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October 13, 2016

A photo taken at the Majdanek concentration camp

Filed under: Germany, Holocaust, Uncategorized, World War II — Tags: , , — furtherglory @ 9:34 am
Burned bodies pulled out of the ovens at Majdanek

Burned bodies in front of ovens at Majdanek

In the comments section of my blog, a reader put up a photo which showed the remains of bodies that had been burned. The photo that was put up on my blog showed only the bottom portion of the photograph above.

The burned bodies in the photo above were pulled out of the ovens by the Soviet soldiers who liberated the Majdanek camp after the Germans had left. The Soviets claimed that the Germans had burned prisoners alive in the ovens.

The black and white photo above shows the ruined crematorium as it looked when Russian soldiers arrived at the camp on July 23, 1944. The wooden crematorium building had been set on fire by the Nazis in order to burn the bodies of Polish political prisoners who had been brought from the Gestapo prison at the Castle in Lublin and executed the day before liberation. Their charred remains are shown in the foreground in the photo.

In the background, of the photo, are the brick ovens with iron doors which were not damaged in the fire. The main gas chamber building, which is located down the slope at the other end of the camp, was not burned, leaving behind ample evidence of the Nazi crimes.

In another room of the crematorium building is the concrete dissection table, on which the bodies were examined for valuables hidden in body cavities, according to the tour guide. It was here also that the gold teeth were removed from the victims after they were gassed.

After the camp was liberated, bones of the cremated victims were gathered and put on display in a glass case, according to accounts written by visitors to Majdanek. I didn’t see any glass case, but there was a large closed casket on display in the crematorium. The casket was covered with funeral wreaths, bouquets of flowers and candles left by visitors.

The tour guide pointed out a new memorial plaque, placed at the crematorium in 1998, which had upgraded the percentage of Jewish victims in the Majdanek camp to 48%. The former number was 41%, which is mentioned in the guidebook. During the Communist regime in Poland, the suffering of the Jews was downgraded and the martyrdom of the Poles was emphasized. Now that is slowing changing to reflect the greater suffering by the Jews. Of the remaining victims, 31% were Polish political prisoners, 16% were POWs from the USSR and 5% were POWs or political prisoners from 26 other countries, according to the Museum booklet. Although most of the prisoners were either Jewish or Christian, there were also a few political prisoners in the camp who were Muslims or Buddhists, according to the Museum booklet.

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  1. In an effort to be helpful, here is the link for Holocaust Controversies:

    https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/?m=1

    Most recent posting:

    https://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2016/10/rebuttal-of-alvarez-on-gas-vans-just.html?m=1

    Comment by Jeff K. — October 18, 2016 @ 12:02 pm

    • Thanks, Jeff K, for your “gas van” fun – thoroughly enjoyable.

      Quote;- ” The Gas Van Explosion”

      “The explosion that we know took place at Chelmno is to be considered an isolated case. The cause can be attributed to improper operation. In order to avoid such incidents, special instructions have been addressed to the offices concerned. Safety has been increased considerably as a result of these instructions.”

      “(memo from Willy Just of 5 June 1942)”
      …….

      After Barry, the Treblinka camp commandant’s dog, and Dario Gabbei, the ” lucky” Sondercommando survivor, Willy Just – who is the mysterious SS gas van mechanic – has now become my 3rd favourite holohoax character.
      …….

      Quote;- ” The incident that a gas van exploded at Chelmno is confirmed by several testimonies. The driver Walter Burmeister testified that “a [gas] van exploded, but I cannot say when this occurred and how this happened” (interrogation of 23 March 1961, BArch B162/3248, p. 71). At least two Germans were badly burnt during their time in Chelmno, however, it is unclear whether this is related to the gas van explosion. The judgement of the West-German Chelmno trial mentions that Alexander Ste. was “burnt in the face and on the hands by an explosion at the basement entrance end of May 1942” (Justiz und NS-Verbrechen Nr. 594). The police guard Hans Sch. claimed that he obtained “burns on upper arm, back of the head and back” because “an spirit stove exploded” (interrogation of 1 February 1962, BArch B162/3249, p. 125).”
      ……

      Oh dear – the calamities that can happen when one is so busy exterminating massive numbers of people by vehicle exhaust fumes can be very distressing for the loyal, committed and long-suffering SS operatives.
      ……

      Quote;- ” Anyway, the cause of the gas van explosion was subsequently investigated at the RSHA. According to Anton S. of the motor pool department of the Security Police:

      “During my work in Wentritt’s repair shop, we received a report from the camp Chelmno that a gas van exploded upon starting up. The doors were blown open and the people inside, who got out, were partly burning. Wentritt and I searched for an explanation for the explosion and we came to the result that the driver of the gas van did not fully turn on the ignition, so that unburned gases reached the exhaust pipe which ignited upon the first spark. We wrote this in a report signed by both of us.”

      “(interrogation of 21 August 1961, NHStA NDS. 721 Hannover Acc. 97/99 Nr.10/23, p. 257)”
      ……

      Isn’t it a pity that the interrogators gave us the first name of Mr S, but not his full surname and rank within the motor pool department of the security police. But never mind – we’ll simply have to accept him as a real person, as well as his testimony as 100% authentic.

      And the explosion inside the gas van must have been a truly horrendous event for everyone involved, but thank goodness they found out the cause of the disaster – it was the driver, who ” did not fully turn on the ignition”. Well, silly old him – I hope he was fully reprimanded for such negligence, because without the full complement of gas vans, then your work-load is going to be drastically reduced.
      ……

      Quote;- ” The explosion was also reported to the Criminal Technical Institute of the Security Police, which had contributed to the development of the gas vans. Theodor L. stated that “half a year or one year after the trial [with the prototype gas van in Sachsenhausen] I became aware that a gas van exploded…the term “processed” matches the tone of the report [to?] Dr. Widmann” (interrogation of 11 July 1962 NHStA NDS. 721 Hannover Acc. 97/99 Nr.10/28, p. 17).
      ……

      Theodor L. is another one of these curious witnesses without a surname. But not only that – we don’t know what his role was, but assume he had something to do with developing “prototype gas vans” at Sachsenhausen. But if this be so, then it was certainly an extraordinarily long period of time ( 6 months to a year) before he was informed of the gas explosion. I would have thought, that a man working energetically to perfect gas vans in order carry out “The Final Solution” would have been informed within a few days of the disaster what had befallen the systematic extermination process.

      But there we are!

      Comment by Talbot — October 19, 2016 @ 11:17 am

      • “Thanks, Jeff K, for your “gas van” fun – thoroughly enjoyable.”

        I’m glad you find genocide so funny.
        No, scratch that. I think it’s deplorable that you find genocide so funny. But, then, you deniers are a funny lot.

        Quote;- ” The Gas Van Explosion”

        “The explosion that we know took place at Chelmno is to be considered an isolated case. The cause can be attributed to improper operation. In order to avoid such incidents, special instructions have been addressed to the offices concerned. Safety has been increased considerably as a result of these instructions.”

        “(memo from Willy Just of 5 June 1942)”
        …….

        “After Barry, the Treblinka camp commandant’s dog, and Dario Gabbei, the ” lucky” Sondercommando survivor, Willy Just – who is the mysterious SS gas van mechanic – has now become my 3rd favourite holohoax character.”

        That’s nice.
        Blake 121666 recently chastised me for asking general questions.
        So, I’ll just narrow this down a bit:
        Here are some transports for Chelmno:

        1941 Dec. 7 Koło 700
        Dec. 8 Koło 700
        Dec. 9 Koło 700
        Dec. 10 Koło 700
        Dec. 11 Koło 700
        Dec. 14 7 D ą bie 975
        Dec. (second half) Dobra 1,100
        1942 Jan. 2–9 Łód ź (Roma) 4,300
        Jan. 10, 12 Kłodawa 1,000
        Jan. 13 Bugaj 600
        Jan. 14–15 Izbica Kujawska 1,000
        Jan. 16–29 Łód ź 10,003

        Pick one, any one and tell me where they went if they didn’t die.

        “Quote;- ” The incident that a gas van exploded at Chelmno is confirmed by several testimonies. The driver Walter Burmeister testified that “a [gas] van exploded, but I cannot say when this occurred and how this happened” (interrogation of 23 March 1961, BArch B162/3248, p. 71). At least two Germans were badly burnt during their time in Chelmno, however, it is unclear whether this is related to the gas van explosion. The judgement of the West-German Chelmno trial mentions that Alexander Ste. was “burnt in the face and on the hands by an explosion at the basement entrance end of May 1942” (Justiz und NS-Verbrechen Nr. 594). The police guard Hans Sch. claimed that he obtained “burns on upper arm, back of the head and back” because “an spirit stove exploded” (interrogation of 1 February 1962, BArch B162/3249, p. 125).”
        ……

        “Oh dear – the calamities that can happen when one is so busy exterminating massive numbers of people by vehicle exhaust fumes can be very distressing for the loyal, committed and long-suffering SS operatives.”

        Well, they did stick with it, Talbot. You have to give them credit for being committed.
        ……

        Quote;- ” Anyway, the cause of the gas van explosion was subsequently investigated at the RSHA. According to Anton S. of the motor pool department of the Security Police:

        “During my work in Wentritt’s repair shop, we received a report from the camp Chelmno that a gas van exploded upon starting up. The doors were blown open and the people inside, who got out, were partly burning. Wentritt and I searched for an explanation for the explosion and we came to the result that the driver of the gas van did not fully turn on the ignition, so that unburned gases reached the exhaust pipe which ignited upon the first spark. We wrote this in a report signed by both of us.”

        “(interrogation of 21 August 1961, NHStA NDS. 721 Hannover Acc. 97/99 Nr.10/23, p. 257)”
        ……

        “Isn’t it a pity that the interrogators gave us the first name of Mr S, but not his full surname and rank within the motor pool department of the security police. But never mind – we’ll simply have to accept him as a real person, as well as his testimony as 100% authentic.”

        Due to German privacy laws the released documents can only list the first name along with a last initial.

        “And the explosion inside the gas van must have been a truly horrendous event for everyone involved, but thank goodness they found out the cause of the disaster – it was the driver, who ” did not fully turn on the ignition”. Well, silly old him – I hope he was fully reprimanded for such negligence, because without the full complement of gas vans, then your work-load is going to be drastically reduced.”

        Well, nobody’s perfect. Not even Germans.

        Quote;- ” The explosion was also reported to the Criminal Technical Institute of the Security Police, which had contributed to the development of the gas vans. Theodor L. stated that “half a year or one year after the trial [with the prototype gas van in Sachsenhausen] I became aware that a gas van exploded…the term “processed” matches the tone of the report [to?] Dr. Widmann” (interrogation of 11 July 1962 NHStA NDS. 721 Hannover Acc. 97/99 Nr.10/28, p. 17).
        ……

        “Theodor L. is another one of these curious witnesses without a surname.”

        See above.

        “But not only that – we don’t know what his role was, but assume he had something to do with developing “prototype gas vans” at Sachsenhausen. But if this be so, then it was certainly an extraordinarily long period of time ( 6 months to a year) before he was informed of the gas explosion. I would have thought, that a man working energetically to perfect gas vans in order carry out “The Final Solution” would have been informed within a few days of the disaster what had befallen the systematic extermination process.

        But there we are!”

        Here we are:

        This is the list of transports for Chelmno, per Montague:

        1941 Dec. 7 Koło 700
        Dec. 8 Koło 700
        Dec. 9 Koło 700
        Dec. 10 Koło 700
        Dec. 11 Koło 700
        Dec. 14 7 D ą bie 975
        Dec. (second half) Dobra 1,100
        1942 Jan. 2–9 Łód ź (Roma) 4,300
        Jan. 10, 12 Kłodawa 1,000
        Jan. 13 Bugaj 600
        Jan. 14–15 Izbica Kujawska 1,000
        Jan. 16–29 Łód ź 10,003

        Tell me what happened to just one of these transports. I’ll let you pick.

        Comment by Jeff K. — October 19, 2016 @ 11:56 am

        • Well, you believe their remains lie beneath a “Field of Ashes” in a forest clearing near Chelmno – but you’ve only got the Poles word for that, and they are by no means an independent or impartial source of truth in this matter.

          But I suspect that the Korherr Report is a more accurate reflection of what really happened to the Jews who were transited through Chemno. I suspect they were sent on by train to camps in the occupied Soviet Union, but the Soviets ( and Poles ) after the war deliberately withheld all the details of this transfer because it didn’t fit into their narrative of mass-killing by the Germans.

          Comment by Talbot — October 19, 2016 @ 12:10 pm

          • “Well, you believe their remains lie beneath a “Field of Ashes” in a forest clearing near Chelmno – but you’ve only got the Poles word for that, and they are by no means an independent or impartial source of truth in this matter.”

            Why would they fake it? That’s ridiculous.
            Talbot, so far the investigations at Chelmno are the only reliable way to determine what happened to the Jews sent there. You and the other deniers haven’t offered any proof that what you spout is true.

            “But I suspect”

            “Suspect” is the key word.

            “that the Korherr Report is a more accurate reflection of what really happened to the Jews who were transited through Chemno. “I suspect”

            There it is again.

            ” they were sent on by train to camps in the occupied Soviet Union”

            Where? Where is the proof?

            “but the Soviets ( and Poles ) after the war deliberately withheld all the details of this transfer because it didn’t fit into their narrative of mass-killing by the Germans.”

            Again, why would they bother?

            Comment by Jeff K. — October 19, 2016 @ 12:20 pm

            • You wrote: “so far the investigations at Chelmno are the only reliable way to determine what happened to the Jews sent there. You and the other deniers haven’t offered any proof that what you spout is true.”

              Chelmno is one of the few Holocaust sites that I have never visited. Nevertheless, I have written about it on my website at
              http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Chelmno/index.html

              I believe that Chelmno was a transit camp. You can start reading about it at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Chelmno/history.html

              Comment by furtherglory — October 19, 2016 @ 12:25 pm

              • “I believe that Chelmno was a transit camp.”

                What do you base that belief on?

                Comment by Jeff K. — October 19, 2016 @ 12:54 pm

                • You wrote: “What do you base that belief on?” [the belief that Chelmno was a transit camp]

                  Chelmno is one of the few Holocaust sites that I never visited. I put up a section about Chelmno on my website after someone sent me some photos of the former camp.
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Chelmno/Tour01.html

                  I did a lot of research on the camp before coming to the conclusion that it was a transit camp. During my research, I learned that it is a place where few tourists go, and those who do are frequently robbed. I travel alone, so I don’t go to dangerous deserted places.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 19, 2016 @ 2:50 pm

  2. Just thought I would make this a headline. Guess what! Schlageter lied, the sign says nothing about the canisters being original.

    Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 6:34 pm

    • Schlageter LIED? Thank God I’m sitting down.

      Comment by Jeff K. — October 18, 2016 @ 11:39 am

      • Yeah, Shocking right.😄😄

        Now we just need Jim to chime in and act like his age somehow makes his arguments superior to others.

        Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 2:18 pm

        • “Yeah, Shocking right.😄😄”

          Absolutely!!!! That’s why I’m glad I was sitting down.
          Naturally the truth is that Schlageter is a vile Nazi/SS wannabe.
          He keeps his uniform and his whip IN HIS CLOSET.
          I’ll let you make of it what you will.

          “Now we just need Jim to chime in and act like his age somehow makes his arguments superior to others.”

          I wonder if Jim still thinks the US declared war on Germany…..yet somehow I’m supposed to believe he is some type of “expert.”

          Comment by Jeff K. — October 18, 2016 @ 2:29 pm

          • “I wonder if Jim still thinks the US declared war on Germany…..yet somehow I’m supposed to believe he is some type of “expert.””

            Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 2:42 pm

            • Truth be known,Churchill probably put Hirohito on his Christmas card list. He knew America would be pulled into the war after the Nips f–ked us at Pearl. So he owed Hirohito a big thank you.

              Comment by Tim — October 18, 2016 @ 9:35 pm

  3. If they didn’t burn any at the prisons,why did the allies make such a big production of the ovens. How come they didn’t give the other locations a lot of publicity?

    Comment by Tim — October 16, 2016 @ 1:42 pm

    • Um…. I am confused by your opinion here Tim. Mind expanding.

      Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 4:39 pm

  4. It was not just inside the Majdanek camp itself, where the mass killings were supposed to have occurred, because according to the HEART pro-holocaust website, some of it took place several kilometres down the road towards Zamosc in the Krepiecki Forest. And apparently, even after the killings had ceased there, the forest was still used afterwards for the burning of many bodies brought from the camp.

    Quote;- ” The executions in Krepiecki forest ceased in October 1942 following the construction of the gas chambers at Majdanek concentration camp, but because the crematoria could not cope, the Germans used the forest as a place where murdered Jews were burned. ”

    According to the official holocaust storyline, there were purpose-built crematoria inside Majdanek, but the SS hadn’t built anywhere near enough furnaces to accommodate the enormous numbers. Therefore, they had decided to burn the bodies on pyres both inside the camp itself, and also outside the perimeter fence in full view of Polish inhabitants living in their homes on the outskirts of Lublin!

    But in addition to these pyres, there were other outdoor cremations going on within in a forest down the road. My-oh-my, there were certainly a lot of burning bodies going on! – and it would appear that the Nazis didn’t seem to care very much about whether the camp inmates and local people witnessed these terrible scenes.

    HEART goes on to say this about the Krepiecki Forest :-

    ” Primitive pyres were constructed from railroad tracks and virtually every day from January 1943 until the summer of that year early each morning trucks containing corpses arrived in the forest. A horrible stench permeated the whole area adjacent to the forest and the fire and smoke was visible from a great distance, the Nazis ordered the Sonderkommando from Majdanek to exhume the bodies of those murdered in 1942 and burn them on pyres.

    ” The burning of the bodies of those murdered in Majdanek lasted until the autumn of 1943 in the Krepiecki forest, until a new bigger crematorium was constructed in the camp. The execution and cremation sites in the forest were not totally destroyed and were visible even in 1946 when the Polish – Soviet commission visited the site. ” ( Now, is that very likely – that the Germans would leave such sites only half-destroyed for future investigators to examine? ).

    ” In 1970 a memorial was built in the Krepiecki forest, the memorial bears the statement that there were about 30,000 people killed or burned there, but in fact it is impossible to determine with any certainty whether this figure is correct. ” ( So, not until 1970 was a memorial built there – obviously what had taken place was deemed not to be very important after all. And nobody had the remotest idea of how many ( if any ) people were killed or burnt there, and so they thought of a very high round number and decided to go with that! )

    Comment by Talbot — October 15, 2016 @ 6:08 am

    • So it would seem reasonable that these bodies could be found somewhere but of course we know the Holohuxsters have an answer to that they took those bodies after they were burned and used the Hammers and sticks and pounded them to dust and the dust has been spread all over the Earth for no one to see sure that sounds reasonable doesn’t it.
      In regards to the number it’s like picking a number out of a hat it really doesn’t matter what the number is it didn’t happen anyway.

      JR

      Comment by jrizoli — October 15, 2016 @ 6:42 am

      • Jim reread the comments section of this thread.

        Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 10:55 am

    • Great Job Tal! You learned to read and conform my point. The only crematorium shut down in 1942 so they wouldn’t have burned them inside the camp crematorium, though the killings at the forest did stop in October they did burn corpses on pyres there in 1943.

      I wouldn’t use heart though, they are not a good resource. For Majdanek I would recommend the USHMM. (Even though their death toll is inflated past the point of reality according to Pressac.)

      Some of hearts claims under the section on Majdanek also claims the canopy was used for camouflage.

      http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=538190#p538190

      You are creating false narratives though. The “official narrative” is that no furnaces existed for the vast majority of the gassing operation. We as wall do not argue that bystanders couldn’t see into the camp, which again you are making a worthless deal about it.

      http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=512105#p512105

      I did mention that the Soviet report mentions a similar cremation grill to that used at Dresden.

      http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2015/05/jansson-finally-answered-my-dresden.html?m=1

      Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 10:47 am

      • DH writes;- ” I wouldn’t use heart though, they are not a good resource. For Majdanek I would recommend the USHMM. (Even though their death toll is inflated past the point of reality according to Pressac.) Some of hearts claims under the section on Majdanek also claims the canopy was used for camouflage. ”

        You old holocausters are hopeless – you can’t present an agreed narrative to present before the public at all. I quoted in good faith from the pro-holocaust HEART website; and then you come along and say “no, no, ignore them, and go to some where else instead” (even though you yourself claim that their figures are inflated and cannot be relied upon).

        And what’s all this about ” a canopy used for camouflage “. Is this true ? – or is it a bit of made-up nonsense that’s been invented by some bright spark because sensible people were pointing out the absurdities of carrying out mass killings in broad daylight in full view of residents in the Lublin suburbs; plus visitors and mourners to the adjacent town cemetery.

        HEART shows us some photos of the memorial that was allegedly built in the Krepiecki Forest. I tried to located it on Google Earth – but in vain. In fact there’s no evidence at all of a forest clearing which has been marked off as a site for the killings and burning pyres. Can you point us to the exact location where you think it all happened – after all, it is claimed there was still undestroyed evidence that remained there when the Soviet Polish Commission arrived in 1946.

        Have got any convincing evidence that the remains of up to 30,000 cremated bodies lie in this forest – or is it just guesswork.

        Comment by Talbot — October 16, 2016 @ 7:22 pm

        • Lol deniers cannot agree ether.

          Leuchter thinks Krema 2 morgue one was a morgue.

          Butz thinks it was used to turn Coke into fuel for the ovens (even though the ovens used solid Coke).

          Mattogno argued that Morgue 1 was a Delousing chamber but this contradicts Leuchters and Butz, as well leuchter said that Homicial gassings would have been impossible in morgue 1 despite which would mean it wouldn’t have been a Delousing chamber ether.

          Eric believes that the gas chamber at Majdanek was used for Delousing.

          but revisionist Irving labeled it an air raid shelter.

          Eric argues the piping in the Bunker at Majdanek was used for delousing purposes.

          David Cole argued the piping never passed though the walls of the bunker.

          Jim Rizoli believes the bone mill was a cement mixer.

          Mattogno says its was Ball mill.

          faurisson argues not only were the gas chambers at risk of explosion. But that the Delousing chambers were also at risk of exploding.

          Burg argued that non of these chambers would explode cause the Homicial level claimed to have been used was 0.3% and that the amount needed to explode was 6%.

          Leuchter lied saying that the explosive level was 0.32% in his report but Rudolf
          claims this was a “typo” but it was most likely result of Leuchters lack of knowledge with ZyklonB characteristics.

          As for the claim of the canopy being camouflage, I honestly wouldn’t argue such. I would say it’s just something which resulted from the chambers original plan and that it was altered from such. The bunker was moved from the center of the canopy to the end of B&D 2 and it no longer was to have the large heater that was planned to be installed. I guess one could logically argue it was used for such but I would say this argument would really only be an observation.

          I never said to ignore heart, I only said they were not a great resource for good reasons. You claim that you quoted them in good faith but I would argue this as complete bullshit.

          I haven’t argued that people couldn’t see into this site though, you could be a bit more honest about how much they could actually see into Majdanek.

          Some people would get a better view but this honestly shows us what a good portion of the city would see.

          It seems though you have stemmed into denial again saying now that the site (Krepiecki Forest.) doesn’t even exist! It’s been photographed plenty of times, so I don’t plan to argue about this.

          Perhaps if your actually read the source I recommended (Ushmm) you would find this.

          “Conditions in the camp during the bitterly cold winter of 1941-1942 were lethal; the SS routinely shot prisoners too weak to work either on the edge of the camp grounds or in the Krepiecki Forest north of Lublin.”

          https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005190

          If you look to the north under google maps then you will find it. On a rough time estimate it would be about 12 km from Majdanek in the direction of Chelm. As for “30,000” victims this most likely a result of inflated numbers in the past, but of course with you this automatically makes the event as a whole a lie, which in itself is a lie. That is based off your own logic then the Holodomor never happened. That is only leaving aside the fact it’s a 1970’s estimate.

          Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 8:37 pm

          • * moved to the end of B&D 1

            Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 8:41 pm

          • DH – I’m not surprised that revisionist scholars sometimes disagree with each other, because they have been left with the mess, muddle, fakeries, fabrications and concoctions that the holocaust manufacturers have woven together from even before WW2 was over !

            Revisionists are obliged to do the best they can with the available information to sift the truth out from all the dross, and this is an ongoing project in which incorrect or incomplete conclusions are often drawn.

            But the holocausters themselves have no excuse at all for not being able to present an agreed, coherent narrative for what happened. They have had nearly 75 years to get their story straight, and have been able to deploy enormous amounts of resources and finance from both national government and non-government sources. They have had – or should have had – access to all the documents, testimonies and archive material. They should also, by now, have carried out physical tests in order to prove that the three alleged gassing methods actually worked – and were a viable method of mass killing. In addition, each and every one of the massacre sites should have been properly forensically investigated to ascertain if there are human remains lying at these sites. If there are – then they should be clearly demarcated as mass graves – like the ones we see in Bergen-Belsen today, which everyone agrees are genuine. The evidence there for mass graves is proven beyond doubt, and thus there is no controversy about the existence of human remains.

            The holocausters have always arrogantly maintained that they alone sit at the fountain-head of truth, and anyone who disagrees with holy writ has been shrieked at, and condemned as a heretic. In many countries, even questioning aspects of this dogma can land one in deep trouble with severe personal and legal ramifications. Therefore, it is absolutely outrageous and intolerable that the holocaust proponents cannot present an agreed narrative, or produce sufficient verifiable evidence to prove the holocaust actually happened in the way they claim.

            Your explanation about “canopies for camouflage” is quite lame – and just sound like empty waffle to me.

            Your photo is pretty meaningless too. We don’t know if its a Soviet fake, or when it was taken, or even if its shot in Lublin. And even if was – all we are seeing is billowing black smoke appearing on the horizon. Would the Nazis have burnt thousands of bodies on open pyres at the edge of a city and allow all the incriminating smoke and ash to drift over the urban area?

            The exact site of the killings and burnings in the Krepiecki Forest remains elusive. Therefore, it is incumbent upon you holocausters to give us the precise location where these alleged events took place. If you can’t do that – then we are perfectly entitled to dismiss your assertions. The USHMM says the Krepiecki Forest is north of Lublin, whereas you say it is south-east in the direction of Chelm. Which rather proves my earlier point that you holocausters are rather hopeless.

            I’ve never spoken about the Holodomor, because I don’t really know enough about the subject to make any useful comments.
            All I do know, is that the Bolsheviks were running rampant around the Ukraine in the 1920’s and 30’s, with plenty of blood-thirsty and savage Jews joyfully filling the ranks of Stalin’s militias.

            Comment by Talbot — October 17, 2016 @ 6:11 am

            • “sometimes disagree” Is an understatement. Those were only a few examples and the examples are more drastic then a small disagreement issue over heart being a reliable source. HC has described them as unreliable, and I would highly recommend you read their blogs on the issue.

              Revisionist on the other hand don’t have evidence all the time an rely completely on cheap speculation, like your idiotic claim that Belzec was a “gravel pit”. Just like Jims borderline retarded claim that Teeth don’t smash very well, despite a simple google search debunking it (something click pointed out to him in the past). It’s not research if one a spew out anything without a source, but sometimes one has to speculate but this at least has be within the bounds of reality, something which doesn’t work out for a transit camp, which isn’t supposed to hold onto a prisoner population for extended periods of time.

              Mind that disagreement exists in all fields of history, but there doesn’t have to be one select idea behind it. The claims you produce are something regard-able as a joke.

              I bring up the Holodomor though because by the same retarded logic one can claim that event never happened, or that the witch burnings which some estimates have reached “nine million women” being burned to death. But this number is highly exaggerated.

              https://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/~rjg/witches.shtml

              Estimates get as low as 35,000 but this still doesn’t mean the event never happened. My point is your own failure of logistical thinking.

              Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 6:35 am

              • You wrote: “Those were only a few examples and the examples are more drastic then a small disagreement issue over heart being a reliable source. HC has described them as unreliable, and I would highly recommend you read their blogs on the issue.”

                H.E.A.R.T is the name of a website. Is that what you are talking about? HC could be a reference to Holocaust Controversies, but it could be some other blog or website.

                You wrote: “I highly recommend that you read their blogs on the issue.”

                You are commenting on a blog, but neither H.E.A.T. nor Holocaust Controversies are blogs. A blog is a web log where the owner of the blog writes something every day, or almost every day.

                It is too early in the morning to try to deal with you. I am going to have a cup of coffee and try not to be upset by you.

                Comment by furtherglory — October 17, 2016 @ 7:13 am

                • HC is holocaust controversies.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 7:16 am

                • Also HC is a BLOG that’s why it’s on BLOGGER. Nick Terry a member of HC has stated that it is a BLOG.

                  “ARC and THHP were websites, HC is a blog. Lots of obvious differences.”

                  http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=531501#p531501

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 7:23 am

                • DH And Holohuxsters…..
                  When you finally get the story straight please get back to us and let us know how this all went down as of now we have 10 different explanations and for us to even come to any agreeable comment on it is hard to do. In regards to your skeptic site blogs or all these other ones that’s all they are is full of psychopaths that really have a hate for the Germans and will do anything within their power to present information based on no facts to prove their case. And then you have the nerve to come here and present your no facts and theories and think that would just going to roll over and let you have your say without criticizing you is not going to happen. Any person that would believe in the HoloHoax has to be a mental sick person especially seeing the damage it has done to the people involved while the people that tell the story walk away happy and wealthy. When you start lying about an event you have to use other lies to cover up those lies and this is where the problem is.
                  The good thing is we revisionist have caught you in your lies while everyone else is just sleeping and let ting you say what you have to say.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 7:46 am

                • Lol Jim, you cannot even get the story straight.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 7:48 am

                • You’re right about that fairy tales are hard to get straight especially if you’re passing them off the truth.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 8:05 am

                • It’s only a fairy tale if you believe a ball mill couldn’t crush bones. Just as always you live in your own fantasy world.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 8:09 am

                • Just to let you know from my investigative reading it wasn’t a ball mill now its sticks and hammers that’s even better of a fairy tale don’t you think.

                  1.5 million people smashed to ashes with sticks and Hammers and you can quote me on that one.
                  Funny I never heard anyone speak of a long line of people which would have had to been hundreds and hundreds in line or in a big group with hammers and sticks crushing bones to make ashes out of them so they can bury them you talk about ridiculous.
                  I mean really now you actually believe that nonsense.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 8:21 am

                • You don’t read Jim, so stop lying to everyone that you have read these books. IH has already established that it was a ball mill.

                  http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2013/volume_5/number_3/the_bone_mill_of_lemberg.php

                  Human teeth are also venerable to hot temperatures.

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3009553/

                  Around 1100*f the teeth turn to ash, and the average camp fire is 1,571 degrees Fahrenheit.

                  https://www.reference.com/sports-active-lifestyle/average-temperature-campfire-4833ec972e24a220

                  So your argument is borderline absurd. Anything left over would be smashed on the metal sheets. The point that Click raised with that video was they your argument was absurd, especially when the tooth turned to a fine white dust.

                  Welcome to the world of reality Jim.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 8:33 am

                • Ball Mill:

                  Definition:

                  “a pulverizing machine consisting of a rotating drum which contains pebbles or metal balls as the grinding implements”

                  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ball%20mill

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 9:08 am

                • About the Bone Crusher according to Hilberg who calls from Hoess and Arad who quotes from who knows who they didn’t do it that way with the bone mill crusher, they said they used sticks and hammers but I’m sure somewhere in the Holohoax literature they throw that device in because they know how ridiculous it is with sticks and hammers are you really that stupid that you can’t understand the impossibility of doing something like that how nonsensical it is.
                  Sticks and hammers crushing 1.5 million bodies.
                  They would probably still be doing it today LOL.
                  I hate to say it but you were really off-the-wall and stupidity. And I don’t call people stupid that often.
                  I put that right up with killing a million people with insect repellent.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 10:03 am

                • Probably cause witnesses were describing the machines use and were not engineers. They probably didn’t know the inter-mechanisms. The Ball mill operated as a machine for crushing bones, so we can just conclude this is the reason why.

                  As for sticks and hammers… They had a sheet of metal that the remains were placed on and the bones were smashed… Though Sticks is a dishonest argument.

                  Denier Buds video shows quite clearly bones would break easily though he still has some meat left over due to him using poor methods to cremate the piece of meat. I know this is where you are getting the reference from but clearly you are arguing from old sources.

                  At Dresden they were able to cremate 6,865 of 25,000 corpses. In a short period of time. The grills at Dresden held onto 400 to 500 corpses as well. I am not sure how long this cremation period lasted but TB-47 (the reference I am using) was written on March 22, 1945 which is still a total of 200 corpses a day, though this seems unlikely they would be cremating corpses to this period of time.

                  Hate to say what I have said plenty of times Jim. You don’t know what you are talking about.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 10:53 am

                • You have an excuse for all the Knuckleheads that gave stupid testimonies but for you to think that you can use Hammers and sticks to break a bones to ash you have to be out of your mind I was wondering did they use the hammer and sticks and Dresden.
                  I honestly think the reason why you are on this list and posting like you do is to say the stupidest things that can be said to get a reaction from us but it does get to a point in time when stupid is as stupid does and I’m getting very tired of your nonsense and stupidity.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 17, 2016 @ 12:24 pm

                • Say they used sticks again is dishonest… I also pointed out quite clearly that Denier bud faced no issue when it came to smashing the bones.

                  They didn’t use the hammers at Dresden though, as this is beside my point. You obviously are using Denierbuds one third of the holocaust as a source.

                  As for me saying the stupidest things I have provided a study and a video which clearly show your point to be absurd. Again your logic is retarded.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 12:28 pm

                • Here Jim, If different explanations mean issues then what about your claim about the “cement mixer”. Mattogno calls it a ball mill.

                  Such great work for such a well rounded researcher like yourself.😄

                  I have only expressed doubts about a websites claim which is part of something known as critical thinking. It honestly just seems to be an observation.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 8:00 am

                • You wrote: Also HC is a BLOG that’s why it’s on BLOGGER.”

                  BLOGGER is a place that hosts blogs. You can create a blog on BLOGGER and have it hosted there. However, a blog, by definition, is where the owner of the blog puts up a new blog post every day, or almost every day, as I do.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 17, 2016 @ 8:33 am

                • Yeah, which again as I have said HC is a BLOG.

                  Though you don’t have to post every day. A blog is simply a a regularly updated website or web page.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 8:36 am

                • You wrote: “Though you don’t have to post every day. A blog is simply a a regularly updated website or web page.”

                  Sorry, but I beg to differ. I first learned about the meaning of the word BLOG, when a person contacted me, many years ago, for my help with a book that he was writing. He was gathering information for his book by writing a BLOG, where he reported on the progress of his book every day.

                  I soon learned that the word BLOG is short for WebLog, and that a weblog is a website that changes daily, or almost daily.

                  As it turned out, he abandoned his book project when I told him that what he was writing was factually wrong. He took down his BLOG and that is the last that I ever heard from him. Of course, a website can also be taken down; that is why a BLOG or a website must be hosted by a company that you can trust.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 17, 2016 @ 8:50 am

                • The dictionary definition is as follows.

                  “a regularly updated website or web page, typically one run by an individual or small group, that is written in an informal or conversational style.”

                  I wouldn’t say HC is informal of or conversational. But it’s still a blog.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 9:03 am

                • You wrote: “The dictionary definition [of a blog] is as follows.

                  “a regularly updated website or web page,”

                  When was the last time that Holocaust Controversies” was updated? Was it a hundred years ago, or was it a million years ago?

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 17, 2016 @ 9:22 am

                • A few days ago…

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 10:23 am

                • You wrote: “A few days ago…”

                  That’s OK. You don’t need to quote what you are responding to. I have nothing else to do, so I don’t mind looking it up. I did look it up, and as far as I can tell, someone wrote a comment. No one wrote a new blog post.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 17, 2016 @ 10:39 am

                • Well to be exact… Yesterday on October 16 th… And before that on the 11th and before that on the 9th.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 10:56 am

                • I don’t know what in the hell you are talking about. I went to the Holocaust Controversies website, or blog, and I can’t make heads nor tails out of it. I don’t want to waste any more of my time arguing about whether a website is a blog or something else.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 17, 2016 @ 12:19 pm

                • No offense FG, but your pills don’t seem to be working… I honestly don’t mean to offend you here. We were talking about blog posts, again a simple idea.

                  They post a new blogpost on October 16th. The one before that was on October 11th and before that on the 9th. I would argue this is rather consistent.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 12:24 pm

              • I never claimed Belzec was a “gravel pit”. I’ve always maintained it was a work camp for local Jews in 1940/41, then a transit camp for mainly Polish Jews during the second half of 1942 ( and possibly continuing into early 1943 )

                Where you got the “gravel pit” idea from, was probably my contempt at the Polish and Belzec authorities today, who have smothered the entire site in builder’s rubble and assorted rocks. To me, that is not just mindless or asinine behaviour – because if there are human remains that lie buried on the site, then what they have done is criminally irresponsible.

                And there are two reasons for that;-

                1) human remains should be treated with respect, and the graves in which they lie clearly demarcated so that future visitors, distant relatives etc. can pay their respects to the dead at the exact location where they are interred.

                2) It is no longer possible for any future archaeological work or ground survey to take place, because the enormous task of clearing all this crap away will destroy, or at least greatly disturb, the evidence that lies beneath.

                Comment by Talbot — October 17, 2016 @ 8:16 am

                • Bullshit Tal, you clearly implied such in response to the bone fragments. After I pointed this out you practically shut up on the subject.

                  1) irrelevant to the event happening. I don’t see the bodies of the Armenian genocide being dug up on mass for reburial or the mass graves of Cambodia.

                  2) the surveys have already been done in the modern age.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 8:22 am

                • You are talking nonsense – I did not imply that Belzec was a gravel pit. You jumped to that conclusion because you are so impulsive, that you misread what people are saying, and don’t take time to collect your thoughts before hammering out a reply on your keyboard.

                  The bodies of the Armenian genocide have got nothing to do with Belzec and the Rheinhardt camps. But that’s typical tactics by the holocausters – they change the subject at will, jump around the world to other events that may – or more likely – may not have any relevance to the “holocaust”.

                  The surveys and archaeological work that has been done at Belzec are not good enough to be accepted by an impartial world. All the work has been undertaken by the Poles themselves. And it must be the understatement of the 21st century to claim that they are unbiased or impartial !

                  Comment by Talbot — October 17, 2016 @ 8:55 am

                • Here maybe you don’t understand the reference, but never mind.

                  1) Just so post the point again, you have argued that the site has be to taken care of, which again is not true. Mass graves are commonly not dug up at all.

                  2) No, digging is still possible just as it was at treblinka in the 1960’s.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 1:41 pm

                • Have the Jews ever mentioned digging up these graves,and burying them in a more suitable location. You know like the Cathlocs would want to be buried in consecrated grounds. Wouldn’t the Hebs want something like that?

                  I mean these locations supposedly have so much heartbreak in their history,I figure they’d want a more peaceful location. I know I would.

                  Comment by Tim — October 18, 2016 @ 3:58 pm

                • The Jews to my knowledge never dug the graves themselves.

                  Most grave diggers to my knowledge are poles and possibly other Eastern Europeans.

                  http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/99982/the-treblinka-gold-rush

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 4:02 pm

            • Talbot:
              “DH – I’m not surprised that revisionist scholars”

              Revisionist scholars??
              😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

              “I’ve never spoken about the Holodomor, because I don’t really know enough about the subject to make any useful comments.
              All I do know, is that the Bolsheviks were running rampant around the Ukraine in the 1920’s and 30’s, with plenty of blood-thirsty and savage Jews joyfully filling the ranks of Stalin’s militias.”

              That sounds like you know what you are talking about.
              What “militias” are you referring to? What percentage were Jews?
              5%?
              1%
              10%?

              Do you have any data to back up that statement?

              Still waiting for you over at Skeptics, Talbot.

              Comment by Jeff K. — October 18, 2016 @ 11:58 am

              • Yes, I’m happy to repeat – Revisionist scholars.

                Militias, refers to the various formations of police, secret police, NKVD and other military outfits controlled by the Soviet authorities.

                What the percentage of Jews who joined up in these forces was – I’ve no idea; but the Nobel Prize Winner Alexander Solzenhistyn did say publicly that if it hadn’t been for the strong Jewish input into the Communist system, then the “Red Terror” would never have reached the awful levels that it did.

                I will only join the Skeptics Forum if I have the time and inclination to do so. But I certainly wont even consider such a move until Jim and Joe Rizoli, plus Diane King are unbanned – thank you very much.

                Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 12:41 pm

                • “Yes, I’m happy to repeat – Revisionist scholars.”

                  Oh. I thought you were making a joke, considering these “scholars” have no proof of what actually happened to the Jews they say were resettled.

                  “Militias, refers to the various formations of police, secret police, NKVD and other military outfits controlled by the Soviet authorities.”

                  Thank you for clearing that up.

                  “What the percentage of Jews who joined up in these forces was – I’ve no idea; but the Nobel Prize Winner Alexander Solzenhistyn did say publicly that if it hadn’t been for the strong Jewish input into the Communist system, then the “Red Terror” would never have reached the awful levels that it did.”

                  That’s nice.
                  What sort of proof did he offer? Did he release documentation supporting this claim? Provide corroborating data to support this? Or was he guessing?

                  “I will only join the Skeptics Forum if I have the time and inclination to do so. But I certainly wont even consider such a move until Jim and Joe Rizoli, plus Diane King are unbanned – thank you very much.”

                  You’re welcome very much. I guess it is too much to encourage you to step outside of your comfort zone. As for the Rizolis and Diane King, they drag the IQ level down on anything they touch. Naturally I say this with all due respect, but, seriously. How hard is it to follow a few simple rules?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — October 18, 2016 @ 12:49 pm

        • *moved to the end of B&D 1

          Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 8:42 pm

          • DH….. I guess none of these things really matter to you.
            You really have to be out of your mind I believe this stuff.

            http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fantastic-Holocaust-Survivor-Stories-Jewish-Soap-Lampshades-Fertilizer-Mengele-Miracles.php

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 8:46 pm

            • 😄 I never said they don’t matter, I am arguing that you don’t care about the truth.

              Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 8:47 pm

            • I also never said I believed in the story behind the lampshade or other propaganda.

              Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 8:47 pm

              • DH…. you do know that thousands of innocent Germans went to their deaths because of the false claims of the Lampshades, soap,shrunken heads. So if all that is wrong I don’t know how you can even show your face to believe in the HoloHoax knowing that innocent people have died over the lies that have come down the pike on this one, but you just brush it off like nothing happened no problem and you don’t even look seem to care. You must have no heart or care about people and their lives and how their lives have been ruined either buy them being killed or their families not having husbands and children having fathers all over lies that the Holohuxsters like yourself have been promoting all these years you really should be ashamed of yourself to be even in bed with these despicable evil cruel people.
                Lies have been responsible for thousands of deaths and that’s not a problem with you.

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 9:07 pm

                • Oh, really Jim? Can you provide any sources for your claim that thousands of people were convicted for making human soap and were provided the death penalty?

                  You know and I know this claim is bullshit.

                  This aside its minor details which again never proved the holocaust in the first place.

                  The rest of your rant is baseless.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 9:18 pm

                • Why do you think these people were killed what reason would you give. Read the Nuremberg trials transcripts you might learn something.
                  Apparently you haven’t read them have you.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 9:22 pm

                • The reason assigned. It’s not going to always be a “human soap charge”. Hell the charge of a human lamp shade was used against Koch, but as Clay stated “no convincing evidence” existed and it ended in a reduction of her sentence.

                  http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,859084,00.html#ixzz1JwxlL7xG

                  Charges of the lampshade were dropped at her 2nd trial.

                  https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=0IElAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3fQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4254%2C5369899

                  Some people were also sent to death for mass murder as well other charges. It’s not simply just the 3 things you listed.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 9:36 pm

                • DH…. does this information that came from the IMT trials show the Germans as being murderers what do you think.

                  Carlos Porters War Crime Trials book
                  p.20-23

                  WHAT SAUCKEL ACTUALLY SAID 

                  Treatment of people by Germans

                  p.20

                   
                  “…1. Where voluntary recruitment fails (and experience shows that it is failing everywhere), compulsory service takes its place. That is now the Iron Law of the year 1943 in the labour service: in a few weeks, there should be no occupied territory in which compulsory service for Germany is not the most natural thing in the world. We will slough off the last dregs of our humanitarian daydreaming. Every additional cannon which we manufacture brings us one minute closer to victory! It is bitter to tear people away from their homes, from their children. But we didn’t want the war! The German child who loses his father at the front, the German woman who bewails her fallen husband, suffers much more deeply. Let us renounce all false sentimentality here. . Even though I wish to come to terms with the severity of the war, I nevertheless request that under no circumstances may the German nation, the name of the Führer, my own name, or even your names, be exposed to shame. What we must do, will be done. But it will be done so that, with all severity – and I will punish pitilessly where necessary – account is taken of the principles of German correctness. 

                  We are not a perverse, bestially-inclined nation whose highest joy is to torment prisoners. With us, everything is done according to regulations, but with chivalry. This chivalry has been proven a thousand times by German soldiers. We are also guided by the recognition here that, in the long run, efficiency in production can only be demanded from foreign workers if they are satisfied with their lot. I will not tolerate men being mistreated. You must compel people to do their duty, you must cart them away under certain circumstances, but you must not commit a fault, you must not torment and play tricks; rather, I hereby make you personally responsible for ensuring the greatest possible comfort for our foreign labour recruits during their transport and in their accommodation, for the purpose of bringing healthy workers to Germany, people who are able to go to work immediately. As recruitment commissioners in foreign countries, you must under no circumstances whatsoever promise things which are not possible according to the applicable guidelines and regulations, or not practicable due to the war situation. It is much better to go up to persons liable for labour service and tell them ‘You must do this, and, 

                   p.22 

                  in return, you will have the rights of workers working in Germany’. Anyone who works in Germany has a right to life in Germany, even if he is Bolshevik. We will watch strictly to ensure that no shame falls upon the German name in so doing. You may demand every sort of protection from me in your service territory, but not for any crimes. The name of our nation is holy. For the first time in German history, you must represent the principles of German labour for the Reich. Be conscious of this at all times. For your part, you must tell the truth about labour service in Germany at all times. You of the labour service are an advance troop of German National Socialist propaganda in foreign countries. You must learn to represent our German standpoint, the standpoint of our Führer, our people, and the Reich, in foreign countries. I wish to make you responsible, in addition to your official and professional duties, for being propagandists of the National Socialist life and faith. 

                  You must create validity and respect for the true facts. You must also spread the word in foreign countries that anyone who works properly in Germany will enjoy the best protection for his life and health. This promise must make the rounds in the occupied territories. The sick rate in the camps of Soviet workers working in Germany is less than two percent. That is unequalled! The reason for this is that the Soviet workers are cleanly and hygienically housed, and decently nourished. Carry this out, regardless of all lies. You can and must represent the concept in foreign countries that there has never been a labour service like the one in Germany!

                  We must also spread the word, as a further promise, that everyone who works in Germany is helping to bring Europe closer to peace, and to eliminate the misery caused by Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin from the world. All soldiers and all offices must cooperate in keeping this promise. Anyone who works in Germany is protecting his life, and is working to eliminate mass misery from the world. Every recruiter is obliged to take care that the recruited workers bring as much food, clothing, and, possibly, bedding, along with them as possible in any way. All useful things must be packed and brought along. We do not have these things in abundance in Germany at the present time.. In no case may sick people, or people who are unable to work, be taken along to work – or children who are unable to work.

                  The transports must be carefully prepared and cautiously carried out. “The German labour service, I emphasize once again, must be the best life insurance for foreign peoples. This is how our propaganda should work. That which was not yet good enough, should be improved; that which was better, will be made more perfect by us. I demand this of you, not for ourselves, but for the Führer, for his soldiers, and for our beloved German people.” (Defence document Sauckel-82, IMT XLI, 226-228, my translation from German.)

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 9:47 pm

                • Jim think of the author…. Think carefully.

                  This aside I simply just made the argument what people were sent to death based on the charges applied to them… Not sure how this is hard to understand.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 9:56 pm

                • Quick warning though, the transcript does mean that it’s the judgement.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 9:36 pm

        • I’m still having difficulty locating the site within the Krepiecki Forest where the alleged up to 30,000 human remains lie buried. The forest itself can be clearly seen on Google Earth lying some 10 to 12 kilometres to the south-east of Majdanek – but as for the actual burial site itself, well, who knows….

          I did go to the “Holocaust Controversies” website, and it just says the following – which is very meagre to say the least;-

          ” bodies were unearthed at Krepiecki, 12km from Majdanek: the Polish-Soviet Commission, in its search of the camp grounds and Krepiecki Forest, discovered 467 bodies and 266 skulls, which were subjected to forensic analysis. The Commission also discovered 4.5m3 of ashes and bones.

          “Krepiecki is clearly the same site that W.H. Lawrence described visiting: “I have been to Krempitski, ten miles to the east, where I saw three of ten opened mass graves and looked upon 368 partly decomposed bodies of men, women and children who had been executed individually in a variety of cruel and horrible means. In this forest alone, the authorities estimate, there are more than 300,000 bodies…”

          “…Jews were being mass murdered in these areas and some of the resultant bodies were observed by American journalists as well as by Polish and Soviet investigators.”

          ” Moreover, note that these numbers were reported with caution by Lawrence: It is impossible for this correspondent to state with any certainty how many persons the Germans killed here. Many bodies unquestionably were burned and not nearly all the graves in this vicinity had been opened by the time I visited the scene.”
          …….

          If we are reading HC correctly, then these bodies and skulls were found within the camp itself as well as in the forest. It claims they were subject to forensic analysis – so obviously there must by a forensic report which clearly states how many bodies, skulls and ashes were actually discovered in the Krepiecki Forest, as opposed to the camp itself; and also the precise location of where they were found. So the question remains – does a report exist, and has it been published?

          This W.H Lawrence would seem to be an American journalist sent to Majdanek at the invitation of the Soviets soon after its liberation. But we must remember that it was still wartime, and thus Mr Lawrence would not be an independent, or impartial journalist – but purely a propaganda agent working for the war effort on behalf of the US government and media. In addition, the Soviets themselves were the bitter enemy of the Germans and consequently showed Lawrence what they wanted him to see – he was not free to carry out investigations, or ask probing questions himself. So, can we really rely today on his news report which was prepared and broadcast in wartime conditions?

          Lawrence claims that he saw three opened mass graves, and seven others that had yet to be unearthed. If this is true, then we want to know exactly where these alleged graves are located – and what happened to the human remains themselves. Were they re-buried in the same graves, or were taken elsewhere for internment?

          But I suppose the unreality of the Krepiecki Forest legend can be summed-up by the ludicrous claim of an estimated 300,000 bodies being killed. buried or cremated there. Obviously, the Poles later realised that this was absurdly high, and decided to knock a zero off the end of the number to make it seem more plausible. But even 30,000 is still firmly in the realm of make-believe.

          Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 7:37 am

          • You wrote: “’m still having difficulty locating the site within the Krepiecki Forest where the alleged up to 30,000 human remains lie buried.”

            I wrote about this on this blog post:

            https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/05/04/what-is-the-truth-about-the-infamous-aktion-erntefest-at-majdanek/

            Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 8:12 am

          • In the direction of Chelm. I believe I pointed this out.

            I think the polish spelling is Krepiec.

            Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 9:42 am

          • Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 9:45 am

            • Thanks for the map of more HorrorDisneyland camps….what nice funeral song do they have playing as you enter the camps.
              Showing a skeleton or two would be good for a starter………and of course all those bodies piled up I’m sure will be a big hit. Of course they don’t mention that these skeleton bodies were victims of Typhus or some other disease. Yup, plenty of things to show to get the visitors crying their eyeballs out.
              Nothing better than some horror to make your day EH…They no doubt have accomplished what they wanted to do, sell horror, forget truth, and make a lot of money….that’s how the Jews work. If the Jews in the camp then knew what was going to be shown later in the media I’m sure they would of capsulized on it even better.
              They might want to throw in some fireworks at the end laced with Jewish ashes so it would fall down upon the people watching I’m sure that would be a nice touch.
              Mission accomplished…..Horror Disneyland rocks!

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 9:57 am

              • 😄 Jim you are retarded.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:00 am

              • They should also show the episode of the Twilight Zone,where the pror nazi guard visited the old prison he worked at. He was haunted to death by the ghosts of all the Jews that died there.

                Comment by Tim — October 18, 2016 @ 12:03 pm

            • I zoomed in on Google Earth and searched the area that the second map outlines in red, but I can’t see any mass graves or memorial to the victims who are alleged to have been killed and cremated there.

              The imagery around that area of forest shows very little except trees. There is a very small forest clearing where a couple of blue icons show photos – one of which shows nothing but forest, and the other depicts some old ruined concrete debris and piping: what these are supposed to represent I have no idea – they could be the remains of either pre-WW2 or post-war structures for all we know.

              This is not good enough at all. The holocaust proponents solemnly tell us the remains of up to 30,000 human beings lie buried in the Krepiecki Forest. Not only do want to establish the precise location of the ten mass graves that were alleged to have been found there – but the full forensic report of what was discovered. In addition, the absence of a memorial to the victims – plus a defined perimeter fence, hedge or wall to this forest clearing is very telling indeed!

              Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 10:12 am

              • Tal you honestly didn’t expect to find open graves did you? If so that has to be one of the dumbest dismissal I have heard from you yet. Maybe you should Learn that the site is covered by trees.

                Also the 30,000 number is from 1970… It’s not a modern number to be honest that not even the museum stands by this number.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:20 am

              • Also just to butt in really quickly, I honestly don’t know each graves position. But just to simplify it, the possible locations are areas which are missing large amounts of vegetation. As Caroline said for Treblinka:

                “Caroline Sturdy Colls: The effect of burying something in the ground can either boost plant growth or it can limit it, and we’re seeing a lot on this particular site that there are areas where very little grows at all, and the kind of plants that do grow don’t have any roots, they just sit on the surface, so we can tell straight away just by looking that there’s going to be something buried under that, it’s a fact, the actual vegetation …”

                http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/01/thomas-kues-on-recent-archaeological.html?m=1

                I have checked my copy of the communique, and didn’t find any direct descriptions of the graves locations.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:41 am

                • We now have the profound words of the tearful, forensic archaeological expert – Caroline Sturdy Colls, to entertain us with her words of wisdom;-

                  ” The effect of burying something in the ground can either boost plant growth or it can limit it, and we’re seeing a lot on this particular site that there are areas where very little grows at all, and the kind of plants that do grow don’t have any roots, they just sit on the surface, so we can tell straight away just by looking that there’s going to be something buried under that…”

                  So, not only has Caroline has assured us that plants can grow without any roots; but regardless of whether there are plants growing on an area of ground or not, it is a clear indication that something is going to be buried beneath the surface.

                  This inspired sort of gobbledegook will certainly greatly enhance Caroline’s career in holocaustianity – they truly luv people like this joining their ranks.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 11:18 am

                • Caroline Colls is a Horticulturalist now?

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 11:20 am

                • Again rather off topic, I only was quoting her to try and explain where the graves might have been.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 11:46 am

              • This comes under Hmmm……we have a story to tell with no facts, are you stupid enough to believe.
                But YOU all have to believe it. This is usually how it goes down with the Holohuxsters…..They assume, they believe, they feel, seems reasonable, we can assume, these are all the lines they give….but you will NEVER SEE THEM SAY WE CAN PROVE 100%
                All conjecture and what if’s, then when you take them to task they behave like DH and he/she/LBGT, swears at you.

                Great!

                JR

                Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 11:01 am

                • Jim… Again you are a fucking RETARD… You just suck to that childish nature and your Grover Furr style of history.

                  If you always stick with your physical evidence mentality then you will never understand history. By the same argument I could demand the musket of every one of Napoleons soldiers to prove that he marched (lets say) 150,000 troops into Russia. You will never see every last musket marched into Russia.

                  This aside the soviets took photographs of these graves so it seems logical to assume that shootings and cremation were taking place in this forest especially the cremation of corpses considering the Opus report of July 13, 1943 says that was where the gassed victims were taken for cremation.

                  ” They are poisoned with carbon monoxide every 10 minutes. Corpses are taken to the forest and burnt…”
                  (OPUS report, July 13, 1943, Kazimierz Kobuz)

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 12:15 pm

                • Hey man,don’t run mentally challenged people down (retards) . My brother is one.

                  Comment by Tim — October 18, 2016 @ 10:07 pm

                • Tim your right, calling Jim a Retard is an insult to everyone who is actually retarded.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 19, 2016 @ 12:14 pm

                • You wrote: “Tim your right,”

                  When you are insulting someone by saying that the person is “actually retarded” you should write “You are right” or “You’re right.”

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 19, 2016 @ 12:19 pm

                • Semantics again…

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 19, 2016 @ 12:20 pm

                • I looked up the meaning of the word “semantics”. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/semantics

                  In my day, we did not have “semantics” so I don’t know what you are talking about. Why can’t you just admit that you are wrong?

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 19, 2016 @ 12:34 pm

                • Actually by using the word,”semantics”,it’s a “get outta jail free” card. At the same time,it’s a personal attack on Jimbo,because he holds an opposing view. To be honest,I look at both sides here,and sometimes it seems like,”conjecture” is the order of the day.

                  I say everyone save up the insults for tonight’s debate. Like Simon and garfunkle sang.”going to the candidates debate. Laugh about,shout about it,but when you’ve got to choose,every way you look at it,you lose”.

                  Comment by Tim — October 19, 2016 @ 1:02 pm

                • There’s the best example. Told you. FG is a journalist. She’ll correct you’re ass in a heartbeat. There is no semantics involved here. This has absolutely nothing to do with that. You were cross with Jimbo,so you wanted to hurl some good ones at him.

                  You couldn’t say “f–kin fool”. It had to be retard? You wouldn’t get the mileage out of ,”fool”,that you could get out of “retard”. Retard will leave a more lasting mental picture ,when juxtaposed with fool.

                  Just admit it was a personal attack,because you don’t like his views . That don’t give you the right to launch a verbal assault,much less drag people into something,because of the way they are. Proverbial,”bottom line”, there’s no need to insult those who have no control over how they are. You could quite easily be involved in accident,that will scramble. I hope you never are,but if you are,it’s gonna put you on a limited capacity

                  Comment by Tim — October 19, 2016 @ 12:49 pm

                • Not shocked.

                  Though semantics is sort of involved. This would arise from an argument over the wording that I used were to arise.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 19, 2016 @ 1:44 pm

                • I didn’t deny it was an insult Tim, the bottom line still stand that Jim is an idiot which has been shown by his inability to fact check and denial of tests which show his ideas to be false. Just look at the link I provided to dental tests of placing a tooth under temperatures of 1100*F.

                  Though thanks for your concern about my well being.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 19, 2016 @ 7:13 pm

                • DH…. sorry to say you are a nutcase beyond nutcases the things you make cases out arr just plain stupid. When you think about the big picture you make issues out of the littlest things like Teeth who gives a crap about the teeth but we do know there were plenty of teeth that were not found by your Holohuckster buddies,…I guess they must have beat them down to dust with sticks and hammers. I’m sure that would have been a sight to see 1.5 million people times 30 teeth per person all pounded down to dust with hammers and sticks yeah that sounds reasonable.
                  Where are all the 40 million teeth. Oh I know they didn’t have any.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 19, 2016 @ 8:36 pm

                • Or maybe you should have read the study I provided. Jim it has pictures, the one thing you buy books to look at (cause you obviously don’t read them).

                  The teeth were practically completely cremated into ash every single time. It’s something you cannot avoid and exactly why I insult you for being a idiot. I will take Tims advice and back off from calling you retarded cause he had a point that it wasn’t an appropriate insult to be directed at someone of your status.

                  How about read the essay that I have provided.

                  “The study was conducted on 72 extracted teeth which were divided into six goups of 12 teeth each based on the type of restorative material. (Group 1 – unrestored teeth, group 2 – teeth restored with Zn3(PO4)2, group 3 – with silver amalgam, group 4 with glass ionomer cement, group 5 – Ni-Cr-metal crown, group 6 – metal ceramic crown) and two specimens of the mandible. The effect of incineration at 400°C (5 mins, 15 mins, 30 mins) and 1100°C (15 mins) was studied.

                  Result:

                  Damage to the teeth subjected to variable temperatures and time can be categorized as intact (no damage), scorched (superficially parched and discolored), charred (reduced to carbon by incomplete combustion) and incinerated (burned to ashes).”

                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3009553/

                  Now how about you stop acting like an idiot and read the study.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 19, 2016 @ 8:49 pm

                • And you point is…..

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 19, 2016 @ 8:50 pm

                • The point is the teeth would break down in the heat from the wood… Jim it doesn’t take a highschool diploma to work this out.

                  If the teeth started turning to ash at the temperature of 1100 then the wood under the grills burning at probably the same temperature of a camp fire (1,500 degrees F) would have no problem breaking the teeth down. The bones which survived would be easily breakable as even Denier Buds video demonstrated.

                  This is exactly why you are an idiot and why I trust scholars more. It’s cause flooring obviously hasn’t taught you anything.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 19, 2016 @ 8:56 pm

                • “Tim your right, calling Jim a Retard is an insult to everyone who is actually retarded.”

                  So true.

                  😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

                  Comment by Jeff K. — October 19, 2016 @ 12:56 pm

                • *You just stuck to that childish nature and your Grover Furr style of history.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 12:16 pm

              • Since Google is a liberal run outfit,if there were mass graves,wouldn’t it make sense they would show them. I mean Google don’t wanna go against the masses. So they would go along with them to remain popular .

                Comment by Tim — October 18, 2016 @ 11:59 am

            • The first map you submitted of Majdanek is highly suspect – because the cartographer has greatly expanded the perimeter of the camp to included the main city cemetery of Lublin! He has also included other areas which were never part of the Majdanek labour and concentration camp, and thus has produced a very odd-shaped “unmilitary-style” area which would be difficult to secure and patrol.

              Majdanek did have a double perimeter fence around it – but I don’t think either of them were electrified with high-voltage current.

              Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 10:43 am

              • Tal you again show ignorance to Majdanek. The first map doesn’t show Majdanek in the city center… It shows it along the border of the city, as all maps show.

                All the prisoner were locked in with something like 3 fences… Most as well were held inside the fields.

                This is completely irrelevant though to anything. Stay on topic.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 10:49 am

                • I never claimed that Majdanek was in the city center.

                  Oh dear – you do have a tendency to put words in my mouth that I never said.

                  I was just questioning the accuracy of the map that you produced – because there is the problem of the vast city cemetery that lies adjacent to the former SS camp.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 11:45 am

                • Lol by city center it means it doesn’t extend into Lublin of the day. The size of the camp has shrunk over time, as I have said. The camp didn’t extend into the city center.

                  You said it expands into the cemetery, which is something more modern.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 11:51 am

                • You might well be right there, DH, the cemetery could be entirely a post-war development – built on ground that was part of the original camp. The wartime aerial photographs shows the area where the cemetery is today as vacant land – but I can’t be completely sure of that, because the resolution of the photo imagery is not 100% clear.

                  If there was no cemetery, then yes – the camp perimeter to the south-east in the direction of Chelm, could have extended as the map suggests.

                  But I still question the camp perimeter on the city side of Majdanek, because the aerial photos do show existing civilian housing on the brown area where it is alleged the camp extended to.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 1:38 pm

                • “You might well be right there, DH, the cemetery could be entirely a post-war development”

                  It’s most definitely post war… No photograph or air photograph of Treblinka shows any cemetery like the one we see in the modern age.

                  “But I still question the camp perimeter on the city side of Majdanek, because the aerial photos do show existing civilian housing on the brown area where it is alleged the camp extended to.”

                  No… It really doesn’t.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 1:43 pm

                • You wrote: It’s most definitely post war… No photograph or air photograph of Treblinka shows any cemetery like the one we see in the modern age.”

                  I wrote about the symbolic cemetery on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Treblinka/Treblinka05.html

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 1:53 pm

                • Well, I messed up and typed Treblinka instead of Majdanek. Thanks for helping me notice this FG.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 1:58 pm

                • I mean Majdanek. Anyway here is a drawing of Majdanek and all the buildings that were inside of it.

                  Jürgen Graf, Carlo Mattogno both agree that this was the boundary of Majdanek.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 2:01 pm

                • Wow! You actually agree with some Revisionist…..maybe there is hope for you.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 2:08 pm

                • Jim…. I agree with Mattogno that the Bone mill was a Ball mill… I disagree with him that it was use innocently. I agree with “revisionists” (deniers) on some points. These points though are generally areas which are not disputed.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 2:11 pm

                • You gave a link to a large map of Majdanek. I have a whole section on my website about Majdanek. This was written BEFORE I became a Holocaust denier.
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Majdanek/Majdanek01.html

                  I was so completely shocked, when I first saw the Majdanek camp, that I became so completely discombubelated that I could not remember how to work my camera. The camp is a few feet from a major highway, where everyone passing by could look into the camp and see the Jews being Holocausted.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 2:15 pm

                • But if the cemetery is a post-war development, then does not this fact alone tend to disprove that Majdanek was ever a “death camp”.

                  Would the good citizens of Lublin have allowed their love ones to rest in peace for eternity on a former site of such horror – with multiple murders, torture, starvation, disease, gas chambers, mass graves, machine-gun pits, crematoria, burning pyres – you name it !

                  No, of course not – the Lublin authorities would have looked elsewhere for the site of their new city cemetery. How could any family feel happy about their late-lamented Uncle Stanislaw lying buried on the grounds of a former Nazi extermination camp.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 2:41 pm

                • “But if the cemetery is a post-war development, then does not this fact alone tend to disprove that Majdanek was ever a “death camp”.”

                  How in the hell did you get this idea? No it doesn’t… It just shows the museum didn’t keep the whole camp together and allowed a cemetery to be built.

                  “Would the good citizens of Lublin have allowed their love ones to rest in peace for eternity on a former site of such horror – with multiple murders, torture, starvation, disease, gas chambers, mass graves, machine-gun pits, crematoria, burning pyres – you name it !”

                  Doesn’t matter this is completely beside the fucking point.

                  “No, of course not – the Lublin authorities would have looked elsewhere for the site of their new city cemetery. How could any family feel happy about their late-lamented Uncle Stanislaw lying buried on the grounds of a former Nazi extermination camp.”

                  One would expect them to view Majdanek as an every day sight… You know why? Cause they live right next to it. The lack of an actual argument produced by you is sad.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 2:45 pm

                • The same would apply to Treblinka or Auschwitz….Looking at it from a HoloHuxster viewpoint what sane person would make a cemetery there after the war?
                  Not that I would have a problem with a cemetery put in a WORK camp, or transit camp, looking at it from the revisionist truth part of it.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 2:49 pm

                • “The same would apply to Treblinka or Auschwitz….”

                  No It wouldn’t Jim cause this idea doesn’t make sense… No modern cemetery exists within the old boundaries of Treblinka. An Execution site exists to the south.

                  Auschwitz is pretty much all together boundary wise except Auschwitz 3. Still the same story as Treblinka.

                  “Looking at it from a HoloHuxster viewpoint what sane person would make a cemetery there after the war?”

                  You don’t even understand the event, how are you going to look at it from an outside perspective?

                  “Not that I would have a problem with a cemetery put in a WORK camp, or transit camp, looking at it from the revisionist truth part of it.”

                  Treblinka doesn’t have a Cemetery in it… Treblinka wasn’t a Transit camp. The Revisionists do not speak the truth, and Cole and Irving only speak half truths.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 3:23 pm

                • You wrote: “Auschwitz is pretty much all together boundary wise except Auschwitz 3. Still the same story as Treblinka.”

                  Auschwitz 3 was better known as Monowitz. I wrote about Monowitz on my website at
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Auschwitz/MonowitzHistory.html

                  This was written before I became a Holocaust denier, so this web page is kosher.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 5:46 pm

                • I am not really interested. Thanks for linking me information FG… But I think I have enough information on Auschwits 3 from Primo Levi and other witnesses.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 5:49 pm

                • You wrote: “I think I have enough information on Auschwits 3 from Primo Levi and other witnesses.”

                  I blogged about Primo Levi at Monowitz on this blog post:

                  https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/primo-levi-the-story-of-ten-days-jan-18th-to-jan-27th-1945/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 5:54 pm

                • You are right Jim, the local Polish citizens of Lublin knew full well that Majdanek was just a hum-drum wartime labour camp, and thus had no qualms about using a section of the former camp as a brand new civilian cemetery after the war. If it was a “death camp”, then you can bet your life – as devout Roman Catholics – they would have avoided the site like the plague !

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 3:59 pm

                • Again no one denies the locals has some knowledge of what happened in these camps.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 4:03 pm

                • “You are right Jim, the local Polish citizens of Lublin knew full well that Majdanek was just a hum-drum wartime labour camp,”

                  They knew nothing of the sort. Many of the eyewitness accounts come from local Poles.

                  “and thus had no qualms about using a section of the former camp as a brand new civilian cemetery after the war. If it was a “death camp”, then you can bet your life – as devout Roman Catholics – they would have avoided the site like the plague !”

                  What does that have to do with anything? The local Poles pillaged death camp and concentration camp sites for materials they needed, very little preservation happened after the war.

                  Where do you come up with this crap?

                  Comment by Jeff K. — October 18, 2016 @ 4:11 pm

                • The Jews would of built a huge pile of stones over the whole area so you couldn’t do any digging up of the ground….you know the Jew sacred land.
                  How convenient!

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 6:05 pm

                • Not only have the Poles established a cemetery on the site of the Majdanek Camp, but have built a lot of housing there too. That must be fun – telling all your family and friends that you are going to live on a former Nazi extermination camp – you must all come round for a barbeque some time!

                  I hope the residents don’t dig their flower beds and vegetable plots too deep in their garden soil; they might unearth some human remains – even an old skull that once belonged to Shluemi Goldstein.

                  But then how would you sell your property afterwards – what sort of advert could the estate agent use to entice new buyers to purchase your home. I know real estate is all about “Location; Location; Location” but what kind of person wants to be located on the site of a “death camp”. ( Well, people who regard themselves as Nazis, I suppose…).

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 4:35 pm

                • Tal, get over it. It’s rather simple, as people generally stop caring over time.

                  Get over it.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 18, 2016 @ 4:56 pm

                • You wrote: “Not only have the Poles established a cemetery on the site of the Majdanek Camp, but have built a lot of housing there too.”

                  The cemetery and the apartments are not on the land that was formerly the Majdanek camp. The cemetery is along side the former camp, not on the grounds of the former camp. The housing is on a hill that overlooks the former camp.

                  How much land do you think should remain unused forever because there was formerly a camp for Jews nearby, during World War II?

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 5:16 pm

                • FG asks;- ” How much land do you think should remain unused forever because there was formerly a camp for Jews nearby, during World War II? “.

                  Well it all depends if Majdanek was a “death camp” where tens of thousands of human beings were horrifically put to death; or whether it was simply a labour camp where the mortality was much lower – and was mainly due to wartime conditions and privations.

                  If its the former – then yes, the entire site should be regarded as sacred ground and remain untouched by human development. The place would then be converted into a park, or garden of Remembrance.

                  But if its the latter – then unused sections of the former camp can be sectioned off to be used for development purposes, because there is no reason to hold the land in high esteem and sacred reverence.

                  According to the maps that we have been shown, the area where the cemetery sits today, was actually within the perimeter of the camp. And so was the area of modern housing that exists towards the city-center side of the Majdanek complex. And the fact that the former camp has been sectioned off for both the cemetery and these housing projects proves to me that the Polish government, the Lublin city authorities, and the Majdanek custodians recognise that the camp fell into the latter category and thus consider it was not a death camp at all, and consequently allowed development to take place.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 6:23 pm

                • So as we’ve been saying no horror Disneyland camp.
                  Sorry DH…no mass Extermination going on there.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 18, 2016 @ 6:30 pm

              • You wrote: “The first map you submitted of Majdanek is highly suspect – because the cartographer has greatly expanded the perimeter of the camp to included the main city cemetery of Lublin!”

                The city cemetery does appear to be in the camp. When I went to visit the location of the camp, there was no fence between the cemetery and the camp. There were people there putting flowers on the graves while tourists, like me, were walking around the former camp.

                Comment by furtherglory — October 18, 2016 @ 10:50 am

                • But are these maps correct? I find it difficult to believe that the camp perimeter would include a vast civilian cemetery where undertakers, grave-diggers, mourners and visitors would be coming and going all the time. But there again, FG has visited the former camp, and has stated there was no fence, wall or hedge separating the camp from the cemetery.

                  So what are we to make of that !

                  Comment by Talbot — October 18, 2016 @ 11:32 am

  5. You don’t have to “look for truth”….it usually is right there in front of you.
    Problem is most people have an agenda and they fit their truth to to the story line.
    What happens when that is done is they end up changing the story many times as their lies get exposed.
    Lets see, was it 4 million or one million in Auschwitz deaths…..Was it Diesel gas, regular gas, ZB, electrocution, gas vans, fiery pits, or rails,
    25,000 killed per day, total deaths 40 million, 25 million, whatever million, clothing oiled 120 ft high with shoes piled 75 ft high.
    Was it 850,000 buried in Treblinka, buried, dug up and burnt on pyres, then the bones crushed with sticks and hammers, and then ashes scattered all over the camp
    with no teeth left behind? Mass graves with no MASS bodies…..maybe a few hundred here and there.
    Can some please give me the one and only story without all the lies.

    The HoloHuxsters have dug themselves into a nice grave here because their story is changing every year….and they don’t think people will notice.
    Problem is more and more people are noticing and their lies have been exposed.
    To learn more go to
    Holocausthandbooks.com a site that HoloHuxsters avoid like the plague..or go to the skeptics site that is made up of Exterminationist Psychopaths
    that love to talk about the killing of the Jews, and how miserably the Jews were treated, when the truth is, the Jews in the camps brought much hardship to their own people as they were the ones that ran the inner workings of the camps, then figured out a way to blame all the atrocity lies on the Germans.
    Then when they finally got out, they wrote books, and became spokespersons for the biggest scam in history.

    And…..the gullible Goyim swallowed it lock, stock and barrel, as the saying goes.

    JR
    CCFIILE.COM
    IHR.ORG
    VHO.ORG

    Comment by jrizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 9:16 am

    • Stop wasting people’s time with your premade posts.

      Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:24 am

  6. And the dumb Holocaust believers will nevertheless keep asking “Why did the Nazis dynamited their crematoria at Birkenau if there were no gas chambers there?” despite the Soviet-Allied heavy use of such cremation pics for anti-German graphic atrocity propaganda as early as summer 1944 (immediately after the Soviet capture of Majdanek and its crematories)…

    In the short run, that German operation was very successful and the Soviet capture almost went unnoticed. Nothing like what would have happened if the Germans had left a set of large crematories behind at Birkenau. Ilya Ehrenburg and Vasily Grossman probably ate their kippa when they saw that the Germans had just deprived them of their graphic propaganda toys at Auschwitz.😉

    Comment by hermie — October 13, 2016 @ 7:52 pm

    • Edit: read “the Soviet capture of Auschwitz almost went ” instead of “the Soviet capture almost went”

      Comment by hermie — October 13, 2016 @ 7:54 pm

    • 😄 the air photograph that show holes in the roof were released in the 1970’s by the CIA.

      Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 8:58 am

  7. FG wrote;- ” The main gas chamber building, which is located down the slope at the other end of the camp… ”

    Well, that’s good planning for you, guys n’ gals – the Germans built the crematorium and gas chambers at opposite ends of the camp! And not only that – there was an uphill slope for the Sondercommando slaves to drag all the bodies. Would it not have been easier and more efficient to have the facilities reversed, so that the victims could march themselves all the way up to the “gas chambers”, and afterwards the bodies could be wheeled or rolled downhill to the jolly old “cremy” at the foot of the slope ?

    But that’s what I like about Majdanek – everything you read and learn about it is a joke – pure, delightful, hokum!

    Comment by Talbot — October 13, 2016 @ 1:23 pm

    • They bodies were burned on pyres Tal… The Germans also employed trucks to deliver people to the gas chambers… They could easily employ these same trucks for delivering the bodies.

      http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=24902&p=439623&hilit=Truck#p439623

      Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 5:30 pm

      • So they were burning bodies on pyres at Majdanek were they. How many were incinerated by this method?

        You see, the numbers of those who were alleged to have been killed at Majdanek has dropped precipitously over the decades, and even now fluctuates wildly between 40,000 and 80,000 – so it would be rather nice to try and clarify the matter once and for all.

        There weren’t any “gas chambers” at Majdanek, so the idea that trucks were deployed to deliver victims to these facilities is pure nonsense.

        Comment by Talbot — October 13, 2016 @ 6:37 pm

        • 1) They burned people on pyres for a good portion of its existence. The old crematorium shut down in 1942 and the new crematorium wasn’t finished till 1943.

          I honestly only know of Two methods aka Crematoriums and Pyres. Though some witnesses say cremation pits also existed but from my understanding these were practically the same thing as the pyres. It you like I could mark out where these pyres were used. The Soviet report on Majdanek also described something similar to the cremation grills used at Dresden, but I cannot find any witness statements for this or guard testimony.

          The numbers for the Holodomor have dropped from 10 million to as low as 1.8 million… This is a higher reduction scholarly wise then the Majdanek death toll.

          I don’t know any historian who says 40,000 people died… The lowest I have seen was Hilbergs who said 50,000 but this estimate was made in the 1960’s and is way to low.

          http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=512094#p512094

          As for no gas chambers… You are just blowing out wind. The Soviet’s never found any CO2 bottles, they found CO bottles provided by T4. This can only mean they were used in the piping of chambers I & III of the bunker.

          Oberscharfuehrer Ternes spoke of gassings by Zyklon, preferably in chamber I.

          “On the evening of October 21, 1943, Camp Doctor SS Untersturmfuehrer Rindfleisch told me that on that very day 300 children of three to 10 years of age had been asphyxiated with the “cyclone” preparation in a gas cell.”

          SS Rottenfuehrer Theodor Scholen stated the following as well:

          “I often saw the truck, with a trailer attached, running from the gas cell to the crematorium and back. It took dead bodies from the gas cell, and then returned empty.”

          So your claim is pure nonsense, cause Carbon Monoxide has no industrial use, something recognized by Eric Hunt.

          Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 7:08 pm

          • I don’t know where you got your information about “CO bottles provided by T4” from, because the grandly titled “COMMUNIQUE OF THE POLISH-SOVIET EXTRAORDINARY COMMISSION FOR INVESTIGATING THE CRIMES COMMITTED BY THE GERMANS IN THE MAJDANEK EXTERMINATION CAMP IN LUBLIN” ( try reciting that, folks, after imbibing a few bottles of Russian and Polish vodka ), does not mention anything about “T4” at all.

            So could you tell us the source for your claim ?

            Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 9:08 am

            • “There are no documents, on the other hand, that refer to the supply of carbon monoxide. After the camp’s dissolution, however, five bottles were found on the camp’s area, in which the Polish-Soviet investigation commission established the presence of this gas. According to the commission’s report, written in Russian, the bottles were dark red and had the numbers 10, 17, 44, 52 and 60. They bore the inscription: “Kohlenoxid. Bei 150 Atmosphären abgefüllt 8.7.42. Zenerwajn und Brenen. Berlin B.9. Getestet bei 225 Atmosphären. Leergewicht 75,8 kg. Volumen 40,6 Liter.” (“Carbon oxide. Bottled at 150 atmospheres 8.7.42. Zenerwajn und Brenen. Berlin B.9. Tested at 225 atmospheres. Empty weight 75.8 kg. Volume 40.6 liters.”). This marking indicates that the bottles were from the depot of “Aktion T4″.”

              (Neue Studien zu Nationalsozialistischen Massentötungen durch Giftgas, page 223. Translation done by RM of HC.)

              Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:23 am

              • Ah – Roberto from Holocaust Controversies. That’s just his interpretation of course, but we really need the original documents written in German that the bottles of CO were indeed supplied from the Aktion T4 program, and did not come directly from the manufacturers themselves. ( That’s of course, if we can rely on the Soviet claims they found CO bottles in the first place, and were not in fact bottles of carbon dioxide. )

                Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 9:38 am

                • No you dumb ass… It’s a translation from Kranz

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:39 am

                • That aside its not RM’s interpretation as he never said this. It’s from the museum director, and it’s quite well documented that T4 made CO bottles.

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2016/10/contemporary-german-documents-on-carbon.html?m=1

                  http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=540067#p540067

                  This was pointed out in a footnote by Kranz.

                  Though the Soviet’s didn’t transcribe the name of the company correctly.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:49 am

                • Neither of those websites conclusively prove a link between T4 and the CO bottles allegedly found at Majdanek.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 10:04 am

                • Found another HoloHoax site…

                  Enjoy….
                  http://holohoaxconspiracy.blogspot.com/

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 10:16 am

                • You wrote: “Found another HoloHoax site…”

                  http://holohoaxconspiracy.blogspot.com/

                  The link that you gave calls this a “blogspot.” This is not a blog. What you are reading now is my blog, which is a place where the text changes every day, as a new blog post is added.

                  The link that you gave goes to a very poorly done website.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 14, 2016 @ 12:27 pm

                • Learn something called “there isn’t always the physical item.”

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 10:25 am

                • No one knows what you mean. You must quote what the previous person wrote, so we know to what you are replying.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 14, 2016 @ 12:31 pm

                • I think DH is on drugs…..a person with his mental facilities couldn’t be this dense.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 12:33 pm

                • Jim you are just retarded. I have told you it once. I can tell you it again.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 10:56 am

                • There is no way the Soviet’s would know about the T4 program at this point in time. Their inscription is to accurate to was as written on the T4 bottles.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 10:57 am

              • Thanks Jim – I’ll certainly be reading that site.

                Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 10:22 am

                • That site is the HoloHuxsters view just to let you know….
                  I like seeing what the competition has to say.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 10:35 am

                • OK, fair enough – but I will have a glance through the website.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 10:43 am

        • 2) You should read up on the destruction of archival materials for Majdanek.

          Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 7:18 pm

    • Just so you know the new crematorium was built some where around the ending of the gassing program… Gassed victims were most likely never delivered to it.

      Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 5:31 pm

  8. The “burned bodies” in front of the cremation furnaces look like animal carcases to me. Our Soviet friends probably brought them in from a local abattoir for a propaganda photo stunt.

    I can’t imagine the Germans leaving the furnaces and the surroundings in such a dreadfully shoddy state anyway. The SS would at least have ensured the doors would be closed, and the surroundings cleaned up before they left. And please don’t anyone tell me that the Red Army arrived all of a sudden while the camp was still in full swing. That’s the b.s. that we’ve been fed for 70 years – but in reality, as the Soviets approached Lublin, there would have been be at least 24 hours notice ( and probably more ) from the retreating German army and SS headquarters.

    Comment by Talbot — October 13, 2016 @ 12:43 pm

    • Like I said. ” The Reds. Trust them no further than you can throw a bull by the tail”. If those were in fact,burned bodies,the Reds would poke fun at them. The only dead person they respect ,is their asshole, Papa Joe.

      Comment by Tim — October 13, 2016 @ 2:40 pm

    • Tal, you honestly are full of it.

      Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 5:46 pm

      • That’s rich coming from you, Den.

        Comment by Talbot — October 13, 2016 @ 6:18 pm

        • Not really.

          I don’t ignore that the bones located near the crematorium are obviously human.

          Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 6:20 pm

          • I don’t know how you can say with any certainty that the remains are human. They look very suspicious to me, as though they could be animal bones. But the whole set-up looks staged – as if the Soviets had deliberately set out to present a ghastly scene of carnage and horror for propaganda purposes.

            Plus the fact, that the story-line that we’ve been presented with doesn’t make a lot of sense. The Germans didn’t burn down the most incriminating structures i.e;- the alleged “gas chambers” near the entrance of the camp – nor destroy the cremation furnaces. But instead ( if we are to believe the evidence of the photo ) they leave half-cremated remains within the ovens, and then torch the wooden building, hoping that by doing this, all the evidence will be destroyed, and yet knowing full well that brick-built furnaces will not burn at all in a conflagration.

            Comment by Talbot — October 13, 2016 @ 6:54 pm

            • “They look very suspicious to me”

              That’s what happens when you start questioning everything, when you can clearly tell its human remains… That’s what happens in a crematorium for human remains.

              Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 7:09 pm

    • Well, I would not say definitively these are or aren’t human remains in front of these ovens. One thing I will say though is obviously this is a staged scene.

      If you look at the oven closest to the photographer, you can see ash inside of it. Now granted, I’m not a forensic pathologist, but to my “untrained eyes” it seems the bones on the ground are not consistent with the amount of ash in the oven. These ovens were only made to cremate one body at a time, and the photo of the oven with the ash, that’s a sizable amount of ash, which probably contains the totally cremated remains of one individual. Now in order to totally cremate a body in this type of oven (as opposed to modern cremation ovens which burn a lot hotter with computerized temperature controls that also burn the bones in a nearly single cycle – the operator still needs to let the chamber cool a bit so they can take an instrument to break up the bones); once all the flesh is burned off, than you have to remove the bones, crush them and then return them to the cremation chamber to finish the process.

      Most obvious thing that tells me this is staged, is the “assembly” of these bones in front of the camera. They are arranged to look like something, not just a pile of bones, and here is where the possible animal caucuses (or at least carcasses brought in from some place else) I believe would have some credibility. When an entity dies (man or beast) and is left to decompose in the open environment, one of the last things to decompose, besides the bones is the ligaments that hold the bones together. So thus if you pick up an “almost entirely” decomposed carcass of an animal in the wild, it will stay intact to a certain degree. Now cremated remains you pull out of an oven are not going to have ligaments still intact that you’d just “pick up” an entire body and “pull it out of the oven”, like you’d transport around a classroom skeleton held together by wire. If these bones actually came out of the crematorium, someone painstakingly took the time to carefully arrange them for the camera.

      Comment by Kat — October 15, 2016 @ 6:19 am

      • Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 5:04 pm

      • Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 5:04 pm

        • Proving they are human remains or not human remains does not explain how they got there “so intact” from allegedly being removed from the cremation ovens?

          That was the point of what I wrote. Please explain how these bones got to where they are so “nicely arranged” to look like skeletons, without having been painstakingly arranged by someone for the sake of taking a picture?

          Also, look closely at the skeleton closest to the camera as comparison to the skeleton you posted. The scapula (shoulder blades) don’t look like human scapula. The spinal bones on this skeleton also don’t match the picture you posted. Humans have a three pronged bony ridge of the spinal vertebra. The skeleton in the picture has a two pronged bony ridge of the vertebra. Arguably, maybe there is one skull in the picture and the pelvis of the skeleton closest to the camera is a bit obscured and this is why I said, I can’t verify undoubtedly that these are human remains. They may be bones of animal carcasses arranged to look human; as there is no doubt, they were arranged for the camera.

          Comment by Kat — October 17, 2016 @ 7:05 am

  9. Why all the sudden are we buying into what the Reds are selling. I don’t care what they ( Ruskies) said. They probably pulled bodies out of an oven,that they torched.

    I’m not making that statement ,so i can say the holo happened one way or another. I can’t get past who they said,”found the bodies”,in the pictures.

    Is this supposed to make us think the Reds are humanitarians,and look out for the rights of others. Don’t forget . These are the same assholes that locked down one of General Dolittles bomber crews,cause they landed in Russia when they ran out of fuel. Yeah. They were really on our side.

    I read the story on this site right here. At one of the prisons,they found out the Reds were getting ready to roll up on them . The prison staff hauled ass. The Jew prisoners were right along with them. So if the Reds were such loving people ( all the love and warmth of a gator),why did the Jews haul ass with the prison staff ?

    Whatever prisons the Reds may have taken,I’m not gonna believe they had a sympathetic ear,to any inmates that were locked down there.

    Comment by Tim — October 13, 2016 @ 11:55 am

  10. This is the image you were looking for.

    Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 10:42 am

    • Oh no, DH! – not your old photo again that you’ve dug out from somewhere-or-other. Did it originally come from our Soviet Bolshevik comrades? If it did, then please supply us with some details about this grave – after all, there is no reason on this earth that we should accept a photograph at face value from these notorious fabricators and liars.

      1) Whereabouts exactly in Majdanek was this pit full of human remains found?

      2) How did these people die?

      3) Approximately how long had these remains been lying in this grave?

      4) Were these remains found exactly as we see them in the photo, or ( as I suspect ) they have they been tampered with, and added to, with other human as well as animal bones.

      5) If this is grave number 7, then where exactly were numbers 1 to 6 – and were there any other pits with higher numbers?

      6) What happened to these human remains afterwards, and more to the point – where do they lie buried today?

      Comment by Talbot — October 13, 2016 @ 12:22 pm

      • Talbot….those are questions that have no answer by the HoloHuxsters….they think that most people are stupid and will go along
        with the lies because they have to be true if the Jews said so. Imagine presenting bodies with NO further information….and I’m the “retarded” one.

        JR

        Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 13, 2016 @ 12:29 pm

        • Yes Jim, you are the retarded on.

          Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 7:16 pm

      • 😄 Tal, she asked me to post it.

        Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 3:22 pm

      • “There was also ample evidence that the Germans had incinerated corpses on large pyres, and the commission had found at least 18 large mass graves within the camp area, and 1,350 cubic meters of compost that consisted, among other things, of human ashes and small human bones. On the basis of the capacity of the old incinerators and the new crematorium, the assumed capacity of the pyres both inside and outside the camp, the commission estimated that some 1.5 million people had been killed in the camp. This latter figure was found suspect from the beginning, and led in 1948 to a new, official estimate of 360,000 victims based on analysis of transports, lists of the dead, and the occupancy of the barracks”

        -Robert Jan Van Pelt

        Pelt report VHO edition page 78

        Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 7:14 pm

        • But that’s the trouble with all these alleged death camps and massacre sites throughout Poland and Russia, we have to either rely on “Commissions” that were set up by the Soviets and Poles immediately after the war, or the testimony of so-called “eye-witnesses” and former camp personnel.

          These “Commissions” were totally organised and biased in favour of the two victors of WW2, who had a vested interest in finding incriminating evidence against the Germans. And thus, it is quite obvious, that if they were prepared to massively inflate the numbers of the dead victims to astronomical levels, then what other lies, fabrications, shenanigans and stunts were they prepared to pull.

          There was no attempt to ask for teams of monitors from other nations, let alone neutral countries such as Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey, to come and inspect the sites, in order to check that the investigations of these Commissions were all above board.

          For me personally, eye-witness testimony from former inmates can only be accepted if their statements have been rigorously checked by a reasonably impartial team of investigators, and then their evidence tested and cross-examined in a properly constituted court of law. The reason is, of course, is that former inmates are not impartial witnesses and cannot be relied upon to give truthful and honest testimony. If the investigators themselves are heavily biased too, then the facts – let alone anything resembling the truth – can easily go flying out of the window!

          And as for the testimonies of the former guards and camp personnel – then these can be discarded as worthless. These men were held in Soviet custody, and so we have no idea of the conditions, treatment, threats and inducements they were subjected to in order to come out with their weird statements confirming exactly what their captors wanted them to say.

          The absurdities of the Majdanek story can be seen by Robert Jan Van Pelt himself, when he talks about funeral pyres both inside and outside the camp. Now why would the Nazis do both? Surely you do either one or the other. To me, this shows that the story-line cannot be kept straight, because it is basically untrue, and made up from various witness statements.

          Van Pelt mentions no less than eighteen large mass graves, plus human remains found mixed in with compost. So do we accept this at face value? – I think not. There is no verification at all from an independent, or impartial source – it is simply the assertions made by the original “Commission”, and faithfully repeated by Van Pelt.

          Van Pelt claims the numbers of dead were soon afterwards reduced down to 360,000 – but this message obviously did not get through to the compilers of my “Encyclopaedia of the Second World War” – published in the early 1970’s – which claims that 1,380,000 victims were murdered at Majdanek.

          Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 4:39 am

          • Those were great points Talbot and I will just go a few steps further. Most of the numbers are so far-fetched it’s hard to believe people could believe things this crazy. It really comes down to what you want to believe the Jews and their cohorts have a story to tell they have to make the crime scene fit to this story that’s not how write history you take the facts and whatever the facts say that’s what they are.
            Another thing that the Jews have slyly done is they have covered up the crime scene by putting memorials on the ground that you now can’t investigate what’s under it don’t think those were not strategically put there they were to keep people from finding out the facts.

            Another thing that should be done is they should be finding out how the murder weapon work by recreating how it was done it’s not a difficult process because you can do it with measuring instruments. Do a gassing using zyklon-b by throwing it on the floor seeing if it works the way they say, you’ll find out that it doesn’t work that way that’s why they don’t want to do it. Most crime scenes recreate the murder but not with the HoloHoax. Just think it’s the biggest murder scene ever to happen and yet they don’t do a Recreation crime scene of it. Most of the things that happened there can be recreated in some way and if they really were honest they would do that to shut us up but they don’t because they can’t shut us up because they know that what was saying is true so they just have to spread the same old Lies over and over and over again and we’re supposed to believe it.

            In regards to testimonies I’m reading through Holocaust handbook series and the testimonies that were given are just so off-the-wall. You would think I’m reading some sort of fiction story. Most of these eyewitnesses weren’t even there to witness the event, most are second and third hand information and then when you do get someone that might have even been there the things that they saying is so off the wall you wonder what drug they were taken that day.

            So all in all the Holohucksters don’t have a case. They don’t have the evidence to prove it so they continue to lie about it and then the writers of the books they in some way try to reduce death figures down to a more reasonable level but still they’re
            Not even close to what could have happened if they are going along with the official story which seems to change every year.

            Then on top of it all we have the troll Holohucksters who come to sites like this to try to Peddle their nonsense thinking that we are stupid here, no we’re not like the skeptic sites that believe in the HoloHoax we want facts we want to see it proved it’s just not happening.

            On top of not being able to prove their case they throw it upon us to say where did the Jews go? What I’m reading now is they went to parts of Russia well beyond the borders of Germany can I prove it no but that was the game plan by the higher officials they figured if they conquered Russia they were going to set up all these work camps in Russia so did they follow through with sending these people there I don’t know, but it sure seems reasonable if you talking about that many people whom they say they can’t find and have no record of. I personally don’t think there was that many people around to ship around most of the Jews in the area were gone by the time all this started to happen.
            And if they were around it was just in work camps doing what they’re supposed to be doing working.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 5:52 am

          • The issue is that you pick out areas where scholarship fails instead of looking to correct it. You wish to exploit failures as if they stand for the body but they don’t, which makes your argument a waste of time.

            Maybe you should visit one of these sites and see the bone fragments on the ground.

            Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 8:56 am

            • bone fragments on the ground — do not prove anything about the alleged ‘Holocaust’, any more than clothes and shoes taken from prisoners, hair shaved from their heads, or empty Zyklon B containers prove about it at Auschwitz — yet all of those things are displayed to tourists as (part of the) ‘proof’ of the ‘Holocaust’ — why am I not surprised that you are stupid and dishonest enough to suggest that they do?

              Comment by eah — October 14, 2016 @ 9:12 am

              • 😄 Eah, they prove that AR was not a transit camp.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:26 am

              • They prove AR was not a transit camp, so much death for an area that only a few prisoners were ment to stay:

                Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 10:54 am

                • You wrote: “They prove AR was not a transit camp, so much death for an area that only a few prisoners were ment to stay:”

                  No one knows what you are talking about. AR was not just ONE camp. AR stands for Action Reinhardt and it refers to several camps. I wrote about this on my website:
                  Begin quote from my website:
                  Just as at the Auschwitz main camp, the first Jewish prisoners that were sent to Majdanek were 10,000 young men from Slovakia, followed by transports from the area that is now the Czech Republic. Jews from Austria, Germany, France and Holland were also sent to Majdanek, but from mid 1942 until mid 1943, most of the Jews sent to the camp were from the Lublin region and the ghettos of Warsaw and Bialystok.

                  According to a Museum booklet, “The transports of Jews from the General Government were in direct connection with Action Reinhard whose aim was mass extermination of Jews and plunder of Jewish property. The headquarters of this action, managed by O. Globocnik, was in Lublin.”

                  The Action Reinhard camps were at Sobibor, Belzec and Treblinka, all on the border of Soviet-occupied Poland and the General Government, which was the name given to central Poland by the Nazis. Lublin is the easternmost large city in Poland.
                  End quote

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 14, 2016 @ 12:15 pm

                • FG…Thanks for straightening that (AR) thing out…Didn’t quite understand what he was referring to.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jim Rizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 12:22 pm

                • FG: “The Action Reinhard camps were at Sobibor, Belzec and Treblinka, all on the border of Soviet-occupied Poland and the General Government, which was the name given to central Poland by the Nazis. Lublin is the easternmost large city in Poland.”

                  Provide more to work with please. This is ignoring the bones which people can easily find and Belzec and Treblinka, or the clear admission that Treblinka was used to Liquidate people in the stoop report.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 5:00 pm

                • A few bones found here and there does not prove Mass extermination you have a pretty thick skull if you can’t understand that.
                  We do not deny that there’s people that have died but not Millions buried in such a small area you would need a lot more bones than that to prove that point.

                  JR

                  Comment by Jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 5:08 pm

                • The Thing Jim is that its been well over 70 years, and the fact the ground is restless should tell you something. Bones can be found in these areas but its ridiculous to defend your own opinion. You have stated that you believe around 300,000 Jews die but you base this opinion on a single red cross publication which only stands for Germans and German Jews. The thing is this document doesn’t provide an estimate for Belzec, Treblinka, or Sobibor.

                  The thing is your failure to account for these numbers.

                  It has nothing to do with a “thick skull”. Its that no evidence for your resettlement program exists, which is something Cole and others have said. No massive Budget is there for you.

                  The Bone fragments on the surface and the ash which can be found on these sites. (something I have already shown you earth core samples for.) clearly do not fit such a narrative of a transit camp.

                  “But caring for 2.5 million people for three years? Uh, dudes, there’ll have to be a pretty large fucking budget for that. And whereas it’s plausible to say that the mass murders during the Reinhardt period were paid for “off the books” because it was an operation so secret that Goebbels in his own diary stated that it should not be spoken of in detail, if the “evacuees” were treated with kindness and compassion, why hide that budget?

                  I guess I’m just sayin’, if you expect to see a “budget” for a secret and short-term murder program, why don’t you expect to see a budget for the long-term care and feeding of almost 2.5 million “evacuated” Jews? It’s insane to expect a budget for one and not the other. ”

                  Your failure to understand this is just sad.

                  Sobibor: Wojciech Mazurekm

                  http://sobibor.info.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Sobib%C4%82%C5%82r-Bem-Mazurek-ANG..pdf

                  Belzec Tregenza

                  http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/aktion.reinhard/ftp.cgi?camps/aktion.reinhard/belzec/Archeological_Report

                  Treblinka:

                  http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2012/01/thomas-kues-on-recent-archaeological.html

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 5:58 pm

                • Some good info for Holo Truthers not Holohuxsters

                  http://codoh.com/library/authors/1523/

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 6:21 pm

                • “Some good info for Holo Truthers not Holohuxsters ”

                  Again Jim demonstrates his inability to defend his position or properly debate.

                  It’s nice to see the ‘return’ of his ignorance.

                  http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 6:25 pm

                • DH….. just to let you know I don’t waste my time with people like you that have all the answers you can’t prove anything you say it’s all conjecture everything revision say is wrong so why are you even here and I’m not going to waste my time typing away by talking into my phone just a deal with knucklehead like you.
                  You are disrespectful you don’t respect people older than, you have all the answers to life and you don’t listen to anyone, so you are in my book a waste of time.
                  That’s what’s good about age you can see through people that really have no business speaking about topics that they really have no answer for and make it up as they go along.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 6:37 pm

                • 1) Jim, I have never said I “have all the answers”. I also fail to see you I have not supported my claims, as I have only stated what the Historians say and quoted evidence which backs up, such as Kolas ground samples.

                  2) I don’t expect you to put effort into things cause you cannot even read the handbooks you own.

                  3) Age shouldn’t matter. This shouldn’t be a basis of authority and I haven’t argued that your opinion is invalid because of your age.

                  I have argued you are unable to formula your own opinion and are forced to creating walls of text in a hope of a retort.

                  4) Actually if one wants to base their argument on age one could argue that your are actually loosing your logistical abilities. I honestly don’t think age matters, but the fact you use it as an Ad Hominem when you cannot argue different (like you did at skeptic) then you show your logic relies completely on logical fallacies.

                  5) you argue that you don’t dabble in counter anti-revisionism, but you only proved to be full of shit here. You joined skeptic to debate and you joined international skeptic as well. Shows how much you “don’t deal with people like me”.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 7:01 pm

                • I got a better one. For once let’s focus on the crimes against humanity,the Hebs have done.

                  The lil crybabies were directly involved in Africans being bought to North America,and sold into slavery. When is someone gonna drag the bastards into court,and sue them? Sorry. They don’t get a ,”get out of jail free” card on this one.

                  That should go a long way to explain just how racist the Jew bastards are.

                  Comment by Tim — October 16, 2016 @ 10:29 pm

                • Jews and the slave trade,
                  http://wethoughttheywerewhite.weebly.com​/who​-are​-the​-jews​.html
                   
                   
                  My name is
                  Dontell Jackson, and like many African-Americans, I was brought up in a
                  culture deeply infused with propaganda designed to lay the blame for all of the
                  black race’s ills on the white man. It was not until I began looking into
                  the actual history of blacks, whites, and other races in America, that I came
                  to realize that many if not most of the resentment that African-Americans
                  harbor regarding our long history of abuse and exploitation has been
                  intentionally misdirected by those who are most responsible for it, to shift the
                  blame away from themselves as a people onto the white race who they regard
                  as their enemies.
                   
                  The reality is that the white race had little to do with the slave trade
                  that took our ancestors away from Africa and sold them into bondage in the
                  New World. That crime was committed not by White Europeans, but by Jews who
                  were engaged in transatlantic commerce between the Old World and the
                  Americas where they hoped to establish a New Jerusalem from which to rule the
                  world by way of exploiting all races who were not members of their tribe of
                  “chosen people.” In their efforts to accomplish that goal, the white race has
                  been hoodwinked and manipulated as unsuspecting pawns almost as much as
                  the black race has been.
                   
                  Blacks have been purposely misled by the Jewish people who, in previous
                  centuries, built their fortunes in the transatlantic slave trade, and who
                  continue to manipulate and exploit us even today. Because most black people
                  make no distinction between Jews and whites, it is easy for the Jews to evade
                  justice and escape the blame for the wrongs that they have inflicted on our
                  people for centuries by convincing blacks that it was the white man who
                  did it. In most cases the vast majority of the white race had nothing to do
                  with slavery or other crimes that have been committed against our people.
                  Whites were and continue to be exploited and manipulated by the Jews, the
                  same as blacks, and their race is even more hated by the Jew, where blacks are
                  simply disregarded by the Jews with indifference, as are other races. We
                  are all simply pawns to the Jews who have no other use for us beyond being a
                  source of profit to them and a weapon that can be used to help destroy
                  whites, who they see as their sworn enemies, by encouraging us to breed with
                  them until there are no longer any whites left.
                   
                  I would like to invite all of my black brothers and sisters to join me in
                  untangling the lies, deceptions and half-truths that have been foisted upon
                  us as a race, and to explore the true history of what has been done to us
                  as a people by those who were more than happy to encourage us to think
                  these wrongs were committed against us by whites, when in reality those crimes
                  were carried out by Jews.
                   
                  Please feel free to share the information that I have presented on this
                  site with as many of your friends, relatives, and associates as possible, so
                  that we as a people can gain greater freedom through knowledge of the truth
                  which is the only thing that can set us free from the state of
                  subjugation, manipulation, and exploitation at the hands of those who have and who
                  continue to deceive us. Let us educate ourselves as a people by sharing this
                  knowledge of the truth among all of our race so that we can at last break
                  free of the bondage of the lies and superstition that have enslaved our minds and our spirits.

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 16, 2016 @ 10:50 pm

                • Blacks may not make the distinction between ,”Jews and whites.” That’s because the purposely mislead them. A Jew may tell a black,”I’m white”, but the ones I’ve met make the distinction between ,”Jews and whites”.

                  Like i said,Jews are some of the most racist f–ks in the world. Sam Bowers could take lessons on how to be a king racist,from the Jews (he was the founder of the Mississippi White Knights. A seperate part of the Klan).

                  Hey. Jews had it easy getting numbers,”tattooed” on them. I can’t recall the mans name,but his owner,had all his slaves branded on their forehead . How f–ked is that?

                  Yeah the blacks still get on their soapbox ( not all of them ),about how the were treated. Juxtapose the blacks with the Jews,and the blacks just make a tiny squeak about their complaints. The Jews scream so loud about it,that what other life is out in the universe,they’re gonna hear it.

                  The odd thing here,the blacks haven’t haven’t held America liable ( unlike what the Jews are doing to Germany) for them being enslaved. They go right to the offending party. The last case I heard was back in the 80’s. I think it was Sourhern Pacific that was sued for using slave labor. That’s fine. I’ll go along with it . However the dumbf–k Jews,want to hold Germany responsible. Where the hell does that make sense?

                  Comment by Tim — October 17, 2016 @ 2:43 pm

                • Slave trade wasn’t a genocide… It didn’t have the goal of exterminating a people in whole or in part.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 17, 2016 @ 12:29 pm

                • You wrote: “This is ignoring the bones which people can easily find and Belzec and Treblinka, or the clear admission that Treblinka was used to Liquidate people in the stoop report.”

                  I wrote about the Stroop report on my website at http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhettoUprising.html

                  This was written before I became a Holocaust denier, so it is kosher.

                  I also blogged about this at https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2016/03/08/does-the-famous-hoefle-telegram-prove-the-holocaust/

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 16, 2016 @ 5:45 pm

                • You wrote: ” the clear admission that Treblinka was used to Liquidate people in the stoop report.”

                  I wrote about the Stroop report on my website at
                  http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/WarsawGhetto/WarsawGhettoUprising01.html

                  My scrapbookpages.com website was written before I became a Holocaust denier.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 16, 2016 @ 5:56 pm

                • I am not interested in your website FG… If you could quote the necessary this will save a lot of time.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 6:00 pm

                • You wrote: “I am not interested in your website FG… If you could quote the necessary this will save a lot of time.”

                  If I quote from my website, this will make an extremely long comment. I don’t think the comment section of my blog should contain an entire website page.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 16, 2016 @ 6:05 pm

                • I am not asking for the whole page, I am only asking you quote the material of interest about the current issue surrounding the issue. Alright FG?

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 6:15 pm

                • You wrote: “I am only asking you quote the material of interest about the current issue surrounding the issue.”

                  You can do a search and find what you want on my website or on my blog. I can’t deal with you.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 16, 2016 @ 6:20 pm

                • “You can do a search and find what you want on my website or on my blog. I can’t deal with you.”

                  That’s great but this seems unrelated to my simple request.

                  If you cannot deal with me then why bother to respond? It’s not a hard thing to do. I can just pester Jim about his idiotic Statements and I can just keep poking at Tals lack of knowledge in this subject.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 6:23 pm

            • Are you seriously trying to tell us that one can visit these sites today and view human remains lying scattered about on the ground? Do you not understand what you are saying here – that after 70 years, no one has bothered to either cover them over with earth, or collect all the artefacts and place them in a specially constructed mass grave or mausoleum.

              If this be so, then one has to ask the Polish government and the holocaust authorities what the hell do they think they are playing at. Only the most primitive and backward societies leave human remains lying scattered around unburied. This is totally unheard of in the civilised world.

              Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 9:24 am

              • Bone “FRAGMENTS”. They can be found but generally are small pieces of bones.

                For example Belzec.

                https://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-info.dk/belzec/belzec_today/image0.htm

                http://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/trip/belzec.htm

                http://www.1000yearsofjewishheritage.com/0_0_0_0_344_258_csupload_64349293.jpg?u=3595756922

                I would recommend reading the sections of Tregenzas report on Nizkor.

                http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/aktion.reinhard/belzec/Archeological_Report/

                Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:33 am

                • But even an area of ground covered with small bone fragments and ashes should have been sensitively covered over with earth decades ago, and clearly demarcated as a grave site with an appropriate memorial.

                  I don’t think anyone can go to Belzec today and view any human remains lying exposed on the ground, because the Polish holocaust loonies have smothered the entire site of the former camp with builders rubble and rocks. Why they’ve done this, is anyone’s guess. God knows what the relatives of the alleged victims think about their loved ones lying underneath a field of concrete and stone rubble.

                  Comment by Talbot — October 14, 2016 @ 9:53 am

                • 😄 how in the hell would Belzec be a gravel site? Or Sobibor? Or event Treblinka 2?

                  This isn’t part of the narrative that the revisionists push, making your argument absurd and baseless.

                  I have already provided links which clearly show bones as well and they are feather recent.

                  I still honestly don’t care what the witnesses view about it anyway… The area also has ask in the ground which can be found from Kolas study.

                  Sobibor one can find white powder which is clearly ash.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:59 am

                • We are dealing with someone who has lost all powers of reasoning here…..

                  JR

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 9:54 am

                • Jim there is no reason in your world.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 10:02 am

                • You wrote: “Jim there is no reason in your world.”

                  No one knows what you are talking about. I think that you mean that there is no reasoning with you in your world. You must quote what Jim said, so that we know what you are talking about.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 14, 2016 @ 12:39 pm

                • Here I will simply it.

                  Reason doesn’t exist in Jim Rizoli’s fantasy land.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 12:41 pm

                • You wrote: “Reason doesn’t exist in Jim Rizoli’s fantasy land.”

                  I have watched the videos done by Jim, as he interviews famous people associated with the Holocaust. I think that Jim does extremely well in his videos. He puts his subjects at ease and let’s them talk without interrupting them or arguing with them.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 14, 2016 @ 12:50 pm

                • His interviews do not make him intelligent.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 4:18 pm

            • Bone fragments on the ground……Whoopee do!….And what does that prove? Maybe if you had tens of thousands of bone fragments on the ground that would be something. Why haven’t they presented to us truck loads of fragments to line up with your theories? ……The massive amounts of bone fragments don’t exist thats why
              So you think presenting a few bone fragments is going to do it.
              Your exterminationist agenda has to line up with millions of people being killed and you have to fit the crime scene with what would be normally facts to prove it….but you don’t have ANY and you expect us to believe the pie in the sky answer.
              You have NO facts to show for it just repetive rhetoric that you quote and say because you have to say something but that something is just empty reasoning.
              Back to the drawing boards HoloHuxsters…..

              JR

              Comment by jrizoli — October 14, 2016 @ 9:29 am

              • 😄 thousands of crushed up bones Jim show these sites were not transit camps. They go against your narrative for no mass graves, just as the documents do as well.

                Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:40 am

              • Having been to the AR camps multiple times I can assure you there are no “bone fragements” lying around. And not to beat a dead Jew, er horse, the sign at the Majdanek “gas chamber” states that carbon monoxide was used, and another states the CO2 canisters are original. The guides also state that it was prisoners who loaded carts with gassed prisoners and pushed them (uphill, twice) to the crematorium. ( the current one being a “replica” of course. From the moment I saw the layout, and the proximity to civilian hosing in Lublin, I became skeptical of the “official story”. The shoe bins are hollow inside, and the obligatory paved-over memorial area where the alleged graves were (like at belzec and Treblinka) make ground penetrating radar impossible.

                Comment by Schlageter — October 14, 2016 @ 12:50 pm

                • You wrote: ” From the moment I saw the layout, and the proximity to civilian hosing in Lublin, I became skeptical of the “official story”.

                  That is the same thing that I thought when I saw that the Majdanek camp was on a main road, and that there was a cemetery right next to it. People would have been coming to the cemetery, where they could look right into the camp and see everything that was happening in the camp.

                  The commandant’s house was a few feet from the main road that goes past the camp. Anyone driving down this road could have shot the Commandant.

                  Comment by furtherglory — October 14, 2016 @ 1:02 pm

                • If all these people lived within in viewing distance of the prison,and knew what was going on,how come they were never called to be witness for the prosecution ?

                  Comment by Tim — October 15, 2016 @ 12:59 pm

                • The canisters are not original, they do not match the inscriptions provided by the Soviet’s.

                  Also where is this sign at? I have never seen nor been shown a sign saying the bottles were original schlageter.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 16, 2016 @ 11:01 am

        • official estimate of 360,000 victims

          It is against the law to ‘deny the Holocaust’ in Germany — included (at the whim of prosecutors) is any downplaying of it, or attempting to minimize the number of victims — keep this in mind — here is a link to the German language Wikipedia page on Majdanek — the section on the number of victims — there it says:

          Über die Zahl der Opfer, die in Majdanek bis zum Herbst 1943 mit unterschiedlichen Methoden getötet wurden oder dort starben, gab es lange Zeit nur grob geschätzte Angaben. Erste Zahlenangaben nach der Befreiung im Jahre 1944 beliefen sich auf 1.700.000 Opfer. 1948 vermutete man, dass in Majdanek 360.000 Menschen umgekommen seien. Spätere Schätzungen gingen von einer Gesamtzahl von 235.000 Opfern (davon 110.000 Juden) aus; bei diesen Schätzwerten wurde die Opferzahl durch Massenvergasung in Majdanek auf unter 50.000 angenommen. Neue Forschungsergebnisse von 2006 reduzieren die Gesamtzahl aller derjenigen, die in Majdanek ums Leben kamen, auf 78.000, darunter 59.000 Juden.

          So currently it is claimed that, in total (“Gesamtzahl)”, less than 80k people actually died at Majdanek — this entire total could without doubt easily be accounted for by the terrible, unsanitary living conditions that no doubt prevailed there throughout the camp’s existence (and for which the Germans can justly be held responsible) — in other words, the death toll has nothing to do with “Massenvergasung”, for which there exists absolutely no proof.

          Van Pelt is an unscientific hack. Just like you.

          Comment by eah — October 14, 2016 @ 9:28 am

          • Not sure about that Eah, considering that the current estimate by Kranz is 78,000… That is the official museum estimate so I don’t see how saying 360,000 people didn’t died at Majdanek would send you to Jail.

            Mind providing one person who said the official museum estimate was correct and ended up being sent to jail?

            None exist.

            You can go to jail for denying that homicidal gas chambers excited at Majdanek.

            Comment by Denying-History — October 14, 2016 @ 9:43 am

  11. Really now! Do honestly ANYONE in their right mind would allow themselves to be put on a gurney and shoved into a fiery oven ALIVE?
    The Jews weren’t that stupid, but then again these are the type of Horror Disneyland stories that are spread around to make it look like the Germans were monsters…..
    I’m surprised no one mentioned the mother being thrown in alive with her baby on their stomach screaming all the way.
    Lets not forget the Germans bayoneting the babies and throwing them into the fiery pits, that always is one that tugs on the heart strings of the crazies out their that believe it.
    These people are sick people and this is how they think, morbid, this is how they deal with others in their treatment of them, just ask the Palestinians.
    Do you think sane people wold spread such nonsense? Whatever the Jews accused the Germans of doing you can rest assured that they did those things to people whom rubbed them the wrong way, or at least they would love to do it to them.
    Truly a despicable group of people and just think we have to deal with all their lies today.

    And talking about despicable….. I used to have 4 cable shows on my local cable station dealing with all sorts of topics and the HoloHoax being one of them, the Jews complained about my shows causing traumatic anguish within the Jewish community….so they banned all of my shows…….bad news is, they replace the time slot with a Transvestite show and LGBT shows.
    So now I have to watch (I don’t for long) some truly confused Transvestite or whatever he is guy dressed up in women’s clothes wig, makeup, etc…telling all the other confused sick people in the town how to deal with their sickness (my words). Lets not forget the Jews openly support the Gay and LGBT community and all the other sickos out there that don’t know what sex they are.
    What about the Traumatic anguish I have to deal with while watching these nut cases?

    JR

    Comment by jrizoli — October 13, 2016 @ 10:11 am

    • Jim… You honestly have to be retarded…

      Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 10:40 am

      • No the Jews must be (retarded) to allow themselves to be put on gurneys and fed to the fire….you think “a normal person) would allow that to happen without putting up a fight? Or is it my stand against Sodomites? Are you gay? A transvestite…..How about a LBGT’er.

        Say it ain’t so…..

        JR

        Comment by jrizoli — October 13, 2016 @ 12:06 pm

        • Jim, nock it off with your Homophobic mindset and understand a simple concept that the Jews didn’t know what was going on. Hoess admits they were able to trick the Jews. They also didn’t let all the Jews out at once at sites like treblinka.

          Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 3:23 pm

          • Knock is spelled ,”knock”,not “nock”. Hey I’m just trying to get the jump on FG. She’ll correct you in a heartbeat. That’s to be expected in this site,she’s a journalist. I’m not trying to run you down here. FG has called me down on more than one occasion.

            Comment by Tim — October 13, 2016 @ 3:52 pm

            • Lol I am aware, thanks though.

              Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 3:55 pm

          • You actually believe anything that Hoess said? Let’s not forget he said three million Jews were killed at Auschwitz.

            JR

            Comment by jrizoli — October 13, 2016 @ 5:17 pm

            • Lol not everything, only the areas where correlation exists

              Also just so you know he corrected this number in his Memoir, and said that 2.5 million was a statistic from Eichmann.

              I know you have been told this before.

              Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 5:20 pm

              • Of course he corrected his number LOL .I don’t believe a word of Hoess….
                http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v07/v07p389_Faurisson.html

                Comment by jrizoli — October 13, 2016 @ 5:28 pm

                • That’s because you are a waste of time.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 5:29 pm

                • Truth is usually a waste of time for people who want to believe lies.

                  Comment by jrizoli — October 13, 2016 @ 5:31 pm

                • No the truth is something you haven’t looked for.

                  Comment by Denying-History — October 13, 2016 @ 5:32 pm


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