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January 29, 2013

Eisenhower’s death camps — a stain on American history

Filed under: World War II — Tags: , , , — furtherglory @ 10:43 am

The term “death camp” is used by Holocaustians to mean a Nazi concentration camp where prisoners were taken to be deliberately killed in gas chambers or worked to death.  The term Vernichtungslager (extermination camp) was coined by the Allies to refer to the six Nazi “death camps”:  Chelmno, Belzec, Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau.

The POW enclosure at Reemagen

The open air POW enclosure at Remagen

The POW camps set up by General Dwight D. Eisenhower, after World War II ended, are also called death camps, because 1.7 million German POWs allegedly died in these camps. To read more about Eisenhower’s camps, go to this website or this website.

The subject of Eisenhower’s death camps came up in a recent comment on my blog, made by a reader who was actually a prisoner in one of Eisenhower’s camps.  The following quote is from his comment:

… all I can say to you and your readers that I reached that stage of the of starvation as a POW under Eisenhower within 10 days after receiving no food or water, according to his orders to all Allied Forces (Montgomery did not follow these instructions after consultation with Churchill). All I received was one pint of watery soup with dried onions in them. My weight was down to 50 kg(112lbs) and I could no longer walk, thus became a Muselmann, but was slowly nourished back to reasonable health at (German) Army Field Hospital. My average weight at the height of 1,82 m has always been steady at 80 kg (182lbs). You very rarely ever see pictures or comments of what was going on at the end of 1945,that he, Eisenhower, maintained Death Camps, Where allegedly 1.7 Million Germans died of hunger. Yet I doubt this figure

You can read about an American soldier’s experience as a guard in one of Eisenhower’s camps here.

I previously blogged about Eisenhower’s death camps here, but it bears repeating.

The German city of Gotha was the first headquarters of the victorious American Army in Germany, set up by General Dwight D. Eisenhower in April 1945. Gotha was also the site of one of the Prisoner of War camps set up by Eisenhower.

General Eisenhower mentioned Gotha in his book Crusade in Europe, as the nearest city to the “horror camp” at Ohrdruf-Nord, the only concentration camp that he ever visited.  He failed to mention his own notorious POW camp located near Gotha.

On March 10, 1945, as World War II was coming to an end, General Eisenhower signed an order creating the status of Disarmed Enemy Forces for the German Prisoners of War who would soon be surrendering to the Americans. This order was a violation of the Geneva Convention because it allowed Eisenhower to disregard the rules for the treatment of Prisoners of War. It allowed him to starve the German POWs, deny them the right to send and receive letters, and to receive Red Cross packages and packages from German civilians. All of these rights were enjoyed by the prisoners in the Nazi POW camps and even in the notorious concentration camps. Eisenhower signed this order before he had even seen the horrors of the Ohrdruf camp.

In his book entitled Other Losses, James Bacque wrote the following:

There were no tents in the Gotha DEF camp, only the usual barbed wire fences round a field soon churned to mud. On the first day, they received a small ration of food, which was then cut in half. In order to get it, they were forced to run a gauntlet. Hunched over, they ran between lines of guards who hit them with sticks as they scurried towards their food. On April 27, they were transferred to the U.S. camp at Heidesheim further west where there was no food at all for days, then very little.

On May 7, 1945, the German army had surrendered to General Eisenhower, who refused to shake hands with the German General, as is customary. The neutral country of Switzerland was removed as the Protecting Power for German prisoners, which was another violation of the Geneva Convention. General George S. Patton quickly released the prisoners who had surrendered to his Third Army, but General Eisenhower held his POWs until the end of 1946, forcing them to live on starvation rations. German civilians were forbidden to bring food to the POWs. Red Cross packages sent to the German POW camps were returned. The POW camps had no barracks or tents.

German POWs were forced to dig holes for shelter

German POWs were forced to dig holes for shelter

The German prisoners were forced to dig holes in the ground for shelter, as the picture above shows. Even though the American army had plenty of tents, the prisoners lived for months in their holes. When it rained, the holes collapsed and the prisoners died.

After 1947, most of the records of the POW camps were destroyed by the U.S. government, according to James Bacque, as written in his book Other Losses. Bacque wrote that the Germans claimed that 1,700,000 soldiers, who were alive at the end of the war and had surrendered to the Allies, never returned home. All of the Allied countries denied responsibility, and the families were never told what had happened to their loved ones.

The following quote by Lieutenant Ernest Fisher, of the 101st Airborne Division and former Senior Historian of the United States Army is from the book Other Losses:

Starting in April 1945, the United States Army and the French Army casually annihilated about one million men, most of them in American camps.

Eisenhower’s hatred, passed through the lens of a compliant military bureaucracy, produced the horror of death camps unequaled by anything in American military history…

Stephen Ambrose, a noted World War II historian, disputes the claims made by James Bacque. His review of Bacque’s book can be read at this web site:

This quote is from the words of James Bacque, who wrote a book entitled Other Losses:

Under the Geneva Convention, three important rights are guaranteed prisoners of war: that they will be fed and sheltered to the same standard as base or depot troops of the Capturing Power; that they can send and receive mail; and that they will be visited by delegates of the International Red Cross (ICRC) who will report in secret on their treatment to a Protecting Power.  (In the cas eof Germany, as the government disintegrated in the closing stages of the war, Switzerland had been designated the protecting power.)

In fact, German prisoners taken by the U.S. Army at the end of the Second World War were denied these and most other rights by a series of specific decisions and directives stemming mainly from SHAEF–Supreme Headquarters, Allied Expeditionary Force.  General Dwight Eisenhower was both supreme commander of SHAEF–all the Allied armies in northwest Europe–and the commanding general of the U.S. forces in the European theatre.  He was subject to the Combined Chiefs of Staff (CCS) of Britain and the U.S., to the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS), and to the policy of the U.S. government, but in the absence of explicit directives–to the contrary or otherwise–ultimate responsibility for the treatment of the German prisoners in American hands lies with him.

“God , I hate the Germans,” Eisenhower wrote to his wife, Mamie, in September, 1944.  Earlier, in front of the British ambassador to Washington, he had said that all the 3,500 or so officers of the German General Staff should be “exterminated.”

In March, 1945, a message to the Combined Chiefs of Staff signed and initialled by Eisenhower recommended creating a new class of prisoners–Disarmed Enemy Forces, or DEFs–who, unlike Geneva-defined prisoners of war, would not be fed by the army after the surrender of Germany.  This would be a direct breach of the Geneva Convention.  The message, dated March 10, argues in part: “The additional maintenance commitment entailed by declaring the German Armed Forces prisoners [sic] of war which would necessitate the prevision of rations on a scale equal to that of base troops would prove far beyond the capacity of the Allies even if all German sources were tapped.”  It ends: “Your approval is requested.  Existing plans have been prepared upon this basis.”

On April 26, 1945, the Combined Chiefs approved the DEF status for prisoners of war in American hands only: the British members had refused to adopt the American plan for their own prisoners.  The Combined Chiefs stipulated that the status of disarmed troops be kept secret.

By that time, Eisenhower’s quartermaster general at SHAEF, General Robert Littlejohn, had already twice reduced rations for prisoners, and a SHAEF message signed “Eisenhower” had reported to General George Marshall, the U.S. Army Chief of staff, that the prisoner pens would provide “no shelter or other comforts….”

The problem was not supplies.  There was more than enough material stockpiled in Europe to construct prison camp facilities.  Eisenhower’s special assistant, general Everett Hughes, had visited the huge supply dumps at Naples and Marseille and reported:  “More stocks than we can ever use.  Stretch as far as eye can see.”  Food should not have been a problem, either.  In the U.S., wheat and corn surpluses were higher than they had ever been, and there was a record crop of potatoes.  The army itself had so much food in reserve that when a whole warehouse was dropped from the supply list by accident in England it was not noticed for three months.  In addition, the International Red Cross had over 100,000 tons of food in storage in Switzerland.  When it tried to send two trainloads of this to the American sector of Germany, U.S. Army Officers turned the trains back, saying their warehouses were already overflowing with ICRC food which they had never distributed.

Nonetheless it was through the supply side that the policy of deprivation was carried out.  Water, food, tents, space, medicine–everything necessary for the prisoners was kept fatally scarce.  Camp Rheinberg, where Corporal Liebich would fetch up in in mid-May, shivering with dysentery and typhus, had no food at all when it was opened on April 17.  As in the other big “Rhine meadow” camps, opened by the Americans in mid-April, there were no guard towers, tents, buildings, cooking facilities, water, latrines, or food.

The conditions in the American camps along the Rhine in late April were observed by two colonels in the U.S. Army Medical Corps, James Mason and Charles Beasley, who described them in a paper published in 1950:  “Huddled close together for warmth, behind the barbed wire was a most awesome sight–nearly 100,000 haggard, apathetic, dirty, gaunt, blank-staring med clad in dirty field grey uniforms, and standing ankle-deep in mud….The German Divisions Commander reported that the men had not eaten for at least two days, and the provisions of water was a major problem–yet only 200 yards away was the River Rhine running bankfull.”

[…]

On May 4, 1945, the first German prisoners of war in U.S. hands were transferred to DEF status.  The same day, the U.S. war Department banned mail to or from the prisoners.  (when the International Committee of the Red Cross suggested a plan for restoring mail in June, it was rejected.)

On May 8, V-E Day, the German government was abolished and, simultaneously, the U.S. State Department dismissed Switzerland as the protecting power for the German prisoners.  (Prime Minister Mackenzie King of Canada protested to the foreign Office in London the parallel removal of the Swiss as protecting power in British-Canadian camps, but was squelched for his pains.)  With this done, the State Department informed the International Red Cross that, since there was no protecting power to report to, there was no longer and point in visiting the camps.

44 Comments

  1. Eisenhower was a “Jew”. Jesus is right about the hypocrisy of the Judeans. Although, they really can’t label themselves as Judeans or Jews in the Biblical sense, they do not have the faith of Abraham. Jesus called them children of the Devil, the Synagogue of Satan.

    Comment by Dennis Gannon — March 13, 2018 @ 7:05 am

  2. Where is eisenhowers grave so he can piss on it

    Comment by Al Berard — January 27, 2017 @ 10:23 pm

    • You wrote: “Where is eisenhowers grave so he can piss on it”

      Do you want Eisenhower to piss on his own grave?

      Comment by furtherglory — January 28, 2017 @ 7:19 am

    • I wouldn’t waste nutritious piss on that faggot.

      Comment by kenek — February 2, 2018 @ 8:52 pm

  3. general eisenhower Was A BASTARD if I was related to him I would have changed my Name and would have PISS on his grave at the first opportunity.
    He should have been striped of rank and declared DISCRASE to the USA.
    I assume he is still suffering IN HELL.
    FOR EVER & A DAY ! !

    Comment by Danie — February 25, 2016 @ 4:11 am

  4. I am no supporter of German Nazis but German POW’s (except the SS) deserved to be treated as human beings and not to be denied food, shelter, and medicine. I am not in agreement what Eisenhower and the US Government did to these German prisoners!

    Comment by Fred Hoffman — February 12, 2016 @ 7:26 am

  5. Reblogged this on News For The Blind.

    Comment by apocalypse29 — November 2, 2015 @ 3:35 am

  6. What happened to the ONE MILLION bodies. Did they just evaporate?

    Comment by jeff — April 11, 2015 @ 6:22 pm

    • The German POWs were forced to dig holes in the ground for shelter. I assume that, when they died, their holes were just covered over and this was their grave. I have met and talked with one of the prisoners in Eisenhower’s camp. He was allowed to escape by one of the American soldiers who were guarding the prisoners. He was only 17 years old at the time, and the American soldier took pity on him.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 12, 2015 @ 9:37 am

    • They used lime and dissolved their bodies after death

      Comment by Hanna Cola — June 7, 2016 @ 10:13 am

  7. “Montgomery did not follow these instructions after consultation with Churchill”

    No ice free ports for the Muscovites.

    Stop tinkering with the bell of Nazi/Commie alarm, just look at the dead and wealth stolen.

    Comment by thestoker — February 18, 2013 @ 1:43 am

  8. referring to a report from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). The ICRC reports of several activities that, it said, were “tantamount to torture”: exposure to loud noise or music, prolonged extreme temperatures, or beatings. It also reported that a Behavioral Science Consultation Team (BSCT), also called ‘Biscuit,’ and military physicians communicated confidential medical information to the interrogation teams (weaknesses, phobias, etc.), resulting in the prisoners losing confidence in their medical care.

    Comment by Saundra V. Alford — February 13, 2013 @ 7:49 am

  9. Further Glory,
    Stay away from Rense.com. To give people the story of Rheinwiesenlager and other Allied camps, go to http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/. This is Maria Schmidt’s site (also Gruettner) who grew up right in that area and saw, as a child, those enclosures with the pathetic victims inside. Her site should be better known. She has worked all her life to publicize what happened there. Thanks.

    Comment by Carolyn Yeager — January 31, 2013 @ 9:54 pm

    • Thanks for the link. I have added the link to my blog post. I put the link in the sentence which has the link to Rense.com. I try to give all sides of any subject. I find it hard to read about Eisenhower’s death camps, so I did not read all of Maria Schmidt’s site. I will do that later.

      Comment by furtherglory — February 1, 2013 @ 10:48 am

    • Why stay away from Rense?..Some of the best info comes from his site

      Comment by Hanna Cola — June 7, 2016 @ 10:17 am

  10. Not “a stain on American History”. After so many years of jewish anti-German propaganda (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t937921/) the Americans were proud of killing as many “German Huns” as possible: http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.be/2011/05/allies-boast-of-killing-1000000-german.html?zx=77da55d4d6c7e990

    Comment by hermie — January 30, 2013 @ 6:36 am

    • The propaganda against the “Huns” started in World War One. That is why so many German-Americans changed their names to the English translation; for example, Schmidt became Smith. The German names of towns in America were also changed. After the World War II propaganda, most Americans have now turned against the German people. Young people today are thoroughly indoctrinated in hatred of the German people.

      Comment by furtherglory — January 30, 2013 @ 10:31 am

  11. I was the person that triggered this reaction to Eisenhower’s so-called Death Camps, one thing I did not mention was the pity the number of American GI’s had on me and their generosity, not only giving me lighter jobs, surplus Army clothing and an early discharge into civilian life by a friendly 1st Lt., whom I begged to take me back into an POW Camp. I will never forget and am ever so grateful the help they extended to me and the influence it had on what I am today

    Comment by Herbert Stolpmann — January 29, 2013 @ 8:34 pm

    • I have talked, in person, with another German soldier who was in one of Eisenhower’s death camps. He said that an American guard took pity on him and allowed him to escape. I am happy to hear your testimony that not all of the Americans were cruel.

      Comment by furtherglory — January 30, 2013 @ 10:33 am

      • This is an incredibly weak reply to this lying Jew’s propaganda that he places here. You believe him and thank him for it?! He starts out by saying “I was the person that triggered this reaction to Eisenhower’s so-called Death Camps …” What is that supposed to mean? Just what is he claiming? Notice he puts “so-called” in front of Death Camps (dismissing them by that means), followed by many words about how great the American GI’s were to him, how generous. Oh, they were his heroes!

        Where was he when this took place — certainly not in one of those camps. Did he proclaim himself as a Jew, thus getting his special treatment? He sounds like he only cared about his own well-being, which is very Jewish in itself.

        I would like to know why you BELIEVE what this person says. He has been outed as a liar regarding his comments several times already. I sort of recall it was me who first did it. Okay, I just found it easily with a google search: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/time-magazines-1938-man-of-the-year-was-adolf-hitler/ I was posting as Sceptic then. But this liar is still here and being taken seriously. Was he even there? Have we ever seen any real credentials from him?

        As to saying these Rhine meadow camps were a “stain on American history” … they are much more than that! They are a CRIME of gigantic, unprecedented magnitude from which America still seeks to distance itself, with the help of people like the despicable Herbert Stolpmann.

        Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 1, 2013 @ 8:33 am

        • Something got added to the link. It is https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/time-magazines-1938-man-of-the-year-was-adolf-hitler/
          Quite an interesting discussion a little over one year ago.

          As to his ID from Dachau he has shown, he says he was in the SS hospital there, it does not say he was an inmate. Has there been any discussion about this ID?

          Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 1, 2013 @ 8:48 am

          • Herb states in different places that he “lived in the old SS-Hospital Haus.No 52B for 10 years.” Also that he “surrendered to the US Army (in) May 1945 and stayed and worked for them until … 1956” when he moved to New Zealand. So what was he doing for the US Army while living in the old SS hospital at Dachau? Has anyone ever asked him? Watch out, Herbie, I’m coming after you.

            Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 1, 2013 @ 9:17 am

            • I encouraged Herb Stolpmann to create a blog. This blog post was one of his first posts: http://dachaukz.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2010-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2011-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=1

              Herb is very familiar with what went on at Dachau, or at least that he knows the rumors that were circulating there. He gives some information about himself in a side bar on that blog post cited above.

              It is my understanding that Herb was employed at the hospital in the former SS garrison. The American Military took over the SS garrison and stayed there for 28 years. The Dachau concentration camp was located inside the walls of a compound which included the SS garrison. At the time that Herb was in the Dachau hospital, the former concentration camp was filled with German “war criminals” and it was called War Crimes Enclosure No. 1.

              It is not exactly clear to me whether Herb was a prisoner who was working at the hospital in the SS garrison, or whether he was a prisoner who was being taken care of in the hospital because he was sick. Since he was there for 10 years, I am assuming that he was a prisoner who worked there. In any case, I don’t believe that Herb is Jewish. I think that he is sincere in what he writes, although I don’t believe that he is as well informed as some others who have studied the Holocaust from both sides.

              Comment by furtherglory — February 1, 2013 @ 11:26 am

          • Sorry, keep forgetting. Thanks for your tolerance. Herbie may not be a Jew, but then he is something worse — a German traitor.

            Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 1, 2013 @ 9:18 am

            • You are probably familiar with the term “self hating Jew.” If not, you can read about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-hating_Jew

              The German people have been forced to become “self hating Germans” in order to protect themselves against prosecution and imprisonment. The German people must pretend that they believe in the Holocaust and that they love the Jews, who have never done anything wrong in the entire history of the world. By doing this, Germany has avoided another world war, so don’t be critical of them. All the bombed cities in Germany have been restored, and the German people have managed to keep them that way. Their strategy has worked, so who are we to say that it is wrong.

              Comment by furtherglory — February 1, 2013 @ 10:39 am

              • Oh my goodness. I know Stolpmann is a self-hating German, but not because he was forced to be. There are many many Germans who would not work for the Allies when they took over the camps from the Germans. There are even more Germans who would not put up a blog making up lies about how brutal the Germans were in their KZ’s to the poor Jews. What was Herbie doing living at Dachau for 10 years, has he ever said? Has he ever said just which Eisenhower camp he was in when he was ‘starved?’ And then taken pity on by so many GI’s? This was such a rare occurrence! Do you just accept whatever he says without question?

                By the way, his ID [http://dachaukz.blogspot.com/2011_01_01_archive.html] is stamped by the Landratsamt or Administrative Office in Dachau, 1952. It has the official stamp of Bavaria 4 times. He looks young in the picture, and prosperous. He looks like a born bureaucrat, not like a soldier. Was it taken before the war? Or in 1952? He appears to be in a privileged position working for the American Military Authority.

                Herbie has been living in New Zealand since 1956, so there is no need for him to pretend. None at all. You are actually saying that all Germans must be disloyal like Herb in order to keep themselves from being bombed into the stone age again, and this is a strategy. No, it is simply cowardice or treason when people won’t confront lies about themselves and their people, openly and aggressively. I understand the brainwashing that went on, and still does, but this does not apply to Herb, who tells his stories as if he were an expert on it all.

                I’ll wait and hope to get some answers to these questions from Herb or anyone else. Thanks for allowing me to pursue this.

                Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 1, 2013 @ 11:39 am

                • I lived in Germany for two years shortly after World War II ended. I know that a lot of German citizens worked on the American Army bases because there were few jobs available to them. The American Army provided a whole new industry for Germany; there was nothing left for the Germans except to work for the Americans. I observed that the German people were treated badly by the Americans, especially by the American Jews who were in Germany at that time.

                  There was an extreme housing shortage in Germany because so many houses had been destroyed in the bombing. People were living in “garden houses” in the back of the homes that were still standing. A “garden house” was about the size of a one-car garage. The German people were literally starving. They were going to the houses where Americans lived and asking if they could work for food.

                  Keep in mind that there were a lot of “expellees” who were ethnic Germans that had been kicked out of countries like the Czech Republic. These people were homeless; they were walking around in rags and begging for food. The former Dachau concentration camp was turned into a camp for these Czech expellees and they stayed there for 17 years. Mr. Stolpmann was lucky that he found a place to live at the SS garrison at Dachau. I can understand why he stayed there for 10 years. What was his alternative?

                  Comment by furtherglory — February 1, 2013 @ 12:58 pm

              • I HOPE YOU LIVE IN GERMANY BECAUSE A FOOL LIKE YOU IS NOT NEEDED IN AMERICA.

                Comment by LEE ANDERSON — February 10, 2014 @ 3:59 am

        • What he means is that he was the one who inspired me to write about Eisenhower’s Death Camps. I had a hard time understanding this phrase myself, but I finally figured out what he was talking about. I will comment more later — I have to take time out to eat breakfast.

          Comment by furtherglory — February 1, 2013 @ 8:54 am

        • I DIDN’T THINK THAT SO MANY IGNORANT PEOPLE STILL EXISTED IN THIS WORLD… BUT I AM AMAZED AT THE LEVEL OF ANTI-SEMITISM THAT STILL EXISTS.
          CAROLYN TALKS ABOUT EISENHOWER’S DEATH CAMPS, AN EXPRESSION WHICH ONLY EXISTS IN A NAZI MIND. SOMEONE NAMED CARL REFERS TO THE HOLOHOAX. HE MUST BE A MORON, A VERY HATEFUL MORON. WELL, ALL I WILL SAY IS LOOK HOW THE “SUPERIOR RACE” WAS LEFT. THE CRUELTY THAT WAS PERPETUATED BY THE DEPRAVED GERMAN PEOPLE WILL MARK YOUR COUNTRY FOR CENTURIES TO COME.YOU TALK ABOUT THE HONOR OF THE GERMAN WOMEN? THE ENTIRE COUNTRY WAS MORALLY BANKRUPT. HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HONOR? WHAT ABOUT THE REAL DEATH CAMPS THAT YOUR COWARDLY HITLER RAN? HATEFUL BASTARDS LIKE YOU ARE PROBABLY THE USUAL WHITE TRASH THAT HATES EVERYONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING AND FUEL THEMSELVES WITH JEALOUSIES AND INSECURITIES. ADD THIS TO YOUR LIST, THINK ABOUT IT WITH YOUR TORMENTED,
          TWISTED MINDS….HITLER WAS A DRUG RIDDEN, DEMENTED, IMPOTENT JERK WHO MANAGED TO GET AN ENTIRE POPULATION TO FOLLOP HIMTO UTTER
          DEVASTATION…SO HOW SMART IS YOUR SO-CALLED SUPERIOR RACE? A BUNCH OF NAZI PIGS WHO WERE ABLE TO BULLY PEACEFUL COUNTIES AND PEOPLE. THEY WEREN’T MEN WHO WOULD STAND UP FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVED, NO THEY RAN OR KILLED THEMSELVES. HOW PROUD YOU MUST BE.

          ON THE OTHER HAND, LOOK AT THE JEWS….MORE AND MORE SUCCESSFUL WITH EVERY GENERATION. YOU ARE PATHETIC! THANK YOU FOR THE COMIC RELIEF.

          LEE

          Comment by LEE ANDERSON — February 10, 2014 @ 3:54 am

    • What do you mean? There were no “jobs,” light or otherwise in those camps, there was no clothing. What were “the number” of Amer. GI’s that had pity on you, and where was this? There is no clarity in your words.

      Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 1, 2013 @ 9:44 am

      • Keep in mind that English is not Stolpmann’s native language. For a native German speaker, English is a hard language to learn because it does not have clear rules, as does German. I think that Herb does very well in writing English; I’ve seen worse. Although I know a little German, I would never dream of doing a blog in German.

        Comment by furtherglory — February 1, 2013 @ 11:34 am

        • Okay, FG and those reading, I’m going to try to sum this up so far. You say that you encouraged Herb Stolpmann to create a blog. Shame on you! 🙂 Even though it was you who encouraged him, you also excuse his deliberate vagaries about himself by saying English is not his native language — therefore he can’t write very well. You say you would never do a blog in a language you didn’t know well, but you encouraged him to do so. If he cannot make sensible sentences in English, he should not be writing about “death camps” especially!

          But actually he can do so; and he’s been living in New Zealand since 1956, an English-speaking country, and worked for Ford Motor Co. from where he retired. How could he not be very familiar with it.

          Then, the reason you encouraged him is that “he is very familiar with what went on at Dachau, or at least that he knows the rumors that were circulating.” Isn’t there quite a difference between what really went on and what the rumors were? But then you say “I don’t believe that he is as well informed as some others who have studied the Holocaust from both sides.” But if he were at Dachau for 10 years after the war, he ought to know a lot about what went on. It seems he wants to give only one side and is not honest. How valuable is that?

          Then you say it is your understanding that ….” he was employed at the hospital by the U.S. Military — followed by, “It is not really clear” … whether he was a prisoner working there or a sick patient. Why not ask him? I asked it here but he has not answered.

          It certainly is not clear what his capacity was the whole 10 years and again you don’t feel a need to ask him. So you ASSUME what makes the most sense to you. He wrote above that “… Eisenhower’s so-called Death Camps, one thing I did not mention was the pity the number of American GI’s had on me and their generosity, not only giving me lighter jobs, surplus Army clothing and an early discharge into civilian life …” Did this take place in an Eisenhower death camp, or where? Where did he get “lighter jobs and surplus army clothing?” Very important is the EARLY DISCHARGE INTO CIVILIAN LIFE. Yet he stayed at the SS Hospital Building for 10 years, but it seems to have been only an administrative (or housing?) building then, not a hospital anymore. All we have to do is ask him, since he was living there, he knows.

          He was clearly not a sick patient. He was discharged and went to work for the U.S. Military, from what he says. He was obviously not even close to being considered a “war criminal.” But maybe accusing others of such? As he does now to this day.

          It’s clear you know nothing about Stolpmann, but you try to fit him into what you know about Dachau. Since you’re such good friends, why not ask him some probing questions and expect/demand that he give clear, concrete answers? Or are you too considerate and soft-hearted for that? Remember the millions of German victims of American-Jewish savagery; stiffen up and get to the bottom of this for their sake. He is not one of them or he wouldn’t be doing what he’s doing.

          Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 1, 2013 @ 4:09 pm

          • I agree with Carolyn. This Herbert sounds like a liar. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is a teen or a young adult typing his “testimonies” from Tel Aviv. 😉

            Comment by hermie — February 2, 2013 @ 7:54 pm

          • DID YOU REALLY THINK GERMANY WOULD BOMB BRITAIN, OCCUPY COUNTRY AFTER COUNTRY AND IT WOULD NOT BE ANSWERED?
            YOU WIMPER AND CRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER GERMANY’S AGGRESSION AND ENDLESS MURDERS. FINE TO GIVE IT BUT YOU DON’T WANT TO TAKE IT. HERE’S SOME ADVICE… IF YOU CAN’T CATCH, DON’T PITCH. GERMANY SHOULD GET OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF WAR… SHE’S JUST NOT GOOD AT IT.

            YOU DON’T HAVE TO BOTHER TO REPLY. I DID NOT ASK TO BE NOTIFIES OF FUTURE COMMENTS. I’VE HAD A GOOD LAUGH AND YOU’RE NOT WORTH ANY MORE OF MY TIME.

            Comment by LEE ANDERSON — February 10, 2014 @ 4:05 am

    • Okay Herb, I am asking you directly: What is your relationship to “Eisenhower’s Death Camps?”

      Where were you when American GI’s had pity on you, and gave you lighter jobs and surplus Army clothing?

      When exactly did you receive an early discharge into civilian life? Since you were presumably a German soldier, how could a “friendly 1st Lt.” (American) give you “an early discharge?”

      In what capacity did you remain at Dachau for 10 years?

      If you’re going to claim all the things you do (for example, being an expert witness on WWII concentration camps and Gestapo tactics), you should be willing to fill in the details. If not, you are commenting here dishonestly.

      Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 4, 2013 @ 9:33 am

    • HERB, here you show us your discharge papers. http://dachaukz.blogspot.com/2011/03/my-discharge-papers-from-pow-camp.html

      They are impossible to read and have no dates. Most all of the images on your site can be enlarged, but NOT THESE TWO. When I enlarged them in my own photo viewer, they were too blurry to read there too. However, they are definitely US Army documents in English, but at the bottom of the first one some comments are typed in German.

      The first document (or first side?) doesn’t have your name anywhere, or any dischargee’s name, only a thumbprint.

      The second document has the name Stolpmann typed in, and under that Herbert. Occupation is Student. No dates. Dates have been defaced or erased.

      At the top left, it reads Discharge-pay and under that Total. After Discharge-pay we see a 4 and the rest whited-out. Total is blank. Under “A Medical Certificate” we find nothing decipherable.

      This requires explanation but you offer only these images, not a word about them … while we find long, long columns of text about the brutalities of the SS and Gestapo against your non-German friends, communists, British agents, resistance fighters and so on.

      Explain what is missing or indecipherable on these “discharge papers” or don’t expect us or anyone to find them proof of anything except that your “friends with the US Army” gave you some form of “discharge.” Why so quiet about these documents?

      Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 4, 2013 @ 10:39 am

      • Well, shoot. Now I can enlarge the 2nd one, but not the first. Before I could not enlarge either one, but I was in the archives. Might make a difference, but in the archives I could enlarge all the other images I tried.
        Now I can make out under Medical Certificate that you had NO bruising marks and NO disability.

        Could this have been given to you in 1955 or 6? Why no dates and no stamps on this document?

        Comment by Carolyn Yeager — February 4, 2013 @ 10:50 am

  12. “The term “death camp” is used by Holocaustians to mean a Nazi concentration camp where prisoners were taken to be deliberately killed in gas chambers or worked to death. The term Vernichtungslager (extermination camp) was coined by the Allies to refer to the six Nazi “death camps”: Chelmno, Belzec, Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanek and Auschwitz-Birkenau.”

    Not really. All the concentration camps that were liberated by the Allies were first called “death camps”. Just after WW2 people were told there were dozens of Nazi “death camps”. Only the Iron Curtain prevented the 6 actual alleged “death camps” from falling too. When the Iron Curtain finally fell the Holocaust lobby had taken measures to prevent free investigations from taking place in those 6 “death camps”.

    Comment by hermie — January 29, 2013 @ 5:19 pm

  13. No innocence in war. Many sad things done by the USA. The saddest of the USA deeds was done in Chicago in the civil war. 1/2 or more Southern POW died by the cold. Thank you for sharing real and forgotten history.

    Comment by johncoyote — January 29, 2013 @ 11:40 am


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