Efraim Zuroff prays at monument for the Jews killed in Lithuania
The following quote is from a recent news article which you can read in full at http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-lithuania-ready-to-own-up-to-its-holocaust-past/
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[Author] Vanagaite and Zuroff are not in full accord. She believes that in lieu of Lithuanian introspection, the extent and cruelty of Lithuanian complicity has been vastly exaggerated – including in survivors’ testimonies. She cast doubt on testimonies about a man who was boiled alive in Panevezys and an account that locals, after slaughtering dozens of Jews in Kaunas, sang the Lithuanian anthem. Zuroff says he has no reason to doubt these accounts.
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Lithuanian man standing near the bodies of Jews that he has killed
The plight of the Lithuanian Jews has, unfortunately, not been told enough. I have written three previous blog posts about the Lithuanian Jews who were killed, for no reason at all, during World War II, by their non-Jewish neighbors. This is a story that has been mostly kept out of the news — until now.
Author Ruta Vanagaite’s latest book, “Musiskiai” (“Our People”), is “a travelogue about the Holocaust consisting of interviews with witnesses to the atrocities perpetrated by Lithuanians against their Jewish neighbors.”
You can read more about her book in this news article: http://www.timesofisrael.com/is-lithuania-ready-to-own-up-to-its-holocaust-past/
The following quote is from the news article, cited above:
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Vanagaite, who is 61 and not Jewish, visited killing fields in Lithuania and Belarus to research the book, which she co-authored with Efraim Zuroff, the renowned Nazi hunter and director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Israel office. Though she found the journalist’s request to see her birth certificate unsettling, she complied anyway.
“I know where it’s coming from,” Vanagaite told JTA. “Lithuanian involvement in the Holocaust is such a taboo that being a Jew or a Russian spy are the only explanations for wanting to talk about it.”
But that is beginning to change thanks to Vanagaite’s book.
“In one fell swoop, the book has brought a wave of truth telling about the Holocaust to the mainstream of society who follow the large media outlets,” said Dovid Katz, a Yiddish scholar in Vilnius who has campaigned for historical accuracy on the Lithuanians’ Holocaust-era role in the near annihilation of the Lithuanian Jewish community of 220,000. “It is of notable importance that a born and bred Lithuanian author tells the simple truth as it has never been told in a trade book not intended for scholars and specialists.”
Geoff Vasil, a spokesman for the Jewish Community of Lithuania, said “the turning of the tide within Lithuanian society” on this issue “now appears to be taking place like never before.”
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This quote is also from the news article, cited above:
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Vanagaite experienced this reluctance personally last year when she made an unwelcome discovery that served as her motivation to write the book in the first place.
In researching the life story of her grandfather — a well-known activist against communist Russia’s occupation of Lithuania until 1991 — she found documents that showed he helped German authorities compile a list of 10 Jewish communists during World War II. The German authorities then gave him some Jews to work on his farm as slave laborers before they were murdered.
“It was devastating,” Vanagaite recalls. “This was a man who was a hero to me and my family.”
In Lithuania, locals who fought with the Germans against the Red Army are widely revered as patriotic freedom fighters — including Juozas Ambrazevicius, the leader of the Nazi collaborationist government.
In a funeral organized by the central government, Ambrazevicius was reburied in 2012 with full national honors in the city of Kaunas. Four years earlier, Lithuanian prosecutors investigated for alleged war crimes four Jews who fought against the Nazis with the Russians. The investigation was dropped amid an international outcry.
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I find it hilariously ironic that Jeff provides a list of massacres to refute Schlageter’s claim that historic Jewish behavior (in the device of landowners, as moneylenders, and in other positions that allowed them to exploit and oppress the native gentile population) and the more recent association with oppression by “Russian” Bolsheviks is unconnected to the Baltic brutality towards Jews ahead of and during the German liberation, *while that very list contains multiple examples of (Jewish) Bolshevik massacres of Eastern Europeans!* umm, think the Letts and Lithuanians might have been tipped off as to who *really* committed the crime of Katyn? thanks, Jeff– it’s comedy gold.
Comment by Col. Klink — February 23, 2016 @ 7:17 am
“I find it hilariously ironic that Jeff provides a list of massacres to refute Schlageter’s claim that historic Jewish behavior (in the device of landowners, as moneylenders, and in other positions that allowed them to exploit and oppress the native gentile population) and the more recent association with oppression by “Russian” Bolsheviks is unconnected to the Baltic brutality towards Jews ahead of and during the German liberation,”
Schlageter wanted examples from history where these actions took place spontaneously.
I obliged him. He didn’t know.
“*while that very list contains multiple examples of (Jewish) Bolshevik massacres of Eastern Europeans!”
It contains examples of atrocities committed by Communists.
I’m still waiting on the whole, (Jewish) Bolshevick massacre thing.
Here’s the thing that you and Schlageter either don’t acknowledge or simply don’t know about:
During the Great Purge Stalin eliminated most of the minorities in the NKVD, including ethnic Poles, Ukrainians, Jews, etc. Stalin replaced them with ethnic Russians and Georgians.
” umm, think the Letts and Lithuanians might have been tipped off as to who *really* committed the crime of Katyn?” thanks, Jeff– it’s comedy gold.”
Beria, acting on orders from Stalin, executed the Polish officers at Katyn and other places. Neither Stalin nor Beria was a Jew, both grew up in the Georgian Orthodox religion. Both men’s mothers were deeply religious.
I hate to break this to you (again) sparky but no German was ever prosecuted for the Katyn Massacre at the IMT. The Soviets tried, they lost.
I will tell you what’s funny:
Your delusions. Pure comic gold.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — February 23, 2016 @ 7:38 am
Well, here it is, Jeff– straight from the horse’s mouth:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
That Beria was non-Russian and non-European should surprise no one. Jews have been aligning themselves with other groups to attack and destroy Europeans since the destruction of the first temple, and continued right through the Middle Ages, assisting the Moors in their conquest of Iberia, and being agents of the Ottomans as they finally overran Constantinople and infiltrated the Balkans. The Jew is the sworn enemy of all European nations, and we are well aware of your enmity- it’s all spelled out in the satanic Talmud
It is evident to everyone here that you are Hasbara.
Comment by Col. Klink — February 23, 2016 @ 8:53 am
Thanks for the article, Schlageter already quoted it.
“That Beria was non-Russian and non-European should surprise no one.”
Neither was Stalin. Did you miss that bit?
“Jews have been aligning themselves with other groups to attack and destroy Europeans since the destruction of the first temple, and continued right through the Middle Ages, assisting the Moors in their conquest of Iberia, and being agents of the Ottomans as they finally overran Constantinople and infiltrated the Balkans.”
Proof, please. Rhetoric is nice but not proof.
“The Jew is the sworn enemy of all European nations, and we are well aware of your enmity- it’s all spelled out in the satanic Talmud
It is evident to everyone here that you are Hasbara.”
Have I mentioned that I find your delusions hysterical?
I’ve been accused of the whole “Hasbara” thing before, you aren’t the first.
Truth be told, if the Hasbara exist I wouldn’t mind being one, it probably pays well and would free me up to study history like I want to.
But if you find it comforting to believe that I am a “Hasbara” you go right ahead. It means nothing to me.
Have you checked your room? You may want to look around to make sure there are no fanged, winged, hooved Jews hiding in the shadows trying to steal your shekels and impregnate innocent Aryan girls.
Yes. I am mocking you.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — February 23, 2016 @ 10:12 am
And there you have it folks. You’re simply disingenuous. No amount of evidence will ever suffice.
Engaging you is a waste of time.
Comment by Schlageter — February 23, 2016 @ 11:23 am
“And there you have it folks. You’re simply disingenuous. No amount of evidence will ever suffice.”
I say that about deniers all of the time.
I read what you have to say. I haven’t had time to really look over it or give you my reply.
“Engaging you is a waste of time.”
Well, it entertains ME.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — February 23, 2016 @ 11:52 am
One reason for killing Jews (or anyone else, anywhere) is to get their stuff. Land, houses, livestock, jewels, gold, even their daughters, sometimes. It helped in the internment of the Japanese in the US and Canada, too. Tories in the victorious American former colonies were eagerly and extensively dispossessed. And the list goes on.
Comment by Jett Rucker — February 22, 2016 @ 4:45 pm
“Amazing. No mention of the tens of thousands of Lithuanians murdered by Jewish NKVD killers or deportations to Siberia, all managed by Judeo-Bolsheviks which precipitated revenge on these kindly neighborly jews.”
So, are you saying that all of the NKVD were Jews?
Can you provide proof of that?
What Judeo-Bolshevicks ordered the deportations of Lithuanians? Do you have names or documents stating this?
“These people truly have tunnel vision, as if the spontaneous anti-jewish actions (which sometimes shocked the advancing wehrmacht) taken up by the native Baltics simply arose from nothing and had zero connection to past events and history… like the jewish lie that “antisemitism has nothing to do with the jews, it is a disease in the mind of gentile with no relation to real events”. ha. funny how they can never ever offer a similar example of this weird, unilateral phenomenon from history.”
Actually, Schlageter, I have 25.
Comment by Jeff K. — February 22, 2016 @ 2:27 pm
Jeff wrote: “So, are you saying that all of the NKVD were Jews? Can you provide proof of that?”
Paul blobel once said it under oath. 😉
(Just a joke.)
Comment by hermie — February 22, 2016 @ 7:59 pm
I wrote about the NKVD and the Jews on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/2014/01/28/us-holocaust-memorial-museum-has-a-new-exhibit-on-the-lithuanian-jews/
Comment by furtherglory — February 23, 2016 @ 7:20 am
Wow, Blobel was everywhere.
Maybe the Thule Society loaned him some Aryan magic.
😆
Comment by Jeff K. — February 23, 2016 @ 7:40 am
Amazing. No mention of the tens of thousands of Lithuanians murdered by Jewish NKVD killers or deportations to Siberia, all managed by Judeo-Bolsheviks which precipitated revenge on these kindly neighborly jews. These people truly have tunnel vision, as if the spontaneous anti-jewish actions (which sometimes shocked the advancing wehrmacht) taken up by the native Baltics simply arose from nothing and had zero connection to past events and history… like the jewish lie that “antisemitism has nothing to do with the jews, it is a disease in the mind of gentile with no relation to real events”. ha. funny how they can never ever offer a similar example of this weird, unilateral phenomenon from history.
Comment by Schlageter — February 22, 2016 @ 2:17 pm
“Amazing. No mention of the tens of thousands of Lithuanians murdered by Jewish NKVD killers or deportations to Siberia, all managed by Judeo-Bolsheviks which precipitated revenge on these kindly neighborly jews.”
So, are you saying that all of the NKVD were Jews?
Can you provide proof of that?
What Judeo-Bolshevicks ordered the deportations of Lithuanians? Do you have names or documents stating this?
“These people truly have tunnel vision, as if the spontaneous anti-jewish actions (which sometimes shocked the advancing wehrmacht) taken up by the native Baltics simply arose from nothing and had zero connection to past events and history… like the jewish lie that “antisemitism has nothing to do with the jews, it is a disease in the mind of gentile with no relation to real events”. ha. funny how they can never ever offer a similar example of this weird, unilateral phenomenon from history.”
Actually, Schlageter, I have 25.
Sorry, didn’t reply to you specifically.
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — February 22, 2016 @ 2:29 pm
Jeff, you are either wildly ignorant or supremely disingenuous, and missed the entire point. ” the jewish lie that “antisemitism has nothing to do with the jews, it is a disease in the mind of gentile with no relation to real events”. ha. funny how they can never ever offer a similar example of this weird, unilateral phenomenon from history.” nothing to do with Rwanda, etc. it is not a comparison of genocides, real or imagined, but of the absolute self-deception jews live under that their actions and attitudes don’t result in a backlash.
as far as Jews in the NKVD, read this from Germar Rudolf, complete with tables by ethnicity: http://vho.org/tr/2004/3/Rudolf325-327.html
and this from a jew publication: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html to wit: “In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. … Genrikh Yagoda, the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the “bloodthirsty dwarf.” Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book “Stalin: Court of the Red Star”, Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women. Stalin’s close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the “first Stalinist” and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao’s terror in China, did not move Kaganovich. Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We’ll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD’s special department and the organization’s chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist. ”
here’s another source with examples for Poland : http://dath125.livejournal.com/25934.html
this from Jew Eric Margolis: http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html#anchor2622229 “Six million other farmers across the USSR were starved or shot during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania; the genocide of three million Muslims in the USSR; massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans and Soviet industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war dead. Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders, and the frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Cheka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and Poland, led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. As a direct result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region’s innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.”
From Wiki:
NKVD massacres Lithuania
## Vilnius: after the German invasion, the NKVD murdered a large number of prisoners of the infamous Lukiškės Prison.[17]
## Rainiai near Telšiai: up to 79 political prisoners were killed in what is called the Rainiai massacre, on June 24 and the following day.
## Pravieniškės prison, near Kaunas: in June 1941, the NKVD murdered 260 political prisoners and all Lithuanian working personnel in the prison.
Many Lithuanians Blame Jews for Soviet Invasion
Vilnius, Lithuania – Reuters, Sept. 8, 1998.
“Many Lithuanians … blame Jews for the Soviet invasion, as the early Communist ranks were filled with a disproportionate number of Jews.”
Soon after the occupation started, Sovietization policies were implemented. On July 1, all political, cultural, and religious organizations were closed,[10] with only the Communist Party of Lithuania and its youth branch allowed to exist. All banks (including all accounts above 1,000 litas), real estate larger than 170 square metres (1,800 sq ft), private enterprises with more than 20 workers or more than 150,000 litas of gross receipts were nationalized.[11] This disruption in management and operations created a sharp drop in production. Russian soldiers and officials were eager to spend their appreciated rubles and caused massive shortages of goods.[12] To turn small peasants against large landowners, collectivization was not introduced in Lithuania. All land was nationalized, farms were reduced to 30 hectares (74 acres), and extra land (some 575,000 hectares (5,750 km2)) was distributed to small farmers.[13] In preparation for eventual collectivization, new taxes between 30% and 50% of farm production were enacted.[10] The Lithuanian litas was artificially depreciated 3–4 times its actual value and withdrawn by March 1941.[13] Before the elections to the People’s Parliament, Soviets arrested some 2,000 of most prominent political activists.[12] These arrests paralyzed any attempts to create anti-Soviet groups. An estimated 12,000 were imprisoned as “enemies of the people.”[12] When farmers were unable to meet exorbitant new taxes, some 1,100 of the larger farmers were put on trial.[14] On June 14–18, 1941, less than a week before the Nazi invasion, some 17,000 Lithuanians were deported to Siberia, where many perished due to inhumane living conditions (see June deportation).[15][16] Some of the many political prisoners were massacred by the retreating Red Army. These persecutions were key in soliciting support for the Nazis.
http://www.dailystormer.com/jews-and-communism-in-lithuania-1918-to-june-1941/ “…jews played a key role in attempting to snuff out out an emergent independent Lithuania as 1 of the 2 principle architects of the policy was jewish and 2 of the 8 members of the Politburo of Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic were jewish. If we discount the key background players; Joffe and Manuilsky, then that leaves us with a quarter of the Politburo being jewish, which in turn is clearly in massive disproportion to the minority jewish population in Lithuania at the time (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania between them only had 265,000 jews by 1940 for example). (1)…” “…By the end of 1939 there were 1,120 members of the Lithuanian Communist Party (LCP) who were not in prison: some 60 percent of these were Lithuanians (670 individuals), while 31 percent of them were jews (346 individuals). The remaining 9 percent were a motley collection of German, Polish and Russian communists. (2)
This is clearly a huge number with approximately a third of all non-imprisoned members of Lithuanian Communist Party in 1939 being jews. When we turn to the imprisoned members of the party then the figure becomes even more alarming with 287 individuals imprisoned of which 145 were jewish. (3) This translates into the alarming statistic that 51 percent of imprisoned members of the Lithuanian Communist Party were jewish…” “… in that summer of 1940 in the powerful Politburo of the Central Committee of the Lithuanian Communist Party out of 13 members some 4 were jews. (13) This translated into a percentage is some 31 percent of the highest governing institution in Soviet-occupied Lithuania and is a close parallel of the jewish domination of the Lithuanian Communist Party at the end of 1939…” “…the real government; i.e. its bureaucracy, of Lithuania during the Soviet occupation of mid-1940 to mid-1941 was significantly and disproportionately jewish. As well as that the Lithuanian Communist Party before the invasion was similarly governed; and also in this case staffed, by a large and very significantly disproportate number of jews….”
Comment by Schlageter — February 23, 2016 @ 6:27 am
Can’t forget the Rwandan Genocide. This also proves that you can kill 800,000 in a matter of weeks, even without gas chambers.
http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/genocide_in_rwanda.htm
Comment by Jeff K. — February 22, 2016 @ 2:39 pm
Jeff wrote: “Can’t forget the Rwandan Genocide. This also proves that you can kill 800,000 in a matter of weeks, even without gas chambers.”
Also proves that one cannot make so many dead bodies disappear from the face of the earth without a trace in a few months or years.
Comment by hermie — February 22, 2016 @ 8:03 pm
I wrote about the Rwandan Genocide on this blog post: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/rwanda/
Comment by furtherglory — February 23, 2016 @ 7:14 am
“Also proves that one cannot make so many dead bodies disappear from the face of the earth without a trace in a few months or years.”
Sure you can, you burn them or you bury them.
Don’t you think the highly advanced Germans could burn or bury corpses?
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — February 23, 2016 @ 7:46 am
Jeff wrote: “Sure you can, you burn them or you bury them.”
Burial only displaces the problem 6 feet below.
And burial works as a concealing activity only in collusion with rabbis later protecting the Nazis from the exposure of their crimes through the misuse of Halacha laws. That in an exterminationist perspective, of course. In a revisionist perspective, the activities of those rabbis avoid the exposure of the Holo-lie by preventing anybody from showing that the alleged Holocaust mass graves are empty. Crypto-Nazi rabbis protecting the Nazis’ reputation (exterminationist perspective) or Zionist rabbis protecting Israel’s founding myth (revisionist perspective), you can opt for the explanation that makes the most sense for you…
And cremation is not so easy. As surprising as it may sound, human corpses aren’t matchsticks…
Comment by hermie — February 23, 2016 @ 11:35 pm
Jeff wrote: “Sure you can, you burn them or you bury them.”
“Burial only displaces the problem 6 feet below.”
I actually agree with you on this one, large numbers of untreated corpses cause environmental issues.
“And burial works as a concealing activity only in collusion with rabbis later protecting the Nazis from the exposure of their crimes through the misuse of Halacha laws.”
I agree in principle. Naturally it’s ridiculous to say that rabbis are “protecting” anyone. However, it would be in everyone’s best interest if the rabbis stopped being such a pain in the ass and allowed real archeological research instead of getting in the way when a probe reveals the existence of a mass grave.
“That in an exterminationist perspective, of course.”
Of course.
“In a revisionist perspective, the activities of those rabbis avoid the exposure of the Holo-lie by preventing anybody from showing that the alleged Holocaust mass graves are empty.”
You are behind the times. Even “revisionists” acknowledge that there are mass graves at the OR sites. What they say is that there are far fewer bodies in those graves and that the people in them died from natural causes.
“Crypto-Nazi rabbis protecting the Nazis’ reputation (exterminationist perspective) or Zionist rabbis protecting Israel’s founding myth (revisionist perspective), you can opt for the explanation that makes the most sense for you…”
Blah, blah. Neither explanation makes sense but thanks for sharing.
The real reason those rabbis get in the way is their misplaced need to “protect” the graves. My opinion, of course.
“And cremation is not so easy. As surprising as it may sound, human corpses aren’t matchsticks…”
Again, are you saying that the intelligent, resourceful Germans couldn’t figure it out?
Jeff
Comment by Jeff K. — February 24, 2016 @ 5:16 am
Well, the Jews are strong and the Lithuanians are small in number and weak.
Comment by curri — February 22, 2016 @ 11:45 am