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September 21, 2017

What is the difference between an e-mail server and an e-mail account?

Filed under: Trump, Uncategorized — furtherglory @ 3:17 pm

Today I picked up my reserved copy of Hillary’s book at the book store. I rushed home and immediately started reading it.

Instead of starting on page 1, I went to the index and found the chapter entitled “Those Damn Emails”. [Those damned E-mails]

But first I looked up the definition of an e-mail server and found this:

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An e-mail server is a computer running software that manages the storage and routing of e-mail.

When you send e-mail from your PC or from Yahoo, it is collected by a mail server or router for distribution across the network.

E-mail is exchanged between mail servers and routers using a protocol called ESMTP (Extended Simple Mail Transfer Protocol).

Once the e-mail arrives at the e-mail server you
get your e-mail from, it is indexed into your address’ storage and waits for you to retrieve it. The e-mail server allows you (actually, your e-mail account) to receive e-mail even if your computer is not on the network.

Then, you retrieve your e-mail from the server. If you are using Yahoo! Mail, the mail sits on the e-mail server and is displayed to you using the Web-based mail reader. If you use another e-mail program, it could be retrieved from the server via the POP3 protocol or the IMAP protocol and transferred to your e-mail reader. Microsoft Exchange e-mail servers have their own protocols.

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The following quote is from Hillary’s book – the chapter entitled “Those Damn Emails”

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Imagine you are a kid sitting in history class thirty years from now learning about the 2016 presidential election, which brought to power the least experienced, least knowledgeable, least competent President our country has ever had. Something must have gone horribly wrong you think. Then you hear that one issue dominated press coverage and public debate in that race more than any other. “Climate change?” you ask. Health care? “No, your teacher responds, “Emails.”

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What Hillary fails to explain in her book is that when you have a private e-mail server, you can see where your e-mail is really coming from and not from where it is pretending to come from.

Many years ago, when I was a recruiter, specializing in recruiting engineers for my client companies, I would get e-mail from someone claiming to be Joe Blow, but I could see that the e-mail was really coming from another recruiter who was trying to steal my client companies away from me. That’s the reason for having a private e-mail server — you know where your e-mail is really coming from.

Here is the definition of an e-mail server:

[An e-mail server is] A computer (and/or the software running on that computer) that:

(1) Stores email addressed to the users of that system as they arrive until such time as the user retrieves/deletes it

(2) Processes outbound messages and sends them out for delivery

You can read another review of Hillary’s book at

The following quote is from the review of Hillary’s book:

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In the end, Clinton simply does not have the right tools to tell her own story. Many critics are upset that she spends her book blaming her defeat on Bernie Sanders and James Comey and Russia and everyone but herself. What did you expect? Her book could never have been anything else. This is crystallized in one minor but telling detail: Occasionally, she refers to a “now” in which the reader reads, a “now” that’s explicitly identified as late 2017. What Happened is not meant to last; it’s not meant to be pored over for years to come. It exists in the provisional present of politics. It’s a campaign book, written after the fact.

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Update 6 pm today

After reading more of Hillary’s book, I now understand her. Hillary is a rich person who lives in a rich community and hob nobs with famous rich people. She is completely out of touch with the common people.






  1. Comment by eah — September 23, 2017 @ 12:54 am

  2. Email is one of the more complicated things to discuss. But with the standard SMTP that people use, one could send a message purporting anything within it. It could of course say it is from “Joe Blow” or say ANYTHING within it. And so you can never authentic any piece whatsoever in the SMTP message itself. The only thing that you can trust is the IP address from whence it came – because SMTP messages are sent within TCP packets – which are synced between sender and receiver.

    Mail servers typically put this logging information within the SMTP message itself that it sends to the client. And so the client can view that logging information within the email it receives. Unless one is paranoid and thinks that a particular server is forwarding incorrect logging information to you, you’d get that logging information which you would have hands-on assurance of by running your own server. But the only thing you can trust about anything is the actual TCP connection and information about the particular TCP session. So you don’t really get any ability to “see where your e-mail is really coming from” as you say. The sender could very well use a proxy or something when sending the email. Any email could be sent to anyone saying anything about the source. The ONLY trustable information at the receiving server is the particular TCP session between it and the machine directly sending the email – which can be untraceable to the ultimate source.

    Do you get that, FG?

    Comment by blake121666 — September 22, 2017 @ 5:14 pm

    • IOW, I could send you an email with every single thing within it to be false. And I send that email THROUGH a proxy server on the internet that does not log the sender IP info. Then your email server would only have valid info about the TCP session it had with the proxy server and nothing else.

      If you like, I will do just that to prove this to you? Do you want me to send you a completely bogus email which you couldn’t trace back to me, FG?

      Comment by blake121666 — September 22, 2017 @ 5:20 pm

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