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October 11, 2017

Auschwitz prisoners had to burn the bodies of fellow Jews

Filed under: Auschwitz, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 3:55 pm

You can read, in a recent news article, about how Jewish prisoners had to put the bodies of their fellow Jews into a furnace at Auschwitz: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/11/buried-letter-recounts-auschwitz-prisoners-job-burning-bodies-fellow-jews-in-death-camp.html

Marcel Nadjari, a Jewish prisoner in Auschwitz, wrote about his experience of having to take bodies from gas chambers to the camp’s crematorium (REUTERS)

I took a photo of this same oven when I visited the site of the Auschwitz main camp in 1998; my photo is shown below.

My 1998 photo of same ovens at Auschwitz

Note that the recent photo of these ovens shows that the wall behind the ovens has changed. It is now a brick wall.

The crematorium in the main Auschwitz camp, later designated as Krema I, was first put into operation in September 1940; prior to that time, bodies were taken to Gleiwitz to be burned in the city crematorium.

Initially, this crematorium contained two ovens which each had two openings, called muffles or retorts. Bodies were shoved inside by means of a device shown in the photo above. The ovens were deep enough to hold two bodies, placed end to end. A third oven was installed at the end of 1941. Krema I was in operation until July 1943.

The two photos above show one of the two ovens which were reconstructed by the Soviet Union in 1947 when the main camp was turned into the Auschwitz Museum. The small doors at the bottom were for removing ashes.

The blueprints for the crematorium at Auschwitz I show that there were three ovens when the crematorium was first put into operation. One of the ovens was later removed.

7 Comments »

  1. A quick scanning through the Topf testimonies isn’t giving me the info that I thought was in there. One of them somewhere discussed what was there when.

    But this page:

    http://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

    claims that there were 2 double-ovens in 1941 when a third one was added in the Spring of 1942.

    I’m almost certain there was only one originally. I could be wrong though.

    There were of course none after early ’44 when the building was converted into an air raid shelter.

    Comment by blake121666 — October 12, 2017 @ 5:48 pm

  2. “The ovens were deep enough to hold two bodies, placed end to end.”

    No way.

    “The blueprints for the crematorium at Auschwitz I show that there were three ovens when the crematorium was first put into operation. One of the ovens was later removed.”

    The blueprints show ONE double-muffin oven. 2 more were added a year later. ALL of the ovens were removed when the building was turned into an air raid shelter. The Soviets “reconstructed” the ovens 2 years after the war ended – using the metal pieces of ovens that were stored elsewhere in Auschwitz after having been dismantled.

    Comment by blake121666 — October 12, 2017 @ 5:12 pm

  3. “Note that the recent photo of these ovens shows that the wall behind the ovens has changed. It is now a brick wall.”

    That is not a brick wall; it is the second double-oven (the one that is in your picture).

    “Initially, this crematorium contained two ovens which each had two openings, called muffles or retorts. Bodies were shoved inside by means of a device shown in the photo above. The ovens were deep enough to hold two bodies, placed end to end. A third oven was installed at the end of 1941. Krema I was in operation until July 1943.”

    Initially there was a 2-muffle oven. And later 2 more 2-muffle ovens were added – resulting in 6 ovens altogether (each muffle is in fact an entirely separate and independent “oven”.)

    The 2 “reconstructed” ovens that are there now are very significantly different than the ovens that were there during the war. The whole “reconstructed” building is significantly different as well.

    Comment by blake121666 — October 12, 2017 @ 5:02 pm

  4. [begin quote]”Underneath a garden, there are two endless basement rooms: one is meant for undressing, the other is a death chamber,” he wrote. “People enter naked and when it is filled with about 3,000 people, it is closed and they are gassed.”[end quote]

    These ‘Holocaust’ letters found in 1980 are a good example of a clumsy fabrication of fake evidence. Nice try. But the alleged gas chambers of Krema II and Krema III were not “underneath a garden.” The guy who fabricated this letter, visibly knew the blueprints of krema II and Krema III. But he didn’t know that the Germans finally had to opt for semi-underground morgues, contrary to what they had initially planned and drawn in their blueprints.

    [begin quote]Russian-born historian Pavel Polian said Nadjari’s letter and the eight other documents found in the thermos “are the most central documents of the Holocaust.”[end quote]

    Really?!? Si I can’t wait to see the less central documents of the Holocaust… 😉

    Comment by hermie — October 11, 2017 @ 8:44 pm

    • edit: read “So I can’t wait” instead of “Si I can’t wait.”

      Comment by hermie — October 11, 2017 @ 8:46 pm

  5. FG

    Sorry to have to correct you you can only cremate one body in one oven at a time…..

    Crematory Ovens of AUSCHWITZ and Birkenau in book Dissecting the HOLOCAUST
    Carlo Mottogno

    The muffle was a horizontal combustion chamber lined with refractory material. The German “Norms for the construction and operation of furnaces for the cremation of human corpse” enacted in 1937 prescribed the following minimal measures for such a muffle: width: 900 millimeter; height: 900 millimeter; length: 2500 millimeter. Approx 8 ft long

    The operating instructions also indicate that the ovens were designed for the cremation of one body at a time per muffle, since they specify that the bodies had to be introduced successively. On July 3, 1940, in order to “put the crematorium into operation”, the firm Topf also offered “500 ash urns” and “500 fireclay markers” to the SS-Neubauleitung of Auschwitz.112 The latter were numbered plates of fireclay, which were placed on the coffin or directly on the corpse to identify the ashes. In 1946, some of these plates were found near the crematorium II. They were handed over to investigating judge Jan Sehn,113 who, as far as I know, never mentioned them in his findings about his investigations on Auschwitz. This confirms that not even in Birkenau corpses were cremated anonymously in masses, but one at a time

    The 60 min. duration of cremating a single body in the ovens at Birkenau was confirmed by the Topf engineers Kurt Prüfer and Karl Schultze during their interrogation by the Soviet counterespionage service Smersh. During the interrogation on March 4, 1946, K. Schultz stated:148 “Five ovens were in two crematoria, and three corpses were introduced in each oven [one in each muffle], i.e., there were three openings (muffles) in each oven. In one crematorium with five ovens [and fifteen muffles], one could incinerate fifteen corpses in one hour.” During the interrogation on March 5, 1946, K. Prüfer explained why the cremation lasted so long in the Birkenau crematoria:149 “In civil crematoria, pre-heated air is blown in with the help of special bellows, due to which the corpse burns faster and without smoke. The construction of the crematoria for the concentration camps is different; it was not possible to pre-heat the air, as a result of which the corpse burned slower and with developing smoke. In order to reduce the smoke and the smell of a burning corpse, a fan is used. Question: How many corpses would be cremated per hour in a crematorium in Auschwitz? Answer: In a crematorium that had five ovens and fifteen muffles, one cremated fifteen corpses in an hour.” It is therefore established that the average duration of a cremation in Auschwitz was about one hour.

    side note…
    Crematoria experts aquited

    The 1972 Vienna Auschwitz Trial. Between January 18 and March 10, 1972, two architects responsible for the design and construction of the crematoria in Auschwitz-Birkenau, Walter Dejaco and Fritz Ertl, were put on trial in Vienna, Austria.” During the trial, an expert report on the possible interpretation of the blue- prints of the alleged gas chambers of the Auschwitz and Birkenau crematoria was presented to the court. The report concluded that the rooms in question could not have been gas chambers, nor could they have been converted into gas chambers.
    Thanks to this first methodologically sound expert report on Auschwitz, the defendants were acquitted

    Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 11, 2017 @ 4:20 pm

    • Sixty minutes to torch one stiff. The Jews said,nazis had it down to 1,000 an hour they could do. I read something like that on here. Even today,a quick cremation is considered to be an hour. We are more advanced in the process than they were back in the 40’s. I also read that the bricks have to be replace quite often. While I’m talking about bricks,how come they never put the people on trial that supplied the bricks,for the Easy Bake ovens? Seems like they’d put someone on trial,that even farted around a Jew . So why didn’t they ever charge the brick makers?

      Comment by Tim — October 12, 2017 @ 1:17 am


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