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April 21, 2016

Hitler’s Peace Plans

Filed under: Germany, World War II — Tags: — furtherglory @ 6:35 am

I woke up this morning, and found a very long comment, which was put up last night by one of the followers of my blog. I am publishing the comment so that all my readers can see it.

Hitler’s Peace Plans

Compiled by Mark R. Elsis

“After visiting these two places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived . . .
He had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”
Prelude to Leadership: The European Diary of John F. Kennedy, Summer 1945

The Hitler Speech They Don’t Want You To Hear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G57GKUtWzNs

What The World Rejected
Hitler’s Peace Offers, 1933- 1939
by Dr. Friedrich Stieve
http://ihr.org/other/what-the-world-rejected.html

Everything People Believed About Hitler’s Intentions Toward Britain Was A Myth Created By Churchill
by Kevin Myers
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-everything-people-believed-about-hitlers-intentions-toward-britain-was-a-myth-created-by-churchill-26866697.html

An Overview Of Hitler’s Peace Proposals
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t378972

Evidence The British Forced
Hitler To Continue WWII
The Hitler-Hess Deception
by Martin Allen
http://www.rense.com/general46/evii.htm

Nazis ‘offered To Leave Western Europe In Exchange For Free Hand To Attack Ussr’
It Was One Of The Most Perplexing Episodes Of The Second World War Which, More Than 70 Years On, Remains Shrouded In Mystery.
by Jasper Copping
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10336126/Nazis-offered-to-leave-western-Europe-in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html

What the World Rejected: Hitler’s Peace Offers, 1933-1939 – Time To Face The Facts!
http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/29/what-the-world-rejected-hitlers-peace-offers-1933-1939-time-to-face-the-facts

What The World Rejected : Hitler’s Peace Offers, 1933-1939 (with C.C.)
Dr. Friedrich Stieve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8VU2Fd_sM

Churchill, Hitler And The Unnecessary War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill,_Hitler_and_the_Unnecessary_War

Adolf Hitler: Man Of Peace?
by Mike kinh
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id570.html

Hitler Gives 16 Point Peace Plan
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1499&dat=19390831&id=h6VQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HSIEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5991,3898320

Hitler’s Peace Plans No Surrender If They Are Rejected ..
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19391011&id=AJJDAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F4sMAAAAIBAJ&pg=3317,4051196

09 Oct 1939 – World Rejects Hitler’s “Peace” Plan …
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/11259532

Witness to History
By Michael Walsh
Complete Disarmament Offered By Hitler:
On May 17th, 1933, in a speech to the Reichstag, Hitler offered complete German disarmament, if others would do likewise. There was no response.
After October 14th, 1933, Hitler again put forward proposals which included arms limitation, particularly the elimination of weapons designed for use against civilian populations, and the preparation of a mutual non-aggression pact. France said ‘non!’ Others did not responds at all, and France, Britain and Russia increased their arms build-up.
On May 21st, 1935, Hitler sought to limit the dropping of gas, incendiary and explosive bombs out side of battle zones. He was also ready to agree to the abolition of the heaviest artillery and tanks, and to accept any limitation on the size of naval vessels. Again, there was no response save for France making an aggressive anti-German alliance with the Soviet Union.
On March 31st, 1936, Hitler formulated a nineteen-point peace plan that included the reduction of arms, and to bring aerial warfare under the protection of the Geneva Convention. His proposals were ignored.
The repeated rejection of Hitler’s proposals to assure equitable peace in Europe would indicate that the Western powers were preparing for armed conflict against Germany, a conflict from which only the allies could benefit. Lord Lothian had predicted such a war in a speech on June 5th, 1934.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/witness2.htm

World Peace Or War Of Destruction? : Adolf Hitler’s Peace Plan
Author: Adolf Hitler
Publisher: Hamburg : President Heinrich Kessemeier, [1939?]
http://www.worldcat.org/title/world-peace-or-war-of-destruction-adolf-hitlers-peace-plan/oclc/22868785

Prime Minister Winston Churchill Finally Reveals Hitlers Secret Plan For Peace!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm9IjDgI4lU

Hitler’s War
(Peace) Overtures
by David Irving
http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/1977/html_chapter/02.html

Hitler 1936-45: Nemesis
Characteristically, Hitler ‘s first step after his ‘election’ success was to present a ‘peace plan’ – generous in his own eyes – to his coveted allies, the British. On 1 April, his special envoy in London, Joachim von Ribbentrop, the former champagne salesman who had become his most trusted adviser in foreign affairs, passed on the offer Hitler had drafted the previous day to the British government. It included a four-month moratorium on any troop reinforcements in the Rhineland, together with an expression of willingness to participate in international talks aimed at a twenty-five-year peace pact, restricting production of the heaviest forms of artillery alongside bans on the bombing of civilian targets and usage of poison-gas, chemical, or incendiary bombs.
by Ian Kershaw
http://www.theguardian.com/education/2002/jan/04/highereducation.books

What The World Rejected:
Hitler’s Peace Offers 1933-1939
by Dr. Friedrich Stieve
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.htm

Papers From Hitler’s Deputy To Be Auctioned
In the midst of war, Hitler’s deputy flew to Scotland with a peace treaty for the British in his suitcase. Now, documents which could shine a light on what Rudolf Hess really wanted are up for auction in the US.
http://www.dw.de/papers-from-hitlers-deputy-to-be-auctioned/a-17080893

Hitler Makes A Peace Offer To Britain
19th July 1940: Hitler makes a Peace offer to Britain
http://ww2today.com/hitler-makes-a-peace-offer-to-britain

Was World War II The Result Of Hitler’s Master Plan?
http://jessbcuzz.weebly.com/uploads/8/4/7/2/8472357/hitlers_master_plan.pdf

Historian Uncovers New Account:
Document Suggests Hitler Knew Of Hess’ British Flight Plans
Was Rudolf Hess’s infamous flight to Great Britain in 1941 coordinated with Adolf Hitler? Although historians have long believed that the Nazi Party’s second-in-command was acting on his own, newly revealed statements by a senior Hess adjutant may suggest otherwise.
by Jan Friedmann and Klaus Wiegrefe
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/historian-uncovers-new-account-document-suggests-hitler-knew-of-hess-british-flight-plans-a-765607.html

When Hitler Dropped Peace Leaflets, Churchill Dropped Bombs!
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id763.html

What the World Rejected:
Hitler’s Peace Offers, 1933-1939 – Time to face the facts!
http://justice4germans.com/2013/06/29/what-the-world-rejected-hitlers-peace-offers-1933-1939-time-to-face-the-facts

What The World Rejected : Hitler’s Peace Offers, 1933-1939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8VU2Fd_sM

Hitler Pleas For Peace — Fdr Prepares For War
by Mike King
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id958.html

The Forced War: When Peaceful Revision Failed (.pdf)
by David L. Hoggan
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdf_books/david%20hoggan-the%20forced%20war.pdf

President Roosevelt And The Origins Of the 1939 War
by David L. Hoggan
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p205_Hoggan.html

20 Comments »

  1. To get a true flavour of the arrogant and cynical nature of this selfish – often drunk – individual, named Winston Churchill, then how about this statement;-

    “History will be unkind to Neville Chamberlain, because I shall be writing the history.”

    Say what you will about Chamberlain, but he did at least attempt to prevent war breaking out by his policy of “appeasement”. OK, he was the prime minister of a major European power that wanted to preserve its own interests in Europe and around the world, and was obviously preparing for a possible outbreak of hostilities by massively expanding the Royal Air Force, and preparing the Royal Navy.

    At the same time, however, he did make several trips to Germany to try and save the peace. But the trouble was – he wanted to preserve as much of the post-WW1 settlement as he could ( which was very favourable to both Britain and France ), while Germany was seeking its total dismemberment. Hitler regarded the Versailles Treaty as an abomination, and a source of national shame for Germany.

    Comment by Talbot — April 21, 2016 @ 12:04 pm

  2. What an amazing collection of resources. Thanks, FG for featuring this and Jim, for submitting it for this discussion forum!

    Comment by Diane King — April 21, 2016 @ 10:19 am

  3. If not for Hitler, we would ALL be living under communism–still today. Hitler saved our ungrateful asses! Hitler saved us from our own stupidity.

    America deserves Bernie Sanders as President–that will be a true “learning experience.” The smiles will rule at first–but after that, “terror” will prevail to make things work again, somehow–or other. And after awhile, we will all be cheering for a “new” Hitler to save us. Repeat, repeat, repeat!

    I was once asked in court by a judge whether I was a “Nazi.” I said “no” because I was annoyed by that loaded question and wanted to simply move on. I should have said that given the circumstances that Germany faced in the early 1930’s, I would definitely be a Nazi as well–but, but, but the world has changed for the better after the horrors of WW2. The US, which was the “arsenal for communism” during WW2, became almost magically the “arsenal against communism” after WW2. That was a fantastic change. Today, “national-socialism” prevails, silently, in most of the countries of the world including the US, and Israel–but not Germany. “Dictatorship” with “lipstick” (Germany today) is widely accepted as an alternative to things which are, supposedly, far worse.

    Friedrich Paul Berg
    Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
    Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
    There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
    http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
    The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

    Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — April 21, 2016 @ 9:01 am

    • “If not for Hitler, we would ALL be living under communism–still today. Hitler saved our ungrateful asses! Hitler saved us from our own stupidity.”

      How?

      Hitler’s invasion of the USSR and subsequent ejection caused the SPREAD of Communism into Eastern Europe, an area staunchly anti-Communist. Except for the USSR there were no Communist countries in Europe.

      Comment by Jeff K. — April 21, 2016 @ 11:13 am

      • Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union in June of 1941 inflicted so much pain on the Soviets that by the end of the war, even though they were among the “victors,” they could not get past the center of Germany. They had imagined, even well before May of 1941, that with their vast material superiority they would “liberate” all of Europe–and with America infiltrated at the highest levels by Soviet agents, America would fall soon thereafter. The man designated to replace Roosevelt during most of the war was Henry Wallace who, although not a communist himself, was as pro-Soviet as anyone could be without being an actual party member.

        But then, a strange thing happened, Roosevelt’s vice-president became Harry Truman in 1945–and after Roosevelt’s death, Truman became president and turned on America’s “greatest ally” during the war. That saved our asses after the war. But during the war itself and before the miraculous appearance of Harry Truman, the man who saved us was Adolf Hitler.

        Friedrich Paul Berg
        Learn everything at: http://www.nazigassings.com
        Nazi Gassings Never Happened! Niemand wurde vergast!
        There were NO “limited gassings!” There were NO homicidal Nazi Gassings at all!
        http://www.nazigassings.com/Railroad.html
        The REAL Mass Murderers were the Anglo-Americans and the Jews themselves!

        Comment by Friedrich Paul Berg — April 21, 2016 @ 12:40 pm

  4. Hess’s flight to Scotland (if it was the real Hess) seems really stupid, risking his life breaching enemy lines, why wouldn’t Hess have gone to a diplomat and given the peace plans?

    Comment by Raquel Baranow — April 21, 2016 @ 9:00 am

    • Raquel Baranow wrote: “why wouldn’t Hess have gone to a diplomat and given the peace plans?”

      Because the British diplomats were in the bed of Britain’s warmongers. Hess had to try to reach the few men wanting peace with Germany in Britain.

      Comment by hermie — April 21, 2016 @ 9:06 am

      • If that’s the case Hitler obviously didn’t know about it, which is why he said “Hess” was insane. The British seemed to think he was insane too and sent many psychiatrists to interview him. Meanwhile, Germany did not take advantage of the press and push for peace. (I won’t respond again on this thread but will continue on Furtherglory’s recent post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/rudolf-hess/)

        Comment by Raquel Baranow — April 21, 2016 @ 2:15 pm

        • Raquel Baranow wrote: “If that’s the case Hitler obviously didn’t know about it, which is why he said “Hess” was insane. ”

          I think Hitler said Hess was insane because he could definitely not look like a weak leader at that critical moment of WW2 with another peace offer and the ‘sacrifice’ of the number three man in the Reich. There is nothing worse for a nation at war than belief in the weakness of its leader. Moreover it was better for the sake of Hess himself to be depicted as an unsane guy acting alone than as the successor of Hitler after Goering in Allied custody. IMO, the plan was to claim that Hess was an unsane guy acting individually if the peace mission was a failure and to admit that he was the envoy of Hitler only if the peace mission was successful.

          Raquel Baranow wrote: “The British seemed to think he was insane too and sent many psychiatrists to interview him.”

          Much better for British prestige to say that Hess was an unsane lonely man rather than an official envoy of Hitler in peace mission. Don’t forget Hitler was supposedly a megalomaniac warlord out for world domination in Allied propaganda. Hitler’s numerous peace offers were/are quite embarrassing for that narrative.

          Raquel Baranow: “Meanwhile, Germany did not take advantage of the press and push for peace.”

          I fail to see how the anti-Semitic Third Reich could have taken any advantage of the Jew-owned press in Britain and America…

          Comment by hermie — April 21, 2016 @ 6:30 pm

    • You wrote: “Hess’s flight to Scotland (if it was the read Hess)”

      I wrote about the flight of Rudolf Hess on these blog posts:
      https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/rudolf-hess/

      Comment by furtherglory — April 21, 2016 @ 9:30 am

    • You learn so much clicking the links that people post here.

      666ismoney?

      The song “Crazy Train” best describes what I saw.

      Just a bit of advice:
      If you want people to post your adds in their newspapers leave out the word “motherf****er.”
      Just saying….

      Oh, and crazy train, it is a common misconception that the Nazis gassed six million Jews. About 2.5 million Jews died in the gas chambers. The rest died from being shot, malnutrition, disease and maltreatment. Even a lot of deniers acknowledge that Jews died due to the harsh conditions of the camps and ghettos.

      Comment by Jeff K. — April 21, 2016 @ 11:27 am

      • You wrote: “it is a common misconception that the Nazis gassed six million Jews. About 2.5 million Jews died in the gas chambers.”

        Could you give us a list of the camps that had gas chambers, along with how many Jews died in each of these gas chambers? The Nazis didn’t keep records of the names of the Jews that they gassed. How are these deaths known by the True Believers?

        Comment by furtherglory — April 21, 2016 @ 12:58 pm


  5. September 12, 1939

    Comment by hermie — April 21, 2016 @ 8:13 am

    • The “16 point proposal” put forward by Germany regarding Danzig and “the Polish Corridor” doesn’t seem particularly belligerent or aggressive in tone to me. After all, Danzig was really a German city anyway, whose people were overwhelmingly German, not Polish, and who wanted to be included in the Reich.

      Poland had its own trading port city of Gdynia nearby, but there is no demand in these proposals to take it over. It states quite clearly that Gdynia should remain as part of Poland, with free and open access to it secured by treaty.

      In fact, the proposals consider the question of Polish national interests as well as German ones. Point 14 states;- “Neither country shall expect of the minority of the other that it renders services incompatible with national honor. Hence Germans will not ask military services of the Polish minority nor Poles of the German minority.”

      In point 11, it states;- “To eliminate bad feeling, both Danzig and Gydnia are to be purely trading centers, hence demilitarised.” Thus, the Germans are not seeking to turn Danzig into a naval or military garrison that can threaten its neighbour. It even offers Poland equal economic rights in Danzig.

      Germany is not demanding an immediate takeover of “the Polish Corridor”, but an international peace force to move in ( which would include even Soviet forces! ) so that a plebiscite can take place within 12 months.

      And lastly; these are merely German proposals for discussion. They are not a final demand which is being thrust forward on a “take it or leave it” basis. Britain, France and Poland could have submitted their own proposals at the negotiating table – but it seems they were not prepared for any discussion, let alone compromise.

      Was Britain playing a reckless game here at Poland’s expense? By that stage, had Chamberlain and his government decided that they wanted war with Germany, and were forcing Hitler into a position where he had to launch hostilities or back down in humiliation with his proposals unmet?

      It is interesting to note the radio address by Anthony Eden ( Britain’s Secretary of State for Dominion Affairs ) on the 11th September 1939, where he states:-

      “There can be no peace until Nazism…is banished from the earth”. The people of Great Britain were waging war on Germany “with a clear conscience” – ready for a long war.”

      My oh my! – we are not even a fortnight into hostilities, and this gentlemen representing the British government is calling for a large-scale, ongoing war that can only end with the complete annihilation of the enemy.

      Comment by Talbot — April 23, 2016 @ 7:29 am

  6. Kevin Myers also said this:

    http://m.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/im-a-holocaust-denier-but-i-also-believe-the-nazis-planned-the-extermination-of-the-jewish-people-26518240.html

    I actually agree with most of what he said.

    I also wonder if you actually read Ian Kershaw’s biography of Hitler, Jim. I did, it is really one of the best biographies of Hitler I’ve ever read. Maybe you should, it might do you some good.

    Comment by Jeff K. — April 21, 2016 @ 8:13 am

    • I wrote about Ian Kershaw in this blog post.
      https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/der-dolchstoss-and-the-road-to-the-holocaust/

      Ian Kershaw is on the side of the Jews. He writes from the Jewish point of view.

      Comment by furtherglory — April 21, 2016 @ 8:35 am

      • Thomas Dalton wrote the following in an article about Goebbels for the ‘Inconvenient History’ website;-

        Even preeminent British Hitler expert Ian Kershaw could not do much better. The Soviet archives were opened up in the early 1990s;-

        “predictably, a written order by Hitler for the ‘Final Solution’ was not found. The presumption that a single explicit written order had ever been given had long been dismissed by most historians”….

        Rather, this most momentous destruction of human life occurred via;

        “improvised bureaucratic initiatives whose dynamic prompted a process of ‘cumulative radicalization’ in the fragmented structures of decision-making in the Third Reich”.

        So, in the absence of any order for extermination, then the good professor resorts to pompous, mealy-mouthed, empty words all strung together hopefully!

        Comment by Talbot — April 21, 2016 @ 12:30 pm

    • Jeff wrote: “Kevin Myers also said this: http://m.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/im-a-holocaust-denier-but-i-also-believe-the-nazis-planned-the-extermination-of-the-jewish-people-26518240.html I actually agree with most of what he said.”

      Ridiculous. This Jew claims he’s a ‘Holocaust denier’ because the word ‘holocaust’ literally means ‘wholy burnt’ (what is true) and most of the Jews [allegedly] killed by the Nazis were not cremated at Auschwitz but shot on the Eastern front and starved or worked to death in other concentration camps. But Kevin Myers ‘omits’ Paul Blobel and his magic outdoor pyres (Eastern front, Reinhardt camps), as well as the fact that most of the other concentration camps had crematory ovens. So Myers’ ‘other Jews’ were also cremated anyway, according to the exterminationist narrative itself. Ignorance? Or deliberate bamboozlement attempt? Unimportant. Another exterminationist failure for sure…

      Comment by hermie — April 21, 2016 @ 9:01 am

  7. Thanks….

    Great info there….

    Jim Rizoli CCFIILE.COM

    On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Scrapbookpages Blog wrote:

    > furtherglory posted: “I woke up this morning, and found a very long > comment, which was put up last night by one of the followers of my blog. I > am publishing the comment so that all my readers can see it. Hitler’s Peace > Plans Compiled by Mark R. Elsis “After visiting these” >

    Comment by jrizoli — April 21, 2016 @ 6:50 am


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