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February 12, 2018

Don’t ever say “Polish death camps”

Filed under: Auschwitz, Germany, Holocaust — furtherglory @ 4:36 pm

You can read a news article about the phrase “Polish death camps” at https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/28/israel-demands-changes-polish-death-camp-bill/1073258001/

So what are the proper terms to describe the various camps that were set up by the Nazis?

Both Buchenwald and Auschwitz were called concentration camps (Konzentrationslager) by the Nazis and both were called extermination camps (Vernichtungslager) by the Allies during the war and in the immediate aftermath.

Jews were sent to both Buchenwald and Auschwitz, but both camps had non-Jewish prisoners as well. Both camps had SS soldiers as guards and administrators, and both were under the jurisdiction of the Inspectorate in Oranienburg.

Both Buchenwald and Auschwitz were within the 1939 borders of Germany, which was then known as Grossdeutschland. Auschwitz is now in Poland, but it was in Grossdeutschland when the camp was opened in June 1940.

Neither Buchenwald, nor Auschwitz, was “liberated.” The prisoners at Buchenwald were set free at 3:15 p.m. on April 11, 1945 after the Communist prisoners took control of the camp and the SS guards escaped into the woods. The first American soldiers in General Patton’s Third Army arrived at Buchenwald around two hours later that same day and freed the prisoners.

The SS guards abandoned Auschwitz on January 18, 1945 and marched the prisoners to the German border where they were put on trains and taken to other camps. Those who chose not to join the march stayed at Auschwitz where they were free to leave, but most of the prisoners decided to wait until the Soviet Army found the camp on January 27, 1945 and set the prisoners free.

Auschwitz consisted of three separate camps, called Auschwitz, Birkenau and Monowitz, and 40 sub-camps. In June 2007, the United Nations officially changed the collective name of the three Auschwitz camps to Auschwitz-Birkenau, German Nazi Concentration and Extermination Camp (1940-1945) because the Poles were tired of hearing Auschwitz being described as a “Polish death camp.”

Buchenwald had a main camp and around 100 sub-camps.

Both Buchenwald and Auschwitz had factories where the prisoners worked and these factories were considered to be essential to the German war effort. The factories at both Buchenwald and Auschwitz were bombed by the Allies because of this.

Both Buchenwald and Auschwitz had child survivors. There were 900 children under the age of 18 at Buchenwald and 600 child survivors in the abandoned Auschwitz camp.

According to testimony at the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal, both Buchenwald and Auschwitz had gas chambers.

Both Buchenwald and Auschwitz also had typhus epidemics which accounted for the lives of thousands of the prisoners.

After Auschwitz was opened by the Nazis in 1940, some of the prisoners from Buchenwald were transferred there. When Auschwitz was abandoned in January 1945, some of the prisoners were transported back to Buchenwald.

Both Buchenwald and Auschwitz were in the Soviet zone after World War II ended, and Museums were set up at both camps by the Soviets.

So what’s the difference between Buchenwald and Auschwitz now?

The difference is that today the Auschwitz II camp, aka Birkenau, has been designated a “death camp” by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, while Buchenwald is now officially called a concentration camp by the Museum.

When Jewish prisoners arrived at Birkenau, beginning in February 1942, they allegedly went through a selection process in which those who were able to work were saved while those who were not selected to work  allegedly were sent into a gas chamber.

Today, no one claims that Buchenwald had a gas chamber, nor that there was even a selection process for Jewish prisoners at Buchenwald.

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum now says that only six of the Nazi camps were “death camps”. The alleged death camps were Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, and Chelmno, all of which are in what is now the country of Poland. Nevertheless, a few people still call all of the Nazi camps “death camps” where Jews were allegedly killed.

The Communist survivors of Buchenwald estimated that 56,000 prisoners died at Buchenwald. The latest estimate of the deaths at Auschwitz-Birkenau is 1.1 million, and of those prisoners who were killed, 90% were Jews.

No Jews were sent to any Nazi camp, solely because they were Jewish, until November 10, 1938 when 10,000 Jewish men were sent to Buchenwald following the pogrom in Germany, known as Kristallnacht.

An equal number of Jewish men were sent on November 10, 1938 to Dachau and Sachsenhausen, the other two main concentration camps in Germany. However, they were released within a few weeks if they promised to leave Germany forever.

It was not until February 1942 that all the free Jews in Germany and Poland were rounded up and sent to concentration camps in what is now Poland. Before that, persons who were considered to be the enemies of the German Reich were sent to concentration camps, regardless of their ethnicity, race or religion, including a few Jews.

In January 1941, Buchenwald was classified as a Class II camp where prisoners were less likely to be released. Prisoners at Dachau and Sachsenhausen, which were Class I camps were more likely to be released.

The main Auschwitz camp was a Class I camp, mainly for political prisoners, and 1,500 non-Jewish prisoners were later released, according to information at the Auschwitz Museum.

7 Comments »

  1. Can we say “Soviet” death camps. Well everyone is so hell bent on turning the Krauts into demons,that they seem to forget Papa Joe was no angel. Even if 6 mill Hebs ended up dead,it ain’t shit compared to the amount of people Papa Joe murdered. Let’s put his filthy Red ass on trial. Let’s go after the worthless Ruskies that went apeshit murdering and raping innocent people in Berlin .

    Comment by Tim — February 13, 2018 @ 7:11 pm

  2. Quote from article:
    “It was not until February 1942 that all the free Jews in Germany and Poland were rounded up and sent to concentration camps in what is now Poland. Before that, persons who were considered to be the enemies of the German Reich were sent to concentration camps, regardless of their ethnicity, race or religion, including a few Jews”.

    Yet;
    In an article of Dec 1961, Vol. 120, No. 6. The National Geographic carried a story on WW2 Berlin. It stated that about 5,000 Jews were living openly in Hitlers Berlin when it was “liberated” by the Russians….

    There were also Jewish schools in Paris and training camps in Germany-operating up to March 1942-for prospective Jewish emigrants to Palestine….

    In the book ‘Refuge In Hell’ by Jewish author Daniel B Silver we learn that a Jewish hospital also functioned in Berlin throughout the war unmolested by those evil Nazis, many of the 800 Jews were found hiding in the hospital cellar …

    Interestingly, several thousand Jews of Berlin attended their synagogue throughout the war: Robert Faurisson, ‘The Victories of Revisionism’..

    A Council Of Elders Of Jews, operated in Hitlers birth place, Austria, (Vienna) during WW2 with responsibility for children’s schools, day care, community kitchens, bath house, home for the elderly, clothes and furniture depot, a welfare relief division, library and cemetery administration: ‘Annual report of the Director of the council of Elders of the Jews in Vienna’ 22 Ja, 1945, Raul Hilberg, ‘Documents of destruction: Germany and Jewry 1933-1945’ 1971 pp 125-130.

    Not All Jews Were Interned Volume III of the Red Cross Report, Chapter 3 (I. Jewish Civilian Population) deals with the “aid given to the Jewish section of the free population,” and this chapter makes it quite plain that by no means all of the European Jews were placed in internment camps, but remained, subject to certain restrictions, as part of the free civilian population. This conflicts directly with the “thoroughness” of the supposed “extermination programme”, and with the claim in the forged Höss memoirs that Eichmann was obsessed with seizing “every single Jew he could lay his hands on.”

    It appears that ‘NOT ALL Free JEWS’ were rounded up after all.

    Comment by herebysayi — February 13, 2018 @ 4:33 am

    • P.S. Emigration not extermination.
      Most people have heard of the Haavara Agreement 1933-1941, which was the agreement between the NS German state and the World Zionist organization, to facilitate the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. Few however have heard of the Rublee-Wohlthat Agreement 1939. This was Hitlers last attempt to arrange a general emigration plan to rid Germany of the 250,000 Jews still remaining. To this end and in agreement with the Evian Conference 1938, Rublee, an American lawyer and director of the International committee created to facilitate and fund Jewish emigration, negotiated with Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank and Helmut Wohlthat, Hermann Gorings secretary of state. Hjalmar Schacht was sent to England in 1939 to arrange a loan which would enable this general emigration to any country willing to accept them. The bank of England governor, Montagu Norman was agreeable as were many British MPs, however this plan was torpedoed by Zionist leader Chiam Weitzmann who was a ‘Palestine or nothing Zionist’ All this while Jews were claiming that the Nazis were intent on killing every single Jew they could get their hands on. BTW, as part of the agreement many Jews were to be allowed to remain in Germany, this situation existed even after the agreement was ended:

      Clause 13 of the agreement reads: THIRTEEN. A definite method has not as yet been found for caring for old persons and persons unfit for emigration, who are not included in this program and who will be allowed to finish their days in Germany. It is the intention on Germany’s part to assure that these persons and persons awaiting emigration may live tranquilly, unless some extraordinary circumstance should occur. There is no intention to segregate the Jews. They may circulate freely. Persons fit to work shall be given the opportunity of employment so as to earn their living; Jews employed in the same establishments as Aryans will, however, be separated from Aryan workers. Generally, in order to provide for adequate administration of the program, centralization of control over Jewish affairs is contemplated.

      https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/deutsch/archiv/auswanderung/adj3r07.html

      Comment by herebysayi — February 13, 2018 @ 4:57 am

    • @herebysayi:
      “Yet;
      In an article of Dec 1961, Vol. 120, No. 6. The National Geographic carried a story on WW2 Berlin. It stated that about 5,000 Jews were living openly in Hitlers Berlin when it was “liberated” by the Russians….”

      Yadda, yadda, yadda, BS.

      A lot of German Jews survived because of certain exemptions granted to them, say if they were quarter or half Jews or married to German spouses. Veterans of the First World War also received exemptions for a time.

      Whadda yutz….

      Comment by brycesdaddy1105 — February 13, 2018 @ 6:07 pm

  3. Many people believed that it was impossible for Germans to resist the Nazi dictatorship, war propaganda and the deportation of Jewish people. However, a street protest in 1943 showed that resistance was possible and that it could be successful.

    Hundreds of unarmed German women stood day and night for a week doing something that was unheard of in Nazi Germany. They stood close to Gestapo agents armed with machine guns and demanded the release of their Jewish husbands that were locked up in a Jewish community center close to Alexanderplatz in Berlin.

    The strength, courage and passion from these women prevailed over the Nazi regime. As thousands of other Berlin Jews were sent to Auschwitz, these Jews that were married to Aryan German women were set free. They would be the last Jews living in Berlin and they lived to tell this

    This protest on Rosenstrasse was the only public German protest against the deportation of Jews and it shows the contradicting notion that Germans had to chose between resisting the Nazi Regime and martyrdom. Those German women stood by their men and refused to abandon them in the face on imminent death.

    Most people don’t know that, but Jews whose German spouses did or had divorced them were immediately sent to death camps. Jews whose wives stood by them survived. By the end of the Second World War, 98% of German Jews who survived the Holocaust were in these intermarriages.

    Just Read: ‘The Day the Führer blinked’ for the full events

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — February 13, 2018 @ 1:55 am

    • PS:
      It is my understanding that four Jews that had already been transported to Auschwitz prior to this round-up, were returned to their spouses.

      Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — February 13, 2018 @ 3:36 am


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