1937, Herbert?!? Pretty counterfactual!

              Eichmann headed the Central Office for Jewish Emigration (Zentralstelle für jüdische Auswanderung) in Vienna, which was founded the following year (Autumn of 1938). No surprise he made contact with the authorities of any land willing to accommodate a significant number of Jews. That was his job. And knowledge of the Hebrew language was, of course, not necessary for that.

              Comment by hermie — August 26, 2017 @ 9:38 pm

              • The question is: Did Adolf Eichmann spesk Hebrew?

                He[Eichmann] studied all aspects of Jewish culture, attended Jewish meetings and often visited Jewish sections of cities while taking volumes of notes. He became familiar with the issue of Zionism, studied Hebrew and could even speak a bit of Yiddish. He gradually became the acknowledged ‘Jewish specialist,’ realizing this could have positive implications for his career in the SS.
                Reference:http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/biographies/eichmann-biography.htm

                Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — August 26, 2017 @ 11:06 pm

                • As surprising as it may sound to you and all the other bigots of the Holocult, repeating is NOT proving, Herb.

                  Therefore, document your allegations with solid evidence. Or stop wasting your time…and mine.

                  Comment by hermie — August 27, 2017 @ 6:05 am

  3. Good to note that Moshe Landau, the presiding judge at the Eichmann mock trial, is also the father of the “Landau model” (or “Landau system”), which was a legalization of torture (or “moderate physical pressure” as Landau put it at that time (1987)) as an ‘interrogation’ tool in Israel. Before Landau legalized torture for ‘interrogation’ purposes, the Israeli authorities just used to deny that coercitive methods were commonplace in Israeli interrogations. But 2 scandals finally made further denials impossible. In the 1st scandal, it was shown that Shin Bet (General Security Service (GSS)) officials had fabricated evidence to cover up an ‘interrogation’ in which agents had beaten to death 2 Palestinians. In the 2nd scandal, it was shown that Lieutenant Izzat Nafsu (a Muslim of a Turkic minority in Israel) had been convicted of espionage on the basis of a false confession extracted under duress by GSS agents. After these 2 affairs, Moshe Landau ruled out that “moderate physical pressure” was in fact necessary as an ‘interrogation’ tool and that coercitive methods of ‘interrogation’ generate valid confessions. No doubt his own experience from the Eichmann mock trial helped him to reach that conclusion. The good old days of coercion and easy testimonial ‘evidence’…

    Comment by hermie — August 25, 2017 @ 7:38 am

  4. Furtherglory wrote: “So if Eichmann was such small potatoes, how did he rate a trial in Israel? […] There were hundreds of bureaucrats and technicians who were at the same level in the Nazi hierarchy as Eichmann. The reason that Eichmann was put on trial was because he was the man who had typed up the minutes of the Wannseee Conference, the meeting where the Final Solution was planned on January 20, 1942. In the minutes of this meeting, a copy of which was discovered in 1947, the participants had used euphemisms such as “transportation to the East” when what the men at the Conference had allegedly meant was the extermination of the Jews in gas chambers. It was of utmost importance to hunt down Eichmann, put him on trial, and establish that he had falsified this key document. After 11 months in custody in Israel, Eichmann was finally put on trial and he confessed the truth, which was that the Conference was held for the purpose of planning the genocide of the Jews. Up to that time, there had been no documentation found which showed that Hitler had ordered the killing of all the Jews. The Eichmann trial finally provided the proof of the systematic plan to exterminate the Jews; that is why Eichmann is considered by many people to be the second most important Nazi, next to Adolf Hitler.”

    Best summary of the purpose of the Eichmann mock trial in Israel. And I liked your sarcastic tone on this one. 😉


    https://postimg.org/image/n04zn6ot7/

    Comment by hermie — August 24, 2017 @ 6:41 pm

    • ADOLF EICHMANN’S EXECUTIONER
      It was Nagar who sprung the gallows under Adolf Eichmann over 55 years ago.
      In 1957, the Mossad got a tip that Eichmann was alive and living in Buenos Aires under an alias. The hunt was on; it lasted four years.
      For years he (Nagar) had nightmares of those moments during the hanging. His face (Eichmann’s) was white as chalk, his eyes were bulging and his tongue was dangling out.
      He states further:
      The rope rubbed the skin off his neck, and his tongue and chest were covered with blood. I didn’t know that when a person is strangled all the air remains in his stomach. So when I lifted him, all the air that was inside came out and the most horrifying sound was released from his mouth — ‘baaaaa’ –
      [In most cases of strangulations the victim has bowel and bladder movements as ell, sic]

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — August 25, 2017 @ 4:53 am


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