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October 16, 2012

Why tour guides at Dachau tell visitors that the gas chambers were used

Filed under: Dachau, Germany, Holocaust — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 9:03 am

I learned from a comment made on my blog yesterday that a tour guide at Dachau is telling gullible tourists that the gas chambers were used to kill prisoners.  This quote is from the comment:

However when I asked why historians now think that a gas chamber at Dachau was used, he claims that witness statements claim it was which were never given proper weight in the past (apparently Gordon Hogan, historian extrodinairre, is the first person in history to realise this), and that’s good enough for him. He also claims that traces of Zyklon B have been tested for and found(!!). This all sounded a little “make it up as you go along” so I researched some more on the internet, and realise there is no evidence that any people were gassed at Dachau.

All of the claims in the above comment are true. There is NO EVIDENCE that any people were gassed at Dachau.  However, it is also true that “witness statements claim that it was.”  Four of the Dachau gas chambers were used to disinfect the clothing of the prisoners with Zyklon-B gas, so if these four chambers were tested for Zyklon-B, there would have been traces of it found.

You can see photos of the Dachau gas chamber and read a description of the shower room, that was allegedly used as a gas chamber here.  You can see photos of openings in the interior of the shower room here.

What “witness statements” claim that the gas chambers (plural) were used?

After Dachau was liberated on April 29, 1945, the official report of the U.S. Seventh Army was printed as a book entitled Dachau Liberated: The Official Report by The U.S. Seventh Army, Released Within Days of the Camp’s Liberation by Elements of the 42nd and 45th Divisions.

The Official Report was based on two days of interviewing 20 political prisoners at Dachau; the prisoners told the Americans that both the shower room and the four disinfection chambers were used as homicidal gas chambers.  Did these POLITICAL PRISONERS have a motive to lie? Did the American liberators have a motive to lie?  Did General Dwight D. Eisenhower have a motive to show the German people as monsters?  Yes, to all three questions!

Dachau was the first Nazi concentration camp to be found by American troops, while prisoners were still incarcerated there.  Prior to this, Americans had come across the abandoned Natzweiler camp in France and the abandoned Ohrdruf sub-camp of Buchenwald. At Dachau, this was the first chance that Americans had to talk with the prisoners of a concentration camp and get their first-hand account of what happened.

Some of the political prisoners in the camp had organized the International Committee of Dachau.  Members of the Committee met the Americans at the Arbeit Macht Frei gate and escorted them to the gas chambers. There are claims that the sight of the gas chambers caused the Americans to violate the Geneva Convention by killing the German soldiers who had surrendered; this is known as the Dachau Massacre.

The International Committee of Dachau is still in existence and it still controls what is told at the Dachau Memorial Site.  That is why tourists today are told that the gas chambers were used, even though there is no evidence that it was even possible that the shower room could have been used to gas the prisoners.

The following quote is from The Official Report by The U.S. Seventh Army:

“When the American troops arrived on 29 April 1945, there were approximately 32,500 estimated internees of all nationalities, the Poles predominating. During this period, the camp was notorious for its cruelty, but within the last six or eight months, some ‘token’ improvement was noted in the treatment of the internees. However, the new crematorium was completed in May 1944, and the gas chambers, a total of five, were used for the executions and the disposals of the bodies.”

The Baracke X building and the five gas chambers were actually completed in May 1943.  At that time, most of the Jews were in camps in Poland, so who was being gassed at Dachau?

The Report of the Atrocities Committed at Dachau Concentration Camp, signed by Col. David Chavez, Jr., JAGD, 7 May 1945 is quoted below:

“The new building had a gas chamber for executions… the gas chamber was labeled “shower room” over the entrance and was a large room with airtight doors and double glassed lights, sealed and gas proof. The ceiling was studded with dummy shower heads. A small observation peephole, double glassed and hermetically sealed was used to observe the conditions of the victims. There were grates in the floor. Hydrogen cyanide was mixed in the room below, and rose into the gas chamber and out the top vents.”

Based on the WITNESS STATEMENTS, the tour guides should tell tourists that hydrogen cyanide was put into the gas chamber through the GRATES IN THE FLOOR. Tourists are told that the grates in the floor, which are now closed up, are fake grates, but I don’t think that the tour guides tell people that the gas came up into the shower room through these grates.

Note that the Official Army Report says nothing about the two little windows on the east wall of the gas chamber.  Those windows weren’t there when the camp was liberated.  Or perhaps, they were there and no one noticed them.  I have a page on my website in which I have collected eye witness statements and none of these statements mention the little windows.  In spite of this, tour guides at Dachau tell visitors that gas pellets were thrown into the shower room through these openings.

I don’t know if all of the Dachau tour guides tell visitors that the gas chamber was used, but I have read many blog posts written by students who took a tour of Dachau.

This quote is from this blog:

Dachau was never used as a mass-extermination facility, meaning a large number of prisoners did not endure a gas chamber death.  However, there is a gas chamber at Dachau and it was used to kill only “small numbers” of prisoners.  The tour guide explained that because of Dachau’s location in Germany, it was easier to ship prisoners to concentration camps outside of the country in order to easily “dispose” of them.

The German people have no control over their history.  If someone on the staff of the Dachau Memorial Site would have the nerve to speak up, and say that the shower room was not used as a gas chamber, that person would be reported to the Thought Police and would wind up serving 5 years in a German prison.    If you live in Germany or Austria, do not mention anything that you have read here, or you could be put on trial for Holocaust denial.

Americans who still have free speech should speak up when they take a tour of Dachau and confront the tour guides with their lies.

March 17, 2010

Gordon Hogan, Dachau tour guide

Today, I read an article posted on this website with the headline “Genocide, the stench of death and eating lunch in a gas chamber.”

The article is about an Irishman from Tipperary, named Gordon Hogan, who conducts tours for visitors to the Dachau Memorial Site. According to the article, Gordon “is one of the leading tour guides at the Nazi death camp of Dachau.”

The following quote is from the article:

“Gordon, 29, who lives in Munich, knows everything there is to know about the dark history of the horrific Dachau concentration camp.

“So who better to show the camp to the huge number of visitors who come to see it annually than the Templemore artist?”

Who better?  I think maybe someone who knows about the real history of the Dachau concentration camp would be better. The visitors probably already know the “dark history of the horrific Dachau concentration camp.”  What the visitors need is an unbiased tour guide with a Neutral Point of View (NPV) and a knowledge of history.

A visitor to Dachau who took Gordon Hogan’s tour on June 30, 2008 wrote this on his blog:

“… we got to see the actual crematorium and gas room that prisoners would be taken to to kill and later incinerate.  It was a somber place to be but I am very glad to be given the opportunity to witness this place first hand.  The gas room was a serious site.  To stand in a room where at least, I think, about a 1,000 prisoners were gased (sic) to death was a sad place to see.”

Some time ago, I read another visitor’s blog about her trip to Dachau. She didn’t identify her tour guide by name, but she did identify him by his accent; how many tour guides with an “Irish accent” could there be at Dachau? I’m guessing that there is only one: Gordon Hogan.

Regarding the Dachau gas chamber, the blogger wrote this:

The guide spoke of how they cleverly pumped warm air into the room, waited for the poisonous capsule to change to cyanide and then 20 minute for the people to die. Then they moved the bodies into the next room and removed the gold fillings. Finally onto the ovens.

Dachau gas chamber has heating vent near the floor, May 2001

The photo above shows the west wall of the Dachau gas chamber; notice the square vent in the corner near the floor.  This appears to be a heating vent to warm what looks like a shower room.  A portable sign in the corner informed visitors in 2001 that this room was never used as a gas chamber or never put into operation as a gas chamber; the sign was removed in 2003.

According to tour guide Gordon Hogan, poisonous capsules were poured into the Dachau gas chamber through two vents on the east wall of the room, as shown in the photo below.

Two vents on the east wall of the Dachau gas chamber

Close-up of  vent through which cyanide pellets were poured into the Dachau gas chamber

The vents shown in the photos above are on the opposite side of the room from the heater. Wouldn’t it have been more efficient to put the heater closer to where the pellets were poured in so that they would heat up faster?

There are two serious problems with Gordon Hogan’s version of how poisonous capsules were put into the Dachau gas chamber disguised as a shower room.  The first problem is that the American prosecutors at Nuremberg showed a film of the gas chamber in which it was explained that the gas came through the shower heads and the gas flow was regulated by control wheels behind the west wall of the gas chamber, as shown in the photo below. According to the evidence presented at Nuremberg, the poisonous gas was not in the form of capsules.

Still photo from film shown as evidence at Nuremberg

Notice the peep hole in the photo above.  The person who was operating the control wheels could look inside the gas chamber to see when all the prisoners were dead.  There was no peep hole on the opposite wall where Gordon tells visitors that poisonous capsules were poured onto the floor. Shouldn’t the peep hole be on the side where the gas is being poured in?

In the film that was shown at Nuremberg, the narrator said that poison gas was vented through empty light fixture boxes and that the input of the gas was regulated by push buttons which you can see in the black and white photo above.

Empty light fixture box described as a “gas vent” in Nuremberg film

The photo above shows a light fixture box in the northeast corner of the Dachau gas chamber. Note the wiring for the light fixture that was removed. This box was described as a “gas vent” in the film, made on May 3, 1945, which was shown at the Nuremberg IMT on November 29, 1945.

How come the American liberators didn’t notice the openings on the east wall where Gordon Hogan tells visitors that poisonous capsules were poured into the room?  Why weren’t these openings mentioned at the Nuremberg IMT? Could it be that these openings weren’t there until much later?

The film that was shown at Nuremberg, which includes the gas chamber footage, can be seen on YouTube.

The second problem with Gordon’s version of the gassing procedure is that Dachau had four machines that were supplied by the Degesh company, which manufactured the poisonous pellets, but there was no Degesh machine in the gas chamber disguised as a shower room.  The Degesh machines were installed in the four disinfection chambers where the clothing was deloused with Zyklon-B, the same gas that was used for homicidal gassing. These machines automatically opened a can of Zyklon-B pellets, poured them into a wire basket and then blew warm air over the pellets.  After the clothing had been deloused, the pellets were retrieved from the basket, put back into the can and returned to the Degesh company to have more poison put into the pellets.  In Gordon’s version of the story, the pellets would have gone down the six floor drains in the gas chamber and poisoned the whole camp. There were no floor drains in the disinfection chambers for this very reason.

Machine used for putting gas pellets into Dachau disinfection chambers

To me, the big question is why didn’t the Germans use one of these Degesh machines in the homicidal gas chamber where people were gassed at Dachau?

Here is a quote from “The Official Report by the U.S. Seventh Army, released only days after the camp was liberated”:

“The internees who were brought to Camp Dachau for the sole purpose of being executed were in most cases Jews and Russians. They were brought to the compound, lined up near the gas chambers, and were screened in a similar manner as internees who came to Dachau for imprisonment. Then they were marched to a room and told to undress. Everyone was given a towel and a piece of soap, as though they were about to take a shower. During this whole screening process, no hint was ever given that they were to be executed, for the routine was similar upon arrival of all internees in the camp.”

The official report seems to be saying that either water or gas could come out of the shower heads since “the routine was similar upon arrival of all internees.”  However, the prisoners would not have been fooled; the photo below shows what a real shower room at Dachau looked like. This shower room is in the building that is now the Dachau Museum.  The shower fixtures have been removed.

Shower room in what is now the Dachau Museum

The gas chamber, that was disguised as a shower room at Dachau, apparently did not have shower fixtures that looked like those in the photo above.   When I visited in 2001, the one remaining shower head was just stuck into the ceiling. Sometime after the film was shown at Nuremberg, it was discovered that the shower heads were not connected to any pipes.  But in the film, there were pipes shown behind the west wall of the gas chamber and those pipes entered the gas chamber disguised as a shower room.

If you look through a window behind the gas chamber, you can see that the pipes shown in the Nuremberg film are still there.  The photo below was taken through the window.

Photo taken through a window shows pipes going into gas chamber

If someone were to cut a hole in the 7.6 ft. dropped ceiling of the Dachau gas chamber, would we be able to see water pipes hanging from the real 10 ft. ceiling above? The two rooms on either side of the gas chamber both have 10 ft. ceilings.

After a group of U.S. Congressmen visited Dachau on May 1, 1945, they wrote a report in which they described the ceiling of the gas chamber as being 10 ft. high. On May 3, 1945, when the film that was shown at Nuremberg was made, the ceiling was 7.6 ft. high.

Curiously, no one was ever put on trial for a war crime involving the gas chamber at Dachau.  Autopsies were conducted on hundreds of bodies at Dachau by Dr. Charles Larson, but no evidence of death by gassing was ever found.

The Dachau Memorial Site leaves it up to the individual tour guides to tell visitors whatever they want to about the gas chamber at Dachau.

Holocaust denial is against the law in Germany.  But what about telling Holocaust lies?  Shouldn’t there be a penalty for that also?